Md5?sum - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Do they have to match in order to flash a Rom? What's the purpose of the md5 sum?!
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sheathunderboilt said:
Do they have to match in order to flash a Rom? What's the purpose of the md5 sum?!
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The MD5 sum is a type of checksum used to verify a file's integrity. It's a very good thing for them to match on a ROM, however, if they don't and you still flash it you won't brick your device. It probably won't work right either. When flashing a radio, you should always check them because a bad radio can brick your device.

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Is that what Rom stats is for? Under unique ID is that my md5? So since you say they need to match , how can i find a Rom that does match?
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sheathunderboilt said:
Is that what Rom stats is for? Under unique ID is that my md5? So since you say they need to match , how can i find a Rom that does match?
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md5sum is command line application and has nothing to do with that. It does no good to see what the md5 of something is AFTER it's loaded onto your phone and installed, since by then you already figure out if it worked or not.

I may just throw my TB away I was in recovery and tried to do a current back up and when the fake back up was done it says error generating md5 sum, can't wait to get a 16GB New SD card or 32 and see wtf is up with my TB, I'm done trying to flash a Rom especially when i can't back up my current rom F!!!ing nuts
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sheathunderboilt said:
I may just throw my TB away I was in recovery and tried to do a current back up and when the fake back up was done it says error generating md5 sum, can't wait to get a 16GB New SD card or 32 and see wtf is up with my TB, I'm done trying to flash a Rom especially when i can't back up my current rom F!!!ing nuts
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What version of clockwork are you using?

sheathunderboilt said:
I may just throw my TB away I was in recovery and tried to do a current back up and when the fake back up was done it says error generating md5 sum, can't wait to get a 16GB New SD card or 32 and see wtf is up with my TB, I'm done trying to flash a Rom especially when i can't back up my current rom F!!!ing nuts
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What version of clockwork are you on?

4.0.1.5.
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What version should i use?
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That one shouldn't be giving you problems as long as you are NOT using ROM Manager.
I mean this in the nicest way possible but I think you need to do some serious reading up and googling and get yourself well versed in android and HTC devices specifically. It takes some time and dedication but it will save you tons of headaches in the future.
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Hey I understand what you saying and I'm a big of R.I.F. BUT I think its my SD card Really , so I'm going to get a new one cuz my SD card is tripping out on me its not saving none of my pics
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sheathunderboilt said:
Hey I understand what you saying and I'm a big of R.I.F. BUT I think its my SD card Really , so I'm going to get a new one cuz my SD card is tripping out on me its not saving none of my pics
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I think that's probably a good direction to go in.

And I don't mess with Rom manger at all !!!!! But thanks for all your help really.
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Hey guys do u happen to know what could of cuz this sd card to bug out like that!?
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So in the future i can learn from my mistske if it's something I did when it comes to downloading a rom
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sheathunderboilt said:
So in the future i can learn from my mistske if it's something I did when it comes to downloading a rom
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I've never had one completely take a crap on me, but I've had the SDcard become corrupted multiple times. SDcards are based on NAND memory, and NAND isn't even remotely reliable. Cells die in it all the time. It's so unreliable that every NAND device is manufactured with a certain percentage of dead cells, and every NAND device has logic built onto it to manage it's steady rate of failure. Usually the card itself can manage and recover data from a few lost cells, but from time to time it can't. Nothing using NAND memory technology should be considered fail-safe. That would include SDcards, MMC cards, eMMC like that which is built onto the phone, and USB thumb drives.
You can't really prevent an SDcard from going to hell. It happens. Buy ones that carry a warranty is about as good as you can do. Running ultra-low voltages on your device aren't going to help reliability either. No download should cause it to fail though.

Thanks loon!!! Well hopefully this week I can get back to flashing a rom cuz das bamf sense 3.0 RC 4.9 is a very boring rom,wish MIUI was for the TB
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sheathunderboilt said:
Thanks loon!!! Well hopefully this week I can get back to flashing a rom cuz das bamf sense 3.0 RC 4.9 is a very boring rom,wish MIUI was for the TB
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Try BAMF Forever. I read good things about it all over the place.

Yeah I went to their forum heck I even registered and was reading on it and u right its sounds good!! hey my corrupt SD card is 32GB does it matter if I get a 16GB
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Need Help, Wifes About To Kill Me!

Ok, so my card still had a radio img on the root, and I ran into some issues and needed to boot straight into recovery, but it kept trying to flash the radio. So I threw my memory card in her phone and deleted the file and put the memory cards back in each respective TB.
Now she's getting a **** ton of app force closes. Can someone help me before she castrates me please. lol... seriously. lol
I did a quick search and didn't see anything, but with my balls on the line, I don't have very long to figure this out...
Thanks!!!!
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Ok, so my card still had a radio img on the root, and I ran into some issues and needed to boot straight into recovery, but it kept trying to flash the radio. So I threw my memory card in her phone and deleted the file and put the memory cards back in each respective TB.
Now she's getting a **** ton of app force closes. Can someone help me before she castrates me please. lol... seriously. lol
I did a quick search and didn't see anything, but with my balls on the line, I don't have very long to figure this out...
Thanks!!!!
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Tell her to calm down.
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Nikolai2.1 said:
Tell her to calm down.
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That was ineffective... lol
Wipe cache/dalvik
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Wipe cache/dalvik
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Tried that, no luck.
If she is rooted download Rom manager and select fix permissions or flash stock Rom again
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bmfluitt1984 said:
If she is rooted download Rom manager and select fix permissions or flash stock Rom again
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I had to reflash the stock rom. Can't try the fix permissions to see if that works as shes sitting over my shoulder until I've "fixed" it and she just wants her phone back.
Yeah, Breaking the wifes phone is def. a no win. Good Luck!!
Lol to good now i bet she said ull never mess with her phone again and stormed off
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She sounds abusive...does she hit you?
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higabyte said:
Tried that, no luck.
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For some reason telling them to calm down always has the opposite effect.
Thanks, Robertus
Need more info... Are we talking about the manual update from VZW or we talking about a rooted phone trying to flash update a newer radio? If the later are you using a custom ROM?
Weird, she's getting a ton of app force closes after swapping SD cards for a second? Is it possible that your phone wiped out the Move to SD Apps on the SD card? If that's the case, just having her uninstall/reinstall the apps that were moved to the SD card should do it. I did this one accidentally, didn't get any FCs but did get a ton of "application not found."
I don't know why taking out the SD card would cause FCs because technically that's what happens every time you plug your computer into the wall.
If she's rooted - just re-install her rom (without wiping data) - see if that helps.
Gotta love white women. lol

No longer

Can I get in into recovery all l can do is reboot this phone. does this means my TB IS some what brick ?F! ROM M.
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Are you a troll?
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JBO1018 said:
Are you a troll?
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Na... he's straight. But his questions confuse me sometimes. Like this one.
What happened that led to this?
loonatik78 said:
Na... he's straight. But his questions confuse me sometimes. Like this one.
What happened that led to this?
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Ok cool. Sorry Sheathunderboilt wasn't trying to be a jerk. I was just starting to wonder if the confusing wording of the questions was intentional.
Anyway, I think your going to have to provide a little more info before anyone can be of much help.
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Troll I may be ugly but I'm no Cop if thats what u asking homie,& thanks loon!!& sorry my question are off!!! but this is simple i can't into recovery via Rom manager which I deleted !!!!!! Cuz the new update put me in this Hole
!! I can't even do a factory reset,I go right to boot loader when i but don't worry i will get another TB and rooted and start from SCRATCH
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But i really wanna get into recovery cuz i have das bamf uber preview3 that I wanna flash but i can't I've done everything , battery pull!!!!, flash older version of of recoveries & nothing works
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Have you tried turning the phone off then holding volume down + power untill the bootloader screen appears and then manually selecting recovery? ROM Manager tends to have issues.
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Yeah I did do that!& when i do the HTC pops up and goes right back to boot loader
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It's killing me cuz nothing is helping me
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reinstall rom manager and flash one ot the older cwm like the 4.0.1.5 not the 5.x.x.x
Try reflashing Clockwork recovery by following the instructions in [url="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386]this[/url] thread. It sounds like your recovery got screwed up or wiped out somehow. Use version 5.0.2.1. I think the version 5 issues are fixed in that one. If you still have issues try using one of the version 4.x ones.
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Thanks guys I did it and got my phone and just FYI version five don't work on my tb so I will stay away from ROM manager!!!!! I still couldn't do a back up in recovery cuz it says error on restoring boot image ,once!again o beloved my SD card corrupt
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Oops meant to say i belive that my SD card is corrupt
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SD Card Issues

I dont know if this has been addressed but i am having problems downloading ROMS and things from xda. Keeps telling me file is unsupported. If there is a fix can someone please point me in the right direction or any info would be much appreciated. Thanks and sgain sorry if this has been answered
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Download astro file manager. After install open application and click file manager. Then hit ur phones menu button and choose preference. Scroll to bottom till u see enable browser download and check it. U can then exit application. Should work now. That's how I fixed issue on my photon.
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Thanks ill give it a shot.
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You aren't using a computer at all to snag ROM's and such?
Hello everyone, first post since joining. I have a 16GB SD CARD which was partitioned for use in my previous phone (HUAWEI ASCEND running CM7.2 which had DT'S A2SD incorporated into the ROM, partition size of 1GB & 32 swap).
My question is this :
As I am still stock & un-rooted,is their any added benefit to leaving the partitioning in place or should I delete the partition. THX!
BTW, I've had the phone for only a week & still getting acclimated w/it, will probably root sometime later, very pleased w/the overall performance @ this point.
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I don't see a reason to keeping it as CM7 for a different device won't work on the Photon. But that's just me. So it's basically a partition of information that is not usable.
I was not near a comp at the moment but wanted to download something for later use. I usually use my laptop. But that method worked so thanks for the help. Medic
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I gotcha Man. Just had to ask.
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rbgotee784 said:
I was not near a comp at the moment but wanted to download something for later use. I usually use my laptop. But that method worked so thanks for the help. Medic
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Glad it worked for Ya.
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Problems with boot manager.

everytime I try to instal a new Rom it says error creating boot.img Idk why
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Bump the old boot manager thread. There's lots of help in there. But when I had your issue I ended up just clearing data, cache and rebooting. Then try again. And most of us have the best luck with boot manager lite.
Rezzy
Try using the nandroid as an install that worked for me
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you need more space on your storage that you are using
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you need more space on your storage that you are using
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Not the case in my experience I have a 64gig sd and it still gave me that error
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Squirrel1620 said:
Not the case in my experience I have a 64gig sd and it still gave me that error
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I have had that error over and over and over and over and over...
reinstalled 10 times and a different problem everytime, once it works it doesn't complete the install.
nothing seems to work, been trying adrenaline and miui, but same error, log calls for edit.sh and it didn't have the correct permission to execute, so i changed it and still same error.
emailed the devs, no response. all i can say is I am extremely glad I didn't waste any money on this crappy app.
I've never made it work on external SD. It will always fail with that error message. It works great on internal for me. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the SD card class (I'm using a class 4), but I only need two slots (Phone ROM and slot 1), so I'm fine with using internal for it.
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I've never made it work on external SD. It will always fail with that error message. It works great on internal for me. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the SD card class (I'm using a class 4), but I only need two slots (Phone ROM and slot 1), so I'm fine with using internal for it.
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Internal works for me too, external.. No bueno.
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I only had that issue once when trying to use that app. All I did to fix it was go into Superuser Settings and disable logging like the app site says, and it worked from there on perfectly. In fact I'm still using it.
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I only had that issue once when trying to use that app. All I did to fix it was go into Superuser Settings and disable logging like the app site says, and it worked from there on perfectly. In fact I'm still using it.
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I forgot that part! True.
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Not the case in my experience I have a 64gig sd and it still gave me that error
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well I got that error constantly when I had even 4gb left on my internal but after deleting some things it worked fine
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I forgot that part! True.
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I will try internal, but for some reason I can't use usb file transfer, it always says insert disk, but uninstall and it works fine.
My sdcard is almost completely empty and su has logging off and grant set, only toast enabled.
hope it works and I can use the mount as disk again.
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wow my first install complete! using a nandroid, thanks for the tip.
I retract calling this app crappy.
Don't mean to necro but I still can't sem to get it to work. Are there any other Rom managing apps that are compatible with amon ra?
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Don't mean to necro but I still can't sem to get it to work. Are there any other Rom managing apps that are compatible with amon ra?
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This is the only app of its kind
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This is the only app of its kind
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damn well no matter what i try it always says it has a error building new boot.img This even happens when i try to install from a nandroid.
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damn well no matter what i try it always says it has a error building new boot.img This even happens when i try to install from a nandroid.
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you probably don't have enough space left to make one big enough that causes that as well
Just checking. Have you tried to boot the Rom in question? I've gotten that before and the Rom booted fine. Possible that I was just lucky though
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Yea it won't even let me boot it. it says there is no Rom installed
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stuck in twrp with no OS!?HELP PLEASE!

I went to update to beans build 17 and i might have had a bad download.says unable to open zip.i made a nandroid but some how wiped it out that i can't restore it.So now i have no OS.Iredownloaded another mirror on my laptop but how do i put it on my sd card now that im stuck in twrp?i just need my phone up and running asap as i have to go to work in2hrs!?Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!THANKS
i did the same thing you can either do a adb push if you have adb set up or find another phone camera pc or anything really that has a micro sd slot that you can connect to pc drag zip there reboot into twrp and your good if you don't have one then i would say adb push is your only option or see if twrp will mount your sd but it didn't for me
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I went to update to beans build 17 and i might have had a bad download.says unable to open zip.i made a nandroid but some how wiped it out that i can't restore it.So now i have no OS.Iredownloaded another mirror on my laptop but how do i put it on my sd card now that im stuck in twrp?i just need my phone up and running asap as i have to go to work in2hrs!?Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED!THANKS
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Pull the battery or use thr Power Off button in TWRP. Then put your micro Sd card in your laptop and drag and drop the rom. Then put it back in your card and go.
You are supposed to check the MD5sum EVERY SINGLE TIME! If you arent going to check the MD5sum then you don't need to flash any roms to your phone, you can seriously mess up and hard brick your phone.
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Bfitz26 said:
i did the same thing you can either do a adb push if you have adb set up or find another phone camera pc or anything really that has a micro sd slot that you can connect to pc drag zip there reboot into twrp and your good if you don't have one then i would say adb push is your only option or see if twrp will mount your sd but it didn't for me
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Thanks.Im tryin to find someonethat has a phone to do that now !!thank u.if not i will look to see how to try the push thing!
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Pull the battery or use thr Power Off button in TWRP. Then put your micro Sd card in your laptop and drag and drop the rom. Then put it back in your card and go.
You are supposed to check the MD5sum EVERY SINGLE TIME! If you arent going to check the MD5sum then you don't need to flash any roms to your phone, you can seriously mess up and hard brick your phone.
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Ya i got sloppy this time and paid for it!don't think my laptop has a slot for a memory card that i can see
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Ya i got sloppy this time and paid for it!don't think my laptop has a slot for a memory card that i can see
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do u have a digital camera or a card reader or anything that has a micro sd slot for that matter
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do u have a digital camera or a card reader or anything that has a micro sd slot for that matter
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Not at th emoment.im working on it !lol
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Ya i got sloppy this time and paid for it!don't think my laptop has a slot for a memory card that i can see
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Usually they will have a fake card in them to keep the slot from getting dust in it. If you truly don't have one you can pick up a USB SD card reader from walmart for cheap. If you want dont want to go that route then ADB would probably be the fastest way of doing it.
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shangrila500 said:
Pull the battery or use thr Power Off button in TWRP. Then put your micro Sd card in your laptop and drag and drop the rom. Then put it back in your card and go.
You are supposed to check the MD5sum EVERY SINGLE TIME! If you arent going to check the MD5sum then you don't need to flash any roms to your phone, you can seriously mess up and hard brick your phone.
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I honestly don't remember the last time I checked md5. I only check them on radios. A bad rom file cannot hard brick your phone. But a modem can
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I finally got some time to say thank u all for the ideas and info! I'm happy to say all is good. Used my friends phone with my sd card and redownloaded the room and it worked perfect! What a relief!Thanks again! !
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I honestly don't remember the last time I checked md5. I only check them on radios. A bad rom file cannot hard brick your phone. But a modem can
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A bad rom download hard bricked quite a few VZW S3's when I was using the S3, they may not brick the N2 but they have been known to brick phones.
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I am not sure how that is possible in my experience it says failed. Redownload flash problem solved indoor have force check md5 tho
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I am not sure how that is possible in my experience it says failed. Redownload flash problem solved indoor have force check md5 tho
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Anytime I've tried flashing a bad rom file it will just say failed. No flash occurs. That's just my experience I guess
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Anytime I've tried flashing a bad rom file it will just say failed. No flash occurs. That's just my experience I guess
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Anytime I've tried flashing a bad rom file it will just say failed. No flash occurs. That's just my experience I guess
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That's always been my experience also but recall quite a few help threads that started with someone flashing a rom and then the phone hard bricking upon reboot. Every single time in those threads where all that had been done was a simple rom flash the only thing we could come up with was the MD5 was bad and every time it was checked it was bad. If I recall it was only 2 roms doing that and both were AOSP roms. I dont know why but that was always what it was traced back to with those 2 certain roms and no one could figure out why it wasn't simply failing instead of flashing and hard bricking the phone.
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That's always been my experience also but recall quite a few help threads that started with someone flashing a rom and then the phone hard bricking upon reboot. Every single time in those threads where all that had been done was a simple rom flash the only thing we could come up with was the MD5 was bad and every time it was checked it was bad. If I recall it was only 2 roms doing that and both were AOSP roms. I dont know why but that was always what it was traced back to with those 2 certain roms and no one could figure out why it wasn't simply failing instead of flashing and hard bricking the phone.
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Maybe they flashed on Odin haha
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shangrila500 said:
Pull the battery or use thr Power Off button in TWRP. Then put your micro Sd card in your laptop and drag and drop the rom. Then put it back in your card and go.
You are supposed to check the MD5sum EVERY SINGLE TIME! If you arent going to check the MD5sum then you don't need to flash any roms to your phone, you can seriously mess up and hard brick your phone.
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I haven't checked an MD5 since 2010 - did it once then.
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shangrila500 said:
That's always been my experience also but recall quite a few help threads that started with someone flashing a rom and then the phone hard bricking upon reboot. Every single time in those threads where all that had been done was a simple rom flash the only thing we could come up with was the MD5 was bad and every time it was checked it was bad. If I recall it was only 2 roms doing that and both were AOSP roms. I dont know why but that was always what it was traced back to with those 2 certain roms and no one could figure out why it wasn't simply failing instead of flashing and hard bricking the phone.
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We're also going off what they say in the thread. We can't prove that is what did it. I'm trying to be nice, but most of those "oh shhh" panic threads are due to user error.
I've flashed so many ROMs over the years and I never check MD5. I also religiously dirty-flash. I've bricked phones half-asleep (putting my kid to sleep) and recovered them in the morning. It all boils down to the user. I'm not saying for people to be reckless, but blaming not checking an MD5 on a brick is fear-mongering.
If it doesn't flash the first time? Check to see if your recovery has an update. Redownload ROM. Try again. Fail twice? Wasn't meant to be, this is not the ROM you are looking for.
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shangrila500 said:
Pull the battery or use thr Power Off button in TWRP. Then put your micro Sd card in your laptop and drag and drop the rom. Then put it back in your card and go.
You are supposed to check the MD5sum EVERY SINGLE TIME! If you arent going to check the MD5sum then you don't need to flash any roms to your phone, you can seriously mess up and hard brick your phone.
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Agreed, as that would be the easiest fix. Worst case scenario for this approach is that you may need to buy a usb reader for micro sd cards.
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I haven't checked an MD5 since 2010 - did it once then.
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We're also going off what they say in the thread. We can't prove that is what did it. I'm trying to be nice, but most of those "oh shhh" panic threads are due to user error.
I've flashed so many ROMs over the years and I never check MD5. I also religiously dirty-flash. I've bricked phones half-asleep (putting my kid to sleep) and recovered them in the morning. It all boils down to the user. I'm not saying for people to be reckless, but blaming not checking an MD5 on a brick is fear-mongering.
If it doesn't flash the first time? Check to see if your recovery has an update. Redownload ROM. Try again. Fail twice? Wasn't meant to be, this is not the ROM you are looking for.
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Very true, I was just going off of my experience in the S3 threads and that was my first true experience with a truly bootloader unlocked phone, even though I had been flashing Motorola phones for years but that isn't the same, and from what me and a couple other people could put together on the S3 forums was that 2 AOSP roms were responsible for the hard bricks.
Like you said though it is very hard to tell if they even flashed the rom. Hell it could be that they were just lying because they were embarrassed. Nonetheless it is still for the best for people to check MD5s especially on radios and recoveries and it doesn't hurt to check it on roms. I check the MD5 of every rom that I flash or that I plan on flashing in the future just because of that happening in the S3 forums when I was helping there.
I had never really thought about them lying about it but that is a definite possibility..... It's still funny that it was one of 2 AOSP roms every time someone claimed to get bricked after only flashing a rom......
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