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... would this still be the phone to get over the SGSII? I'm not talking about sense vs touchwiz, i'm talking about raw power. How would the two phones compare running a stable nearly identical CM7? Can anyone (NO BIAS please) explain to me which phone has better capabilities?
I know I'm getting WAYY ahead of myself, but i'm still deciding IF HTC responded to their customers and unlocked the bootloader if I would get the EVO 3D or still wait for the SGSII, considering I'm sticking with either one for the next two years.
I've heard people say the SGSII has better raw power-- on the SGSII forum
I've also heard the some of you on this forum say the EVO 3D is better. Obviously, there is some bias involved and one phone is more powerful than the other.
I actually have some hope that HTC might do something about the bootloader. If this is the case, I have a really tough decision on which phone to still get. As for now, if the bootloader remains unlocked, its SGSII all the way
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... would this still be the phone to get over the SGSII? I'm not talking about sense vs touchwiz, i'm talking about raw power. How would the two phones compare running a stable nearly identical CM7? Can anyone (NO BIAS please) explain to me which phone has better capabilities?
I know I'm getting WAYY ahead of myself, but i'm still deciding IF HTC responded to their customers and unlocked the bootloader if I would get the EVO 3D or still wait for the SGSII, considering I'm sticking with either one for the next two years.
I've heard people say the SGSII has better raw power-- on the SGSII forum
I've also heard the some of you on this forum say the EVO 3D is better. Obviously, there is some bias involved and one phone is more powerful than the other.
I actually have some hope that HTC might do something about the bootloader. If this is the case, I have a really tough decision on which phone to still get. As for now, if the bootloader remains unlocked, its SGSII all the way
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Who said the sgs2 on sprint is even true other than a random website. Certainly not sprint nor Samsung. Noone has a clue about what the phone would be or even changed with a slider. Its all rumors.
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tannerw_2010 said:
... would this still be the phone to get over the SGSII? I'm not talking about sense vs touchwiz, i'm talking about raw power. How would the two phones compare running a stable nearly identical CM7? Can anyone (NO BIAS please) explain to me which phone has better capabilities?
I know I'm getting WAYY ahead of myself, but i'm still deciding IF HTC responded to their customers and unlocked the bootloader if I would get the EVO 3D or still wait for the SGSII, considering I'm sticking with either one for the next two years.
I've heard people say the SGSII has better raw power-- on the SGSII forum
I've also heard the some of you on this forum say the EVO 3D is better. Obviously, there is some bias involved and one phone is more powerful than the other.
I actually have some hope that HTC might do something about the bootloader. If this is the case, I have a really tough decision on which phone to still get. As for now, if the bootloader remains unlocked, its SGSII all the way
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seriously why does it even matter? Say one phone is faster than the other. The specs are so close together that any speed difference would barley even be noticeable on a side by side. The difference would be nothing if you didn't have both phones in hand.
Really I think the biggest difference would be the UI, so debate sense vs touchwiz
Why does it matter what phone is faster?? Well thats a stupid question
more speeeeed! I need to open my yelp FASTER....FASTER!!!!! Ya. In the end I'd find a way to underclock the thing because battery life > all
No need for another thread: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ve-an-unlocked-bootloader-one-way-or-another/
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Why does it matter what phone is faster?? Well thats a stupid question
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No, it's a valid question and jessejames makes a very good point ... the specs are so close that any speed difference would be negligible from a user standpoint, especially if you're not actually doing a side-by-side comparison.
I'd even go so far as to say that the effective data rate differences between the various 4G transmission standards will have significantly more of an effect on apparent phone response times in many applications than any actual benchmark differences between the two phones.
I feel like the EVO 3d isn't much of an improvement over the EVO. Downgrade in camera department and no full 1080p recording. And still skimping on internal storage...not sure if the 3d screen is worth losing those other features....
I think ima wait for the sgs2 since the EVO 3d is the same as my EVO with a 3d screen and slightly better performance
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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more speeeeed! I need to open my yelp FASTER....FASTER!!!!! Ya. In the end I'd find a way to underclock the thing because battery life > all
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Both good points, lol.
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I feel like the EVO 3d isn't much of an improvement over the EVO. Downgrade in camera department and no full 1080p recording. And still skimping on internal storage...not sure if the 3d screen is worth losing those other features....
I think ima wait for the sgs2 since the EVO 3d is the same as my EVO with a 3d screen and slightly better performance
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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You my friend are as confused as confused can be.....u probably should read up on the phone because you aren't quite sure what the Evo 3d is, if you believe what you wrote.
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I feel like the EVO 3d isn't much of an improvement over the EVO. Downgrade in camera department and no full 1080p recording. And still skimping on internal storage...not sure if the 3d screen is worth losing those other features....
I think ima wait for the sgs2 since the EVO 3d is the same as my EVO with a 3d screen and slightly better performance
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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Bump the processing power from 1Ghz to 1.2Ghz then double it, double the ram, bump the resolution to qHD, shoot 1080p in 2D, 720p in 3D, and that's not much of an upgrade from the original EVO?
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You my friend are as confused as confused can be.....u probably should read up on the phone because you aren't quite sure what the Evo 3d is, if you believe what you wrote.
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Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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put ya suit on there coming!!!!!
phyba said:
Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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I do believe you are just misinformed. The EVO is the Sensation just with 3d added. They both have a SLCD qhd display. Also, just because the Sensation's camera is 8mp does not mean it is better. The EVO is 8mp and the camera is much worse then many other phones that are 5mp.
You need to do some more research as far as MP's are concerned as well as the comparing the Sensation to the EVO 3d.
I believe I was very nice with my response. Other's might not be this kind to you. lol
phyba said:
Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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Your basing camera quality on MPs. That's your first mistake, HTC has stated the camera on the E3D is much improved over the original evo. Why? Better lens, hardware, etc. MPs don't matter as much as you would like to believe. The 5MP camera on the iPhone is a perfect example. More on board storage would be nice but with 32GB mSD available and 64GB on the way I'm not too worried about it. Storage has never been an issue for me in the past and it won't be in the future.
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OP, its going to come down to personal preference. Both of these phones have monstrous specs and will perform quote similarly. They both have rock star CPUs and GPUs and will be very closely matched in performance.
Tapa tapa tapa
Samsung's Hummingbird never stops to please us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6sPTcFpAc
phyba said:
Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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If you are even familiar with the actual specs--which it sounds like you definitely are not--then you have absolutely no understanding of what they mean.
This phone is a beast. Any performance difference between the two will be negligible bone-stock and even more negligible modded to the teeth.
Tell us, what did they "skimp out" on? The asynchronous dual core 1.2gHz cpu? The kick-ass new adreno gpu? the qHD screen that just so happens to also do 3D? A GIGABYTE of ram? Over a certain amount internal storage means absolutely nothing to anybody who knows better, and Evo3D is far past this amount.
Not to mention HTC build quality and dev community (now with official mfgr support). I would accuse you of holding specs in too high a regard over other more important things...but I don't think you even understand the specs enough to be doing that.
Someone gave you some koolaide and you drank it. You love koolaide.
phyba said:
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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This is yet another portion of your mis-information. You realize the two screens have differing resolutions, correct? Not a little difference either, but a vast 35% pixel difference. The Adreno 220 is I believe more powerful then the SGS2's gpu, but is also doing 35% more work with the higher pixel count that qHD brings to the table.
Also, pure processing tests did not show the sensation as weaker, it got what, 46MFLOPS? Not to mention the dual core is much more efficient on battery life then the tegra2 was.
Your points are all invalid as you simply don't include all the variables that create the differences.
Edit: I want to add my post was not meant as a defense of the E3D, as I'm personally seriously considering the SGS2 solely for its slenderness. But when you see posts that full of one sided information and wrong conclusions it's only natural to respond.
This is in the general section, so I think I'm safe posting this, heh.
I'm going to start by saying this: I love my E3D. I left TMo before getting the Sensation to come back to Sprint for the Evo 3D. Locked bootloader or no, broken promises or no, this is the BADDEST device I've ever had my hands on!
That being said, yes, I'm more than a tad honked off @ HTC for tossing us BS/No answers for the bootloader unlocking issue, and have sent my emails to them in kind. I've been watching the Facebook/Twitter/Official Web sites since these shenanigans started, and what I see shocks me... People literally THREATENING HTC with things ranging from something as severe as hacking the company, to as minor as just returning their phones.
The worst I see though, are the threats to go with the Galaxy S2.
How quickly some forget the crap that Samsung was party to in regards to the Moment, the Epic/Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate, and the Intercept. Did we all just blank out that time in our collective consciousness, the crap that was packaged as a Samsung device? How terrible they performed? How they kept promising phantom updates that would not show up at all or materialize, brick phones, then be pulled off the market? How they liked to fall apart and not work? The only Samsung device worth its salt, that I can see, is the Nexus S - and that's mostly because it was pure Google software.
Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage, but I've not once had ANY issue with my HTC devices from WM6 to Android - but I've had nothing but a terrible history with Sammy, and I know I'm not the only one.
So... IJS. My 2 cents on the whole issue - I hope it was coherent enough to make Sense (lolz)... pain killers for the back are a b****.
Edit: I just read the post with the HTC response that they WILL unlock the bootloader, so that's at least a step in the right direction..
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
I'm hoping every thread on the 1st page of the Evo 3d general forums is filled with complaining about bootloader's. Seems to be the trend.
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Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
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That did crack me up.
The complaining got them to step up and commit to unlock in the first place. That HTC page is going to be a warzone until they start systematically issuing the OTAs that will unlock these devices we paid for.
...and so far as the threats of buying Samsung, while I agree with you (except that the NexusS is somehow any better...same weak radios, my main concern), consumers should 'vote with their wallet' more often. Then companies might be a little more cautious about trying bull**** like this. Even if they provide a technically better product if it is not provided on terms you agree with (locked) or worse yet the company lies to you about future functionality...well...vote with your wallet. That's a language they'll understand.
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I completely agree with you, and I stay away from everything Sammy usually, so I didn't fully realize how close the devices are hardware-wise.
I'm digging my 3d capability, and I think I've almost got it dialed-in.
All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Ive had SGS2 for two weeks. 3D actually is faster to me. Consistantly.
But camera? Nope. Not really close unfortunately.
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All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Really? Well I'm no camera expert. In the lab, which is all flourescent lighting....EVO 3d did spectacular.
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Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
borgqueenx said:
Well long time no see XDA Dev's!
i was here ages ago when i had the touch diamond phone, wich is garbage
im now in posession of a iphone 4, but in 1 month i can choose a new phone.
So my eyes are all focussed on the HTC Evo 3d, but also on the samsung 3d phone.
dont think i didnt do my research. i spend 4 hours today watching and seeing reviews and battle's of the phones.
What ive learned, and i really would like your opinion of this list to see if its correct or lies...(and ive never touched one of the phones ever)
-The evo3d does not have alot of depth? (how is it compared to the 3ds?)
-The evo3d falls behind in benchmarks and games compared to the optimus 3d?
so what do you think about this?
Secondly, i really do like the design of the evo3d. the design of the optimus is a bit crappy IMO.
And maybe one of you guys know wich phone will have smoother browsing and games playing?(planning on buying some 3d games.)
and the specs online...
some say the evo has 4gb of internal memory...other say its 1gb.
some say it can only make 2MP 3d pictures. others say 5MP. (and if they are 2mp cant it be hacked?)
and finally ive read that the optimus 3d does NOT has multitouch while the evo has...is that true?
and is it possible to rip the 3d menu of the optimus and put it on the evo3d? that would probaly help me in making a purchase descision, lol!
And are the browsers, menu's ect smooth? because i come from a iphone...and iphone is 100% smoothness. no lag whatsoever.
Thanks for your time! i will also make this topic on the optimus3d side...so i will learn as much as possible
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The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
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I have play with both phones, and owned a iPhone 4 for a good time, yet the LG phones has higher benckmarks but in reaility doesn't mean much , just to let you know gingerbread update wich is what is the EVO running is no taking advantage on the duel cores yet, been said that i think the EVO 3d is for you, HTC sense does take ablot space but is make for the new user in mind you won't have trouble at all coming from the iPhone , battery life in Android is no as good as the iPhone but the EVO 3D doesn't have a bad battery life tho, keyboard the comes with the 3d is really good multitouch but iphones still better by hair lol, and the browser is really good and matches to the iPhone as well, camera you will miss it, no for nothing.but the sensor on the iPhone 4 is the best one in the states, the screen being bigger you will ask yourself how come apple haven't done this yet, so much better to read and watch videos , and if you like browse the web in your phone you will love it, I think the 3D is a better customer experience and you will have a blast from it, I have some friends the I convince to get some great Android phones and they love it so far, apps are getting much better now that what it was a year ago and they take less space then ios apps do so don't freak out with 1gb of memory you still have a SD card to tansfer your apps too and can upgrade to 32 gb SD card , I hope this helps on your decision
From my EVO 3D
Ruki_Uki said:
The depth is good I think, some pictures/videos better then others. But i think much better then the 3ds. That thing gives me a major headache turning the 3D all the way up. Never had that problem with my phone. I actually enjoy the 3D and hasn't faded away like I thought it would.
It does have 4gb of internal but Sense takes up about 3 of it so we are left with 1, which is still plenty.
I never heard if the 5mp vs 2mp but i haven't noticed. The camera is very nice in both 2D and 3D. And the camera button is actually very nice, I wasn't too exited about it at first but fi d it very useful.
And as for the smoothness, I haven't witnessed any lag at all so far. It's very smooth and I have dominated my buddies iPhone 4 with my 3D several times.
I know a lot of ppl have their complains, and bringing them back, but i can't complain about it. I love this phone and is with out a doubt the best phone I have ever had and used
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hmm can you take some photo's and see how many pixels they are so we know the resolution?
if you turn the 3ds all the way up, and look at a 3d game on your evo3d? wich has more depth? ofcource the 3ds got crap resolution, i already know that
Guess it depends on just what it is your looking for in a phone. Being as your coming frome a iPhone 4 I guess it comes down to Android/HTC Sense vs iOS. Because hardware wise you won't see any improvement. Actually it's really a downgrade from the iPhone 4 which has a better screen, better camera, and battery life. Also way more apps and a better gaming experience. Only thing the 3D has over it would be the larger screen and the 3D feature which is gimmicky IMO. The dual core doesn't come into play because Gingerbread nor any Android apps utilize it. Now OS wise I would have to give the edge to Android with it being more open and easier to customize than iOS which is why I love it. Now in the case of the 3D that openness won't be on display until it gets full root/S-Off/unlocked bootloader/custom kernels but that is coming eventually. So I guess you have to decide whether you want to stick with iOS or Android. The 3D while a great phone right now isn't the phone that really shows off what Android can do when compared to iOS. Now when they finally break the shackles that HTC/Sprint put on it and hang around here a little longer, than you will see what Android/3D really has to offer. Then again it looks like Apple stole a bunch of things from Android and put it into the new iOS 5 and from the rumors the iPhone 5 looks to be a beast spec-wise so maybe you should wait around for that to drop.
I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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I have to disagree with a lot of what Klbjr said.
First, lets throw away the iPhone 5 comments. To compare a theoretical phone that isn't even on the market to a phone that actually is doesn't really work.
Second, I've used iPhone 4's before as I support them at a place I work and the speed issues that supposedly Android suffers are a load. A lot of the "lag" that people talk about comes from widgets that have dynamic screens and auto-update from the web/data connection. So there can be hesitation from that. If you make your screens completely static like an iPhone, just about any 1Ghz Android phone will run just as smooth. I know there will be a bunch of knuckleheads that will challenge that statement, but I'm speaking from experience and actual real-world trials and not the view of a fanboy. The Evo 3D can run circles around the iPhone 4 performance wise.
The cameras. Yes, the iPhone's mono-lens camera is better. Apple did it right there and they put in a quality lens. However, the Evo 3D's cameras are pretty decent if you know how to use them and take a few minutes to understand the settings. It seems the "auto" settings cause more problems than not for people.
Now, that being said, if you are going to try to become a professional photographer with your cell phone then by all means, stick with the iPhone. I don't think you will last long in the professional photography world, but that's just my guess.
As far as HTC Sense goes, people tend to love it or hate it. Personally, I really like a lot of the features and the look of Sense. Klbjr obviously hates it. So I would say you should go to a Sprint store and check it out. Make sure you like it first. Play with the features, try the things you are interested in trying, and see what you think after hearing all the feedback and getting some hands on experience.
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What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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*rolls eyes*
Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
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What were you reading? Apparently nothing I said! I didn't compare anything to the iPhone 5. My actual words were if you listen to the RUMORS the iPhone 5 looks like a beast spec-wise! All of my comparisons were with his current phone THE IPHONE 4! Never metioned anything about lag because I didn't notice any with the 3D. I speak also from owning and comparing both phones! Now you show me were the 3D runs circles around the iPhone 4. I said they were on par with each other. I'm no fanboy of either phone or OS. If anything I would be accused of being a fanboy of HTC and Android. The 3D was my 8th HTC phone & my 5th Android phone of which 3 were made by HTC. Also I've always been a fan of Sense. Never liked AOSP/CM ROMS. Now to get back to what I actually said and not the BS you said, the iPhone 4 does have a better screen in every aspect, except for slightly larger size & the fact the 3D can view 3D movies/pics. You spoke about the camera so no need to go there & battery life isn't a argurment. I don't care which ROM/kernel you run on any Android phone it still won't give you the battery life that people get with the iPhone 4. The only time I got anywhere close was when using my 3500 Seidio with SBC kernel on my Evo. But none of that is stock. So its not a fair comparison. About the only thing you did get right was telling him to go into a store & try it out as this seems to be his first venture into the world of Android & decide for himself. I prefer Android over iOS for my own reasons, he may have other reasons. I have seen iPhone users come over to Android & love it & vice versa. It's all up to personal preferences. But even being a over a year old, the iPhone 4 is still at the top of the list performance wise when compared to current phones on the market.
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i do like my iphone 4's screen ALOT. before the iphone 4 i had the 3gs wich was huge screen upgrade. but will since apple broke their routine of a new iphone each year at desame time, im looking at android. i didnt purchase to many apps so switching is not hard. but im wondering if the downgrade of the screen is going to be big? i mean i ofcource like my iphone 4's screen vs the 3gs. but the screen of the optimus and evo3d are also still alot better then the 3gs. i also like my ipad2's screen(dpi). if the evo3d and the optimus3d got a fair amount of more dpi i probaly dont really mind the downgrade.
Next the iphone4's camera. yes, i love the quality of colors ect this thing makes. but im a sucker for functionality. 3d photo's man...thats super cool. but i do like quality. if the photo's are somewhere near the iphone 4thats okay already. i just dont want pixelated photo's like the 3ds makes haha.
the thing i really am afraid of is the evo3d getting ****. ive heard alot bad stuff about it even on this forum...returned because of dead pixels, bugs, flaws...i also heard the optimus3d is faster because it has the cortex9 instead of the older cortex8.
Things i like alot about the evo3d is its sense menu...i loved that way back on my touch diamond(although the touch diamond is garbage), its design, its led for notification about email and texts, and ofcource its 3d.
but well everyone says i need to choose the optimus over the evo3d for its 3d screen. i dont really care about the 3d games and menu's right now because maybe the menu of the optimus3d can be ripped out in the future...but else i also believe the markerplace will be slowly filled up with 3d goodies. i want to know the sweet spot of the 3d games...can i use it with accelerometer driving, wont the effect be ****ty when i have 2 thumbs on the screen when playing NOVA...and it seems everyone thinks and says the optimus3d got more depth then the evo3d.
about the optimus3d i like that it seems to be alot faster because its a cortex9...it has 8gb memory build in wich is a nice extra, and well again...the 3d is better. and ofcource the menu...but i hope its going to be ripped sometime so the htc evo3d users can have it as well...
It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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Listen knucklehead, you had your opinion. I said I disagree with it. I was respectful and then you come back with all your anger and hate. I still disagree with what you said and now I think you are a douche on top of it. If you don't like my opinion and views, don't read them.
Not everything has to be a pissing match for your fragile ego...
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
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It seems like the comments display the pros of the iPhone over the e3d but not visa versa..ok..the screen on the iPhone is a higher resolution..but the EVO is almost an inch larger amd has 3d capability. The iphone 4 has basically the same chipset as the gs1 and while a good soc it can't hold a candle to the 8660..it just can't..camera..well ill give that to you..but only in lower light situations..I take great pictures in daylight.. e3d has 4G, iPhone can keep dreaming..also unless.your jail broke you will pay for all your music games etc..I have great music apps where u dont pay a dime for any songs. I'm not gonna debate the ios vs android thing..I'm a fan of android obviously..but I don't believe anyone can say that the iphone 4 and e3d are equal in terms of hardware..the power of the dual core will become apparent eventually. All phones have bugs/quirks at launch and they will be ironed out.
Now I have no experience with the LG optimus 3d ..it seems nice but i wouldn't buy an LG phone ..I know benchmarks on the LG seem better but that really isn't a good Indication of user experience and more of an indication of the flaws of said benchmarks. Either way you can't go wrong..like one of the above comments said ,go and play with them and decide for yourself. There is a YouTube video which is a dogfight between the two ..I recommend watching it
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I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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I have no anger or hate. It had nothing to do with whether or not you agreed or disagreed. I made my post to help the OP in his decision on whether or not to get the 3D and how I thought it compared to his current phone. But I do hate it when people misread my posts, take what they want from them and then twist it, to come up with their own speculations. Case in point how you said that I compared the 3D to the iPhone 5 which I never did because there is no iPhone 5 yet. All we have are rumors. I compared his iPhone 4 to the 3D. Or how you come to the conclusion that I must hate Sense when that is farthest from the truth and nothing in my post even mentioned or compared Sense. So as you can see it has nothing to do with my ego. The OP can take my advice or yours. Doesn't hurt me one bit, but when you supposedly quote me, quote me correctly and not with your own BS assumptions.
I also did note that when comparing the screens the 3D had the edge in screen size and the 3D capability. I did forget to mention the 4G capability but it slipped my mind because of my own use of it which is never. I live in a 4G area, right outside Philly. I even have neighbors who have Clear as their ISP but my 4G has always been spotty at best. On the Og Evo & 3D. Plus it is a battery killer so I never use it much. The OP may have better results. Can't really get into the music/app thing because with torrents/newsgroups anyone can get free music/apps. That's not really relative to the phones. The camera on the 3D while being better than the OG Evo and ok for a phone still doesn't come close to the iPhone 4's. You are also correct that right now on paper the 8660 beats the iPhone along with every other phone on the market now, but benchmarks don't count for anything. It's about real world performance and the iPhone 4 is just as quick and responsive as the 3D. Like others have said, the dual core counts for nothing at this point because we don't have anything that actually utilizes it and in most scenarios the iPhone will fair better because it has hardware acceleration something that Google hasn't gotten around to yet.
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Fair enough..everyone has a right to their opinion..but i do believe if u put sense 3.0 on the iphone 4 it would struggle and lag just like a lot of phones do..ios is streamlined and simple..if you enjoy that that's great..and if it doesn't change much the new iPhone won't really need extra power..
What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
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If a developer ports a sense like ROM to the phone yes...
3D > iClone
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What about htc sense...can it be ripped and installed on another android phone?
(like the optimus3d)
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Yup but is no a easy task unlike Android that is completely open (since Google releases the code to everyone ) HTC sense is no release (just like ios ) and developers have to guess with code and it won't be as smooth
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Not when HTC sense is now open and provided open source SDK
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That's actually to male apps and it doesn't give you the base, is an sdk to make apps just like the one for ios the apple provides , cyanogen tweet it about that too
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Has sense been port/ripped to another non-htc android device before?
Maybe there are alternatives with desame look?
carrier unlocking
hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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hi guys... im sorry if i am asking this question in wrong thread!!!
actually i'm too impressed with htc evo 3d's specifications as well as from the reviews by its users...as this phone is not released all over the world, i'm thinking to buy it online from US...but as the phone is associated with sprint, If i buy this phone would i be able to carrier unlock the phone by updating to custom rom or any other ways ????
thankx...
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Sorry but that would be a no. From my understanding Sprint uses CDMA & no SIM card so you just can't unlock & swap SIMs like you can with GSM phones. I heard they may be releasing a 3D or something similar, to European carriers, as seeing the 3D is supposedly a Sprint exclusive. You could try the Sensation, it is pretty much the same phone just minus the 3D capabilities & 768MB of RAM as opposed to 1GB in the 3D. The only carriers I've ever heard of people being able to port over to Sprint phones were Cricket Wireless & Metro PCS, but they are also US carriers.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/index.html?type=find
I never thought I would buy another samsung product but the galaxy note got me thinking about selling my evo 3d as soon as a Sprint Release date is shown if one ever will be.
Im going to miss sense but fellow Evo3d users what do you think of the Galaxy note. I know Samsung is the dark side but you cant argue with the specs.
And no im not a troll I really want your opinions and I am a hater of Samsung, but im rethinking that stance.
I'll admit for being a somewhat anti samsung user, it does look interesting.
Looks good, but still interested to see if Samsung has made updates a priority before I would ever think about taking the dive.
What's the point...its not coming to sprint.
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im thinking its made to get ICS, ICS on it will be the only way i put down my evo3d because i really dont see anything on the horizon to make me put my evo3d down, im not into the nexus prime and the sgs2 is nothing but a nexus prime lite and i hate apple more than samsung, so no ip4s. I really would like a bigger screen evo 3d with better contrast, the Galaxy Note would fit my needs only and only if Sprint gets it though. I know its GSM only for now but take the cdma carrier network chip from the epic touch 4g should easily swap in.
Now samsung I don't ask you for anything, I really cant stand you but if you and Sprint can manage to make a Galaxy Note 4g for sprint or call it a Epic Note 4g, Ill pretend to start to like you samsung
"http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-source-code-now-available/"]http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/20/samsung-galaxy-note-source-code-now-available/
have fun moving over seas (or switching carriers?) if this turns out to be true
I'm liking it!
"Standard battery, Li-on 2,500 mAh "
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you might as well buy a flyer lol
Wow, not bad at all.
I stand corrected... I thought it was a 5" tablet... My B.
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Um... Yes it is.
And I think it looks awesome. If sprint got one I would absolutely get it. Then root it and get rid of anything samsung, of course
This thing + CM9-ICS would be pretty epic.
Well not only am I watching this device closely but it looks like samsung has developed it with ICS in mind
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/21/android-ice-cream-sandwich-includes-native-stylus-support/
If it comes to sprint im all over it. Perfect screen size for me personally. On paper its the perfect phone for me, other than being a samsung anyway
dual core spped freak
Eh, not a fan of carrying around a tablet sized phone in my pocket.
4.3 is perfect and it should eb the norm IMO.
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Eh, not a fan of carrying around a tablet sized phone in my pocket.
4.3 is perfect and it should eb the norm IMO.
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If all phones were of this size, people will soon get bored.
what the balls was that video about seriously.... that told me nothing about the phone lol.
Screen is too big IMO. The bigger battery isn't all that to sing about because with a screen that size it will still get the same battery life as any other phone.
The cool thing is the thing will probably see ICS... and so will the gs2.
But in the end, its still a samsung to me. And still a huge con to all the pros.
WOW... 5.3" screen... Suite me with a big palm... Hehe
There are always better phones coming out from time to time (unlike iPhones), no need to put out latest models and say prefer this over that. I am very satisfied with EVO 3D now and unless there is another 3D phone capable of doing ZSL 12MP 2D/8MP 3D pics, 1080p 3D vids @ 30 fps, 4G, NFC, Dolby, Quad-core, IPX7... I am not gonna jump ship yet.
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There are always better phones coming out from time to time (unlike iPhones), no need to put out latest models and say prefer this over that. I am very satisfied with EVO 3D now and unless there is another 3D phone capable of doing ZSL 12MP 2D/8MP 3D pics, 1080p 3D vids @ 30 fps, 4G, NFC, Dolby, Quad-core, IPX7... I am not gonna jump ship yet.
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NOW dont get me wrong I love my EVO3d but I remember the feeling I got when I first got my TP2, with the evo3d that feeling was not there but as much as I love my evo3d it was not anything evolutionary about it, its a great phone and it does everything i need it too but all I was saying is the Galaxy Note although it is samsung, have tons more upside than the EVO3d (i miss stylus input badly, and a good camera and that screen 5.3 "BRILLIANT") and all the other devices out here are the same a pixel here a meg there most phone released today are 4"-4.65" 1 to 1.2 ghz 5 to 8mp device all the same. When a 5.3 inch hd screen STYLUS INPUT super big battery 8mp rear 2mp front comes along its definitely different then the norm so yea Ill jump ship then and only then.
Hey guys I didn't see another thread like this after looking around for quite a while if there is please forgive me and shoot me a link
So here it is what would you like to see in a new EVO ? The origonal EVO to me was a game changer that was way ahead of its time a great phone that for the most part still keeps up with most phones on the market today. The EVO 3D was well a good step in the right direction to me but not a whole new world. What would make a new EVO even more amazing than most of the other smart phones out there I would love to see....
Physical hardware:
-Bigger screen 4.7"
-Thinner design (everyone else is doing it I mean even Motorola which I have always considered to be crap has an incredibly thin phone)
-Better battery life by means of a larger capacity battery+software development)
-Speakers ! not speaker we want the option to make speakerphone calls to loud not the option to move it closer to your ear !
-Do not get rid of the micro sd card like the new one series !
-Sprint LTE (a given)
-More ram everyone is moving toward bigger processors i mean quad core but still with 1gb of ram ?
-Better GPU, my old Samsung Galaxy Tab seams to do better than my evo in this regard.
Software:
-Fast camera(sense4.0 seams to improve)
-Landscape home screen (sense4.0)
-Look at what the devs are doing I am running Eternity and its soo much faster than stock and better in every way.
When it comes down to it I think the EVO 3d is a great phone and unlike most people I actually use the 3D functionality and wouldn't mind them keeping it in the next model.
The popularity and development of the EVO 3D in my opnion has stemmed from the OG EVO and could not be much better IMHO there are allot of great devs working on the EVO and I know that is what has kept me from switching to the Samsung S2. I hope the next round of HTC phones on sprint can live up to the competition in order to keep this great development community together !
So enough of my rambling what do you want in your next HTC from Sprint (EVO)!?!?!
EDIT: I really don't care if its $350 on contract I just want the best quality phone with all the features !
Print money of course but after that, option on Sense 4 to get the old pre-Sense 4 rosie back. I HATE the new Sense rosie! Might as well use launcher pro plus which hasn't been updated in almost a year.
I've been ripping on HTC lately but to be honest, if they announced another 3D Android phone, I'm all in.
What would I like to see? 3D with better cameras and ZSL. A full 720p 3D screen that doesn't cut the pixel count in half when in 3D.
After that it's all gravy. I just want another 3D phone with better features than the current EVO 3D.
Honestly though, if the specs 'leaked' for the Galaxy S III are real, (full 1080p screen) I think I'm jumping ship this year.
It'd be the first time in the better part of a decade that my *main* smartphone wasn't an HTC. :^\
Bring back the kickstand!
If they include 3D, then I'm in
Better battery, sd card slot, quad core, nice screen but not too big.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Lose the 3D, give me 4.7" and tegra 3
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How but some notification light that borders the phone .....
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5" 1080 screen, quad core, loose the 3d and just put a better camera in it front and back. not to worried about thickness so a little larger battery. Headphone AND mike jacks. 2 gigs or more ram
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Have you not seen the recently announced "HTC One X" at least that's what it will be called in the UK. Google it, its quad core, 720p screen etc, no 3d though....
For me, a screen size between 4.3 and 4.5...anything bigger just seems like overkill, but then again, I though 4.3 was before getting my first EVO! I agree, it's gotta be thin but have good battery life...maybe an HTC version of the RAZR Maxx? Sprint LTE, Qualcomm S4, sense 4.0 (with an UNLOCKED bootloader none of this HBOOT 1.5 crap HTC!!), kickstand, 720p screen, and that's about it! can't wait to buy it haha
Well just bought my girlfriend am evolution 3D off craigslist to use instrlead of her iPhone and after less than a day she is back to her iPhone. Why .... The speaker! Nothing else she likes everything else better about the evolution but spends to much time on speaker phone and it annoyed her.... You here that HTC! Make it loud... I have never really used an iPhones speakerphone before yeaterday or music and all I can say is wow that thing is loud and clear as can be.
I guess when it comes down to it for pure phone / camera functionality iPhone kills any android I've used. Wake up HTC!
Don't getvme wrong ill never have an iPhone
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Make a One X as a pure Android device and call it the EVO Nexus.
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Quad core. Thinner and lighter. Kickstand. Better camera. Higher screen resolution. Go back to a HDMI cord that is actually useable (stupid dongle). LTE of course.
Samsung has been tempting me lately. HTC better bring it.
Newest Quad Core with a speed of atleast 1.2Ghz with Turbboost to 1.5Ghz like on the Intel I series Chips. 1.5 to 2 Gb of Ram. 16 Gb Internal memory + 64 Gb SD card included (yeah right not gonna happen with Sprint). Retain the 4.3" 16:9 ratio screen (Like the feel of the 3D much better in hand than the OG 4G) but with 1080p. If they keep 3D (I dought they will) no half definition for 3D mode. A lag free 8 or 12mp (Dual 8mp if retaining 3D) Camera with much better low light sensitivity and FULL functionality like on the Amaze4G. Ofcourse retain SD slot. Retain Camera Button (Me Likey Likey). Maybe move wake button to right side of phone above volume rockers...maybe. Include HML adapter with phone (Cheapskates). Dual Stereo speakers with actual output and a kickstand...even if it kills space for 3D hardware. 2300mah Battery. If even it was 2mm thicker than what we have now it would be ok...it would be a beast. Dual Band WiMax 4G and 4G LTE Radios would be excellent unless they are going to cut contracts with ClearWire then it doesn't matter just 4GLTE.
Now to stuff this in an envelope and mail it to Sprint - Attn: Santa Clause Department / PipeDreamers
But I would buy one tomorrow if it came out...Love my HTC phones.
I will love it if the Battery lasted a few more hours specially when using wifi or the 3d camera also make the camera a lot more faster the EVO 3D take like 2 to 3 second to snap just one pic in 3D. it will be nice if they can improve the camera quality. Make the phone Quadcore plz make speaker louder or at least make them sound a lot better not like some cheap speakers. make it so that we can switch song long pressing the volumes key on the EVO 3D and try to ad a fell new Features or make some optional updates periodically