Going fishing, rogue wave crashed on our boat (huge wave). Everything saturated. USB rusted almost immediately, despite my efforts, limited by being on a saturated boat.
Phone won't charge.
I've tried rice, q tips, alcohol, scraping...
It seems my phone also thinks the headset is plugged in, icon won't go away.
Thoughts on repairs?
Where is the best place to get a new USB part for the t959?
Any ideas are appreciated. Cashing in on any favors that I can...
I found this "charging port"... Guessing that's what I need. My phone is dying now, looked like they don't sell to the public?
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/category-s/6611.htm
Let me say I have experience in this
I have been doing Underwater photography for 25 + years and housing do leak.... and when they do, your Nikon or Video camera is about to be toast....... in short I have had many many episodes of salt water intrusion. Even the least amount will destroy lens coating or cause a micro short on a board or switch ruining a 1000.00 camera or lens.
Here is The Gist of how to fix a salt water episode:
1. if you got salt water on something, Immediately remove the battery 1st thing
2. Disassemble a bit... In this case remove the 7 screws on the back and pop the back plastic with 2 guitar picks
3. Use 90% rubbing alcohol (or better 200 proof moonshine if you can get it)
The drinking alcohol is better at getting the h2o molecules to adhere to the alcohol molecules, but rubbing alcohol is plenty good enough.. Immerse in the alcohol..... Like..... totally under , so you will need a decent volume (ahhh use rubbing alcohol, no reason to waste all the good Redneck Sambuca ingredient)
4. Leave for 30- 60 min minimum ...I have left over night a Nikon body with no ill effects then clean with cloth or paper towel and one of those cute brushes you wife has for makeup (clean no makeup plz)....... to dry, then inspect with a loupe carefully. Once you know there is no discernible damage then you can put in rice over night blow it off with compressed air from a can reassemble and try it out.
The most important thing about salt water is if voltage stays on the device with saltwater it will jack the electronics faster than a fox running out of a hen house.
Hope that helps
That's so surprising to me... I can really just drop it into alcohol? That doesn't cause damage to electronics?
I don't think there is any more water.. so what does alcohol help do?
I did cut my phone off, almost immediately. I was forced to cut it on while out on the boat though. I didn't really know there was an issue then, left it on.
I cleaned the charging port well, left in rice... My phone is basically dead now, using the wifes nexus one now.
anyone know a legit place to buy the charging port?
The alcohol causes the water molecules to attach to the alcohol, which prevents the water from causing damage.............. chemistry........ gotta love it, But without the water the salt can not cause electrolytic reaction thus preventing the corrosive effect. Also most of the circuit boards have conformal coating (usually a urethane type these days) which gives the circuit board a water proofing, but solder joints and other places are not protected.
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The alcohol causes the water molecules to attach to the alcohol, which prevents the water from causing damage.............. chemistry........ gotta love it, But without the water the salt can not cause electrolytic reaction thus preventing the corrosive effect. Also most of the circuit boards have conformal coating (usually a urethane type these days) which gives the circuit board a water proofing, but solder joints and other places are not protected.
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Very well put you've made me proud, if you want to be completely sure you are cleaning the surface completely see if you can get your hands on pure acetone (stuff is in nail polish) it will remove any organic residues that might facilitate corrosion, afterwards a rinse with distilled water could be allowed.
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What about mobile tech videos? I'd link but I'm on my phone. Those guys do repairs. Sorry I don't have any expert advice. But if you have to send it off ill make a donation towards the repair bill.
Well, looks like i'm a blackberry user until I can try some of these great suggestions.
I had no idea you could submerge your phone in those liquids.
Once i'm off this island, I'll try and break the phone down and see how bad I am.
Anyone know where I can buy the charging port?
Greggory, Very kind if you to offer that man, not sure I'd feel right accepting that. I'll check their site out. Can you pm me any information about them?
I sent you a pm.
You can sign up as a refurbisher
Phone is completely (COMPLETELY) disassembled.
Corrosion honestly does not seem as bad as I expected.
Off to buy acetone. So I can really just leave the mother board and drive reader in this liquid?? Casey... I trust you, but dang that is scary to me!!
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something else I forgot, if you are in a place where you cannot fix immediately, then Pull battery as fast as you can and then wash in fresh water if nothing else or Jack Daniels
Putting a whole phone full of electronic things in alcohol seems unsafe to me, and since idk anything about this subject it also does seem like the phone would be MORE screwed up if you did that but idk so go ahead.
I'd try and think my way into getting a refurb
alright, completely broken down, acetone on many of the parts (dabbed most)... submerged for a minute or so on the USB/charge port.
Good news: the headset icon has now disappeared, so that's fixed.
Bad news: my vibrant still wont charge.
I think I need to buy a new mother board or charge port. Anyone know the best place to buy one? Going to register on global direct now.
xriderx66 said:
Putting a whole phone full of electronic things in alcohol seems unsafe to me, and since idk anything about this subject it also does seem like the phone would be MORE screwed up if you did that but idk so go ahead.
I'd try and think my way into getting a refurb
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It is just basic Chemistry, understanding compatibility interactions (or reaction is the key) with almost All electronics Alcohol really is pretty benign. De-ionized water is the preferred cleaning agent but then it usually is washed with pure drinking alcohol to make sure there is no remaining water molecules left.
Acetone is pretty safe EXCEPT some of the plastic that the housings are made can be reactive (dissolve from it) to it. So, even though the electronics are safe the housing could possibly lose its shine (become dulled).
BTW, it is this understanding of chemistry (or lack of) that causes so many manufacturing and installation/assembly problems. People change mix designs all the time and forget to inform others of the change thus causing recalls , lawsuits, etc.
Hope you get a new mother board S15274n
^ Just went to T-Mo, they were know help to me.
Called Samsung and they said I still had warranty until OCT (suppose they add 3 months on from the 1 year mark). I am going to take my chances and send them my phone for repair.
I'm not hopeful, but we'll see what I can talk their tech into.
Duuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuude!
I am sorry to hear this on so many levels. I hope Sammy will fix it or replace it for you brotha! You are an invaluable member of this community man, we can't afford to lose you. I am tempted to get you an otter box (not the phone case, but the real thing) in order to keep your electronic devices safe when deep sea fishing or anything else that might get it wet.
Yea we cant loose him he is one of my fave people in community
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Br1cK'd said:
Duuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuude!
I am sorry to hear this on so many levels. I hope Sammy will fix it or replace it for you brotha! You are an invaluable member of this community man, we can't afford to lose you. I am tempted to get you an otter box (not the phone case, but the real thing) in order to keep your electronic devices safe when deep sea fishing or anything else that might get it wet.
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appreciate the very kind words. Phone is with UPS now, en route to samsung. I imagine they will easily notice I have opened it, did the gps hardware hack and completely disassembled it... not to mention the corrosion that I did not get off the charging port, haha...
o well, if there is a miracle, they will just send me a refurb and not bug me. The techs are supposed to call if they will not repair it... I'll see if I can talk them into it.
please tell oka1 (casey) how awesome he is.... My man just sent me a phone to use until i can get this all sorted out.
I dont care what anyone says... There is no better community, than this android community... None. Complete strangers helping each other, for nothing other than to help!!
Thank you guys, awesome to be a small part of this.
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please tell oka1 (casey) how awesome he is.... My man just sent me a phone to use until i can get this all sorted out.
I dont care what anyone says... There is no better community, than this android community... None. Complete strangers helping each other, for nothing other than to help!!
Thank you guys, awesome to be a small part of this.
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That is just plain awesome! Also makes me glad I am part of this community.
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Has anyone else noticed that when the tablet is charging, if you rub your fingers very lightly on the metal back you will feel what seems like very light vibrations? I tried this on two primes and each does the same----this only happens when the AC is plugged into the prime. It's as if the tablet is not properly grounded or something. I really want to like this thing but I have growing doubts about Asus' build quality.
For example, lightly rub the back left side from bottom to top. Keep your right off the tablet. Once you feel the tingling grasp the tablet with your hand (touching the metal of course). You should now notice the tingling can't be replicated with your left hand... As if your right hand is now grounding the tablet. Remove your right hand and continue rubbing with your left hand. Good vibrations??
Yeah I was wondering what that was
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Have it on mine too, wtf?
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Same thing happened on the dock of the original Transformer (TF101).
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My macbook pro does that too. I wouldn't be concerned, just don't take a bath with it.
Thats just the prime sapping your life force, please disregard.
how do you guys find all these things? Y'all have too much time on your hand's!
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Has anyone else noticed that when the tablet is charging, if you rub your fingers very lightly on the metal back you will feel what seems like very light vibrations? I tried this on two primes and each does the same----this only happens when the AC is plugged into the prime. It's as if the tablet is not properly grounded or something. I really want to like this thing but I have growing doubts about Asus' build quality.
For example, lightly rub the back left side from bottom to top. Keep your right off the tablet. Once you feel the tingling grasp the tablet with your hand (touching the metal of course). You should now notice the tingling can't be replicated with your left hand... As if your right hand is now grounding the tablet. Remove your right hand and continue rubbing with your left hand. Good vibrations??
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at first i couldn't feel it but i found it, weird feeling but kinda cool
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Can't replicate the issue or maybe just don't realize it but nothing to worry about I'm sure
This was a problem with the original transformer too
Flipping the charger upside-down fixed the problem for the original
Try that?
Shouldn't be anything to worry about though, it happens with a lot of laptops too
http://google.com/search?q=tingly+sensation+when+charging
I don't have mine yet, but I'd put a multimeter on it.
Is this when you're charging via the 120v USB adapter or a micro-USB cable? If it's via the 120v adapter you don't have a ground at the outlet.
USB has a ground wire but if the adapter doesn't have a ground, then the ground in the TP is only going to be a floating ground. Now I'm not an electrician, but my understanding is that this kind of ground tends to feed back into the power source, or in this case, the battery. The lid is likely grounded to this circuit, meaning if you walk across a thick carpet and touch the lid of your Transformer, instead of possibly frying your Transformer, the electricity is thrown off into the battery / charging circuit.
If someone can provide a more educated answer it would be appreciated, but this appears to be by design... better to protect the electronics in the device than worry about a couple volts escaping the charging circuit onto the back of the device. It seems to me like there would be a diode somewhere to only let power flow from the back into the charging circuit instead of allowing the opposite... but perhaps someone can explain this.
EDIT - I think I figured it out. There probably is a diode between the chassis ground and the charging circuit so that voltage to the chassis will ground to the battery instead of the battery pushing voltage to the chassis, but when the battery is being charged and thus already has all the voltage flowing in that it can handle, the rest of the device has to ground somewhere since the 120v adapter does not allow for an earth ground. So the TFP's circuits are grounding to the chassis during charging for lack of anywhere else to ground to.
I'm willing to bet that using a micro-USB charging cable would solve this issue since the TFP could ground back to the PC at the other end via the USB ground wire instead of the chassis.
You must really love your prime if you were gently stroking its back while it charged...lol...that said, mine does it too.
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Solution found - just do this!
Got some rubber Gloves?
Seriously, this is EXACTLY the same issue as we all experienced with the TF101. It is a polarity/grounding issue with the horrendously cheap charging unit supplied with the Transformer. A simple reversal of the polarity on the charger will stop the issue.
With the TF101, they released 2 different "fixed" charging... transformers, pun intended, and neither one made the slightest difference. I was seriously freaked when I first felt the "buzz" from the metal areas of the TF101, and did a LOT of research on it.
The weird thing is, they could have made one blade wider on the step down charger, to force it one way in the wall socket, but my guess it, it's different in different areas: Meaning, I had to put my charger in "upside down" (with the ASUS logo being upside down to eliminate the tingle, but at least one other person needed it the reverse.
It is seriously creepy feeling (some claim to like it LOL) and I can NOT believe that having a trickle of current, no matter how tiny, running across the entire casing can be good for the longevity of the device. When I saw that the charger was essentially unchanged form the TF101, I was seriously worried that the issue would still occur, and, of course with a full metal jacket, it would be that much more bothersome.
I do NOT expect ASUS to resolve this, since they never did on the first transformer, so it, just get used to plugging in the right way each time.
Anyone want to volunteer touch the casein when the buzz is present while in a bathtub? Might make for an interesting lawsuit.
I am actually semi-serious. Years ago we had a cheap Taiwanese video card fry the GPU, set off smoke alarms and bring out the Fire Department in the middle of the night. When I returned it the bottom of the pricing food chain warehouse, ALL of the employees came to the counter (all 12 of them, LOL) and wanted a look at it. You could see the noticeable worry on their faces, and what appeared to be actual fear in their eyes. Somewhat intrigued, I asked: "So why are you guys so worried about this? Answer: "We have a few hundred of these sold, and one in OUR labs fried last night, and actually started a fire. We are concerned about the others that are out there now...."
I'll BET they were. Asus isn't going to set anything afire, short of some tempers, but this is NOT a good issue to see an a "Premium" Top Tier Tablet. On THIS issue, I will be communication with ASUS.
Has anyone taken a multimeter and measured this? Touch one probe to the back of the Transformer Prime, and the other to a grounded or large metal object - a sink faucet or metal handrail etc..
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Anyone want to volunteer touch the casein when the buzz is present while in a bathtub? Might make for an interesting lawsuit.
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Ohh .... let me try *facepalm*
Lol
With the lawyer saying "my client was simply using his tablet in the bath ... whilst charging it"
Good plan batman
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My macbook pro does that too. I wouldn't be concerned, just don't take a bath with it.
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didn't someone die from doing that?
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It's the same with the original Transformer, never had any problem whatsoever with that. don't worry it won't eat you, burns your house or erase your HDD (though, I wouldn't try this one if i were you.)
If you want to worry about something related, worry about the AC charger, if it's the same as the original one it definitly looks like a fire hazard.
My aluminium HP laptop also has this. Same for my Desire Z. Nothing to worry about; move along people!
Testing testing...
I intent to take a multimeter to it, as soon as I GET that darned ting, and right after I test for light bleed, Wifi performance wne whetheI am one of the "lucky" one who's GPS actually functions.
MAN, am I glad I got the "Premium" experience of the Transfomer Prime.
Hello! My uncle's Xperia X10 swum in orange juice for around 20minutes in his bag 2 weeks ago. Now he gave his phone to me so I can try to fix it. What I did was, a full teardown. I put the motherboard and all the other parts into a big bowl of dry rice. I put it in there 7 hours ago but I want to leave it in there for like 2 days more.
I tried to power it on ONCE. It vibrated and continusely shows Sony Ericsson in the middle of the screen (with low brightness level). That's the only thing it shows me.
I quickly shut it down to prevent further damage.
tuk1maar said:
Hello! My uncle's Xperia X10 swum in orange juice for around 20minutes in his bag 2 weeks ago.
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20 minutes eh? You could be happy, that it works somehow... I was fixing these phones after many liquids, but without immediate take from they died.
tuk1maar said:
I put the motherboard and all the other parts into a big bowl of dry rice. I put it in there 7 hours ago but I want to leave it in there for like 2 days more.
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Bowl of rise???!!! Really weird solution, but better than nothing...
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I tried to power it on ONCE. It vibrated and continusely shows Sony Ericsson in the middle of the screen (with low brightness level). That's the only thing it shows me.
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OK, something works with it, but it doesnt load an ROM, maybe reflashing will be enough. But firtsly look very closely on motherboards BGA chips, meybe there is an shortcut on memory chip or dried juice caused somewhere little resistance where it shouldnt be.
As I do in all cases, is to buy alcohol for cleaning pcbs and use it for complete wash and clean carefully with a soft toothbrush. When finished, put board in hot place (about 80 degrees of celsius is ideal) for about an 1 hour.
After this, try reflashing - but phone will maybe start itself
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I quickly shut it down to prevent further damage.
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With this I agree, dont turn it on for long time, if not nessesary.
I baked the motherboard in the oven at 200 degrees Celcius for 10minutes. Then I let it cool down for 30minutes and now it does not even vibrate anymore Also shows no display. Mabey I have to wait longer?
I already reflashed the phone over 10 times. It did nothing good
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I baked the motherboard in the oven at 200 degrees Celcius for 10minutes. Then I let it cool down for 30minutes and now it does not even vibrate anymore
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OMG, told you that ideal is about 80 degrees of Celsius. Industrialstandart capacitors can holt up to 110 degrees and 220 degrees in point when lead-free iron on contacts of all components is melting!
If you used oven for baking, you have burnt it. When drying any PCB using hot air is the must.
Sorry, i think you have completely damaged the board.
But I let it first dry in the oven for 10 minutes with the door of the oven opened up a quarter.
I saw alot youtube video's about people doing this and most of them actually succeeded. So I thought, why not give it a try.
I will leave the phone as for it is now and leave it cool down more.
I must say that my oven has also fans in there which make the air circulate more.
OK then. As told - 200 C is really over industrial standarts. Components may be durable and could live after this, some of them not.
Let the board cool down and try again e.g. after an hour.
Have you looked on the components on the board if there is any shortcut?
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OK then. As told - 200 C is really over industrial standarts. Components may be durable and could live after this, some of them not.
Let the board cool down and try again e.g. after an hour.
Have you looked on the components on the board if there is any shortcut?
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yes, I sure did. It looks like brand new. I did left a big sticker with the Type s/n and such on it. That sticker did shrunk down a little bit but that is not bad I think.
After a hour, should I try to bake it again?
No, now I think that its perfectly dry. So no more baking yes?
Also have you pulled all the metal covers on back side? Have you checked ZIF connectors if there is anything inside them? Check them with magnifying glass - with your own eyes you wont see anything.
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No, now I think that its perfectly dry. So no more baking yes?
Also have you pulled all the metal covers on back side? Have you checked ZIF connectors if there is anything inside them? Check them with magnifying glass - with your own eyes you wont see anything.
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Yes, I pulled all the metal covers on both sides. How do I know if there is something wrong with a ZIF connector? The way I see it, it looks pretty good. No weird stuff going on there. I can see all those tiny things with my eyes perfectly sharp ( I got very good eyes) but is the thing you asked even more tiny than that?
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Yes, I pulled all the metal covers on both sides. How do I know if there is something wrong with a ZIF connector? The way I see it, it looks pretty good. No weird stuff going on there. I can see all those tiny things with my eyes perfectly sharp ( I got very good eyes) but is the thing you asked even more tiny than that?
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Dont know if it is tine enough for you eyes, meant those things:
- scratches on pcb wires
- oxidation on/around SMD parts (caps, res, transistors)
- bent (!) or oxidated pins inside ZIFs and other connectors
- darker dots on pcb wires, around components.
- burned pins on e.g. transistors
- tiny cracks on ICs
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Dont know if it is tine enough for you eyes, meant those things:
- scratches on pcb wires
- oxidation on/around SMD parts (caps, res, transistors)
- bent (!) or oxidated pins inside ZIFs and other connectors
- darker dots on pcb wires, around components.
- burned pins on e.g. transistors
- tiny cracks on ICs
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I see dots all around the pcb. All tiny dots. Many on the golden lane which is on the place where the battery goes in. There are no cracks on ICs. No burned pins. No bent or oxidated pins.
Is oxidated the same as those small dots?
Also if I am right, I can fix it by applying circuitry epoxy on it right?
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I see dots all around the pcb. All tiny dots. Many on the golden lane which is on the place where the battery goes in. There are no cracks on ICs. No burned pins. No bent or oxidated pins.
Is oxidated the same as those small dots?
Also if I am right, I can fix it by applying circuitry epoxy on it right?
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No, look somethink like this (on left side on ICs pins):
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Oxidation is mostly thin white film wchich can be cleaned carefully with soft toothbrush.
Many dots re called TPxxx as test poin, they are always gold or copper and will shine. These are OK.
But dont apply any epoxy on it! Even when you find oxidated parts, just clean them with alcohol as described before.
Or even you could post hi-res photo or scan of your board i could look on it.
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No, look somethink like this (on left side on ICs pins):
Oxidation is mostly thin white film wchich can be cleaned carefully with soft toothbrush.
Many dots re called TPxxx as test poin, they are always gold or copper and will shine. These are OK.
But dont apply any epoxy on it! Even when you find oxidated parts, just clean them with alcohol as described before.
Or even you could post hi-res photo or scan of your board i could look on it.
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Okay I will try to scan it
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/x10scan.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/scanx101.jpg/
That's the best I can do If you look carefully on the 2nd picture left below and zoom in, then you can see those dots that I see.
Also the small dots that I got on the motherboard are no where near the size of those dots on that picture! Mine are puny! Very tiny.
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Okay I will try to scan it
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/x10scan.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/scanx101.jpg/
That's the best I can do If you look carefully on the 2nd picture left below and zoom in, then you can see those dots that I see.
Also the small dots that I got on the motherboard are no where near the size of those dots on that picture! Mine are puny! Very tiny.
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Hmm everything that I saw on this (it is not properly focused...) normal board. There are only classical testpoints (some covered with isolating color) and pins that are seen form BGA chips from other side. That is all normal. But must say that this unsharpened photo cannot show so much....
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Hmm everything that I saw on this (it is not properly focused...) normal board. There are only classical testpoints (some covered with isolating color) and pins that are seen form BGA chips from other side. That is all normal. But must say that this unsharpened photo cannot show so much....
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That's the sharpest I can get T_T My photo camera is rubbish. My other cellphone which had a superb camera is dead, my brothers phone's camera could not sharpen the picture enough
http://imageshack.us/f/535/scanx101.jpg/
Look at the point where I drew a black arrow. Download the picture and zoom in to it. You will see some 'puts' in the golden contact.
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That's the sharpest I can get T_T My photo camera is rubbish. My other cellphone which had a superb camera is dead, my brothers phone's camera could not sharpen the picture enough
http://imageshack.us/f/535/scanx101.jpg/
Look at the point where I drew a black arrow. Download the picture and zoom in to it. You will see some 'puts' in the golden contact.
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See it - its the two antenna contact pins - there might be a little darker dot on contact area on gold pads - its just grazed a little - if you can see the metal around its ok. But this couldnt be problem, only if you will have problem with gsm signal.
However dont know it is just a unsharpened but interested with another contacts on you motherboard - are attached pins looking like this one? Photo is also from X10i. Speaking about them on the right ones, and check wires and oxidation around them.
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See it - its the two antenna contact pins - there might be a little darker dot on contact area on gold pads - its just grazed a little - if you can see the metal around its ok. But this couldnt be problem, only if you will have problem with gsm signal.
However dont know it is just a unsharpened but interested with another contacts on you motherboard - are attached pins looking like this one? Photo is also from X10i. Speaking about them on the right ones, and check wires and oxidation around them.
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The one on the right has some dots which I also got on many places. Most of them are on those golden things. And few of them are on the PCB itself.
Look on the golden lanes! It has all small dots on them. My X10 has that aswell!
Also when I plug my X10 to the charger, if I keep my ear to the phone I hear a small pitch sound. I think it's coming from the vibrator.
If you mean that golden lanes very close around the edges of PCB its ok - they are only for grounding/shielding purposes.
In case if the vibrator is emitting pitches, it means that here might be shortcut or bad connection.
To prove this you will need a multimeter or oscilloscope.
And one thing - vibrator might be hitched by dry juice. Are you able to rotate with that little pendulum on it? It should be done very softly with fingers. Try it, NOT WITH FORCE !
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If you mean that golden lanes very close around the edges of PCB its ok - they are only for grounding/shielding purposes.
In case if the vibrator is emitting pitches, it means that here might be shortcut or bad connection.
To prove this you will need a multimeter or oscilloscope.
And one thing - vibrator might be hitched by dry juice. Are you able to rotate with that little pendulum on it? It should be done very softly with fingers. Try it, NOT WITH FORCE !
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Yeah, it rotates very easily! Smooth as butter. There is a mark on my pcb which goes over one of the golden big lane and hits a tiny lane where the battery is. I think that that mark should not be there. Also I got those small dots on those small darker yellow lanes aswell. Is that bad?
Also this friday,I can get my hands on 100% alcohol so I can gently clean every bit of it. That is a good idea right?
Remember that I baked the motherboard of that X10 and that it died?
I baked today my dead Samsung Omnia 2 and it works 100% now. Previously it would not start-up, just a blank black screen. After baking it in the oven @ 200 degrees celcius for 7 minutes it works now.
Still don't know what caused that X10 to die. Sure it got wet in orange juice, so did my Omnia 2 (it swum in Lime water for 20minutes).
I did notice a scratch on the motherboard of the X10. It's located at the right top corner.
Anyone enjoy tinkering and working on hardware that would enjoy having a side job opening or dismantling DNA's and maybe a few other devices?
I'm looking for a partner in a project that has experience on the hardware side of electronics and spends some time on the forums or surfing the net.
If this is something you might be interested in let me know. I also need someone to source some bricked DNA's.
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Define tinkering , I have changed screens on my HD2 from one to the other on many occasions . So Im interested but I dont know if that is enough to help you out ?
same here, I have opened and replaced screens on iphone 4 and 4s. taken apart and brought back to life an o2 atom, opened a one x to replace the screen and did it.
I have had my DNAs apart. But mostly only opened up phones with removable batterys. Honestly the hardest part is getting the shielding off this phone without mangling it.
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It's going to be a learning process I'm not looking for a DNA take apart expert, mostly I need someone interested in participating that's patient, and doesn't get halfway through a tear down then drive to the nearest lake and dump the parts in the water because of frustration.
The kind of person that might take apart the family's microwave to see what's inside (or buy an ATM machine to see how they work lol). Someone who enjoys mechanical stuff and can stay level headed even if they hit a bump in the road, take a breather then out think that stripped screw by making it a flathead with a dremel tool so you can unscrew it and replace it.
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It's going to be a learning process I'm not looking for a DNA take apart expert, mostly I need someone interested in participating that's patient, and doesn't get halfway through a tear down then drive to the nearest lake and dump the parts in the water because of frustration.
The kind of person that might take apart the family's microwave to see what's inside (or buy an ATM machine to see how they work lol). Someone who enjoys mechanical stuff and can stay level headed even if they hit a bump in the road, take a breather then out think that stripped screw by making it a flathead with a dremel tool so you can unscrew it and replace it.
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Totally up my alley, but I just simply don't have the time these days. Wish I could help, but I just can't.
Hit me up on gtalk if ur still looking for someone. I've taken apart and replaced screens, charging ports, and cameras on a few different model phones, mainly HTC. I've even learned the art of soldering those tiny little solderjoints on some phones
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I am game
I've replaced the battery in my razr with the extended battery and replaced the digitizer in my og droid
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eriknors said:
Hit me up on gtalk if ur still looking for someone. I've taken apart and replaced screens, charging ports, and cameras on a few different model phones, mainly HTC. I've even learned the art of soldering those tiny little solderjoints on some phones
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Best thing is to use solder paste imo
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Excellent thanks guys that's exactly what I'm looking for. I will be contacting you as I get into it and time permits.
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I have had my DNAs apart...
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Thank you! :good:
Well, Im a EE.. and I didn't fall into this profession on accident.
Took the DNA apart a few days after I got it. It really IS water proof!
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Dell Duo touch screen tablet/laptop. It was slow and I wanted to see if I could change the processor. Its soldered to the board, not a problem
My Keurig Coffe Pot. It was not filling the cup as fast as I wanted it too, a little tweak to the pressure tank fixed that.
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I got bored and built a computer case out of some Priority Mail shipping boxes. I wonder if I can still ship this..
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My workstation at the Lab. I come here to relax and build things. (Well.. I get paid too, so thats a plus)
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Sometimes I bring my work home with me.. okay, more like -always-. My wife can get irritated with me...
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A circuit board I designed to do 3d Infrared Proximity sensing. 4 sensors on the underside do the detection.
The PCB diagram of the board above. Designed with PCB artist.
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These are just a few of the things I mess around with. In all cases above, the things still worked when I was done "tweaking" them. Thats not always the case lol. Sometimes my curiosity has broken stuff, but not that often.
However, I don't only take apart electronics. When I bought my house, I didn't like my bathroom one saturday, So I removed it, the walls, the floor, the ceiling.. and built a bigger one with a skylight, jet tub, tile floor, walk in shower.. I found out later that I guess your supposed to have a permit to do stuff like that? lol.. oh well. Sold the house and nobody asked questions.. shhh!!
I have also rebuilt the engine in my 2004 Sport Trac. It sucked a valve into the #1 cylinder and shattered the piston. Pulled it, disassembled the entire motor, replaced the piston, crank, connecting rod, timing gears/chain, intake manifold.. then put it all back together in about 4 days. Alone in my dads garage (I don't have a garage.. sigh) last December. Works like a champ and only cost me 300 bucks to do!
I'm a tinkerer turned professional.. a professional tinkerer? lol. To me, all things work the same.. if you can take apart a microwave, you can disassemble yard sprinkler system, or rebuild a transmission. Everything comes apart, and everything can be put back together.. doesn't matter what it is.
So what are you workin on?
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Well, Im a EE.. and I didn't fall into this profession on accident....
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Dude, that is awesome!
I would have loved to pursue a career such as that. The most tinkering I do is car stuffs and little gadget repairs here and there. Maybe one day...
Serenity, that's pretty awesome. But electronic trannies to me are meant for professionals. I used to hate rebuilding the Allison 4L80E trannies in hmmwv's.
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Now you guys have my attention. When I was 14 I got a 1968 Chevy pickup that was supposed to be a rat rod style cheap daily driver hotrod.
Within 3 months it had turned into a frame off restoration project/show truck/daily driver/built for the hot rod power tour as well.
While working on that Dad and I got into drag racing and built a 91 Camaro drag car.
Fuel injection is what first got me into technology. I was into mechanical things but computers kind of scared me because of the unknown. And this was way before smart phones and tablets and such so tech wasn't part of popular trends.
I decided I couldnt judge computers based on not knowing them, so I decided to take one apart. I was pleasantly surprised to learn it was just like building a racing engine or designing custom suspensions. And here I am
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And here I am
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this is me, no where on earth I'd rather be
PS:-sorry for the OT
Okay saw the post and wondered... how far you guys got with taking the DNA's apart?
I'm in the process of replacing the screen with digitizer. Well this was the plan and now I have taken off the motherboard, battery, charging and the camera portion according to the video from etrader.
It seems I have to get the LCD and digitzer away from the actual frame, but that is nowhere mentioned or shown and I don't really know where to start (prying or not ... )
Attached 2 pics... I really need help, my wife is driving my crazy complain about my old trust Droid X ... even so it was her in the first place breaking the DNA.
Thanks Jens
I happen to have a disassembled DNA on my desk. I'll take look in the morning and get back to you
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The Allison and 4L80E are two entirely different transmissions....Just sayin'
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Okay saw the post and wondered... how far you guys got with taking the DNA's apart?
I'm in the process of replacing the screen with digitizer. Well this was the plan and now I have taken off the motherboard, battery, charging and the camera portion according to the video from etrader.
It seems I have to get the LCD and digitzer away from the actual frame, but that is nowhere mentioned or shown and I don't really know where to start (prying or not ... )
Attached 2 pics... I really need help, my wife is driving my crazy complain about my old trust Droid X ... even so it was her in the first place breaking the DNA.
Thanks Jens
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Heat plus light pry tool around midframe then pull the ribbons through the midframe and clean up old glass
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Ok so i know people have started receiving there z2's. pics have been posted, videos linked etc. but i havent seen a z2 underwater yet. This is literally the first thing im gonna do...... if it does break id rather do it before setting it all up lol. So if you've dunked your z2 post pics/videos here.....
I dont wanna be the first one
numskull said:
Ok so i know people have started receiving there z2's. pics have been posted, videos linked etc. but i havent seen a z2 underwater yet. This is literally the first thing im gonna do...... if it does break id rather do it before setting it all up lol. So if you've dunked your z2 post pics/videos here.....
I dont wanna be the first one
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I have just tried recording my phone being dunked in water, but as soon as it went in the water the camera closed, and as its just a jug of water im testing it in, my hands are too big to go in and turn the camera back on.
at least i know its water tight xD
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I have just tried recording my phone being dunked in water, but as soon as it went in the water the camera closed, and as its just a jug of water im testing it in, my hands are too big to go in and turn the camera back on.
at least i know its water tight xD
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I wont have issues fitting my hands in t turn camera back on..... it going in my mates fishtank lol
Just one little advise, if I may...
Don't sink your new Z2 into aquarium, especially not into aquarium with a sea water - your camera will be destroyed.. (not literally but it'll become unusable).
There's many Z1 users who reported bad things after such experiment.
Watter sometimes find passage and you got foggy lens (inside of device) you can't get nothing about it because you can't open it (you actually can but I wouldn't advise that)...
So...use waterproof for rain and accidentally water contact - I have my Z1 from the beginning and never tried to shoot pict in swimming pool... - I just don't trust them -
Z5 will, probably, have better technology/sealings.
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Just one little advise, if I may...
Don't sink your new Z2 into aquarium, especially not into aquarium with a sea water - your camera will be destroyed.. (not literally but it'll become unusable).
There's many Z1 users who reported bad things after such experiment.
Watter sometimes find passage and you got foggy lens (inside of device) you can't get nothing about it because you can't open it (you actually can but I wouldn't advise that)...
So...use waterproof for rain and accidentally water contact - I have my Z1 from the beginning and never tried to shoot pict in swimming pool... - I just don't trust them -
Z5 will, probably, have better technology/sealings.
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you know what mate, i dont trust it either lol, it aint going in saltwater and i am actually expecting it to break, if it develops a fault it will be going straight back but i shall skip both phones4u and vodafone and be sending it back to sony. What you mean use waterproof for the rain???? i use my galaxy note (not waterproof) if its raining and its fine..... Z2 is rated ip58, if water gets in anywhere on its first day out the box then its faulty, end of.
numskull said:
Ok so i know people have started receiving there z2's. pics have been posted, videos linked etc. but i havent seen a z2 underwater yet. This is literally the first thing im gonna do...... if it does break id rather do it before setting it all up lol. So if you've dunked your z2 post pics/videos here.....
I dont wanna be the first one
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you know what mate, i dont trust it either lol, it aint going in saltwater and i am actually expecting it to break, if it develops a fault it will be going straight back but i shall skip both phones4u and vodafone and be sending it back to sony. What you mean use waterproof for the rain???? i use my galaxy note (not waterproof) if its raining and its fine..... Z2 is rated ip58, if water gets in anywhere on its first day out the box then its faulty, end of.
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Just make sure that you record yourself on another device to prove you didnt leave any of the flaps open
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Just make sure that you record yourself on another device to prove you didnt leave any of the flaps open
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i will be using my note to record the whole thing, plan on merging bits of it with the vid from z2 but will keep the vids as proof.
Exactly...they will tell you your flaps were opened
No, really...I'm cleaning my Z1 wuth water, I just put it in a sink and never had any problems...
I just don't believe it would stayed fully functional after underwater photoshooting
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Exactly...they will tell you your flaps were opened
No, really...I'm cleaning my Z1 wuth water, I just put it in a sink and never had any problems...
I just don't believe it would stayed fully functional after underwater photoshooting
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I have my doubts about it staying fully functional afterwards as well, but apparently it can be done and it will be fine..... so i just cant resist, they'll sure as hell know about it if it breaks tho, i'll complain to every damn person employed by sony, from the ceo to the janitor lol
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I have my doubts about it staying fully functional afterwards as well, but apparently it can be done and it will be fine..... so i just cant resist, they'll sure as hell know about it if it breaks tho, i'll complain to every damn person employed by sony, from the ceo to the janitor lol
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Haha...
Well I'm sure there are devices that were under the water and survive but when I pay 1000$ for something I try not to do experiments with it...
I saw only few underwater pictures (Z/Z1) so I guess I'm not the only one who thinks like that...
But I totally understand you and if device, like Z1/Z2 have so many sealings/protection rubbers it should bear up some torture
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Haha...
Well I'm sure there are devices that were under the water and survive but when I pay 1000$ for something I try not to do experiments with it...
I saw only few underwater pictures (Z/Z1) so I guess I'm not the only one who thinks like that...
But I totally understand you and if device, like Z1/Z2 have so many sealings/protection rubbers it should bear up some torture
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lol im kinda the opposite, when i spend that much on something i wanna know that it does what it claims, to be honest i will probably never use the phone underwater again, but at least i'll worry less when im playing on my phone in the bath
I have a waterproof camera and a Nokia 1020. Nokia is great when on holiday and not wet, but wet days at the beach or pool were nerve racking as I always had to keep an eye on my phone with the towels and my camera never was as good at taking pics. Few weeks ago I got a Z1 Compact for wet days. Tested it at home for water proofing and all good. Great camera. Just need to set the volume button as the shutter for underwater pics as screen is unresponsive and camera button hard to use. Even took it to the waterpark with no issues.
Only problem was the screen felt too small so I got the Z2 thinking I'd give the Z1C to the wife. Got it yesterday and loved it. Based on good experience with the Z1C, I just expected waterproofing to be as reliable. After setting it up, I finally had a chance to test it by dipping into a pitcher of water and tested the camera. Camera button so much better than Z1 and all seemed to work. Suddenly I see bubbles, camera shuts off, flap warning pops up (flaps were completely closed) and phone dies. Took it out immediately and water is running out of microphone holes at bottom and apparently from around the frame. What a let down! Just hoping Sony or vendor are cool about a replacement. Had it all of 2 days. Got wet in 15 cm water and died although all flaps completely closed.
Still, compared to Z1 Compact, the body stiffness and frame flush with the glass feel far more flimsy on the Z2. Now that its got water in it, I can almost squeeze it and water seems to leak from around the aluminum frame. Contemplating sticking with the Z1 Compact for a year until tech improves if I can get my money back. Otherwise might try the SGS5. Really bummed as I loved the Z2, but I don't need just another smartphone, I need one that has a good camera and can survive the pool.
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I have a waterproof camera and a Nokia 1020. Nokia is great when on holiday and not wet, but wet days at the beach or pool were nerve racking as I always had to keep an eye on my phone with the towels and my camera never was as good at taking pics. Few weeks ago I got a Z1 Compact for wet days. Tested it at home for water proofing and all good. Great camera. Just need to set the volume button as the shutter for underwater pics as screen is unresponsive and camera button hard to use. Even took it to the waterpark with no issues.
Only problem was the screen felt too small so I got the Z2 thinking I'd give the Z1C to the wife. Got it yesterday and loved it. Based on good experience with the Z1C, I just expected waterproofing to be as reliable. After setting it up, I finally had a chance to test it by dipping into a pitcher of water and tested the camera. Camera button so much better than Z1 and all seemed to work. Suddenly I see bubbles, camera shuts off, flap warning pops up (flaps were completely closed) and phone dies. Took it out immediately and water is running out of microphone holes at bottom and apparently from around the frame. What a let down! Just hoping Sony or vendor are cool about a replacement. Had it all of 2 days. Got wet in 15 cm water and died although all flaps completely closed.
Still, compared to Z1 Compact, the body stiffness and frame flush with the glass feel far more flimsy on the Z2. Now that its got water in it, I can almost squeeze it and water seems to leak from around the aluminum frame. Contemplating sticking with the Z1 Compact for a year until tech improves if I can get my money back. Otherwise might try the SGS5. Really bummed as I loved the Z2, but I don't need just another smartphone, I need one that has a good camera and can survive the pool.
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Lol, no need to panick, you obviousy got a defective phone, z2 is just as if not more water resistant as previous phones.
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Personally I can't understand why some are so eager to dunk it in water just to test the water proofing, I mean if you have a crash proof car you ain't gonna crash it into a wall to test it.
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Personally I can't understand why some are so eager to dunk it in water just to test the water proofing, I mean if you have a crash proof car you ain't gonna crash it into a wall to test it.
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Well, if you buy the phone to be able to use it in the water, it's better to test it out before you're in a situation where you need the phone and it just dies on you. Of course, if you never intend to get the thing wet, obviously you have no need to test this feature.
Me and @waynekirby made a little video with both our z2's video is taken with Xperia T
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Excuse my language
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BanziBaby said:
Personally I can't understand why some are so eager to dunk it in water just to test the water proofing, I mean if you have a crash proof car you ain't gonna crash it into a wall to test it.
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Actually im not normal...... if i bought a car that was advertised as not crumpling in a collision, yes i most definately would drive it into a brick wall (not too fast tho, im assuming id still be able to be catapulted through the windscreen lol)
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Actually im not normal...... if i bought a car that was advertised as not crumpling in a collision, yes i most definately would drive it into a brick wall (not too fast tho, im assuming id still be able to be catapulted through the windscreen lol)
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haha, as would i my kamikaze brother..
Well, it got it's first water test today, and . . . well it passed!
I was on the golf course using the phone as a golf GPS when it threw it down and everything got drenched. The phone has survived, but was more or less unusable when the screen was wet. Several rain drops seemed to act as finger presses, launching random programs, which was quite annoying as I had to keep drying the phone to get back to the GPS screen. But I suppose the main thing was that the phone survived the deluge
Video of Z2 diving into a lake
Here's my Z2 taking a dive into a Lake for a few seconds.
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Step 1: watch any LG G5 teardown video and seperate the glass screen with mobo out of the metal casing.
step 2: on the right side of mobo under the black circle fabric (below the fabric DO NOT REMOVE FABRIC JUST LOOK UNDER IN) YOU WILL SEE 3 little button nubs.
each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing.
you can see an image of it here imgur. com /G76xf8N remove spaces please.
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Can confirm this worked for me, here's an album if y'all want different angles on the phone
Confirmed as working for me too. I've done this mod on 3 phones already, all are a success. LG is horrible... Releasing phones with such blatant defects.
It will stop working after few days, cuz those are volume pins, has nothing to do with gps
If thats the real fix and the battery touches it, I'm almost certain that replacing batteries is causing this. It explains why many are reporting the issue coming back overtime when warranty replacing. My replacement is already getting worse GPS signal
Actually, makes sense these buttons are related to the volume buttons... There are multiple leads on the board connecting to the back of the case directly though, making me think that LG chose to use the "metal backing" as a GPS antenna. I've straightened multiple leads on the board which come in direct contact with the case itself and other elements just in case, but I have a feeling this will be an issue that plagues us G5 users until a hardware revision is done by LG...
Time to shop for another phone. What a bad investment this was...
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wanna hear my story ? Bought S7 01.04.2016, 04.04.2016 was 1st time on warranty service cuz water in front cam, 2nd time 12.06 broke again same problem, last week 3rd time on warranty SAME PROBLEM, now I bought lg g5 with ****ed up GPS , VERY VERY nice.... looks like I'll give a shot to HTC 10 :/
if those 3 pins are gps antena and I dont think so, I'll just solder something to the backplace
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karendar
wanna hear my story ? Bought S7 01.04.2016, 04.04.2016 was 1st time on warranty service cuz water in front cam, 2nd time 12.06 broke again same problem, last week 3rd time on warranty SAME PROBLEM, now I bought lg g5 with ****ed up GPS , VERY VERY nice.... looks like I'll give a shot to HTC 10 :/
if those 3 pins are gps antena and I dont think so, I'll just solder something to the backplace
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Horrible how us early adopters get rimmed...
To be honest, I think those three leads do nothing but placebo after looking at the board... But notice all the leads across the board which connect to the case itself. I think those would be a better spot for GPS and phone antennas... Wish someone had a technical diagram for us.
As for the HTC 10, I've heard good things... Just not sure I'll be able to sell this phone to buy one.
Signal still holding strong today... Getting massive signal with no drops.
Is this problem still present in current versions? Or was it fixed? I can't believe LG still sells this phone with GPS not working? I get a G5 the next days, how can I check if mine has this issue too?
How ? I don' know dude, maybe, but just MAYBE you could install gps status and check it.........
I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
"each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing. "
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
Why did no one develop a clever, simple and working mod so far? Why not just soldering a bit of liquid silver on the three contacts, with a bit of metal plate on top to make it 1-2mm higher? Or just even more simple: Do it on the backplate contacts.
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I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
"each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing. "
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
Why did no one develop a clever, simple and working mod so far? Why not just soldering a bit of liquid silver on the three contacts, with a bit of metal plate on top to make it 1-2mm higher? Or just even more simple: Do it on the backplate contacts.
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To me, personally, I don't mind being a little bit critical, but with this response I think you are to direct and judgemental towards the topic starter. Topic starter has given his best to share his practice. And I agree with you this one will probably not last, but let's keep it friendly.
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mkdr said:
I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
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your answer is total garbage. ever seen a car that scraped on the ground because the shock absorbers failed due to temperature and high pressure just by existing?
unless you bend them over and over the method will most likely last for many years. you dont have a lot of forces acting on it.
if you make a fixed connection like soldering, the small dynamic forces would eventually weaken the material and it would break after some time. think before insulting somebody's idea
i don't think those are GPS antenna contacts.. as i used to observe that gps antennas usually have 1 or 2 contacts.. never 3! but they could do..
don't know if you read my topic about same issue and another "fix"..
at the moment we have 2 confirmed informations:
1) if you isolate detachable module pin connector you'll get no gps at all
2) gps will work good until you'll detach and reattach battery couple times.
this could explain why LG released this terminal which definitively passes any factory test! ...holy real day-use tests!
albenex said:
i don't think those are GPS antenna contacts.. as i used to observe that gps antennas usually have 1 or 2 contacts.. never 3!
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we have 3 different gps systems on our phone so 3 makes sense. BDS (beidou) is only to be found on the newest hardware
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we have 3 different gps systems on our phone so 3 makes sense. BDS (beidou) is only to be found on the newest hardware
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thanks, i've also tried this fix and seems working.. but indeed volume rockers are nearby and no other connectors were found.. mistery grows up..
this fix save me, thanks for it, now the gps works fine
lolmensch said:
your answer is total garbage. ever seen a car that scraped on the ground because the shock absorbers failed due to temperature and high pressure just by existing?
unless you bend them over and over the method will most likely last for many years. you dont have a lot of forces acting on it.
if you make a fixed connection like soldering, the small dynamic forces would eventually weaken the material and it would break after some time. think before insulting somebody's idea
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You can read, right?
1. look at the link. lots of people already claimed the """mod""" lasted about 2-5 days, then the problem came back.
2. what are you talking about!? Those contacts between the board and the backplate are based up on pressure. The mod just says "try to bend them upwards a bit". THIS MEANS IT WILL TOTALLY GO IN ITS BASE POSITION AGAIN REALLY SOON. It can't work.
3. back to, if you can read. Where did I say soldering it? Right, no where. I said put some layers of conducting anything on the backplates contacts to grow its height.
Not enough forces acting on them? Seriously? So to your logic, this means this problem wouldn't occur in the first place. Pressing with your fingers on the cover at that very place mostly is enough to push them back every time a little bit., also because they're at the very edge of the cover.