**IF**, by some miracle, HTC unlocks the bootloader.... - HTC EVO 3D

... would this still be the phone to get over the SGSII? I'm not talking about sense vs touchwiz, i'm talking about raw power. How would the two phones compare running a stable nearly identical CM7? Can anyone (NO BIAS please) explain to me which phone has better capabilities?
I know I'm getting WAYY ahead of myself, but i'm still deciding IF HTC responded to their customers and unlocked the bootloader if I would get the EVO 3D or still wait for the SGSII, considering I'm sticking with either one for the next two years.
I've heard people say the SGSII has better raw power-- on the SGSII forum
I've also heard the some of you on this forum say the EVO 3D is better. Obviously, there is some bias involved and one phone is more powerful than the other.
I actually have some hope that HTC might do something about the bootloader. If this is the case, I have a really tough decision on which phone to still get. As for now, if the bootloader remains unlocked, its SGSII all the way

tannerw_2010 said:
... would this still be the phone to get over the SGSII? I'm not talking about sense vs touchwiz, i'm talking about raw power. How would the two phones compare running a stable nearly identical CM7? Can anyone (NO BIAS please) explain to me which phone has better capabilities?
I know I'm getting WAYY ahead of myself, but i'm still deciding IF HTC responded to their customers and unlocked the bootloader if I would get the EVO 3D or still wait for the SGSII, considering I'm sticking with either one for the next two years.
I've heard people say the SGSII has better raw power-- on the SGSII forum
I've also heard the some of you on this forum say the EVO 3D is better. Obviously, there is some bias involved and one phone is more powerful than the other.
I actually have some hope that HTC might do something about the bootloader. If this is the case, I have a really tough decision on which phone to still get. As for now, if the bootloader remains unlocked, its SGSII all the way
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Who said the sgs2 on sprint is even true other than a random website. Certainly not sprint nor Samsung. Noone has a clue about what the phone would be or even changed with a slider. Its all rumors.
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I think this deserves a bump

tannerw_2010 said:
... would this still be the phone to get over the SGSII? I'm not talking about sense vs touchwiz, i'm talking about raw power. How would the two phones compare running a stable nearly identical CM7? Can anyone (NO BIAS please) explain to me which phone has better capabilities?
I know I'm getting WAYY ahead of myself, but i'm still deciding IF HTC responded to their customers and unlocked the bootloader if I would get the EVO 3D or still wait for the SGSII, considering I'm sticking with either one for the next two years.
I've heard people say the SGSII has better raw power-- on the SGSII forum
I've also heard the some of you on this forum say the EVO 3D is better. Obviously, there is some bias involved and one phone is more powerful than the other.
I actually have some hope that HTC might do something about the bootloader. If this is the case, I have a really tough decision on which phone to still get. As for now, if the bootloader remains unlocked, its SGSII all the way
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seriously why does it even matter? Say one phone is faster than the other. The specs are so close together that any speed difference would barley even be noticeable on a side by side. The difference would be nothing if you didn't have both phones in hand.
Really I think the biggest difference would be the UI, so debate sense vs touchwiz

Why does it matter what phone is faster?? Well thats a stupid question

more speeeeed! I need to open my yelp FASTER....FASTER!!!!! Ya. In the end I'd find a way to underclock the thing because battery life > all

No need for another thread: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ve-an-unlocked-bootloader-one-way-or-another/

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Why does it matter what phone is faster?? Well thats a stupid question
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No, it's a valid question and jessejames makes a very good point ... the specs are so close that any speed difference would be negligible from a user standpoint, especially if you're not actually doing a side-by-side comparison.
I'd even go so far as to say that the effective data rate differences between the various 4G transmission standards will have significantly more of an effect on apparent phone response times in many applications than any actual benchmark differences between the two phones.

I feel like the EVO 3d isn't much of an improvement over the EVO. Downgrade in camera department and no full 1080p recording. And still skimping on internal storage...not sure if the 3d screen is worth losing those other features....
I think ima wait for the sgs2 since the EVO 3d is the same as my EVO with a 3d screen and slightly better performance
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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more speeeeed! I need to open my yelp FASTER....FASTER!!!!! Ya. In the end I'd find a way to underclock the thing because battery life > all
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Both good points, lol.

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I feel like the EVO 3d isn't much of an improvement over the EVO. Downgrade in camera department and no full 1080p recording. And still skimping on internal storage...not sure if the 3d screen is worth losing those other features....
I think ima wait for the sgs2 since the EVO 3d is the same as my EVO with a 3d screen and slightly better performance
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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You my friend are as confused as confused can be.....u probably should read up on the phone because you aren't quite sure what the Evo 3d is, if you believe what you wrote.

phyba said:
I feel like the EVO 3d isn't much of an improvement over the EVO. Downgrade in camera department and no full 1080p recording. And still skimping on internal storage...not sure if the 3d screen is worth losing those other features....
I think ima wait for the sgs2 since the EVO 3d is the same as my EVO with a 3d screen and slightly better performance
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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Bump the processing power from 1Ghz to 1.2Ghz then double it, double the ram, bump the resolution to qHD, shoot 1080p in 2D, 720p in 3D, and that's not much of an upgrade from the original EVO?

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You my friend are as confused as confused can be.....u probably should read up on the phone because you aren't quite sure what the Evo 3d is, if you believe what you wrote.
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Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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put ya suit on there coming!!!!!

phyba said:
Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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I do believe you are just misinformed. The EVO is the Sensation just with 3d added. They both have a SLCD qhd display. Also, just because the Sensation's camera is 8mp does not mean it is better. The EVO is 8mp and the camera is much worse then many other phones that are 5mp.
You need to do some more research as far as MP's are concerned as well as the comparing the Sensation to the EVO 3d.
I believe I was very nice with my response. Other's might not be this kind to you. lol

phyba said:
Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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Your basing camera quality on MPs. That's your first mistake, HTC has stated the camera on the E3D is much improved over the original evo. Why? Better lens, hardware, etc. MPs don't matter as much as you would like to believe. The 5MP camera on the iPhone is a perfect example. More on board storage would be nice but with 32GB mSD available and 64GB on the way I'm not too worried about it. Storage has never been an issue for me in the past and it won't be in the future.
Tapa tapa tapa

OP, its going to come down to personal preference. Both of these phones have monstrous specs and will perform quote similarly. They both have rock star CPUs and GPUs and will be very closely matched in performance.
Tapa tapa tapa

Samsung's Hummingbird never stops to please us.
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phyba said:
Yea I believe what I wrote. I feel that HTC had to skimp out on **** to give us a 3d sscreen. If I could get the sensation on sprint then I'd get that. Better camera, more internal storage. Guess I'm not caught up in the 3d hype. Bought a 3d TV and only seen one movie in 3d on it.
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If you are even familiar with the actual specs--which it sounds like you definitely are not--then you have absolutely no understanding of what they mean.
This phone is a beast. Any performance difference between the two will be negligible bone-stock and even more negligible modded to the teeth.
Tell us, what did they "skimp out" on? The asynchronous dual core 1.2gHz cpu? The kick-ass new adreno gpu? the qHD screen that just so happens to also do 3D? A GIGABYTE of ram? Over a certain amount internal storage means absolutely nothing to anybody who knows better, and Evo3D is far past this amount.
Not to mention HTC build quality and dev community (now with official mfgr support). I would accuse you of holding specs in too high a regard over other more important things...but I don't think you even understand the specs enough to be doing that.
Someone gave you some koolaide and you drank it. You love koolaide.

phyba said:
After seeing the sgs2 vs HTC sensation it makes me wonder about the snapdragon processor....it doesn't compare in those performance test
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This is yet another portion of your mis-information. You realize the two screens have differing resolutions, correct? Not a little difference either, but a vast 35% pixel difference. The Adreno 220 is I believe more powerful then the SGS2's gpu, but is also doing 35% more work with the higher pixel count that qHD brings to the table.
Also, pure processing tests did not show the sensation as weaker, it got what, 46MFLOPS? Not to mention the dual core is much more efficient on battery life then the tegra2 was.
Your points are all invalid as you simply don't include all the variables that create the differences.
Edit: I want to add my post was not meant as a defense of the E3D, as I'm personally seriously considering the SGS2 solely for its slenderness. But when you see posts that full of one sided information and wrong conclusions it's only natural to respond.

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anyone see the htc sensation reviews? little disappointed?

Hey guys..I'm read almost everything on xda but rarely post. I've been following this phone and I am very excited about the 3d. I was happy to see reviews on the sensation since it is similar to the Evo 3d. Anyway I was a little underwhelmed. It seemed like the.phone wasn't optimized very well and it was a little buggy..pinch.to zoom was buggy on some videos..the viewing angles seemed bad even when compared to older HTC devices. I hate to say it but the gs2 seems more refined. I will never buy a Samsung so it hurts to say that..one positive thing is that the hardware is terrific on these phones and with the great devs on xda I'm sure they will smooth things out..I hope I'm wrong and that maybe the.reviews I saw were no indication on the e3d performance
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Hey guys..I'm read almost everything on xda but rarely post. I've been following this phone and I am very excited about the 3d. I was happy to see reviews on the sensation since it is similar to the Evo 3d. Anyway I was a little underwhelmed. It seemed like the.phone wasn't optimized very well and it was a little buggy..pinch.to zoom was buggy on some videos..the viewing angles seemed bad even when compared to older HTC devices. I hate to say it but the gs2 seems more refined. I will never buy a Samsung so it hurts to say that..one positive thing is that the hardware is terrific on these phones and with the great devs on xda I'm sure they will smooth things out..I hope I'm wrong and that maybe the.reviews I saw were no indication on the e3d performance
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I seen the review at engadget and like you I'm not that impressed hopefully to evo will be different. I bought the Nexus S 4G and I love it. If the evo 3d isn't much better I'm sticking with the nexus
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I'm inclined to agree. I'll have to wait and see/use the e3d before I make any final decisions. I'll definitely buy it, keeping it may be a different story.
Tapa tapa tapa
I think that this phone has a lot if potential but it may be up to xda to get it out of it..the CPU n gpu are arguably the best currently out so it must be software issues..I mean my evo moves just as fast as a lot the the things the sensation did In the videos...I figured there would be a night and day difference..I really think the software hasn't kept up with the hardware
I don't know but I think that is where the asynchronous part of the processor comes in, one processor to handle one task while the other is waiting for its own task. That is why you probably wont see a difference until you start running a whole bunch of things. If I am somewhat correct I believe that the developers here will be able to do something about it. (Kernels). It will probably be alot better a multi tasking when you are running alot of programs.
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Even better than the review is the first guys response about locked bootloaders and best yet is that HTC is "MARGINALLY" better than Samsung at looking after their customers.
That is one good looking phone though, IMO much more so than both the Evo 3D and the S2. With new hardware and software I'm not too worried about performance, using the stock software on the Evo now compared to when it was first released it's like using a completely different phone.
I definitely agree about the asychrynous cpu..a lot of these reviewers don't take that into account when saying that the sgs2 kicked the sensations ass on quadrant as well as other benchmarks.when its clear that the sensations chip is only working on one core...I'm not worried about cpu/gpu performance..I just hope the camera and qhd screen is up to snuff
Yes the sensation is def a looker..
The thing that I think is disappointing about the sensation is the design with the battery. Based on that I dont see how an extended life battery is possible which may not be a big deal for some but for the average user that doesnt do custom roms may have an issue with it if. Just my 2 cents. But the phone definitely looks good and feels even better in hand.
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I definitely agree about the asychrynous cpu..a lot of these reviewers don't take that into account when saying that the sgs2 kicked the sensations ass on quadrant as well as other benchmarks.when its clear that the sensations chip is only working on one core.
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Except that the Sensation was winning all of the CPU benchmarks. It's the GPU where the GS2 was kicking the Sensation's ass, although the Sensation is pushing 35% more pixels.
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Pocket post lol
Man, this phone could be a dual core turd and still be faster than my Hero.
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Man, this phone could be a dual core turd and still be faster than my Hero.
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Lol I know right, I'm getting this phone regardless I'm freaking tired of my hero.
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Lol I know right, I'm getting this phone regardless I'm freaking tired of my hero.
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Indeed. Laggy is Sense on the Hero. Even over clocked it's still laggy as crap.
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Indeed. Laggy is Sense on the Hero. Even over clocked it's still laggy as crap.
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I feel the same about my Evo, I swear its getting slower every day...I can't imagine how you guys must feel.
I had a hero a while back b4 my rooting days..I liked it at first ..but then it just got frustrating..on the other hand my evo is still really snappy..besides some graphically intensive games I still think it holds its own even vs the newer releases..the new dual core phones are the only ones that got my attention..BTW the benchmarks I was talking about was quadrant..the sensation was in the mid 2000's while the gs2 was in high 3000's. I thought that used both the cpu/gpu..that's why all those gs2 fans were user when they benchmarked the 8660 oc'd to 1.5 ghz and it whooped ass..again really don't matter unless it translates into a better user experience..
Why is it that in most reviews they never talk about battery life? To me that is one of the most important things in a phone. I want to know if I have to leave alone all day for it to last or can I use it a lot and get a day with it. I wish they would just do a real world test and review about battery life. Has anyone heard anything battery wise about this phone cuz if it's good should we expect the evo to be better
From.what I've seen it performed well as far as the battery goes..you should be able to get through an entire day with reasonable use..and your right the 3d should do better you would think with that large battery..anyone know if the screens are identicAL on these phones?
firmbiz94 said:
Hey guys..I'm read almost everything on xda but rarely post. I've been following this phone and I am very excited about the 3d. I was happy to see reviews on the sensation since it is similar to the Evo 3d. Anyway I was a little underwhelmed. It seemed like the.phone wasn't optimized very well and it was a little buggy..pinch.to zoom was buggy on some videos..the viewing angles seemed bad even when compared to older HTC devices. I hate to say it but the gs2 seems more refined. I will never buy a Samsung so it hurts to say that..one positive thing is that the hardware is terrific on these phones and with the great devs on xda I'm sure they will smooth things out..I hope I'm wrong and that maybe the.reviews I saw were no indication on the e3d performance
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I'm just asking what reviews are you basing this off of? I haven't seen one video, or review that was with the final product yet. Even the Video when the pphone was 1st announced, which I seem to think are some of the best they even say that it's far from finished. So unless someone knows someone that has a final product in their hand I think this is a little premature.

[General Rant] How quickly some forget...

This is in the general section, so I think I'm safe posting this, heh.
I'm going to start by saying this: I love my E3D. I left TMo before getting the Sensation to come back to Sprint for the Evo 3D. Locked bootloader or no, broken promises or no, this is the BADDEST device I've ever had my hands on!
That being said, yes, I'm more than a tad honked off @ HTC for tossing us BS/No answers for the bootloader unlocking issue, and have sent my emails to them in kind. I've been watching the Facebook/Twitter/Official Web sites since these shenanigans started, and what I see shocks me... People literally THREATENING HTC with things ranging from something as severe as hacking the company, to as minor as just returning their phones.
The worst I see though, are the threats to go with the Galaxy S2.
How quickly some forget the crap that Samsung was party to in regards to the Moment, the Epic/Vibrant/Captivate/Fascinate, and the Intercept. Did we all just blank out that time in our collective consciousness, the crap that was packaged as a Samsung device? How terrible they performed? How they kept promising phantom updates that would not show up at all or materialize, brick phones, then be pulled off the market? How they liked to fall apart and not work? The only Samsung device worth its salt, that I can see, is the Nexus S - and that's mostly because it was pure Google software.
Sure, the GS2 may have killer specs that make our Evo 3D's look like yesterday's garbage, but I've not once had ANY issue with my HTC devices from WM6 to Android - but I've had nothing but a terrible history with Sammy, and I know I'm not the only one.
So... IJS. My 2 cents on the whole issue - I hope it was coherent enough to make Sense (lolz)... pain killers for the back are a b****.
Edit: I just read the post with the HTC response that they WILL unlock the bootloader, so that's at least a step in the right direction..
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
I'm hoping every thread on the 1st page of the Evo 3d general forums is filled with complaining about bootloader's. Seems to be the trend.
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
s3nT Fr0m aN0tH3r dIm3nSi0n (EVO 3D)
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I didn't even know about the complaining on Facebook until I read this post...it all seems ridiculous. They announced they would unlock the bootloader probably well after the 3D went into final production. The update is coming, I have no doubt in my mind that it will.
That being said, however, one post kinda made me laugh a little: "Give us s-off or you can f-off."
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That did crack me up.
The complaining got them to step up and commit to unlock in the first place. That HTC page is going to be a warzone until they start systematically issuing the OTAs that will unlock these devices we paid for.
...and so far as the threats of buying Samsung, while I agree with you (except that the NexusS is somehow any better...same weak radios, my main concern), consumers should 'vote with their wallet' more often. Then companies might be a little more cautious about trying bull**** like this. Even if they provide a technically better product if it is not provided on terms you agree with (locked) or worse yet the company lies to you about future functionality...well...vote with your wallet. That's a language they'll understand.
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What might that be? Both have 1.2 ghz dual core cpus, and 1gb ram. Evo has QHD display vs Super Amoled Plus, 8mp with 1080p video vs 3D capture, Extra speed cuz of the lighter interface vs the awesomeness of Sense etc. I see them as very very close in specs and comparible in almost everything, its just which feature set interests you the most
Personally im head over heels happy with the E3D and i think i can wait a bit till the bootloader is unlocked
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I completely agree with you, and I stay away from everything Sammy usually, so I didn't fully realize how close the devices are hardware-wise.
I'm digging my 3d capability, and I think I've almost got it dialed-in.
All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Ive had SGS2 for two weeks. 3D actually is faster to me. Consistantly.
But camera? Nope. Not really close unfortunately.
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All I know is I compared my EVO 3d to my (rich) buddies unlocked galaxy s2. I prefer the EVO 3d screen, and this one is ever bit as fast. No questions....all you got to do is turn off the animations in display settings and the speed is instantaneous since it is bypassing the fading animation. Slap adw launcher and the phone is as fast as a phone can possibly be.
All things compared, camera as well, the EVO 3d excelled along side the gs2. My buddy....he is contemplating switching to sprint just for this phone.
All in all the gs2 appears fast because the touchwiz launcher is a barebone launcher....only cosmetic differences from vanilla...
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Really? Well I'm no camera expert. In the lab, which is all flourescent lighting....EVO 3d did spectacular.
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3D downgrade?

Simple question. How many of you are truly disappointed in the EVO 3D and consider it a downgrade to the original EVO? Why?
Edit:I'm not one of the people who think it is a downgrade. I have seen several people say it and I wanted to know why they think so.
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I'm very disapointed in the camera, (locking up, low light pics, missing features) force closes, and volume. I'd say its a downgrade as it stands right now.
It does kind of suck. I mean nothing that it does poorly, just not worth the money. It has almost no features over the Evo 4G and get much worse battery life. That and the charging port is in a stupid location. No HDMI meow, kind of. 4GB storage, what a laughable and BS spec. I do LOVe me some camera button though!
complete downgrade! more ram. twice the CPU power (in one core alone) better Res screen, 3d feature, slimmer, more battery life..... complete downgrade /sarcasm
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notown775 said:
complete downgrade! more ram. twice the CPU power (in one core alone) better Res screen, 3d feature, slimmer, more battery life..... complete downgrade /sarcasm
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+1 and a +lol to that
The EVO 3d is better than my OG EVO in every way possible.
Wow, I bet you think the EVO was a downgrade from the hero too.
USB port location blows. Aspect ratio blows. Stuck with Sense, which blows. Performance and battery life on par with my modded EVO4G, which was great on the 4G, but, for a new $700 phone blows...(I only paid $24)...The camera is better than the 4G, but still not stellar. 720p framerate still blows, though the audio is way better and in stereo...
But on the plus side? Now I have 2 cameras I'll never use on my phone, lockscreen is rad, and 3D headaches! Camera button is boss tho.
lol, srsly I love the phone...I can live with the charging port and I'll come to terms with the horrible aspect ratio thanks to the killer resolution...though that is what I hate the most.
...oh yeah, bootloadar sux0rz
dca1970 said:
I'm very disapointed in the camera, (locking up, low light pics, missing features) force closes, and volume. I'd say its a downgrade as it stands right now.
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But how my 3D takes way better pics than my Evo 4G ever did. Less noise as well.
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Your on meth
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Nope, painkillers
ls3mach said:
It does kind of suck. I mean nothing that it does poorly, just not worth the money. It has almost no features over the Evo 4G and get much worse battery life. That and the charging port is in a stupid location. No HDMI meow, kind of. 4GB storage, what a laughable and BS spec. I do LOVe me some camera button though!
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Interesting but I have to disagree with everything you posted here, except the camera button. I'm slightly bias because mine only cost me $50, but I still would have paid $200 for it. No features over the Evo 4G? Really?
notown775 said:
complete downgrade! more ram. twice the CPU power (in one core alone) better Res screen, 3d feature, slimmer, more battery life..... complete downgrade /sarcasm
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Not to mention upgraded wireless capabilities. The charging port location is subjective. Idk what "No HDMI meow" means but the charging port is compatible with an MHL adapter. And regardless of what is adverstised for the storage (that's another debate) what we actually get to use stock is about double what we got from the Evo 4G stock...
To all you clowns saying the camera is a downgrade from the 4g, take it up with this guy.
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/06/htc-evo-3d-vs-htc-evo-4g-2d-camera-comparison-forum-talk/
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But how my 3D takes way better pics than my Evo 4G ever did. Less noise as well.
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While I agree that's like saying "It's awesome! It comes with 33% less dog feces than the last model"
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The EVO 3d is better than my OG EVO in every way possible.
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This. Except maybe the kickstand thing, but I can get used to it.
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To all you clowns saying the camera is a downgrade from the 4g, take it up with this guy.
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/06/htc-evo-3d-vs-htc-evo-4g-2d-camera-comparison-forum-talk/
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Nah...something is wrong with his 4G. To be fair, so long as the lighting was good (or really good) my 4G took awesome pics. I understand the physics behind it so low-light pics looking like poo never really bothered me...
But, yeah, dude needs to wipe the 4G's lense...I've seen sharper pictures taken from inside a foggy otterbox defender.
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USB port location blows. Aspect ratio blows. Stuck with Sense, which blows. Performance and battery life on par with my modded EVO4G, which was great on the 4G, but, for a new $700 phone blows...(I only paid $24)...The camera is better than the 4G, but still not stellar. 720p framerate still blows, though the audio is way better and in stereo...
But on the plus side? Now I have 2 cameras I'll never use on my phone, lockscreen is rad, and 3D headaches! Camera button is boss tho.
lol, srsly I love the phone...I can live with the charging port and I'll come to terms with the horrible aspect ratio thanks to the killer resolution...though that is what I hate the most.
...oh yeah, bootloadar sux0rz
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I suggest returning your phone then, the performance is significantly better than the EVO 4G. I have the 3D and the 4G and the 3D is way better, especially with the battery. My dad has a EVO 3D and the thing lasts him all day with just browsing the internet and checking emails... I don't know how you are experiencing bad battery because mine has been awesome compared to my EVO 4G. If people are going to complain so much about the phone, then return it! Were all still under the 30 day return policy.
I'm tired of seeing these stupid complaints... Especially when people go out of their way to make a thread about it...
All these complaints are funny.
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I suggest returning your phone then, the performance is significantly better than the EVO 4G. I have the 3D and the 4G and the 3D is way better, especially with the battery. My dad has a EVO 3D and the thing lasts him all day with just browsing the internet and checking emails... I don't know how you are experiencing bad battery because mine has been awesome compared to my EVO 4G. If people are going to complain so much about the phone, then return it! Were all still under the 30 day return policy.
I'm tired of seeing these stupid complaints... Especially when people go out of their way to make a thread about it...
All these complaints are funny.
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i agree, but its with in there rights, its the general section
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i agree, but its with in there rights, its the general section
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True, but it is only polluting the forum. It's ridiculous because I see so many threads with complaints. I usually ignore them, but now it is just becoming annoying.
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I'm tired of seeing these stupid complaints... Especially when people go out of their way to make a thread about it...
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Well I'm sorry. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. I started this thread because I was curious as to why people were saying they preferred their original EVO better. I love my new phone and am sane enough to know that it's an upgrade lol. I just wanted others' opinions
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Evo3d vs photon?

Hi guys, I currently have photon which I do like. I I hate motoblur, and end up rooting it and removing sprint bloat, installing different launcher, sms app, keyboard as photons stock offering is very much lacking.
Now, I always love custom roms which makes phone snapper, and right now, photon doesn't really have much to offer as far as dev goes at all... Specially due to unlocking method which kills 4g and so much workaround required to get it working.
I have an opportunity to trade my photon in for an evo3d. As far as raw performance gods, which is better? Is tegra chip much better than the dual core in the evo? I know that with the evo there is much more development going on to say the least, but is the device pretty comparable performance wise? Isn't photons display a little richer? Even though both are qhd?
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Im going to give the best opinion before a battle breaks out. Go with whichever one your happier with. There both good phones.
Free Dirk!!!
The display on the EVO looks better in my opinion because if you look close at the photon it gets all colored its the pentile display. You will get mixed results about which phone has more raw power. The biggest differences are 3d vs global. The EVO also has an asynchronous processor and the photon doesn't. It's preference. Personally if I need my phone to last I can get a good 17 hours so I don't know if battery life is that important. But a lot of people saythat the photon is faster. I couldn't give you a verdict on that. They are both great phones.
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knowledge561 said:
Im going to give the best opinion before a battle breaks out. Go with whichever one your happier with. There both good phones.
Free Dirk!!!
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Well said knowledge. I think we all know how this thread will end up.
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Could care less about gsm on the device, i like build quality of the evo, but I want something with better potential, performance, and display.
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The display on the EVO looks better in my opinion because if you look close at the photon it gets all colored its the pentile display. You will get mixed results about which phone has more raw power. The biggest differences are 3d vs global. The EVO also has an asynchronous processor and the photon doesn't. It's preference. Personally if I need my phone to last I can get a good 17 hours so I don't know if battery life is that important. But a lot of people saythat the photon is faster. I couldn't give you a verdict on that. They are both great phones.
boom!! from my shooter
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Funny that a thread with this same title got locked about a week ago. Compare development pages too. Your answer is clear.
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Could care less about gsm on the device, i like build quality of the evo, but I want something with better potential, performance, and display.
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The display on the EVO is better. Again performance is a toss up. Ive seen very convincing results of the EVO heaving the more powerful processor but many people argue for the tegra two. You'll be pretty good either way.
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ok?
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Funny that a thread with this same title got locked about a week ago. Compare development pages too. Your answer is clear.
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+1 just compare development page.
Whichever one you have is the best
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The display on the EVO is better. Again performance is a toss up. Ive seen very convincing results of the EVO heaving the more powerful processor but many people argue for the tegra two. You'll be pretty good either way.
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As a owner of both.
Display: the 3D has a slightly crisper display but even with the brightness all the way down the Photon is still view-able in sunlight. Even with the brightness all the way up the 3D the screen is barely usable.
Battery: the Photon is heads and shoulders above the 3D. I'm a heavy user and was able to get more than a day worth of usage.
Radio: Photon wins here again. Locks and stays connected to 4G, 3G and voice signals much better than the 3D. The 3D would always drop connection on me whenever I tried downloading larger files.
Performance: Quadrant scores don't mean much but I consistently got around 2700 on the Photon running at stock speeds. The 3D only got 2200 max at stock speeds, the only time I got 2700-3000 I had to be overclocked at around 1.5Ghz. Remember the photon is only running at 1Ghz ( no overclocking available yet )
Sense vs. Blur: Sense adds a lot of apps and additional functionality but I do not use much if any of it, so for me it's just bloat. I prefer to replace rosie with Launcher Pro. The HTC gallery would never load my picasa album but the Photon's gallery loads my pics fine.
I never used the 3D functionality on the 3D but missed the kickstand on my OG Evo so the kickstand on the Photon is a welcome sight for sore eyes. The kickstand works in every orientation except upside down.
I travel over seas a lot so the gsm roaming is also a great addition.
Before either device launched the Photon was my original choice but being a gadget geek like most of you here, I caved and got the Evo 3D because it launched first.
There you have it, my summation of the features specs that are important for me.
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As a owner of both.
Display: the 3D has a slightly crisper display but even with the brightness all the way down the Photon is still view-able in sunlight. Even with the brightness all the way up the 3D the screen is barely usable.
Battery: the Photon is heads and shoulders above the 3D. I'm a heavy user and was able to get more than a day worth of usage.
Radio: Photon wins here again. Locks and stays connected to 4G, 3G and voice signals much better than the 3D. The 3D would always drop connection on me whenever I tried downloading larger files.
Performance: Quadrant scores don't mean much but I consistently got around 2700 on the Photon running at stock speeds. The 3D only got 2200 max at stock speeds, the only time I got 2700-3000 I had to be overclocked at around 1.5Ghz. Remember the photon is only running at 1Ghz ( no overclocking available yet )
Sense vs. Blur: Sense adds a lot of apps and additional functionality but I do not use much if any of it, so for me it's just bloat. I prefer to replace rosie with Launcher Pro. The HTC gallery would never load my picasa album but the Photon's gallery loads my pics fine.
I never used the 3D functionality on the 3D but missed the kickstand on my OG Evo so the kickstand on the Photon is a welcome sight for sore eyes. The kickstand works in every orientation except upside down.
I travel over seas a lot so the gsm roaming is also a great addition.
Before either device launched the Photon was my original choice but being a gadget geek like most of you here, I caved and got the Evo 3D because it launched first.
There you have it, my summation of the features specs that are important for me.
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Nicely stated, if I wasn't getting the sgs2 next week, I'd grab a photon because of this. Lol
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Go with whichever phone meats ur needs!
Here's a screen cap of my battery usage
And I still have 30% to go.
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five40 said:
Go with whichever phone meats ur needs!
Here's a screen cap of my battery usage
And I still have 30% to go.
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From that shot it looks as if you don't hardly use your phone at all.
Your phone idle is using twice the battery your screen is using.
felacio said:
From that shot it looks as if you don't hardly use your phone at all.
Your phone idle is using twice the battery your screen is using.
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He's also got 4g on. :|
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Go with whichever phone meats ur needs!
Here's a screen cap of my battery usage
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felacio said:
From that shot it looks as if you don't hardly use your phone at all.
Your phone idle is using twice the battery your screen is using.
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That's because I turn backlighting all the way down.
The screen is still bright enough.
I thought about it too. I switched to sprint from Verizon. I had a Droid x and decided to go with an evidence 3d. I had it over night and took it back and got a photon. It's way better than the evo. I'm not one for htc's sense stuff. The speaker is louder on the photon, camera seems better, and the phone is lite weight. I also like the trimmed edges
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Sprint is throwing all their money into marketing for the Evo 3D but the Photon is a better phone bar none. The Photon would be a beast if it had the dev support like the Evo 3D.
Even without the dev support the Photon is still better.
I'm rooted but the bootloader is still locked so no real modding/customization as yet.
I have 30 days to decide but I think my mind is already made up.
The Evo 3D almost made me switch to Verizon, that's how bad it's radio issues were for me.
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Sprint is throwing all their money into marketing for the Evo 3D but the Photon is a better phone bar none. The Photon would be a beast if it had the dev support like the Evo 3D.
Even without the dev support the Photon is still better.
I'm rooted but the bootloader is still locked so no real modding/customization as yet.
I have 30 days to decide but I think my mind is already made up.
The Evo 3D almost made me switch to Verizon, that's how bad it's radio issues were for me.
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Wow, the issues you have or had make no sense. HTC radios are updated and improved more often and faster than any others I've seen. Price for the photon already droppped a hundred bucks at bestbuy. The only feature the photon has that I'm jelous of is the dock to t.v. control. Other than that laggy and and the too much plastic feel are overwhelming for such a high end phone.
And their off!!!!
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Isn't evo really that fast?

Hi all,
I have won an iphone 4 16gb from a lottery and i think i'll get it in second half of january. As you imagine i'll sell it and buy a high end android device. I absolutely want to buy evo 3d because of its ram but here someone offers me sensation. In Turkey, evo 3d is about $100-150 cheaper than sensation. I know evo has more ram than the other. So it should be faster because they have the same cpu and gpu... But why is this cheaper and why does somebody say it isn't really that fast? Please help me to persuade myself to get an evo
By the way, goodbye desire z
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I don't know who told you the Evo 3D "isn't really that fast" but...
1.2ghz dual-core cpu stock (mine is OC'ed to 1.5ghz) Snapdragon S3
1gb RAM
And the Adreno 220 GPU
Although those are just specs that anyone can look up, they're on par with almost every other highend smartphone out there right now. I'm running an experimental ICS rom and it's smooth as ****. It's not even in the final stages yet, so that says something.
It's cheaper because it didn't sell as anticipated.
I've gotten 4500 quads and linpack scores topping 108+ so yeah not that fast.
Wtf.
No its fast as hell and will do some serious multitasking with a gig of ram. Most evo 3ds can handle an overclock up to 1.782ghz the fact alone that the factory1.2ghz clock speed is actually detuned from the factory specs of 1.5ghz so technically "overclocking" to 1.5 is pretty damn near not overclocking.
I would say go for the 3d if you want the better phone.
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With Root and OC cpu I get around 95-105 mflops on cpu and if I really crank it up around 3300+ on quad standard scores. It is super fast
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It's cheaper because it didn't sell as anticipated.
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Thank you all to reply but i wonder why it didn't sell too much? It seems evo 3d has better sprecifications than sensation...
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And because gsm phones sale more then cdma
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The sensation is much more thin than the 3d
zadias said:
The sensation is much more thin than the 3d
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Is this a reason to buy a sensation?
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
Is this a reason to buy a sensation?
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Works for apple.
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Sensation has a much better camera, and is thinner. But the extra ram does make the 3d feel much faster. Atleast when I played with them both I didn't think the sensation felt any faster than my epic 4g, but I noticed quite a difference when I used the 3d. Both stock of course when I played with them. If you need a really clear camera then its the sensation you need. Other than that the 3d is the way I went because I have sprint, and because it seamed so much quicker.
Evo 3D taking it to Redline V2!
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Sensation has a much better camera, and is thinner. But the extra ram does make the 3d feel much faster. Atleast when I played with them both I didn't think the sensation felt any faster than my epic 4g, but I noticed quite a difference when I used the 3d. Both stock of course when I played with them. If you need a really clear camera then its the sensation you need. Other than that the 3d is the way I went because I have sprint, and because it seamed so much quicker.
Evo 3D taking it to Redline V2!
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I can't remember when i used camera of my desire z last. So it is not problem if a device has only a vga camera. But i want to play games smoothly as it can be. Yesterday i visited a technology market a had a chance to try evo 3d. Unfortunately i couldn't find a wifi network so couldn't install any 3d game to play... Everything was ok with its stock rom but i want to have a red back side although they have yellow back side
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Having both of these phones myself, I have to say that at this moment in time the sensation has better rom's which give better performance than the EVO3D, which is a shame because i always thought the evo would spank the sensation, and on paper it does, but the user experience so far with the evo has been disappointing on the evo when compared to the sensation, i don't do benchmarks because quite frankly it doesn't mean ****, the user experience is everything and from what i've seen the evo has a little bit of catching up to do.
I've still got 11 days to return my evo and get either a galaxy nexus or an XL, I'm a fan of HTC Sense so i am dragging my heels on switching devices, i just hope the dev's can pull out the roms which the guys doing the sensation have.
I'm running Insert Coin at the moment, probably the fastest sense rom on the sensation, alas it doesn't seem to cut the mustard on the EVO, my DHD is smoother than this with only one core.
I've unlocked both cores and i'm using the anthrax kernel v2.
If you want to know what i mean, then just swipe the carousel around and right at the end you will see jitters and stuttering, the sensation doesn't do this, if the evo was as smooth as the sensation is then it would be a no brainer, but at the moment it's just not the case.
Oh and for anyone about to say putting a senseless rom on their evo is smooth, well yea it is, but i didn't buy the evo to live without sense, i could have got a galaxy nexus for that.
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Having both of these phones myself, I have to say that at this moment in time the sensation has better rom's which give better performance than the EVO3D, which is a shame because i always thought the evo would spank the sensation, and on paper it does, but the user experience so far with the evo has been disappointing on the evo when compared to the sensation, i don't do benchmarks because quite frankly it doesn't mean ****, the user experience is everything and from what i've seen the evo has a little bit of catching up to do.
I've still got 11 days to return my evo and get either a galaxy nexus or an XL, I'm a fan of HTC Sense so i am dragging my heels on switching devices, i just hope the dev's can pull out the roms which the guys doing the sensation have.
I'm running Insert Coin at the moment, probably the fastest sense rom on the sensation, alas it doesn't seem to cut the mustard on the EVO, my DHD is smoother than this with only one core.
I've unlocked both cores and i'm using the anthrax kernel v2.
If you want to know what i mean, then just swipe the carousel around and right at the end you will see jitters and stuttering, the sensation doesn't do this, if the evo was as smooth as the sensation is then it would be a no brainer, but at the moment it's just not the case.
Oh and for anyone about to say putting a senseless rom on their evo is smooth, well yea it is, but i didn't buy the evo to live without sense, i could have got a galaxy nexus for that.
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You made me confused, thank you
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
You made me confused, thank you
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In short, the EVO is a better phone, however if you plan to flash a rom, which i think you will, then at the moment the sensation is ahead, but that will probably change.
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In short, the EVO is a better phone, however if you plan to flash a rom, which i think you will, then at the moment the sensation is ahead, but that will probably change.
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I think I will buy an evo 3d...
Hardware wise, Evo3D trumps Sensation. It's just how it was marketed.
During that time, this section was flooded with assholes who were arguing newer phones like the sgs and other non-related phones with superior specifications and ROM support that it kind of killed it's tractions here (not excluding the babies who kept killing dev support here because of there constant demands for things they had no right to push since they weren't helping with the code).
On the outside, it was the best at release, but the competitors were selling their latest phones that weren't even available, and the end results was that people waited for them.
So now you see them trying to get rid of there stock in preparation for the next big thing. I still love my phone. I came from the Hero and knew what specs I was looking for. If we could get ICS running on that little machine, my horizon for this phone was, and still is, grand. It's capabilities will last me well into the next phase of phones until I'm forced to get a new one that will accommodate the new change in cellular frequencies.
the Evo 3d would be great coming from the DHD, IMO,
I just got my 3d a coupole months ago, upgraded from the original EVO 4G, I could have gotten any phone, or even waited for some of the new ones im sure sprint will release in the next 3ish months, and I am completely satisified, I find my phone to be rediculously fast, It takes whatever i throw at it with ease, especially when I have anthrax kernels.
And I feel like once the 3D officially gets ICS, things are just going to get faster and smoother..

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