so i cannot post pictures because im a new member.
Step 1: watch any LG G5 teardown video and seperate the glass screen with mobo out of the metal casing.
step 2: on the right side of mobo under the black circle fabric (below the fabric DO NOT REMOVE FABRIC JUST LOOK UNDER IN) YOU WILL SEE 3 little button nubs.
each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing.
you can see an image of it here imgur. com /G76xf8N remove spaces please.
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Can confirm this worked for me, here's an album if y'all want different angles on the phone
Confirmed as working for me too. I've done this mod on 3 phones already, all are a success. LG is horrible... Releasing phones with such blatant defects.
It will stop working after few days, cuz those are volume pins, has nothing to do with gps
If thats the real fix and the battery touches it, I'm almost certain that replacing batteries is causing this. It explains why many are reporting the issue coming back overtime when warranty replacing. My replacement is already getting worse GPS signal
Actually, makes sense these buttons are related to the volume buttons... There are multiple leads on the board connecting to the back of the case directly though, making me think that LG chose to use the "metal backing" as a GPS antenna. I've straightened multiple leads on the board which come in direct contact with the case itself and other elements just in case, but I have a feeling this will be an issue that plagues us G5 users until a hardware revision is done by LG...
Time to shop for another phone. What a bad investment this was...
karendar
wanna hear my story ? Bought S7 01.04.2016, 04.04.2016 was 1st time on warranty service cuz water in front cam, 2nd time 12.06 broke again same problem, last week 3rd time on warranty SAME PROBLEM, now I bought lg g5 with ****ed up GPS , VERY VERY nice.... looks like I'll give a shot to HTC 10 :/
if those 3 pins are gps antena and I dont think so, I'll just solder something to the backplace
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karendar
wanna hear my story ? Bought S7 01.04.2016, 04.04.2016 was 1st time on warranty service cuz water in front cam, 2nd time 12.06 broke again same problem, last week 3rd time on warranty SAME PROBLEM, now I bought lg g5 with ****ed up GPS , VERY VERY nice.... looks like I'll give a shot to HTC 10 :/
if those 3 pins are gps antena and I dont think so, I'll just solder something to the backplace
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Horrible how us early adopters get rimmed...
To be honest, I think those three leads do nothing but placebo after looking at the board... But notice all the leads across the board which connect to the case itself. I think those would be a better spot for GPS and phone antennas... Wish someone had a technical diagram for us.
As for the HTC 10, I've heard good things... Just not sure I'll be able to sell this phone to buy one.
Signal still holding strong today... Getting massive signal with no drops.
Is this problem still present in current versions? Or was it fixed? I can't believe LG still sells this phone with GPS not working? I get a G5 the next days, how can I check if mine has this issue too?
How ? I don' know dude, maybe, but just MAYBE you could install gps status and check it.........
I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
"each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing. "
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
Why did no one develop a clever, simple and working mod so far? Why not just soldering a bit of liquid silver on the three contacts, with a bit of metal plate on top to make it 1-2mm higher? Or just even more simple: Do it on the backplate contacts.
mkdr said:
I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
"each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing. "
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
Why did no one develop a clever, simple and working mod so far? Why not just soldering a bit of liquid silver on the three contacts, with a bit of metal plate on top to make it 1-2mm higher? Or just even more simple: Do it on the backplate contacts.
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To me, personally, I don't mind being a little bit critical, but with this response I think you are to direct and judgemental towards the topic starter. Topic starter has given his best to share his practice. And I agree with you this one will probably not last, but let's keep it friendly.
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mkdr said:
I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
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your answer is total garbage. ever seen a car that scraped on the ground because the shock absorbers failed due to temperature and high pressure just by existing?
unless you bend them over and over the method will most likely last for many years. you dont have a lot of forces acting on it.
if you make a fixed connection like soldering, the small dynamic forces would eventually weaken the material and it would break after some time. think before insulting somebody's idea
i don't think those are GPS antenna contacts.. as i used to observe that gps antennas usually have 1 or 2 contacts.. never 3! but they could do..
don't know if you read my topic about same issue and another "fix"..
at the moment we have 2 confirmed informations:
1) if you isolate detachable module pin connector you'll get no gps at all
2) gps will work good until you'll detach and reattach battery couple times.
this could explain why LG released this terminal which definitively passes any factory test! ...holy real day-use tests!
albenex said:
i don't think those are GPS antenna contacts.. as i used to observe that gps antennas usually have 1 or 2 contacts.. never 3!
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we have 3 different gps systems on our phone so 3 makes sense. BDS (beidou) is only to be found on the newest hardware
lolmensch said:
we have 3 different gps systems on our phone so 3 makes sense. BDS (beidou) is only to be found on the newest hardware
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thanks, i've also tried this fix and seems working.. but indeed volume rockers are nearby and no other connectors were found.. mistery grows up..
this fix save me, thanks for it, now the gps works fine
lolmensch said:
your answer is total garbage. ever seen a car that scraped on the ground because the shock absorbers failed due to temperature and high pressure just by existing?
unless you bend them over and over the method will most likely last for many years. you dont have a lot of forces acting on it.
if you make a fixed connection like soldering, the small dynamic forces would eventually weaken the material and it would break after some time. think before insulting somebody's idea
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You can read, right?
1. look at the link. lots of people already claimed the """mod""" lasted about 2-5 days, then the problem came back.
2. what are you talking about!? Those contacts between the board and the backplate are based up on pressure. The mod just says "try to bend them upwards a bit". THIS MEANS IT WILL TOTALLY GO IN ITS BASE POSITION AGAIN REALLY SOON. It can't work.
3. back to, if you can read. Where did I say soldering it? Right, no where. I said put some layers of conducting anything on the backplates contacts to grow its height.
Not enough forces acting on them? Seriously? So to your logic, this means this problem wouldn't occur in the first place. Pressing with your fingers on the cover at that very place mostly is enough to push them back every time a little bit., also because they're at the very edge of the cover.
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Going fishing, rogue wave crashed on our boat (huge wave). Everything saturated. USB rusted almost immediately, despite my efforts, limited by being on a saturated boat.
Phone won't charge.
I've tried rice, q tips, alcohol, scraping...
It seems my phone also thinks the headset is plugged in, icon won't go away.
Thoughts on repairs?
Where is the best place to get a new USB part for the t959?
Any ideas are appreciated. Cashing in on any favors that I can...
I found this "charging port"... Guessing that's what I need. My phone is dying now, looked like they don't sell to the public?
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/category-s/6611.htm
Let me say I have experience in this
I have been doing Underwater photography for 25 + years and housing do leak.... and when they do, your Nikon or Video camera is about to be toast....... in short I have had many many episodes of salt water intrusion. Even the least amount will destroy lens coating or cause a micro short on a board or switch ruining a 1000.00 camera or lens.
Here is The Gist of how to fix a salt water episode:
1. if you got salt water on something, Immediately remove the battery 1st thing
2. Disassemble a bit... In this case remove the 7 screws on the back and pop the back plastic with 2 guitar picks
3. Use 90% rubbing alcohol (or better 200 proof moonshine if you can get it)
The drinking alcohol is better at getting the h2o molecules to adhere to the alcohol molecules, but rubbing alcohol is plenty good enough.. Immerse in the alcohol..... Like..... totally under , so you will need a decent volume (ahhh use rubbing alcohol, no reason to waste all the good Redneck Sambuca ingredient)
4. Leave for 30- 60 min minimum ...I have left over night a Nikon body with no ill effects then clean with cloth or paper towel and one of those cute brushes you wife has for makeup (clean no makeup plz)....... to dry, then inspect with a loupe carefully. Once you know there is no discernible damage then you can put in rice over night blow it off with compressed air from a can reassemble and try it out.
The most important thing about salt water is if voltage stays on the device with saltwater it will jack the electronics faster than a fox running out of a hen house.
Hope that helps
That's so surprising to me... I can really just drop it into alcohol? That doesn't cause damage to electronics?
I don't think there is any more water.. so what does alcohol help do?
I did cut my phone off, almost immediately. I was forced to cut it on while out on the boat though. I didn't really know there was an issue then, left it on.
I cleaned the charging port well, left in rice... My phone is basically dead now, using the wifes nexus one now.
anyone know a legit place to buy the charging port?
The alcohol causes the water molecules to attach to the alcohol, which prevents the water from causing damage.............. chemistry........ gotta love it, But without the water the salt can not cause electrolytic reaction thus preventing the corrosive effect. Also most of the circuit boards have conformal coating (usually a urethane type these days) which gives the circuit board a water proofing, but solder joints and other places are not protected.
oka1 said:
The alcohol causes the water molecules to attach to the alcohol, which prevents the water from causing damage.............. chemistry........ gotta love it, But without the water the salt can not cause electrolytic reaction thus preventing the corrosive effect. Also most of the circuit boards have conformal coating (usually a urethane type these days) which gives the circuit board a water proofing, but solder joints and other places are not protected.
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Very well put you've made me proud, if you want to be completely sure you are cleaning the surface completely see if you can get your hands on pure acetone (stuff is in nail polish) it will remove any organic residues that might facilitate corrosion, afterwards a rinse with distilled water could be allowed.
-Cheers
What about mobile tech videos? I'd link but I'm on my phone. Those guys do repairs. Sorry I don't have any expert advice. But if you have to send it off ill make a donation towards the repair bill.
Well, looks like i'm a blackberry user until I can try some of these great suggestions.
I had no idea you could submerge your phone in those liquids.
Once i'm off this island, I'll try and break the phone down and see how bad I am.
Anyone know where I can buy the charging port?
Greggory, Very kind if you to offer that man, not sure I'd feel right accepting that. I'll check their site out. Can you pm me any information about them?
I sent you a pm.
You can sign up as a refurbisher
Phone is completely (COMPLETELY) disassembled.
Corrosion honestly does not seem as bad as I expected.
Off to buy acetone. So I can really just leave the mother board and drive reader in this liquid?? Casey... I trust you, but dang that is scary to me!!
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something else I forgot, if you are in a place where you cannot fix immediately, then Pull battery as fast as you can and then wash in fresh water if nothing else or Jack Daniels
Putting a whole phone full of electronic things in alcohol seems unsafe to me, and since idk anything about this subject it also does seem like the phone would be MORE screwed up if you did that but idk so go ahead.
I'd try and think my way into getting a refurb
alright, completely broken down, acetone on many of the parts (dabbed most)... submerged for a minute or so on the USB/charge port.
Good news: the headset icon has now disappeared, so that's fixed.
Bad news: my vibrant still wont charge.
I think I need to buy a new mother board or charge port. Anyone know the best place to buy one? Going to register on global direct now.
xriderx66 said:
Putting a whole phone full of electronic things in alcohol seems unsafe to me, and since idk anything about this subject it also does seem like the phone would be MORE screwed up if you did that but idk so go ahead.
I'd try and think my way into getting a refurb
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It is just basic Chemistry, understanding compatibility interactions (or reaction is the key) with almost All electronics Alcohol really is pretty benign. De-ionized water is the preferred cleaning agent but then it usually is washed with pure drinking alcohol to make sure there is no remaining water molecules left.
Acetone is pretty safe EXCEPT some of the plastic that the housings are made can be reactive (dissolve from it) to it. So, even though the electronics are safe the housing could possibly lose its shine (become dulled).
BTW, it is this understanding of chemistry (or lack of) that causes so many manufacturing and installation/assembly problems. People change mix designs all the time and forget to inform others of the change thus causing recalls , lawsuits, etc.
Hope you get a new mother board S15274n
^ Just went to T-Mo, they were know help to me.
Called Samsung and they said I still had warranty until OCT (suppose they add 3 months on from the 1 year mark). I am going to take my chances and send them my phone for repair.
I'm not hopeful, but we'll see what I can talk their tech into.
Duuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuude!
I am sorry to hear this on so many levels. I hope Sammy will fix it or replace it for you brotha! You are an invaluable member of this community man, we can't afford to lose you. I am tempted to get you an otter box (not the phone case, but the real thing) in order to keep your electronic devices safe when deep sea fishing or anything else that might get it wet.
Yea we cant loose him he is one of my fave people in community
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Br1cK'd said:
Duuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuuude! Duuuuuuuude!
I am sorry to hear this on so many levels. I hope Sammy will fix it or replace it for you brotha! You are an invaluable member of this community man, we can't afford to lose you. I am tempted to get you an otter box (not the phone case, but the real thing) in order to keep your electronic devices safe when deep sea fishing or anything else that might get it wet.
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appreciate the very kind words. Phone is with UPS now, en route to samsung. I imagine they will easily notice I have opened it, did the gps hardware hack and completely disassembled it... not to mention the corrosion that I did not get off the charging port, haha...
o well, if there is a miracle, they will just send me a refurb and not bug me. The techs are supposed to call if they will not repair it... I'll see if I can talk them into it.
please tell oka1 (casey) how awesome he is.... My man just sent me a phone to use until i can get this all sorted out.
I dont care what anyone says... There is no better community, than this android community... None. Complete strangers helping each other, for nothing other than to help!!
Thank you guys, awesome to be a small part of this.
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please tell oka1 (casey) how awesome he is.... My man just sent me a phone to use until i can get this all sorted out.
I dont care what anyone says... There is no better community, than this android community... None. Complete strangers helping each other, for nothing other than to help!!
Thank you guys, awesome to be a small part of this.
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That is just plain awesome! Also makes me glad I am part of this community.
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I’ve been struggling with why my GPS quit seeing any satellites after the 9.4.2.11 update when I realized something looking at Anand’s teardown:
AnandTech - ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime Teardown
Perhaps the antenna connections are weak or have become slightly corroded. Based on his teardown the contacts are spring type “pogopins” which mate with the opposite face. With that thought in mind I decided to try and flex the tablet ever so slightly to clean the contacts. The idea being that the slight flex would cause the pins to scrape the contact surface rubbing a clean(er) spot.
Before the 9.4.2.11 update I had the typical poor performance from the GPS, getting locks but losing them on the move. I had given up on it [GPS] until this update which touted GPS improvements. After updating and wiping I tested the GPS again, but could not see even one satellite after letting it sit, more than once, for over an hour with Wi-Fi on and off.
I must stress I strongly suggest you do not try this on your tablet for fear of damaging it. I take no responsibly for damage to anyone’s tablet and am only reporting my actions.
After this procedure I am able to see several birds indoors, albeit with weak SNR. This has me convinced that part of the problem is related to these contacts, and may serve to explain some of the weak Wi-Fi reports. It may also help illustrate why only some users are seeing issues, and perhaps why some of the returns are functioning better. These contacts may be more robust in some units or possibly be able to be rectified via service.
I do understand there are other factors related to both the GPS and Wi-Fi, but this appears, at least to me, to be part of the bigger picture.
Please note that the amount of flex I’m talking about is next to nothing, enough to see a change in light bleed around the display, I was afraid to go too far.
*Mods, I'm not sure why this post was deleted before, please PM me if there is a problem with this post. I did not include the link.*
Hi jhovak,
that sounds very interesting and makes me nervous thinking of manipulating a new device. You are brave!
Do you have some pictures of your action?
Thanks.
Cheers,
René.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21489600&postcount=10
You can bypass the pogo pins by connecting a pigtail to the UF.L connector at the chip leadouts, then solder the other end to the antennae's copper pads. It should improve reception.
e.mote,
Looks like you beat me to this I never saw your post, but that's exactly my thoughts. I was able to torque it a bit to get it working again. That maye be what they are doing to get the RMAs reported to work better, "fixed".
motocamp,
Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of the process, but you wouldn't be able to see much, I only deformed the case/screen very slightly. The problem is you may end up popping other solder joints in the process.
jhovak said:
I’ve been struggling with why my GPS quit seeing any satellites after the 9.4.2.11 update when I realized something looking at Anand’s teardown:
AnandTech - ASUS Eee Pad Transformer Prime Teardown
Perhaps the antenna connections are weak or have become slightly corroded. Based on his teardown the contacts are spring type “pogopins” which mate with the opposite face. With that thought in mind I decided to try and flex the tablet ever so slightly to clean the contacts. The idea being that the slight flex would cause the pins to scrape the contact surface rubbing a clean(er) spot.
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I agree. Makes perfect sense to me.
Everyone has the same aluminum back, so you would expect the same results across the board (barring weather and atmospheric conditions) for all Primes. There has to be another piece to the puzzle of bad GPS performance when some user's report GPS working and getting locks and other user's reports no GPS active with no satellites seen and no locks.
Thanks e.mote for your explanation of the antena contacts. I think you hit the cause of the GPS problem. Hopefully ASUS saw your post and address this prioblem so it does not occur on their the planned 700 series.
Cheers
I forwarded all this info to Gary in a pm just recently. including details, link to that thread e.mote posted in and that teardown showing pogo pins. hopefully he will get it soon and pass info to engineers.
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pardon my lack of GPS knowledge but what is considered good or bad when comparing GPS in general? This is my prime outside earlier but there were fluctuations
I am a bit more skeptical about the hardware pins as a sole cause. Reason:
I had pretty decent GPS performance until this last update which totally killed my GPS performance. This suggests to me that there is a firmware/driver type component to at least some people's problems. The same update did correct other people's problems. So perhaps there are some slight differences in the GPS chips that the firmware is not playing nice with or accounting for?
I can confirm this at least partially works. I tried to drive home using GPS test the other day from work and could hardly get a lock especially at high speeds. I saw this and did a number of squeezes aroung the area of the GPS connector and had a significant change.
Drove home with GPS test today and I hardly ever saw it not locked, even going at 70mph, though it would go between 2 and 8 locked sats or so. Halfway through the drive I opened google maps. It took 10-15 seconds to lock, but then I watched my blue arrow follow the road exactly almost the entire way home. It only lost lock when I was stopped under an overpass at a stop light.
To be clear the signal strength is not that of my phone, but at least it's working now.
Have you seen the new evidence found? It was found out that Original Transformer actually uses the soldered type connection E.mote described. I was gonna start a thread but no use as this one is perfect for the new info.
FIRST here is the quote n pics from e.mote of the current Prime type of connection
e.mote said:
From looking at the Prime teardown, your wifi loss may be due to a loose connection. Instead of running a pigtail directly from the chip lead-out to the antenna, the Prime uses spring-loaded pogo pins (1st pic) as intermediate connectors.
Second pic shows the pogo pins for the main wifi and GPS antennae. The spring-loaded pins are pressed against the copper pads of the respective antenna (3rd pic). Suffice it to say, this isn't the most secure way to connect the antennae.
Aside from possible broken or intermittent connection, it also looks like a high-loss connection, and could contribute to attenuated signal reception. My guess is that this may be the main culprit of wifi/GPS woes, with the metal shell being a contributing factor.
The 4th pic below is a U.FL connector that's normally used for antenna pigtails. The lip has an outer overhang for a secure connection.
My guess is that the tablet was bumped and something shifted a bit, breaking the antenna connection.
This is FYI only, as the unit isn't user-serviceable. It does look like a simple fix, but you'd have to open the unit. Edit: You can try smacking the top edge of the tablet a few times and see if it will jar back into place. Worth a try.
Pogo pins used as intermediate connectors for wifi & GPS antennae
The two pogo pins for main wifi and GPS. The spring-loaded heads are pressed against the antennae's pads to make the connection.
The main wifi & GPS antenna, with copper pads to connect to the pins
U.FL connector, normally used for antenna connection
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NOW here is the Original Prime teardown and type of connection
http://m.techrepublic.com/photos/cr...-transformer-tf101/6270147?seq=53#photo-frame
OG Transformer teardown pix
NOW HERE IS THE KICKER
clenz said:
that GPS/Wifi connection looks like a soldered wire and not pogo pin to me!
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WHO said copy n paste n select text doesn't work well on the Prime? Lol I did this all from the Prime itself from various threads.
Extremely interesting. Im definitely returning my GPS-less prime now. Smh
G-Tab 10.1 Wi-Fi antenna connection...
The Wi-Fi chip's on the reverse side of the PCB.
Wi-Fi/BT/FM radio combo chip is in the upper right.
Damn, I thought they used pogopins for just the GPS. Now I just found out they use them for the Wifi too! OUCH! Bad idea. A soldered wire would have been %100 much better, but I'm so afraid now to return my tablet to Asus from hearing the horror stories.
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Damn, I thought they used pogopins for just the GPS. Now I just found out they use them for the Wifi too! OUCH! Bad idea. A soldered wire would have been %100 much better, but I'm so afraid now to return my tablet to Asus from hearing the horror stories.
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I know right...lol ya damned if you do, damned if you don't ...
Just got PM a lil while ago from Gary n response to the thread n possible pogo pin issue. He said this is something the Engineers are looking very closely at on units being returned to be looked at or repaired. SO things are moving right along. FOUND OUT ALSO my serial number that starts with BCOKA is actually from an early batch that I guess had the older hardware. Engineer or Service person supposed to call within next 48hrs. They are going down the list of people that Gary got serial number, email, and phone number info from. I guess it must be a big list...lmao
SO if I do have to send it in, then they will be adding the new hardware it and hopefully changing those pogo pin connections to soldered ones..lol
Ill know more details once I get their phone call. If I do have to send in, I hope they don't wipe everything as I have around 150-200 apps n games. Things customized n all that. Ill take the new hardware though n hopefully won't go thru the horror stories I've been hearing about on returns. OR ill like it better if they just sent me a brand new tablet with the latest n greatest hardware changes on it then I send mines to them. So it'll give me time to transfer things to new device if need be.
I HAVE AN APP on my Ipad called applist that will list every app you have installed and allow you to email the list to yourself. Does android have anything like this?
Wow. I think we can all agree that Asus dropped the ball in so many areas with the TF201. Who the hell wants to put up with this nonsense???
If only Motorola would build a tablet with a docking clamshell keyboard they could probably take 80% of would be Transformer customers. I'd be first in line.
But what could be the reason ASUS changed to use this pogo pin?
Weight? Cost? ... Sabotage? ... I simly dont understand the engineering thought of it.
racerex said:
Wow. I think we can all agree that Asus dropped the ball in so many areas with the TF201. Who the hell wants to put up with this nonsense???
If only Motorola would build a tablet with a docking clamshell keyboard they could probably take 80% of would be Transformer customers. I'd be first in line.
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It would take alot more than that for Motorola to come up n take Asus customers. The xoom, first HC tablet, was a complete flop. Plus Motorola known for locking their systems down, at least initially. MOTOROLA IS NOT too popular of a brand these days, at least tablet wise.
demandarin said:
Just got PM a lil while ago from Gary n response to the thread n possible pogo pin issue. He said this is something the Engineers are looking very closely at on units being returned to be looked at or repaired. SO things are moving right along. FOUND OUT ALSO my serial number that starts with BCOKA is actually from an early batch that I guess had the older hardware. Engineer or Service person supposed to call within next 48hrs. They are going down the list of people that Gary got serial number, email, and phone number info from. I guess it must be a big list...lmao
SO if I do have to send it in, then they will be adding the new hardware it and hopefully changing those pogo pin connections to soldered ones..lol
Ill know more details once I get their phone call. If I do have to send in, I hope they don't wipe everything as I have around 150-200 apps n games. Things customized n all that. Ill take the new hardware though n hopefully won't go thru the horror stories I've been hearing about on returns. OR ill like it better if they just sent me a brand new tablet with the latest n greatest hardware changes on it then I send mines to them. So it'll give me time to transfer things to new device if need be.
I HAVE AN APP on my Ipad called applist that will list every app you have installed and allow you to email the list to yourself. Does android have anything like this?
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Good to know BCOKA is from an older batch, have such a unit as well and very crappy GPS and also suffer from mediocre wifi combined with bluetooth degradation.
Also contacted Gary and will keep an eye out for any developments (live in EUrope though).
The majority of Prime users don't root or flash their tablets. Maybe the majority on this site but not the majority of the total users. So I doubt that will dictate the winners in this market.
Secondly, you can't debate that Motorola's hardware prowess is vastly superior to Asus. And definitely good enough not to pull these bone head mistakes that Asus keeps rolling out one after another.
The Xoom wasn't the sexiest by any means but it was solid as a rock functionality wise. Now with the Xyboard and their follow on products improving in the looks department I really do think they could take would-be Transformer customers if they would just offer a keyboard dock.
And if you're wondering the reason I'm not getting a Galaxy tablet, the reason is because their RF electronic know-how is not too much better that Asus's. I gotta say though that at least Samsung had the intelligence not to seal their RF electronics in a Faraday cage. LOL.
The LG G Watch have issue with contacts corrosion and LG released a fix for it (the voltage on the contacts should be turned off when the watches are out of charging crandle)
But how I can detect if the patch is applied and if not, how I can apply it? I bought the watches about 2 weeks ago and I see that one contact is darker as others, when I check system update it says that I'm on newest version.
Thanks.
I'd like to know that too.
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Hm, I have burned my hand and now I measured the contacts and there is voltage about 1.75V when watches are on the desk, dispay is off.
System reports up to date
Can somebody tell which version of software has in the watches?
libb said:
Hm, I have burned my hand and now I measured the contacts and there is voltage about 1.75V when watches are on the desk, dispay is off.
System reports up to date
Can somebody tell which version of software has in the watches?
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Mine is on Software Version 4.4W.1 Build KGW42Q, however I have not checked the voltages...
I'll post my voltage results in a few minutes....
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So apparently the update did not took care of the pin corrosion issue after all...
Or is there a newer build?
I too am getting corrosion and I actually received my G Watch on the the week after the update went out to prevent the corrosion.
I didn't have any issues until the watch updated for a 2nd time (the first was when it booted), which was a couple weeks ago.
I'm not too troubled since my Moto 360 should be here tomorrow, but someone needs to address the damage that is being caused and provide something to those affected. I'm sure the black version of the watch doesn't look nearly as bad as the white version (which is the one I have).
If I remember to do so, I'll snap a few photos later on and share them here.
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I too am getting corrosion and I actually received my G Watch on the the week after the update went out to prevent the corrosion.
I didn't have any issues until the watch updated for a 2nd time (the first was when it booted), which was a couple weeks ago.
I'm not too troubled since my Moto 360 should be here tomorrow, but someone needs to address the damage that is being caused and provide something to those affected. I'm sure the black version of the watch doesn't look nearly as bad as the white version (which is the one I have).
If I remember to do so, I'll snap a few photos later on and share them here.
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On my white one (see photo above) I don't see any corrosion per se, however I can see the second pin from the top with a different (lighter) color. Is that the kind of problem you are having?
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On my white one (see photo above) I don't see any corrosion per se, however I can see the second pin from the top with a different (lighter) color. Is that the kind of problem you are having?
Cheers!
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Mind started out like yours, but over the weekend I began to notice a build up of corrosion around the base of the pin. You can see the discoloration on the white pretty easily and this photo was taken after I scraped away much more brown corrosion from the sides of the pin.
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Mind started out like yours, but over the weekend I began to notice a build up of corrosion around the base of the pin. You can see the discoloration on the white pretty easily and this photo was taken after I scraped away much more brown corrosion from the sides of the pin.
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Dammit, I didn't notice the corrosion buildup, mine have lots between the pins too!
How did you manage to scrape it off? Toothbrush? Plain water?
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Dammit, I didn't notice the corrosion buildup, mine have lots between the pins too!
How did you manage to scrape it off? Toothbrush? Plain water?
Cheers!
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Had a sharp thin piece of plastic sitting around. I'd just avoid stuff that is harder or to sharp that it damages the plastic. I really hope the next update re-fixes this issue. Otherwise it'll just keep getting worse over time.
My watches. Already packed and I will return it to Amazon. But what now?
http://www.amazon.com/Break-Free-Cl...2078032&sr=8-1&keywords=CLP+cleaner+lubricant
Thanks for the warning, I use this stuff now.
I sent question to the LG and I got this response:
Thank you for contacting LG Electronics.
I do apologize for the trouble on our LG G Watch. Upon checking, the latest software version is the 4.4.W.1 that you already have in your device. Software updates are automatically pushed to the device once it’s connected to the internet via your mobile phone. This confirms that your device is already up-to-date.
For reference, this update was made to disable the current when the G Watch is not in the charging dock. Turning off the current should stop the chemical process that causes corrosion while the metal connectors are in contact with the skin, preventing further residue buildup that causes corrosion.
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So YES, we have the latest software with the fix but the fis is probably not perfect
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I sent question to the LG and I got this response:
So YES, we have the latest software with the fix but the fis is probably not perfect
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Interesting... But can't you get back to them and send them my photo where it clearly shows the current version and evidence of voltage and see what they have to say about it?
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I did, I sent him the same photo as here.
Ialready returned the device to Amazon and I'm back on Sony SW2 which is stable, display is better visible and globally are more usable. I know that it is dead platform but Android Wear needs some time to grow. Software and hardware too
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I did, I sent him the same photo as here.
Ialready returned the device to Amazon and I'm back on Sony SW2 which is stable, display is better visible and globally are more usable. I know that it is dead platform but Android Wear needs some time to grow. Software and hardware too
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I purchased my G Watch through the Play Store and when I contacted them about this they immediately said they would send a replacement out. This was great service, but before using it, I'll be waiting to see if there is a fix or workaround.
I think Google is actually the ones in charge of the software updates, and so I don't think LG support would be the best to contact about the issue. The corrosion fix started rolling out late July (HERE is the list of all the updates) , and there has since been one more update in early September. I worry that something went wonky at that point.
Just yesterday I noticed the second top pin is also discolored in mine
https://plus.google.com/101499173607792501077/posts/X6iweURPDp4
My wife's do not have this issue, probably because I sweat more than her.
Did you guys experience any issues charging? If charging is not affected I will probably leave the issue as it is, afraid that scrapping/cleaning it off is going to make it worse.
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Just yesterday I noticed the second top pin is also discolored in mine
My wife's do not have this issue, probably because I sweat more than her.
Did you guys experience any issues charging? If charging is not affected I will probably leave the issue as it is, afraid that scrapping/cleaning it off is going to make it worse.
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I've read some nasty stuff about this issue. The worst thing that could happen is that you can't charge it anymore. I got my G Watch yesterday and I hope that my watch doesn't get affected by this problem.
ykphuah said:
Just yesterday I noticed the second top pin is also discolored in mine
https://plus.google.com/101499173607792501077/posts/X6iweURPDp4
My wife's do not have this issue, probably because I sweat more than her.
Did you guys experience any issues charging? If charging is not affected I will probably leave the issue as it is, afraid that scrapping/cleaning it off is going to make it worse.
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Just use a piece of PostIt to cover the pins!
Very easy to take off and replace lots of times.
Also try to clean the contacts from time to time to avoid corrosion build-up between the pins.
Even with the latest firmware update, still no voltage fix!
Bad LG... BAD!!!
Cheers!
Rayan said:
Just use a piece of PostIt to cover the pins!
Very easy to take off and replace lots of times.
Also try to clean the contacts from time to time to avoid corrosion build-up between the pins.
Cheers!
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Well, i'm on 4.4W.2, and I checked with a voltmeter : No tension on the pins.
Did updating to 4.4W.2 fixed the problem on yours ?
Recently I found some weird little air bubbles in the corners off my Nexus 9. I don't have any screen protector so that isn't it. It has never repared or replaced before, it's still original.
The air bubbles show up on the left side in both corners and are around 2mm big. In the corners on the right side are also starting to show some bubbles but they are hard to see. I took some pictures, to show you.
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Does anyone has any idea what has happened or what is wrong with it.
O, I never let the device fall so that not the case also.
It's almost 2 years old now and still has some warranty on it.
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Recently I found some weird little air bubbles in the corners off my Nexus 9. I don't have any screen protector so that isn't it. It has never repared or replaced before, it's still original.
The air bubbles show up on the left side in both corners and are around 2mm big. In the corners on the right side are also starting to show some bubbles but they are hard to see. I took some pictures, to show you.
Does anyone has any idea what has happened or what is wrong with it.
O, I never let the device fall so that not the case also.
It's almost 2 years old now and still has some warranty on it.
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same happen here..i thought it only happen on me
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I have the same problem, and they are slowly growing! What can be done to prevent them from growing further, or to remove them?
@KTMlc4111 can you re-upload the pictures? the link is broken.
Photo URL and Google replaced some parts
Hi,
New update about the weird little bubbles in the edge of my screen.
I send my Nexus back to the shop and one week later I was called that they replaced some parts and that the problem was solved. I didn't know what parts where replaced but definitely the screen, back cover and the volume buttons have been replaced. It looks brand new and maybe it is another Nexus.
Here are some old photos because the old URL is broke .
goo.gl/photos/dN5CdPLquB9FvpDU7
Let me know of the URL works now ow and of you have more questions, please let me know.
KTMlc4111 said:
Hi,
New update about the weird little bubbles in the edge of my screen.
I send my Nexus back to the shop and one week later I was called that they replaced some parts and that the problem was solved. I didn't know what parts where replaced but definitely the screen, back cover and the volume buttons have been replaced. It looks brand new and maybe it is another Nexus.
Here are some old photos because the old URL is broke .
goo.gl/photos/dN5CdPLquB9FvpDU7
Let me know of the URL works now ow and of you have more questions, please let me know.
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I also have the same problem in opposite corners. Did they charge you for the repair? If yes, how much?
jamitt said:
I also have the same problem in opposite corners. Did they charge you for the repair? If yes, how much?
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It still had 2 months warranty on it. After the repair it looked brand new. They replaced the screen and cover. Honestly I think they have me a refurbished one.
Hope that it helped you and Good luck
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It still had 2 months warranty on it. After the repair it looked brand new. They replaced the screen and cover. Honestly I think they have me a refurbished one.
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Did you contact HTC directly, or did you contact Google, or did you just send your N9 back to the place you bought it from?
I bought my N9 from Amazon in Dec. 2014, so I'm not sure who to contact, and I'm not even sure I've got a 2 year warranty.
enriquejones666 said:
Did you contact HTC directly, or did you contact Google, or did you just send your N9 back to the place you bought it from?
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I brought it back to the place where I bought it and got it returned in 8 days.
I have 2 bubbles at top left corner and 1 at top right corner. Can't fix
All you need to fix it is bring to repair. I think it's look like glue or plastic just heat and melt down.
PS: same problem and in my country had no store accept to fix it. I think they don't have screen to replace it
Got it too - a bubble in top right corner slowly growing. Do not have either google or htc representative nearby, what am I supposed to do?
Did anyone get anywhere with this? My Nexus 9 has the same issue.
I contacted Google but as my N9 is over 2yo, they won't help me. All they would do is put me through to HTC.
I spoke with HTC and they kept implying I mistreated it or got it wet (I didn't!) Their only solution was to send it in for inspection. That's going to cost $AUD49.50 if I don't proceed with the repair.
I'm disappointed. With several cases like this, I'd say it's some kind of manufacturing defect.
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Did anyone get anywhere with this? My Nexus 9 has the same issue.
I contacted Google but as my N9 is over 2yo, they won't help me. All they would do is put me through to HTC.
I spoke with HTC and they kept implying I mistreated it or got it wet (I didn't!) Their only solution was to send it in for inspection. That's going to cost $AUD49.50 if I don't proceed with the repair.
I'm disappointed. With several cases like this, I'd say it's some kind of manufacturing defect.
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I have it too. Guess I'm just going to have to live with it. I replaced the screen on my n7 (2013), it was fairly easy (for my first time doing something like that). This one looks a little harder, and more expensive. If it gets too bad I'm going to break down and do it. Not too many good tablets out there right now. This one isn't bad with custom ROM on it. Not great, but not bad.
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I have it too. Guess I'm just going to have to live with it. I replaced the screen on my n7 (2013), it was fairly easy (for my first time doing something like that). This one looks a little harder, and more expensive. If it gets too bad I'm going to break down and do it. Not too many good tablets out there right now. This one isn't bad with custom ROM on it. Not great, but not bad.
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This is an old thread but my Nexus 9 has started developing bubbles over the last couple of months, and in the last couple of weeks I've gone from one to three in the top RH corner (just above the battery symbol) and another small one a bit over to the left. Has anyone tried any fixes like applying heat/pressure or anything? I've just gotten to the point where I'm relatively happy with its performance and still can't find a worthy replacement, so I'd like to keep it going for as long as possible.
I got mine repaired, it was still under warranty. But is came back after a year or so.... Never tried to fix it again after that.
same here, 2 bubbles growing...
I just ignore it as it didnt effect the display...
Update:
I found out that the bubbles will move from time to time.
Im assuming that there a bubble trap between digitizer and lcd...
ronald_loulan said:
same here, 2 bubbles growing...
I just ignore it as it didnt effect the display...
Update:
I found out that the bubbles will move from time to time.
Im assuming that there a bubble trap between digitizer and lcd...
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seems i am late to the party ... mine was in the tip right corner and now its moved an inch left ...and i see 2 new ones on the edge ... a manufacturing defect ... seems the corners of the nexus screen by design are such that its sucking in air and the glue closes in from behind forming a bubble ... and further stress on the screen (like tucking the nexus 9 in between clothes for instance while travelling) seem to trigger this movement which in air in between the screen and digitizer bonding ...
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seems i am late to the party ... mine was in the tip right corner and now its moved an inch left ...and i see 2 new ones on the edge ... a manufacturing defect ... seems the corners of the nexus screen by design are such that its sucking in air and the glue closes in from behind forming a bubble ... and further stress on the screen (like tucking the nexus 9 in between clothes for instance while travelling) seem to trigger this movement which in air in between the screen and digitizer bonding ...
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There's no solution to fix it other than replacing the LCD panel....
I have a couple of the Nexus 9 tablets and almost all of them have what looks like bubbles around the screen. However these are not bubbles. The optically clear adhesive that the manufacturer used on these tablets shrinks over time. What you're seeing is actually vacuum pockets. There is no air in these "bubbles" at all. Although disturbing, they are just cosmetic and should not affect the operation of the tablet.
Hello everybody,
As many others, I have experienced problems with GPS reception on my LG G5. Unfortunately, while trying to fit a spring to make a better contact between the motherboard and the aluminum chassis, I busted the capacitors at the far left of the motherboard.
Since I'm a new user, I cannot yet post pictures, but I'll try and give you a description:
Both are SMC capacitors, oriented perpendicularly to one another next to a screw hole at the far top left part of the motherboard.
The one closest to the screw hole seems related to LTE/4G reception and managed to resolder it, but the other one is lost.
Could someone direct me to the correct capacitor values so I can replace them? I have two motherboards that could be used as parts donors (S4 mini and LG G4), but I'd rather not make any blind substitutions based only on appearance.
Any help will be much appreciated!
As soon as I get image link privileges, I will post a much more descriptive pict.
You're sure it's a capacitor? I saw some reworking videos, going by size can work.
I think they are capacitors
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You're sure it's a capacitor? I saw some reworking videos, going by size can work.
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For what I've seen, black SMC components tend to be resistors, while beige ones tend to be capacitors.
The picts available online are not of sufficient resolution to tell if both components have the same value.
Here's an idea! Could you or someone else upload a more detailed pict on this thread? That way I can be more certain and make a better educated guess.
TIA.
Is it the two caps that sit side-by-side which are connected to the contact pad for the bottom module?
kopter36 said:
Is it the two caps that sit side-by-side which are connected to the contact pad for the bottom module?
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I'll try to make a description as accurate as possible:
Place the phone screen down. After removing the aluminium back cover, you'll see an inverted-L shaped motherboard. The screen connector should be at your left, and the battery connector to your right.
If you keep moving up, there is a screw hole next to a silver spongy pad. Then, at the top you will see two capacitors at the edge of the motherboard.
Topmost is vertical, while the one below and slightly to the right is horizontal.
There are also two pairs of unused soldering contacts.
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|#° # C# |
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| ##### |
/ ___ |________
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\
Apologies for my lousy ascii art. It really sucks not being able to upload a pict.
Anyway! Here, "U" and "C" represent the capacitors, while the "°" thingies represent the soldering pads.
I wouldn't just go by size. I'd get a multimeter with capacitance reading and check another board for the in-circuit capacitance (and resistance). Compare those with the capacitance and resistance across the pads to determine what values should be there...
TimSmall said:
I wouldn't just go by size. I'd get a multimeter with capacitance reading and check another board for the in-circuit capacitance (and resistance). Compare those with the capacitance and resistance across the pads to determine what values should be there...
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It's a good idea. However, said components are lost :/
most of the time, if you physically tear components off like that, it tears the solder pads off with it...
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most of the time, if you physically tear components off like that, it tears the solder pads off with it...
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Fortunately, solder pads are intact. I can get a bit of SMD/ BGA welding paste to reattach components if necessary.
SysG33k said:
Fortunately, solder pads are intact. I can get a bit of SMD/ BGA welding paste to reattach components if necessary.
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well thats nice.
if you post a pic of your motherboard where the capacitor is gone, i can test the motherboard i have sitting on my desk.
resinis said:
well thats nice.
if you post a pic of your motherboard where the capacitor is gone, i can test the motherboard i have sitting on my desk.
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That would be awesome!!!
Here is the pict:
https://i.imgur.com/pREkI5e.jpg
If the forum lets me upload picts, the missing caps are marked with arrows.
I don't know if this helps, but when trying to fix the common GPS issues I broke the contact on the bottom side of the motherboard and figured out that that came from the resistor (or capacitor) marked in your image as "1", I soldered a copper wire from the top side of that resistor and made contact to the antena on the chassis and that worked great. If that was a capacitor I think it won't work.
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jaggyjags said:
I don't know if this helps, but when trying to fix the common GPS issues I broke the contact on the bottom side of the motherboard and figured out that that came from the resistor (or capacitor) marked in your image as "1", I soldered a copper wire from the top side of that resistor and made contact to the antena on the chassis and that worked great. If that was a capacitor I think it won't work.
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Your trick sounds interesting, and I might try it but first must replace both components.
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Your trick sounds interesting, and I might try it but first must replace both components.
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Sorry busy weekend. Ill try to get the values tonight
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That would be awesome!!!
Here is the pict:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xigwu47gzkgsiy9/LG%20G5-caps.jpg?dl=0
If the forum lets me upload picts, the missing caps are marked with arrows.
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capacitor 1 = 135 pF
capacitor 2= 50 pF ? (i check it one way, its 47 pF, then i flip the polarity and its 62 pF)
These are in-circuit numbers. You will have to test your pads to determine if any capacitance is throwing my numbers off. Also, my test leads broke, so I had to use regular test leads that are longer, so there may be some variance there too, but it shouldnt be more than a few pF off
This is the best picture i could take with my phone (g5). both capacitors do look the same size physically, but its hard to tell. they're incredibly small, good luck. https://imgur.com/YvMjrQA
resinis said:
capacitor 1 = 135 pF
capacitor 2= 50 pF ? (i check it one way, its 47 pF, then i flip the polarity and its 62 pF)
These are in-circuit numbers. You will have to test your pads to determine if any capacitance is throwing my numbers off. Also, my test leads broke, so I had to use regular test leads that are longer, so there may be some variance there too, but it shouldnt be more than a few pF off
This is the best picture i could take with my phone (g5). both capacitors do look the same size physically, but its hard to tell. they're incredibly small, good luck. https://imgur.com/YvMjrQA
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Ah!!! This is a great headstart! I will start looking for similar component values in the donor motherboards while still mounted. It is a bit odd you got different capacitance values depending upon polarity. They look ceramic-made, so polarity shouldn't be an issue.
Will report back ASAP with hopefully positive results.
Many many thanks!
SysG33k said:
Ah!!! This is a great headstart! I will start looking for similar component values in the donor motherboards while still mounted. It is a bit odd you got different capacitance values depending upon polarity. They look ceramic-made, so polarity shouldn't be an issue.
Will report back ASAP with hopefully positive results.
Many many thanks!
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i wouldnt think about it too much. pF is an incredibly small capacitance measurement. Im surprised my basic tenma meter even showed steady values.
I think I found the original components
Apologies for not getting back sooner. Work :/
Both are ridiculously small and appear slightly white-ish, almost translucent:
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I also managed to take a pict from the place where they are missing on the motherboard:
(Image rotated to the same angle from the pict by @resinis)
Using my original picture as a reference and if my observations are correct, component #1 is for GPS, while #2 is for LTE/UMTS/etc.
Apparently, solder pads are intact. Now I will need a microscope and micro tweezers to properly manipulate both components in place.
It's also quite a relief now being able to post pictures!
Success!!! And final thoughts
Well, after some time I can happily announce the repairs were complete and the phone is back in service.
I couldn't determine the values for each capacitor, so I had a 50/50 chance of getting them right so I went ahead and installed them.
4G reception is back to normal, while GPS is so-so-ish, but at least not erratic anymore.
Why did LG go with such a lousy arrangement for the inverted-F GPS antenna? A simple spring would have been great to make ground contact with the phone backplane.
While I like this phone in general, I am not happy at LG. After pretty bad battery experiences with the G4, and now the GPS issue with the G5, I think my next device might be a Xiaomi or something else. We shall see.
Many many thanks to everyone on here that helped me complete this quest!
SysG33k said:
Well, after some time I can happily announce the repairs were complete and the phone is back in service.
I couldn't determine the values for each capacitor, so I had a 50/50 chance of getting them right so I went ahead and installed them.
4G reception is back to normal, while GPS is so-so-ish, but at least not erratic anymore.
Why did LG go with such a lousy arrangement for the inverted-F GPS antenna? A simple spring would have been great to make ground contact with the phone backplane.
While I like this phone in general, I am not happy at LG. After pretty bad battery experiences with the G4, and now the GPS issue with the G5, I think my next device might be a Xiaomi or something else. We shall see.
Many many thanks to everyone on here that helped me complete this quest!
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Congrats, mate!