Related
I'm a fairly new Galaxy Tab 10.1 user (had it for a few weeks, from the woot deal). I'm not new to android, however. I'm currently running the Task 7 ROM, but this issue seems to be present in all ROMs I've tried so far (including stock). Transition screens (when it zooms to launch an app), panning between home screens, scrolling in emails, etc. are all jerky.
I've seen threads about jerky video playback (movies), but I haven't seen much about this. I have to figure this either isn't happening to anyone else, or it's happening to everyone and people have just accepted it by now. Is there a fix for this? A kernel, or ROM, perhaps? Coming from an iPad, the jerkiness is very apparent, and it is really bothering me.
Thanks in advance...
dodgeboy said:
I'm a fairly new Galaxy Tab 10.1 user (had it for a few weeks, from the woot deal). I'm not new to android, however. I'm currently running the Task 7 ROM, but this issue seems to be present in all ROMs I've tried so far (including stock). Transition screens (when it zooms to launch an app), panning between home screens, scrolling in emails, etc. are all jerky.
I've seen threads about jerky video playback (movies), but I haven't seen much about this. I have to figure this either isn't happening to anyone else, or it's happening to everyone and people have just accepted it by now. Is there a fix for this? A kernel, or ROM, perhaps? Coming from an iPad, the jerkiness is very apparent, and it is really bothering me.
Thanks in advance...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I recommend getting a home screen replacement, like adw ex. That will get you silky smooth homescreen transitions. As far as any other lag, it can probably be fixed by overclocking. Tasks newest rom includes pershoots OC kernel, but make sure you do your homework before delving into overclocking.
At the moment my tab is running at 1.4 GHz and I haven't seen any lag, although you are correct that the device can be pretty jerky without using some of the great mods available here.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
sendan said:
I recommend getting a home screen replacement, like adw ex. That will get you silky smooth homescreen transitions. As far as any other lag, it can probably be fixed by overclocking. Tasks newest rom includes pershoots OC kernel, but make sure you do your homework before delving into overclocking.
At the moment my tab is running at 1.4 GHz and I haven't seen any lag, although you are correct that the device can be pretty jerky without using some of the great mods available here.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am running ADW EX. It dramatically improved the jerkiness, but it's still there. I mainly notice it when launching apps. The swiping between homescreens is not as noticeable.
I was hoping to not have to OC to fix the issue. In my experience (with phones) it usually leads to some other kind of instability...
Any other ideas? Could it be that the clock speed is dropping too low when nothing on the screen is moving, and doesn't spool back up fast enough?
dodgeboy said:
I am running ADW EX. It dramatically improved the jerkiness, but it's still there. I mainly notice it when launching apps. The swiping between homescreens is not as noticeable.
I was hoping to not have to OC to fix the issue. In my experience (with phones) it usually leads to some other kind of instability...
Any other ideas? Could it be that the clock speed is dropping too low when nothing on the screen is moving, and doesn't spool back up fast enough?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah you could play around with different governors, although pershoot's kernels generally have optimal default settings.
As for your choice to not overclock, I can understand why you don't want to, (as I have a fascinate and it's all to easy to cause instability) however pershoot did a ridiculously good job. Paired with setcpu you really only have to move the slider to your desired clock and your good to go, I've never actually had a random reboot or sleep of death with this tablet at 1.4 GHz. If you only did a slight overclock I really don't think you will regret it...
Edit: Also keep in mind that this tablet allows widgets on the homescreen, and by default it uses non uniform icons. For this reason you should not be comparing it to an iPad. At the moment I'm running with the suave hd icon pack (uniform icons) with minimal widgets and it's just as smooth as an iPad. (but also more useful).
Also a small tip, turn off wallpaper scrolling in ADW, it makes it seem so much more laggy than it really is.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
It will never be the same as an iOS device. Post 64 of the thread about ICS removing lag is helpful in shedding light on why. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20458845&postcount=64
Either overclock and live with a bit of it or get a plain uncustomizable iPad (talking homescreens).
That being said with pershoots kernel and supercharger/kernelizer/zipalign scripts the performance is noticably improved over stock and more than acceptable for many of us.
muzzy996 said:
It will never be the same as an iOS device. Post 64 of the thread about ICS removing lag is helpful in shedding light on why. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20458845&postcount=64
Either overclock and live with a bit of it or get a plain uncustomizable iPad (talking homescreens).
That being said with pershoots kernel and supercharger/kernelizer/zipalign scripts the performance is noticably improved over stock and more than acceptable for many of us.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 this. If smooth homescreen performance is your #1 priority in a tablet, get an ipad. It's lower resolution and doesn't have widgets so it's sort of a no-brainer why homescreen performance is generally better.
Thanks for your input, everyone. It turns out that my issue is almost nonexistent when the screen is oriented in landscape mode. All transitions are smoother, scrolling is smoother, etc. Seems silly, but that's the case. Unfortunately, I use the tablet primarily in portrait mode, for magazine reading and puzzle games.
Dave
It's been said that this is a Honeycomb issue (portrait vs landscape scrolling lag) and that ICS should improve upon this. Many such as myself use our tablets primarily in landscape mode so we tend to overlook the issue but those who need to use the device in portrait do have to suffer with it for now.
I recently downloaded and installed the Kanged ICS CM9 4.0.3 onto my old Droid 3 and I must say I was extremely pleased. I didn't bother running any benchmarks to compare, as I feel they really don't gauge the devices performance anyways. The hardware specs for the Droid 3 if anyone is not familiar Ti Omap 4430 @ 1ghz power vr sgx 540 512 MB of RAM. I am positive thanks to the refinements along w/ the hardware acceleration all the transitions/scrolling were buttery smooth. I will make a list of the general applications that I've noticed transitional/UI lag in.
Notifications: Sadly this still makes scrolling/transitions lag.
I used the 2 major launchers Go launcher Ex and ADW launcher Ex. The stock launcher was alright, as well as nova but I wasn't too fond of them.
Go launcher: About the same performance as you would have on a GB device. Go launcher is generally smooth, but a few stutters here and there in the app drawer. I don't think it has been designed yet to support HW acceleration.
ADW Launcher EX: Here I was blown away... Easily seemed like 60 + fps at all times for screen switching app drawer with no modifications. I did 4x4, 5x5, 6x6 and it still maintained the same quality of scrolling in the app drawer. All the drawer types even the vertical 4D were silky smooth, and showed no instances of performance degradation. Scrolling wallpapers w/ widgets on the screens no stuttering/lag BUT a slight fps degradation, I'd say it drops to mid 40's to low 50s. BUT if you use the static wallpaper it maintains the 60 fps performance. I know ADW does support HW acceleration, and I'm sure the scrolling wallpaper performance will improve.
Browser: The stock browser does show improvements in the pinch to zoom as well as scrolling on flash intensive sites (i loaded up desktop youtube) while not quite as fluid as iOS it has drastically improved. I'd say it has improved to acceptable levels! I think we can expect to see those same gains even on the modified HTC browser. I went to the martisphography website which was discussed in this forum? Or was it another? It was stated it is a good test to see how smooth scrolling will be with graphically intensive websites since there are tons of high res photos. That or the poster was just trying to promote that website LOL. Pinch to zoom was great on a non flash website. Pinch to zoom exhibited the same performance regardless if i was zooming in on text or pictures. Although when flinging through the pictures it did slow it down and there were stutters. Same thing does occur on the stock GB browser on the Rezound. Only chipset I know that effectively navigated through that site on the stock browser (even on GB) is the exynos. Although on Opera browser the D3 and the Rezound had no issues flinging through the pictures without any lag/stuttering. But it was a bit smoother on the D3 with ICS, perfect I even dare say! Guess both stock HTC and Google browser still have those small kinks they need to work out.
Market: The starting page of the market I noticed does stutter a bit when you scroll through it on most GB devices. But on the ICS D3 that was completely nullified.
Touch Input: Has also greatly improved on ICS.
I really don't know if this post is informative or not. Just thought I would throw something quick together to help ease some peoples minds. I know some are tethering between the Rezound and the Nexus. I can easily say now that ICS is the ONLY advantage that the Nexus has. If the D3 a device with has lesser hardware specs can run the OS, our apps and anything we do with our devices the way it was meant to be... Just imagine how it will be on the Rezound, even a sense based one will drastically improve our user experiences. If there are apps you want me to run or websites, heck anything to see if it runs better on ICS. Just drop a request in this thread if it will help put your mind to ease. Thanks for reading.
My only thought is that this is very promising, especially since it is not official.
That's good to hear. Can't wait for ics on the rezound!
Is it only me noticing that scroll is laggy in ICS roms, both sammy leaks and cm9, compared to stock GB?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
Yes, that's because source code hasn't been released in the case of cm9, and because the Sammy rom's are leaks and are still a work in progress. They will become much smoother when officially released and source code is available.
Sent from my GT-I9100T
where are you seeing this lag? I'm on XXLP6 and the scrolling is perfect; better than GB in my opinion.
Have you tried forcing 2d GPU acceleration?
Browser, settings menus. Forcing 2d acceleration didn't change anything.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
I haven't experienced said scroll lag, but then again I always do a full wipe before updating.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
Lag??
I'm on the latest CM9 and running real smooth for me!!
What the OP is referring to here is not LAG, it is slow inertia while scrolling. This is the characteristic of ICS and is not something observed only on Galaxy S2 (people have been complaining about it on GNex as well). It is totally different from how it was in GB where just a slight flick would result in fast scrolling. In ICS, you have to flick more times to reach the bottom of the list. However, I also like the GB implementation better and have been looking for a hack/mod which would fix it, but AFAIK there is none so far!
You might be using XXKP8 or older version of Sammy, Those builds have lags. Instead go for [IML74K] ROMs they have better scrolling.
I'm on an S1 (i9000), so perhaps not directly comparable, but I have this exact issue with THS CM9 alpha build 16 ICS ROM, which is marked IML74K (whatever that means?).
Scrolling itself is perfectly smooth, but scroll "flicking" feels like it has considerably more friction that on GB.
I'm sure it's down to personal taste, but I wish it were configurable. I much preferred the GB behaviour.
Hi guys,
I recently purchased the EVO View 4G, mainly for the awesome pen input now that Honeycomb is working (and it really is awesome).
On my EVO 3D I use Go launcher Ex which works a charm and is super fast. However, I found that on my View it was painfully slow, especially things like browsing. With a 1.5 ghz processor I was wonder how the heck it could lag so badly loading web pages.
So, for grins I loaded up LauncherPro. All I can say is WOW, this thing FLIES now. Everything feels faster and lighter. Web pages load twice as fast with no hang.
So, if you have a View, are running Honeycomb and it seems slow, give LauncherPro Plus a whirl and see if you don't notice an instant difference.
Hey Mitch!!
It’s great to see you here.
I always enjoyed your input at MiksRoms.
I switch between Sense and GO Launcher-EX because I love the pen, but love the flexibility of Go Launcher. I see little or no difference in speed, they are both snappy as can be. Don't know what your launcher would have to do with your browser speed? Unless you are letting the launcher lock itself in memory and eat all the free space.
DigitalMD said:
I switch between Sense and GO Launcher-EX because I love the pen, but love the flexibility of Go Launcher. I see little or no difference in speed, they are both snappy as can be. Don't know what your launcher would have to do with your browser speed? Unless you are letting the launcher lock itself in memory and eat all the free space.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah seemed weird to me as well. However, Launchers play differently with different OS versions. Could be that Go Launcher manages resources differently or something. Nevertheless, the performance improvement is marked.
Kudzus said:
Hey Mitch!!
It’s great to see you here.
I always enjoyed your input at MiksRoms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey man, good to see you too. Haven't been around much lately. Too much real life going on
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
In chrome it's terrible. I'm not sure if it's due to the ads, since I have previously used Adaway. Scrolling is choppy with lots of frame drops. Web pages will stop loading at 90% and not let me interact with links. Often get a blank screen for 15secs while a page loads. I haven't had a browsing experience this bad since my Optimus V on sprint 3g. Looks like I'll be eating a $35 restock fee. I would've liked to try the Samsung browser but verizon has removed it.
Edit: a reboot resolved the loading issues for now, but scrolling is still choppy. Extremely choppy if you scroll while ads are still loading.
squallz506 said:
In chrome it's terrible. I'm not sure if it's due to the ads, since I have previously used Adaway. Scrolling is choppy with lots of frame drops. Web pages will stop loading at 90% and not let me interact with links. Often get a blank screen for 15secs while a page loads. I haven't had a browsing experience this bad since my Optimus V on sprint 3g. Looks like I'll be eating a $35 restock fee. I would've liked to try the Samsung browser but verizon has removed it.
Edit: a reboot resolved the loading issues for now, but scrolling is still choppy. Extremely choppy if you scroll while ads are still loading.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same, I'm on T-mobile and tried the stock browser as well with the same result.
gsxrfl1k6 said:
Same, I'm on T-mobile and tried the stock browser as well with the same result.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ugh, I was hoping sideloading the Samsung browser would've resolved the issue. I guess not.
I've always used chrome beta on my devices but this time, I gave the stock browser a shot. It's amazing and absolutely smooth. The browser is so well optimized for this phone that it blows chrome out of the water.
Lightning+ browser is smooth as butter and consumes minimal battery with amoled display mode and inverted grayscale rendering.
When it works it feels smooth and fast. There is an issue with scrolling, the screen is over sensitive and you do face a lot of accidental key presses. This has been reported by a fair number of people.
squallz506 said:
Ugh, I was hoping sideloading the Samsung browser would've resolved the issue. I guess not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The stock browser actually very smooth. About same as my iPhone 6s Plus. Here is my test https://youtu.be/hq4exPxLSrY
Chrome's latest update to V.49 fixed the scrolling lag for me entirely.
The default browser is remarkably smooth, Chrome on the other hand is kind of hit or miss. It's smooth for pages you frequent often though.
Edit: just loaded up Firefox with uBlock and it blows both stock and chrome out of the water. Definitely the most smooth experience. It's really only lacking a nice material theme/status bar.
stock browser has an ad block that you can download through the samsung store. That's what I'm using for my daily browsing and using chrome only for sites I need to get to that are bookmarked, like bills and school sites that are not ad infested.
Butter smooth.
I really do not recommend Chrome unless you use a Nexus device, stock browsers almost always perform better performance and efficiency wise. I just use stock, use it lacks some features and it doesn't even sync my bookmarks but it's not like I browse my daily readings on the phone, so it doesn't matter for me. When I browse the links almost always come from somewhere else so I don't need my favorites.
scrolling smoothness on Skype is terrible. Even after loading Skype so that all the contacts are loaded, scroling through my chats is very laggy. However, the app itself is not.
Astraphic said:
scrolling smoothness on Skype is terrible. Even after loading Skype so that all the contacts are loaded, scroling through my chats is very laggy. However, the app itself is not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it is not terrible. I can say it is fu... smooth!!!
I have no issues with scrolling. But my wife won't trade phones with me. So I'm stuck with the S6.
Stock browser is great, no issues there. Some apps still exhibit some slightly imperfect scrolling behaviour (e.g. Facebook is not perfect, but much better than my Note 5 ever was). With GPU profiling on, it's easy to see that there are still frame drops (on the SD820 version at least).
After reading this thread i decided to give the stock brower another chance. Soon as i got my phone 2 wks i switched to chrome. Been using chrome for a while. I must say its faster at times. I did notice the lag on chrome just now. So im going to try the stock one again.
I'm random use the phone. Not only scrolling I've no issue about any smoothness. All are OK! It's very well for use.
I've got any scrolling issue. IMO it's the best till now for smooth