hi yall
i also have this BadBoy! but i notice'd that 1GB ram isnt enough for it
after startup i have 416MB free and after an 1hr usage got 338MB free.
damn! where all the Ram goes??
by the way got stock'd Sprint 2.3.4 not UNLOCKED BL or root.
another Q to you...have yall notice'd that the phone become sluggish after the MR-5 OTA update?
GUARDIANBD said:
hi yall
i also have this BadBoy! but i notice'd that 1GB ram isnt enough for it
after startup i have 416MB free and after an 1hr usage got 338MB free.
damn! where all the Ram goes??
by the way got stock'd Sprint 2.3.4 not UNLOCKED BL or root.
another Q to you...have yall notice'd that the phone become sluggish after the MR-5 OTA update?
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ram is meant to be used. the fact that your phone is using it is a good thing.
1gb should be plenty. use a task killer app to stop all the backgrounded apps your aren't using, that should free up some memory.
That's a huge amont of free ram. My epic used to run with 90 or less.
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what about your device? how much ram do you have after reboot?
To put this in perspective the Evo 4g ships with 512 Mb of ram.
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what about your device? how much ram do you have after reboot?
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About same as you. Try installing go launcher on evo 3d and photon which amazed. EVO 3d ships with 1gb as well but usually only has 120mb free...
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thats strange i have here Galaxy s i9000t stock rom and after bootup
it have 210mb free according to toolbox optimize.
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It's been really weird, but in the pull down "quick settings" the free memory will show something like
Total memory: 803mb
Used: 695 Free: 108
Which seems very low.
But if I look at running processes in settings/applications, I get 284 used, 432 available.
So, the questions are:
1. Are these two "memory" values refering to the same thing? They do not add up to the same total.
2. Which one really indicates system resources - I get Sense restarts whenever the quick settings value goes below about 125 - and I don't even know why this should be happening.
3. isn't this phone supposed to have 1gb of ram?
One thing i'm sure about...it is not the app space remaining.
Anyone have any insight?
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I should point out that tapping on the memory in quick settings takes you to the running process screen.
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i have the same question..
in notifications, it says:
total: 803
Used: 538
free: 265
is this normal? or what is it that is using all that memory?
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I should point out that tapping on the memory in quick settings takes you to the running process screen.
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No... It takes you to the new built in "task manager" app, which is very different for some reason.
I wanna know this as well.... Im kinda paranoid about RAM and thought that 1gb was more than enough, but the htc task manager really dissapoints me when i see what i have free (160-180 average) but i have over 400 free in the stock android process manager.
Which one is more accurate? And why are they so different?
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I wanna know this as well.... Im kinda paranoid about RAM and thought that 1gb was more than enough, but the htc task manager really dissapoints me when i see what i have free (160-180 average) but i have over 400 free in the stock android process manager.
Which one is more accurate? And why are they so different?
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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Not sure why these are so inconsistent, but I'm much more leaning towards the built-in Android version through the setting menu.
chubaan said:
i have the same question..
in notifications, it says:
total: 803
Used: 538
free: 265
is this normal? or what is it that is using all that memory?
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HTC sense UI , really tho that's why the Samsung galaxy s 2 kick ass on benchmarks , because sense takes a lot RAM , you didn't think this nice looking animations weren't doing anything to your device right ? Is been like that since the EVO days will need to get used to it now
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Ahaa.. that makes sense, that sense is using it of course.. you have a point ..
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HTC sense UI , really tho that's why the Samsung galaxy s 2 kick add on benchmarks , because sense takes a lot RAM , you didn't think this nice looking animations weren't doing anything to your device right ? Is been like that since the EVO days will need to get used to it now
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So I noticed that the lte shows less ram then the 3D anyone know why this is? Thought lte had more
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If it is like in the computer world I would guess more of it is going to the GPU or other components in the phone.
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So I noticed that the lte shows less ram then the 3D anyone know why this is? Thought lte had more
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Though it says that there is so much of the RAM being "used" in reality only a portion is actually being used. There are many programs that are dormit in memory waiting for you to execute them, by remaining dormit in memory they can run much faster, its in a way caching.
Now if you want to control that, download AutoKiller Memory from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5ycy5hdXRva2lsbGVyIl0.) and you can adjust the way the Kernel manages the dormit apps and free physical memory. Please read the help and the Dev's website for more understanding of the tool and the way Android manages the RAM.
Yeah, it's probably allotted for something else.
I noticed this with the Sense 4 ROMS for the 3D. All of a sudden had like 200mb total of missing RAM by flashing the ROM.
I just upgraded to EVO LTE and is very nice its fast quick beautiful screen very smooth but can't figure out what's is using my ram I'm using 400 and have mabe 270 left to used but when I combine those it doesnt equal 1gb of ram
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htc sense use ram also i don't know how much but it's alot. Don't worry about the ram cause the system will end whatever you have open and not using to make more ram.
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Alright thanks
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I think the gpu probably uses some too which might be why it didn't add up to 1024mb
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I think the gpu probably uses some too which might be why it didn't add up to 1024mb
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Possibly, but when I add my used and unused ram together I only come up with
660 which is way short or 1gb ram
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Possibly, but when I add my used and unused ram together I only come up with
660 which is way short or 1gb ram
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I think I remember the EVO 3d with more ram. Like 720 something.
Well, there are plenty of hidden system settings. The number that you see in Task Manager or Settings is how much RAM that can be used for anything. The ram you do not see available is being used by things that are UNABLE to be removed from RAM because they are essential to the system running. That is the reason why we see nothing close to 1GB.same thing goes for computers, you can either see Installed Memory or you can see Usable Memory. Installed Memory on LTevo would be 1GB and Usable Memory on Stock would be around 670MB(IIRC) for me.
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I see now it makes more sense now
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I noticed this also, coming from the EVO 3d (also with 1gb of ram) vs the 4gLTE. IIRC the 3d shows 804mb total vs 680mb. I figured it had to do with the 3d running gingerbread/sense 3.5 vs the 4gLTE running ICS/sense 4.0. My friend who has a galaxy nexus also with 1gb of ram, shows around the same amount of ram in the task manager.. either way I am absolutely amazed with this phone, not one issue or hiccup so far..
Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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damn dude just use the search button!!! there are a lot of same posts!
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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nodstuff said:
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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This..
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jojo_angelov said:
Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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Have you tried de-bloating your phone? It would also be good to disable application that auto-starts.
Hey. You don't have to worry about the available RAM being low. Android manages RAM usage differently than most other Operating Systems like OSX and Windows. Essentially, having RAM used up in Android is good because it caches apps in the background which allows you to have fluid multitasking.
If you are worried about performance then the best thing to do would be to install an app called Watchdog. This app will monitor the CPU usage of apps. These truly affect the performance of the phone. In general though don't worry about the RAM. And whatever you do, don't use a Task Killer for RAM purposes. This can be damaging because it can corrupt files and processes and inevitably cause more harm than good.
Hope that helps
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Yep, 3rd party memory management sw use more power than they save so uninstall it at your earliest convenience please As you know ICS handles memory beautifuly. IT clears memory as needed so don't waste your time on memory-peeping and enjoy your phone
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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You cannot stop apps from autostarting without root.
You do not need root to remove bloatware.
Go to settings and apps, and then click on what you don't want and disable it.
how about this, this is really worst, i don,t have much bloatware running, still ram is very low
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there are threads with options for this.
ROOTED anyway.
edit your build prop, change the delvik heap size to 128....freed up ram for me, though i honestly dont need it. i only have around 100mgb of free ram and my phone still multie tasks like a champ.
but there are options.
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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This is assuming that what the cpu is processing is not in RAM, which is the point of it anyway
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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That is false. The US versions have 2GB of RAM because of their processor using more RAM. Jellybean runs just fine on the Galaxy nexus with 1GB of RAM and only a dual core processor.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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Exactly!
JB will be absolutely fine on the S3.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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This.:good:
Hi folks,
just bought me a S3 yesterday and i realized there is just 779 MB ram. Where are the other 200 MB ?
What does Samsung say about that?
Is there a kernel or rom out there which allows to have more ram available?
Thanks
799mb available to the user (you) and the other 201mb is taken up by system processes.
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Those megabytes are in system and graphics usage. But if you want to slightly increase your RAM, you'll have to try some other kernels than stock, or other roms...
Thanks for the answers, now I understand.
I was a little sceptical because on my sister's HTC One X there is almost a gigabyte available to the user.
Some ammount of the total 1G RAM is also "given" to the GPU, that's why you don't see 1024 MB as max. free.
It's there, just reserved to the GPU.
infoflo said:
Hi folks,
just bought me a S3 yesterday and i realized there is just 779 MB ram. Where are the other 200 MB ?
What does Samsung say about that?
Is there a kernel or rom out there which allows to have more ram available?
Thanks
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The 200MB is being used by Android OS (Ice-Cream Sandwich/Jelly Bean) itself
Every android phone has this. Even similar ones like HTC One-X.
I was bit disapointed to that fact aswell, because Galaxy S2 had more free ram than GS3. Why not just have 2GB ram on the device.
Well, till Galaxy S4 maybe then.
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2gb ram will be nice. But wth, GS3 with 1gb ram still rock. Enjoy your phone.
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you can free up some ram occasionally in task manager if you are worried about lag due to low free ram which shouldn't be the case. you can also reboot your phone once daily which is what I always do
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