Hi I hava gtablet with android system 2.2 Just want to know if it posible to upgrade to os system android 3.2, and how can it be done?
Android 3.2 is here!
Android 3.2 is a minor feature update that includes new
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Sry for the question but i new in all this of android system.
snipekill said:
Hi I hava gtablet with android system 2.2 Just want to know if it posible to upgrade to os system android 3.2, and how can it be done?
Sry for the question but i new in all this of android system.
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simple answer, NO
Complex Answer,
Viewsonic, the company that has their name plastered on the back of our tablets, has let us know that they are not going to be upgrading them to any Android OS higher than 2.2. They claim that it's because Nvidia (the company that created the Tegra 2 platform has said they will not provide hardre drivers for any android os higher than 2.2 on the harmony (ours) platform, and will only to it for the Ventana (Xoom, Iconia, Transformer).
However, there are some talented 3rd party developers here, and at the tabletroms forums that are working as hard as they can to attempt to get honeycomb to run on the harmony devices (Gtablet Vega, Adam). They have been able to port android 3.0 to them, but there are parts missing, namely hardware acceleration and the camera. Unless these developers start implementing portions of android 3.2 (which I believe some are) then you can't get it. There will never be an official android 3.2 update for our devices. What we'll probably end up with is an android 3.0 with aspects of 3.1 and 3.2, since htey'll be "updated" manually, but they will still lack drivers for hardware acceleration.
Thx i will try to flash it to G HARMONY GINGERBREAD v2.6(BL1.1)
i hope i do it right.
snipekill said:
Thx i will try to flash it to G HARMONY GINGERBREAD v2.6(BL1.1)
i hope i do it right.
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make sure you're on the 1.1 bootloader first
Or else you'll be right back here wondering why you're stuck
TJEvans said:
make sure you're on the 1.1 bootloader first
Or else you'll be right back here wondering why you're stuck
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thx for the remark , i should type the 1.2BL
TJEvans said:
simple answer, NO
Complex Answer,
Viewsonic, the company that has their name plastered on the back of our tablets, has let us know that they are not going to be upgrading them to any Android OS higher than 2.2. They claim that it's because Nvidia (the company that created the Tegra 2 platform has said they will not provide hardre drivers for any android os higher than 2.2 on the harmony (ours) platform, and will only to it for the Ventana (Xoom, Iconia, Transformer).
However, there are some talented 3rd party developers here, and at the tabletroms forums that are working as hard as they can to attempt to get honeycomb to run on the harmony devices (Gtablet Vega, Adam). They have been able to port android 3.0 to them, but there are parts missing, namely hardware acceleration and the camera. Unless these developers start implementing portions of android 3.2 (which I believe some are) then you can't get it. There will never be an official android 3.2 update for our devices. What we'll probably end up with is an android 3.0 with aspects of 3.1 and 3.2, since htey'll be "updated" manually, but they will still lack drivers for hardware acceleration.
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I'm sorry for the noob question but what is so different with both platform? Also why is Nvidia not supporting Harmony? Also is that why I could not find the darn APX drivers on Nvidia website? Also what will happen when Ice Cream Sandwich will come out since it will be open source?
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Done working fine.
what is so different with both platform?
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I can honestly say that I have no idea...besides the RAM, we're at 512mb, they are at 1gb
why is Nvidia not supporting Harmony?
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This is a point of contention for some, including myself. Back in April, when we first started complaining to Viewsonic, they told us that Nvidia would not support any OS higher than 2.2 for the Harmony chipset. We then complained to Nvidia, who stated, publicly that they would support their hardware on any OS at the request of the hardware partner (Viewsonic in this case) The argument then died down, until just recently.
We then started bothering Viewsonic again to "request" the drivers for GB and HC, since they are the hardware partner, and Nvidia said they would support it. A few weeks ago, Viewsonic stated that they had communnicated with Nividia and were told that Nividia would not support an OS higher than 2.2 on the Harmony chipset (sound familiar?)
I, personally, doubt that Viewsonic ever made such request. Others state that Nvidia did a corporate double speak, saying that they would support a higher OS, but never saying that they would provide drivers for such an OS. The fact is, we don't have a higher OS, so there's nothing really, for them to support...see what I'm saying?
In any case, Viewsonic makes us mad at Nvidia and Nvidia makes us mad at Viewsonic...nothing ever gets resolved, and we're still pissed.
I could not find the darn APX drivers on Nvidia website?
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Don't know, but you can find them on the Gtablet for Dummies site under the NVFlash section...
Also what will happen when Ice Cream Sandwich will come out since it will be open source?
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Magic 8 ball says "answer is unclear"
honestly, your guess is as good as mine.
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I can honestly say that I have no idea...besides the RAM, we're at 512mb, they are at 1gb
This is a point of contention for some, including myself. Back in April, when we first started complaining to Viewsonic, they told us that Nvidia would not support any OS higher than 2.2 for the Harmony chipset. We then complained to Nvidia, who stated, publicly that they would support their hardware on any OS at the request of the hardware partner (Viewsonic in this case) The argument then died down, until just recently.
We then started bothering Viewsonic again to "request" the drivers for GB and HC, since they are the hardware partner, and Nvidia said they would support it. A few weeks ago, Viewsonic stated that they had communnicated with Nividia and were told that Nividia would not support an OS higher than 2.2 on the Harmony chipset (sound familiar?)
I, personally, doubt that Viewsonic ever made such request. Others state that Nvidia did a corporate double speak, saying that they would support a higher OS, but never saying that they would provide drivers for such an OS. The fact is, we don't have a higher OS, so there's nothing really, for them to support...see what I'm saying?
In any case, Viewsonic makes us mad at Nvidia and Nvidia makes us mad at Viewsonic...nothing ever gets resolved, and we're still pissed.
Don't know, but you can find them on the Gtablet for Dummies site under the NVFlash section...
Magic 8 ball says "answer is unclear"
honestly, your guess is as good as mine.
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Ah thanks for clearing that up but the difference between Harmony and Ventana can't just be RAM since the Acer Iconia A100 only has 512MB of RAM and it runs Android 3.2. Oh well lets just hope Nvidia releases drivers for Ice-Cream Sandwich. I'm also pissed that Viewsonic is releasing two Honeycomb tablets.
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I'm also pissed that Viewsonic is releasing two Honeycomb tablets.
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Don't be pissed. Just don't buy them. Better yet, don't buy anything Viewsonic.
Fuzzy John said:
Don't be pissed. Just don't buy them. Better yet, don't buy anything Viewsonic.
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Yeah anyways the last monitor I had from Viewsonic died a few mounts back.
Doomguy123 said:
Yeah anyways the last monitor I had from Viewsonic died a few mounts back.
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I would love 3.2 just for reasizeable Widgets. EVen though viewsonic abandoned this tablet I don't care. I will never buy anything viewsonic again as i would be pissed if i spent $300 on a tablet that has been forgotten about by its makers. But $170 for a used dual core honeycomb tablet is pretty damn hard to beat(even if it is 3.0 and a little buggy). So far i am loving this tablet. Now only if electroniccrap would re-stock the bluto.
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I would love 3.2 just for reasizeable Widgets.
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Launcherpro Plus is your friend...10x10 icons on screen and resizable widgets all day long...
I installed gtabcomb beta 3.3 located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126220
For the most part it ran fine. The camera didn't work and I experienced the sleep of death.
Currently I am running a cm7.1 rc1 located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144847
Again for the most part everything runs fine. A few minor things changed like the location of the sdcard. Not sure why but I don't have any audio so I can't play any music. No FC anywhere and the new market runs well.
dobah said:
I installed gtabcomb beta 3.3 located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126220
For the most part it ran fine. The camera didn't work and I experienced the sleep of death.
Currently I am running a cm7.1 rc1 located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144847
Again for the most part everything runs fine. A few minor things changed like the location of the sdcard. Not sure why but I don't have any audio so I can't play any music. No FC anywhere and the new market runs well.
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The version of a ROM is not indicitive of the version of the OS that it's based on. I'm pretty sure that ALL HC roms available for the Gtablet are based on a 3.0 version of HC, they may have different aspects of 3.1 and 3.2 built in, but they are mostly 3.0.
The camera foes not work on ANY HC rom for the Gtablet, neither does hardware acceleration (trust me, HA does NOT work on ANY HC rom)
Android 3.2 ported to Vega, not G-Tablet
I have read that there is already a version of HC 3.2 ported to a similar device, with the VegaComb version
Would some of the developers that havef ported the HC 3.0.1 be able to adapt the VegaComb 3.2 to any of their distributions?
I am currently using Flashback 8.0, and have tried vegan 7.0RC1, gtabcomb 3.3, flashback 7.2, illuminate 3.1 and of course the strange version taht the viewsonic g-tablet came with, and it has been a nice walk through the several android flavors, but the hardware acceleration is really a important part of the device. From what I saw on the vegacomb video on youtube, the acceleration to a similar device really proves to make a much better experience, and not to say that the camera works, and flash plays withough issues on the browser.
Let me know if there is a v ersion of 3.2 to test, I would gladly test it out .
dnanton said:
I have read that there is already a version of HC 3.2 ported to a similar device, with the VegaComb version
Would some of the developers that havef ported the HC 3.0.1 be able to adapt the VegaComb 3.2 to any of their distributions?
I am currently using Flashback 8.0, and have tried vegan 7.0RC1, gtabcomb 3.3, flashback 7.2, illuminate 3.1 and of course the strange version taht the viewsonic g-tablet came with, and it has been a nice walk through the several android flavors, but the hardware acceleration is really a important part of the device. From what I saw on the vegacomb video on youtube, the acceleration to a similar device really proves to make a much better experience, and not to say that the camera works, and flash plays withough issues on the browser.
Let me know if there is a v ersion of 3.2 to test, I would gladly test it out .
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Your talking about the VegaComb 3.2 with the hardware acceleration? If so as far as I know no one is porting it I asked the VegaComb team and none of them have a Gtablet. Id like to see someone like Robeet port it over but doesn't look like that's gonna happen.
Started into the world of Android on a Gtab myself by getting on (full $400 price) at Sears many moons ago. Loved it. Messed it up. Figured out how to restore it (along with XDA gurus!) and generally enjoyed the whole process. Found VEGAN to be my ROM of choice and went happily on my way.
Then the tablet explosion began.
Despite entreaties by many it would appear (at least to me) some time ago the Gtab is EOL. End Of Life merely means it, along with many other tabs are now declared abandoned by their respective manufacturers who are moving on to newer offerings. One sees this with all things tech including phones, desktops, OS, etc.
I really don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon, but if it weren't for talented devs like Robeet, et. al., we'd not see massaged ROMs we do even now. Got a feeling the Gtab is like the NookColor and other first gen tabs. Froyo, GB and perhaps a handful of modded ROMs based on the previous is going to be it. Which ain't bad but not the same.
It is what it is.
skeeterpro said:
Started into the world of Android on a Gtab myself by getting on (full $400 price) at Sears many moons ago. Loved it. Messed it up. Figured out how to restore it (along with XDA gurus!) and generally enjoyed the whole process. Found VEGAN to be my ROM of choice and went happily on my way.
Then the tablet explosion began.
Despite entreaties by many it would appear (at least to me) some time ago the Gtab is EOL. End Of Life merely means it, along with many other tabs are now declared abandoned by their respective manufacturers who are moving on to newer offerings. One sees this with all things tech including phones, desktops, OS, etc.
I really don't mean to sound like a curmudgeon, but if it weren't for talented devs like Robeet, et. al., we'd not see massaged ROMs we do even now. Got a feeling the Gtab is like the NookColor and other first gen tabs. Froyo, GB and perhaps a handful of modded ROMs based on the previous is going to be it. Which ain't bad but not the same.
It is what it is.
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That's only partly true. The mod community is still here and someone figured out how to get hardware acceleration working on the Advent Vega and there's no telling what will happen when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released. Sure Viewsonic gave up on it but they still support it (contrary to HP).
You make a valid point, chum. Never underestimate the imagination and talent of a dedicated developer! People have done some amazing things with tablets and will continue to do so. That said, a "wait and see" position while perhaps not all that encouraging, might indeed yield some extremely useful projects.
Time will tell!
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if the story is true and Motorola releases their XOOM / Everest tablet in 4 days, and its up to me.. ill be porting the honeycomb 3.0 to our tablet very,very fast..
at least its told here, its released with android honeycomb 3.0 but since Nvidia havent even posted their SDK for 3.0 on the tegra2 site, im not sure how reliabe it really is.. but lets just hope its true..
see here for the story and video preview.
another video
I feel confident we can adapt most apps and the OS, so please if you find more details or even a early system dump, don't hesitate to post it here..
God damnit, when you release honeycomb I will donate a hell lot of redbulls Go Dexter!
Just noticed yesterday they have a gingerbread-froyo branch on http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/
I think it will take a while until Google will release the source for Honeycomb. I doubt this will happen before the launch of the Motorola in February.
Honeycomb 3.0 on our folio, it sounds like a dream coming true (a)
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I think it will take a while until Google will release the source for Honeycomb. I doubt this will happen before the launch of the Motorola in February.
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if motorola is able to show the honeycomb running on their tegra2 tablet (or least saying it is) somehow the 3.0 is maybe only used internally now?
i don't think any video actually show the "version" number on their tablets, they're not like the community bragging alot showing release os pages or snaps
but lets hope it true.
I think Motorola and Google are working together on this. Motorola has access to the Honeycomb tree which has not been released to the public.
This is not uncommon in android history, as the Xoom will be the flagship device for Honeycomb, they have access to the source earlier.
This is the same as with he Motorola Droid and 2.0 or the Samsung Nexus S with 2.3
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I think Motorola and Google are working together on this. Motorola has access to the Honeycomb tree which has not been released to the public.
This is not uncommon in android history, as the Xoom will be the flagship device for Honeycomb, they have access to the source earlier.
This is the same as with he Motorola Droid and 2.0 or the Samsung Nexus S with 2.3
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This should be available soon! Google is talking in terms of weeks, and there's too many rumors and sneakpeaks to be a false positive!
The software for 3.0 will be retro compatible with earlier versions of android, but should take advantage of larger screens and faster processors.
We should remember that iPad 2 is to be release in February and Google must antecipate this in order to take the lead.
Toshiba is not very clear about folio 100 future update or not, and if it will be able to run honeycomb (except for processor part), but since toshiba is planning to release new tablet, personally I think it's gonna be only Gingerbread 2.3 for our folio 100, but I hope I'm wrong!!
The only hope for our folio 100 is xda dev forum and dexter
also folio 100 screen is not the best screen comparing to others cheap tablets, too bad from big company named Toshiba.
you can read this French test for folio 100 especially screen part over here Folio 100 test (google translation)
so wait and see..
Source: Honeycomb to Require Powerful Processor
Google's new Android Honeycomb tablet OS will require a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 processor to run properly, said Bobby Cha, managing director of Korean consumer electronics firm Enspert.
That means that many existing Android tablets will not be upgradeable to Honeycomb, as they lack the processor necessary to meet the spec. Currently, Nvidia's Tegra 2 platform is the only chipset in products on the market to include a Cortex-A9, although other manufacturers have said they're moving to the new processor architecture for 2011 products.
A 1,280x720 screen resolution may also be necessary, although Cha affirmed that "Honeycomb does not require 10-inch [screens] ... it's going to go as small as 7 inch."
Google introduced Honeycomb running on a prototype Motorola device last month, but they've kept the hardware requirements under wraps. Cha also confirmed that the Motorola tablet would be the first to market with Honeycomb.
If this is true, Google will have two parallel software paths for tablets, at least for a while. With their Cortex-A8 processors and 1,024x600 screens, the popular Samsung Galaxy Tab line of Android tablets run the "Froyo" version of Android, 2.2, and can be updated to Gingerbread, 2.3, but not to Honeycomb.
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This could be true, but i don't think they will stick to a single screen resolution! From what i understand resolution is not the main issue, cpu and memory is. In the 2.3 we already have support for different screen resolution, i don't think 3.0 will be different.
I don't now about you people, but I really don't count on Toshiba.
1% chance that toshiba will keep supporting this tablet, 99% chance that people like Dexter will keep supporting the folio. (my opinion^^)
Before the folio I had bought a toshiba laptop for my little brother, it is a fine laptop and prece-quality it deserves an A+, but after the folio... I don't think i will ever buy something from toshiba again...
Hi all,
TechRadar is revealing some rumors that honeycomb will in fact be 2.4 and not the 3.0 we are expecting. I believe that this could be true because they still have to support the recently launched tablets.
Android 3.0 could be a lot different from android we know and require more specific hardware to run.
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Yeah also heard these rumours, and it indeed could make some sense:
2.3 -> Gingerbread update for all devices
2.4 -> Honeycomb -> Gingerbread codebase with tablet modifications
3.0 -> unification of both versions, new codebase
hope our folio can upgrade to honeycomb
asus unveil new honeycomb tablet on 4th jan 2011:
Android 3.0 (Honeycomb)
NVIDIA Tegra 2
512MB/1GB RAM
16/32GB eMMC
10.1" 1280x800 IPS
1.2 MP front/5 MP rear
USB Host 2.0 support
Headphone/mic-in/mini HDMI/SD card reader/1 internal microphone/stereo speakers/dock port
273x180x17.7mm/886g
This is good news, if we manage to port the firmware I mean.
I also don't believe that toshiba will update the android version on Folio. They could release some update with Flash within, but they will not spend to much time supporting this "old tablet". This is in my opinion very very sad, and if you compare this with Apple you start to think that despite being more expensive iPad could in fact be a better deal.
The good news is that android is opensource and we could trust in the community aid.
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Bastospn
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This is good news, if we manage to port the firmware I mean.
I also don't believe that toshiba will update the android version on Folio. They could release some update with Flash within, but they will not spend to much time supporting this "old tablet". This is in my opinion very very sad, and if you compare this with Apple you start to think that despite being more expensive iPad could in fact be a better deal.
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i honestly think the hardware do have minor bugs, which Toshiba knows and don't want to continue the relationship with that company so the new tablet is probably made by someone else and with better display.
but yes foundation was actually quite ok when it got modded
I agree that hardware wise Folio is quite a good deal (if you ignore the lousy LCD screen).
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I don't know if you have seen the video of Honeycomb released by Google.
It's available at Engadget.
The GUI is looking very good.
oh my god i want that gmail app !!!
From a hardware perspective or our folio is good enough to hande honeycomb. 512 ram and a Tegra 2 (reference for it rumored).
And looking at the specs of the new ta let it's just a folio with a new screen. But time will tell!
Any more details on Honeycomb? I can't wait to see it running on my Folio!
Hope I'm not being sacrilegeous, but is it possible? I've always admired the platform, but the lack of apps always held me back from trying it.
Any possibility we could get WebOS running on the G tab?
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Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
spamhead said:
Because if number of available apps is the problem, WebOS is clearly the answer.
Thanks for the laugh.
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the lack of apps is whats kept him from trying Web OS (ie: buying a web os device) however hes interested in trying out the platform if he could get it running on his gtab.
but you clearly didn't pick that up and made an ass of yourself.
You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
I doubt it, but it would be awesome. WebOS is a stunningly beautiful OS. I love the way it looks, feels, and works. To me, it's up there with android in the multitasking department and surpasses it in design (though honeycomb is getting close). I had a pre for about 6 months and sometimes miss some of the things it did. That being said, as of june 2010, it was buggy as all get out and the app store was severly lacking.
I second the request for someone to look into this though, as it would be a lot of fun to play with.
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You're right (on both counts).
Not the first or last time I make an ass of myself on the internet.
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Hey, at least you owned up to it
I bought a Palm Pre the day it was released, I thought WebOS was pretty damn awesome, but they released it on hardware of the worst quality (my Pre oreo'd like a mofo, and the touchscreen stopped working 9 months in). That and the fact that they didn't license it out like Android pretty much doomed it from the start.
Nice to see HP giving it a go, and #2 tablet world is wide open at the moment, but I wouldn't choose it over Android. Would be fun to play with though.
CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webos. hmmm, ARM-based and Linux based. Interesting.....
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CPU is probably the big obstacle - anyone know what WebOS is compiled for? I actually know very little about the device.
If, for example, the hardware was ARM based then it's in the realm of possibility.
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original pre was an omap processor, not sure if that is arm or not. I think texas instruments was the manufacturer
Btw I thought of this after reading about all the work done on the HTC HD2 and and HD7 running both Windows x.x and Android concurrently. Android Central recently had an article about WebOS 3.0 where they said it is starting to look mighty impressive.
I've always enjoyed Android and how customizable it is, but have enjoyed the UI from WebOS (one of my cousin owned a Pre).
Btw I enjoy using all platforms, I've been on Windows, OS X, and Ubunut for desktops and laptops, and for Smartphones I've used WM 6 (and prior), Blackberry, iOS, and Android. I tend to go with the one that suits my needs/wants best. Now that tablets are starting to be on the rise, I haven't set in stone which one I prefer yet. I picked up a Gtab from Woot knowing that there is a strong community of modders in addition to some solid internal hardware and specs.
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I know nothing about the programming side, but if we could get the ball rolling on this, I'm ready and willing to use my time and hardware for testing.
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Web os is now open source.
Anyone interested
Ubunut!
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..., and Ubunut ...
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LOL! Is this the name for an Ubuntu fanatic?
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
cotangent05 said:
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
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Hey there,
Have some confidence. It was a big battle between the community and nvidia to support the older tegra 2 procs and we won on that. Now the only thing that we are waiting on is google to release the AOSP for Honeycomb to 3rd party this way Viewsonic can get their devs working on a stable OS for our tablets. This all takes time and it will come thru.
cotangent05 said:
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
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This isn't even remotely surprising, is it? The bridge android tablet devices that predate the official Google release of a tablet-based version of Android (ie, Honeycomb) were orphans from the start. Just enjoy it for what it is, or sell it and move on to the next big thing. It's likely that gingerbread (already happening), and honeycomb (if that source ever gets released) will be unofficially supported in time.
If your Gtab does what you want it to, why not enjoy it? If it doesn't, then happily move away from it.
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If your Gtab does what you want it to, why not enjoy it? If it doesn't, then happily move away from it.
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Exactly. The tablet market is moving fast, and in a few months everything currently on the market is going to be obsolete. If the gTab works well now -- and mine definitely does -- replacing it immediately just out of spite to ViewSonic doesn't seem to make much sense.
I'll wait till the next generation of processing hardware comes out ... by then, Honeycomb might actually be ready for prime time.
a user from this forum asked viewsonic about this..
FROM CD112:
"can you please let us know when we will start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers. Nvidia is willing to work with viewsonic to get a stable and decent working rom for the gtablet. I know this seems odd but there has been about 4 tablets released after viewsonic gtablet that are currently runing Android honeycomb 3.0 and the Gtab is still running froyo 2.2. It is time for a upgrade guys. Please.
Also can you please release the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
This is the answer that i got back.
1. When will we start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers?
Answer: The gTablet is based upon nVidia's Harmony platform. Unfortunately, nVidia has chosen not to provide driver support on Harmony for either Gingerbread or Honeycomb.
2. Approximate release date of the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
Answer: A release date is not yet scheduled."
and the viewsonic's answer.. damn viewsonic..! their killing us slowly..
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a user from this forum asked viewsonic about this..
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I think this post predates the whole nvidia debate.
All the talk about nvidia not supporting harmony was official refuted by nvidia themselves.
cotangent05 said:
i can tell the world of our gtablet is closely falling apart.. :| because of Lack of updates from viewsonic and nvdia(hardware acceleration)..
HONEYCOMB is raging in the market already.. why not in Gtab?
our great developers are moving forward.. and are gtab is becoming history already..
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What do you mean our developers are moving forward? If you mean buying other tablets, yes probably. Because most of the "devs" are tech freaks haha.
As far as I'm concerned, Viewsonic or Nvidia had nothing to do with the progress that our current devs have made with the Gtablet Roms. My faith is in them not Viewsonic or Nvidia.
Also, if you've seen the dev section there have been updates up the ying yang with the CM ROM, the kernels, Vegan and even Roebeets ROMS. Roebeet was the one that had the most concern with the lack of viewsonic support because his TNT ROM was based on Viewsonic's base rom. That's why I understood his frustration. However, as of late he has moved to the Vega build just like Gojimi with his Brilliant Corners ROM. So I think he will have more room to mod since he isn't as reliant on Viewsonic.
So yes, eventually the devs will move on but for now I do not see that they have abandoned the gtablet. All the early players are still updating their ROMs with the exception of Rothnic. I wonder how he's doing.
As for honeycomb, wait until google releases the AOSP. Do you think that the CM team, Gojimi, Roebeet, etc won't try to put honeycomb on the gtablet?!?! They won't be able to resist. They are devs and modders, it's in their DNA.
Hmmm yeah I've seen the new rom which is the brilliant corners, i personally thanking a lot to our dev ... And the gtablet being the most active here in xda and other forums... But we are lacking some love from the official company ,
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Gingerbread has been raging since December and there aren't many phones who've gotten updates yet until recent. There are still high end phones coming out with froyo. I don't see GB or HC coming to the VS anytime soon.
cotangent05 said:
Hmmm yeah I've seen the new rom which is the brilliant corners, i personally thanking a lot to our dev ... And the gtablet being the most active here in xda and other forums... But we are lacking some love from the official company ,
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I've learned since buying an Android device that relying on the manufacturer to bring updates is stressing. So I will not buy a product unless it is capable of being rooted. I'm just glad the gtab received official support from the CM team. They figure out some crazy stuff over there at a faster rate than the actual manufacturers. And not too mention the XDA devs too!
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Gingerbread has been raging since December and there aren't many phones who've gotten updates yet until recent. There are still high end phones coming out with froyo. I don't see GB or HC coming to the VS anytime soon.
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Your actually incorrect on that June/July we will have source codes for Harmony gingerbread drivers from there we can move forward to further advance our tablets. LG is working on a 2.3.4 release for the Optimus 2x harmony platform which Nvidia has to support and develop for.
Look it up and I posted links in the general section.
I don't really get what hardware acceleration is....is it when you turn your device in portrait mode/landscape mode? because i heard that Vegan Tab GingerEdition doesn't support hardware Acceleration
Hardware acceleration allows a hardware to operate faster than what the software can do. In the gtab, when we say hardware acceleration we are actually referring mostly to audio and graphics hardware acceleration.
Try to think of it this way. Suppose you are put into a maze and you want to get the other side. Without a map, you'd be wandering around until you get to the end. If you're smart, you can mark where you were, draw out a map as you go along, and even explore the maze in a pattern that allows you to find the route faster.
But wouldn't it be much easier if someone gives you the map of the maze and all you have to do is follow the map and voila you're done?
That's what hardware acceleration is. The cpu is sequential, performing one function at a time. Just the software alone isn't enough to optimize the hardware (audio and graphics). We need the drivers for them for optimization.
Unfortunately, those bastards at nvidia and google decided orphan harmony users barely 4 months after its release. Greedy corporate SoBs.
that's an awesome explanation, nice one!
But yes, no gingerbread support for our hardware's drivers which means things will rely more on CPU power and take more resources to do. Currently, since the device shipped with Froyo, Froyo drivers are all we got. However, if I understand correctly, an official Honeycomb rom was released for one of our sister devices, and we may be able to get native drivers from that.
We'll see.
Dishe said:
that's an awesome explanation, nice one!
But yes, no gingerbread support for our hardware's drivers which means things will rely more on CPU power and take more resources to do. Currently, since the device shipped with Froyo, Froyo drivers are all we got. However, if I understand correctly, an official Honeycomb rom was released for one of our sister devices, and we may be able to get native drivers from that.
We'll see.
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Unfortunately, if you're referring to the viewsonic 7 incher HC tab, it's not exactly a sister of the gtab. The gtab is an adopted child and the 7 incher is a birth child.
And also unfortunately, if you're referring to the adam, NI didn't release a HC update from the google source code. They released a hacked version ripped from the transformer.
Just stick with froyo for now.
OK so you're telling me that i'm better off running a Froyo Rom then the GtabComb that is currently out just because of hardware acceleration?
skotter said:
OK so you're telling me that i'm better off running a Froyo Rom then the GtabComb that is currently out just because of hardware acceleration?
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Sort of. He's saying that the only native hardware support currently exists in Froyo, so if you want everything to work as intended, that's really the best option.
If you want bleeding edge, its cool that we CAN run Honeycomb, but they are mostly frankenroms, pieced together from various sources and don't work 100%. I've noticed a dramatic difference in the way my tablet runs when I go back to Froyo from anything else- the transitions are smoother, response is faster, clicks more responsive, more apps work, hardware like the camera works, etc., and with hardware acceleration you can watch an HD video without resorting to overclocking and winding down your battery faster in the process.
Really, IMO, everything is better in Froyo and the only reason to have so much interest in the newer roms is for intellectual purposes (or just to say you can). They really don't run as well yet.
Now, there was a bit of a splash recently when someone on tabletroms managed to get a Honeycomb kernel from the Acer Iconia to boot on a Notion Ink Adam (very similar hardware to ours) without any modification. That means a lot of native driver support for Honeycomb might be coming soon. But not yet.
Dishe said:
Sort of. He's saying that the only native hardware support currently exists in Froyo, so if you want everything to work as intended, that's really the best option.
If you want bleeding edge, its cool that we CAN run Honeycomb, but they are mostly frankenroms, pieced together from various sources and don't work 100%. I've noticed a dramatic difference in the way my tablet runs when I go back to Froyo from anything else- the transitions are smoother, response is faster, clicks more responsive, more apps work, hardware like the camera works, etc., and with hardware acceleration you can watch an HD video without resorting to overclocking and winding down your battery faster in the process.
Really, IMO, everything is better in Froyo and the only reason to have so much interest in the newer roms is for intellectual purposes (or just to say you can). They really don't run as well yet.
Now, there was a bit of a splash recently when someone on tabletroms managed to get a Honeycomb kernel from the Acer Iconia to boot on a Notion Ink Adam (very similar hardware to ours) without any modification. That means a lot of native driver support for Honeycomb might be coming soon. But not yet.
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Can you recommend me some Froyo ROMs that are stable, fast, fully functional, and has good battery life?
Thanks.
Vegan 5.1.1 is an old rom but all the hardware works. Plants vs Zombies works, but Gun Bros doesn't (at least on mine).
problem with 5.1.1 is that there isn't much support going on and some of the code is outdated.
Over at slatedroid, I'm trying out Brilliant Corners (based on vegantab, but more updated kernel, etc) and so far its everything 5.1.1 offers and then some. Quite happy with it, and everything seems to run full speed.
When I was running Ginger roms a month ago, I happened to review a Samsung Galaxy tab 10 and some other tablets with the same tegra 2 chipset as ours. I was so disappointed in my G-tab, I didn't realize how slow it had gotten without HW acceleration. Since installing Brilliant Corners, I'm much happier with it.
Brilliant Corners is a respected ROM and seems to be the best choice if you want to go to the 1.2 bootloader, but I'm not aware of anything in BC that is so much better than Vegan to make me bother changing.
mike_ekim said:
Brilliant Corners is a respected ROM and seems to be the best choice if you want to go to the 1.2 bootloader, but I'm not aware of anything in BC that is so much better than Vegan to make me bother changing.
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Includes an updated kernel with overclocking ability, etc, built in. You could technically flash your own kernel to use with Vegan, but I think there are some more little bugfixes as well since someone is actively working on it. For example, when Netflix wasn't working on it (before the recent update), Roebeet was actively trying to find out what made it work in CM7 so that the changes could be applied to his roms. He eventually did release some patches to get it partially working. VeganTab doesn't get that kind of love at the moment.
Caulkin
Caulkin's Rom (Froyo) I feel is the best, minus the fact that the stock browser for it is awful. I've found it to be the fastest, and most stable with the best support for usb devices and mounting the gtab to a pc. Also, I would recommend installing pershoots Froyo kernel.
roberto188 said:
Caulkin's Rom (Froyo) I feel is the best, minus the fact that the stock browser for it is awful. I've found it to be the fastest, and most stable with the best support for usb devices and mounting the gtab to a pc. Also, I would recommend installing pershoots Froyo kernel.
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caulkin's rom has issue with sound in mobo player. sound is extremely small almost muted. because of this, i'm going to beasty rom and so far happy with it
Here is the link:
http://www.slashgear.com/android-ice-cream-sandwich-devices-to-arrive-in-october-09170602/
A new rumor is spreading today that we could be seeing devices with Google’s next-gen Android platform, called Ice Cream Sandwich, launching as early as October. Since Apple’s iPhone 5 is expected to arrive sometime in September or October, it’s believed that Google will rush the new platform to counter the major Apple development.
Google may also be concerned about getting Ice Cream Sandwich devices out before November because that month marks the two-year anniversary of the original Motorola Droid. The Droid is considered by many to be the first handset to really put Android on the map and make it a serious contender in the mobile market. With the two-year contracts expiring, these customers, now free to switch phones and even carriers completely penatly-free, may jump for the iPhone 5.
Android 4 Ice Cream Sandwich was first announced back at Google I/O and will be a unifying platform for both tablets and smartphones. Currently, tablets run on Android Honeycomb while smartphones run on Android Gingerbread. With Ice Cream Sandwich, smartphones will get many of the Honeycomb features such as the multitasking UI, the launcher, and richer widgets.
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First screenshots of Android Ice Cream Sandwich :
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...m-sandwich-screenshots-plus-more-ics-details/
I wonder if we can expect this for the gtablet. I hope so!
Edit I don't think so anymore lol
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barqers said:
I wonder if we can expect this for the gtablet. I hope so!
Edit I don't think so anymore lol
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Don't forget that Google will release it HoneyComb source code if Ice Cream is released.
And since Ice Cream is a hybrid of the phone and tablet, let just hope some Genius dev. here will put out a rom version for out Gtablet
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Don't forget that Google will release it HoneyComb source code if Ice Cream is released.
And since Ice Cream is a hybrid of the phone and tablet, let just hope some Genius dev. here will put out a rom version for out Gtablet
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Agreed. I wish I was genius enough to help out but unfortunately I know very little about Linux ! Being a Windows user myself.
My expectations are lower, I hope they release IceCream for a similar device so some awesome devs can make it mostly work on the gTab.
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My expectations are lower, I hope they release IceCream for a similar device so some awesome devs can make it mostly work on the gTab.
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As long as it works similarly to the current hc roms ill be happy
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barqers said:
I wonder if we can expect this for the gtablet. I hope so!
Edit I don't think so anymore lol
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Don't hold your breath!!! Viewsonic just posted this on their Facebook page Monday:
ViewSonic
All,
Maybe this will help. The OTA updater is not controlled by ViewSonic, and the 4349 update was pulled, apparently because there were issues with that version.
In the last three weeks, we have been trying to clear up erroneous information in regards to our support, nVidia, and the OTA. We are still working on some of these issues.
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
OTA Update: We are still awaiting a response from Flex regarding authorization for TNT. We will post information regarding this issue, when we learn more.
There it is again, no drivers, no android updates past Froyo = no official Honey or Ice Cream from Viewsonic!!!!
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Don't hold your breath!!! Viewsonic just posted this on their Facebook page Monday:
ViewSonic
All,
Maybe this will help. The OTA updater is not controlled by ViewSonic, and the 4349 update was pulled, apparently because there were issues with that version.
In the last three weeks, we have been trying to clear up erroneous information in regards to our support, nVidia, and the OTA. We are still working on some of these issues.
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
OTA Update: We are still awaiting a response from Flex regarding authorization for TNT. We will post information regarding this issue, when we learn more.
There it is again, no drivers, no android updates past Froyo = no official Honey or Ice Cream from Viewsonic!!!!
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Figures. Time to boycott nvidia and vyewsonic lol. Honestly I don't know why they think we care about their ota stuff when it won't even include updated drivers?
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Don't hold your breath!!! Viewsonic just posted this on their Facebook page Monday:
ViewSonic
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
There it is again, no drivers, no android updates past Froyo = no official Honey or Ice Cream from Viewsonic!!!!
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Not so true, VS is lying and a BIG lie:
Quote from other forum:
Aug 8 2011 at 6:18 PM
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To Nvidea:
Viewsonic had a Facebook discussion that they opened for Gtablet users to pst concerns and questions. Many of us have asked Viewsonic to request drivers from Nvidea for Gingerbread, or Honeycomb support. We were told, in a prior post on this very forum:
For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on.
Less than an hour ago, Viewsonic updated their Facebook discussion to include this update:
All,
Maybe this will help. The OTA updater is not controlled by ViewSonic, and the 4349 update was pulled, apparently because there were issues with that version.
In the last three weeks, we have been trying to clear up erroneous information in regards to our support, nVidia, and the OTA. We are still working on some of these issues.
FACT - nVidia is only supporting Gingerbread and Honeycomb on their Ventana platform. gTablet will NOT see drivers or Android upgrades beyond Android 2.2 from ViewSonic. ViewSonic has had direct conversations with nVidia about this issue.
OTA Update: We are still awaiting a response from Flex regarding authorization for TNT. We will post information regarding this issue, when we learn more.
So, what exactly is the truth? Nvidie told us that they would provide support on all versions of android that a hardware partner (including Viewsonic) requests until that hardware partner (including Viewsonic) chooses not to support the device.
But, not Viewsonic (hardware partner) states that Nvidia will only support Gingerbread and Honeycomb on the Ventana platform. Viewsonic is showing that they are not "choosing to not support their device, and that they have made an attempt to request support for the the hardware from Nvidia.
Basic questions here:
Did Viewsonic contact Nvidia to attempt to get hardware support above Android 2.2 for the Gtablet?
Will Nvidia stay true to their comment and provide support for ALL android versions at the request of the hardware partner?
If Viewsonic did request such support, and Nvidia has pledged to provide such support for ALL android versions, then why would Viewsonic tell their Gtablet users that Nvidia will not support any android version above 2.2 for the Harmony platform?
I can certainly say that Viewsonic Gtablet OWNERS are a little more than sick and tired of the runaround that we're getting. We are upset at Viewsonic, many of us beginning a boycott campaign. I personally, have pledged to provide negative comments in reviews of ALL Viewsonic products on various online retailer sites. I won't be reviewing products, but rather product support and customer service. It wouldn't be too difficult to do the same to Nvidia products as well. When the Tegra 3 is released, will support for all Tegra 2 devices (not just harmony) be cut off as well? Will the Xoom, Iconia, EEE pad, etc, not have official drivers for Ice Cream Sandwich, or other, yet to be determined, Android versions? That could be a lot of potential negativity for a publicly traded company. I'm sure that stockholders wouldn't appreciate it.
Please respond in kind to these questions, and let me know in the most basic terms. Will Tegra 2 Harmony devices ever get support from Nvidia for any Android version above 2.2? I don't want corporate double speak, a simple yes or no answer will suffice.
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Now, how about Malata & Adam Inc, Vegan ??? Are there any light out of the tunnel for them, specially Adam & Vaga as they are pushing Honeycomb development forward ... We will see the true until Google release the HC source code, if that nvidia will release it driver for the HC harmony too ... if not than it's time to boycott both Google for being a big fat cow and nvidia & VS for it noncooperation
Who's the bad boy!!!
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Not so true, VS is lying and a BIG lie:
Quote from other forum:
Now, how about Malata & Adam Inc, Vegan ??? Are there any light out of the tunnel for them, specially Adam & Vaga as they are pushing Honeycomb development forward ... We will see the true until Google release the HC source code, if that nvidia will release it driver for the HC harmony too ... if not than it's time to boycott both Google for being a big fat cow and nvidia & VS for it noncooperation
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Unfortunately, companies can & do change their tune on a regular basis. Just because NVidia said they would support Harmony doesn't mean they actually will or haven't changed their minds. Maybe the next step is badgering NVidia to support their product!!! Sounds like the ball is in NVidia's ball park & it's up to them if we will get to play!
nVidia & Viewsonic want to force us to buy NEW devices. Too bad you have not even had it for a year and support is gone! Heck Apple is still supporting the original iPad and Touch products!
The full potential of our gTabs has not even been scratched and and it is being treated like a Touchpad. Makes me sick
well since theyre forcing me to, I guess I will have to get a new tablet...
but I can assure you it wont be nvidia or viewsonic branded
Im going TI OMAP with the next tablet, for sure!