Anyone tried this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17461766&postcount=16
I Used RadioComm And Now I Have The Built-In X2 Hotspot Working.(USB + Wireless)
MikeJ92YJ said:
I Used RadioComm And Now I Have The Built-In X2 Hotspot Working.(USB + Wireless)
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Mike, you happen to remember what did you do differently from what I outlined in my screenshots from the other thread?
nitwit said:
Mike, you happen to remember what did you do differently from what I outlined in my screenshots from the other thread?
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I'll PM The Info.
My X2 Hotspot works and I called Verizon to verify I do NOT have that feature, they said it should have not worked without prompting me to add that feature, which it did not.
All I have done is this: Soon after I got the phone I bricked it trying to get Rom Manage/Clockworkmod to work, so I restored the 2.3.4 SBF (VRZ_MB870_4.5.1A-DTN-150-30_1FF_01.sbf), it's new so it came with 2.3.3. After it was back working, I then rooted it using PetesMotorolaRootTools_v1.06 so I could install a few apps that need root (i.e. adfree, TitainiumBackup, etc). Then I just tried enabling the Hotspot to see what would happen. It just asked me for name, password, etc., but never said anything about paying or adding the feature to my account. That's why I called after it worked, just to make sure.
Any idea why it's working without me paying for it? Surely not just because I rooted it?
aldar5 said:
My X2 Hotspot works and I called Verizon to verify I do NOT have that feature, they said it should have not worked without prompting me to add that feature, which it did not.
All I have done is this: Soon after I got the phone I bricked it trying to get Rom Manage/Clockworkmod to work, so I restored the 2.3.4 SBF (VRZ_MB870_4.5.1A-DTN-150-30_1FF_01.sbf), it's new so it came with 2.3.3. After it was back working, I then rooted it using PetesMotorolaRootTools_v1.06 so I could install a few apps that need root (i.e. adfree, TitainiumBackup, etc). Then I just tried enabling the Hotspot to see what would happen. It just asked me for name, password, etc., but never said anything about paying or adding the feature to my account. That's why I called after it worked, just to make sure.
Any idea why it's working without me paying for it? Surely not just because I rooted it?
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It may be like the Internet pass through on my tbolt. It functions without prompting. Then you get a charge at the end of the month.
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Well that's why I called, but I guess I'll know for sure in a month or so.
kinda weird my hotspot running eclipse 1.1 "just works"
hackthis02 said:
Anyone tried this yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17461766&postcount=16
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There are much better ways to do this.
slowz3r said:
kinda weird my hotspot running eclipse 1.1 "just works"
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I had just tried this as well. I didn't have any device to see if I could hook up to it but it definitely was able to just turn on. And im on 8.1 eclipse. It even worked like that on 7rc1 eclipse.
Im just wondering if ill end up with a charge for it as well. Very curious
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I had just tried this as well. I didn't have any device to see if I could hook up to it but it definitely was able to just turn on. And im on 8.1 eclipse. It even worked like that on 7rc1 eclipse.
Im just wondering if ill end up with a charge for it as well. Very curious
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same, i Never really noticed before because I always used Wifi tether for all my tethering needs
Barnacle works for me
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Refer here (From the Droid 3 forums):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182940
This works on the X2 also (instructions are the exact same), and it's permanent. Have fun!
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the promotion expires, but what happens to us who are rooted using wireless tether or barnacle? ive read they were going to add something to prevent/be able to see that. or was that just bologna?
shawnn218 said:
the promotion expires, but what happens to us who are rooted using wireless tether or barnacle? ive read they were going to add something to prevent/be able to see that. or was that just bologna?
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I am wondering the same thing too.
I mean the app uses data like any other app, I'm fairly certain you'll be able to steal the service. We will know all too soon though. Ha
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i guess we're about to find out. lol.
i they found a way to distinguish the difference between the computer using the Internet vs the phone, we're pretty much ****ed. if it's only an app update to block the apps, then you should be find if you are rooted. like i said, we're going to find out in couple of days.
On the d2 and dx they updated the kernel to block tethering. You can bet any future update for any device on verizon will do the same thing.
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On the d2 and dx they updated the kernel to block tethering. You can bet any future update for any device on verizon will do the same thing.
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hmm, interesting. did somebody find a way around it?
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hmm, interesting. did somebody find a way around it?
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I'm not sure. I got the thunderbolt soon after that happened.
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Unless they push an update, or roll out some network side packet inspection, there's nothing they can do to stop barnacle from working. The end of the promotion is really just a problem for people using the built in Mobile Hotspot program. You'll get a popup the next time you launch it asking if you want to enroll in the tethering plan for $20/month.
Otherwise, continue tethering away via barnacle. Legally verizon cant auto-enroll you into anything, so even if they could detect it, they'd have to get your consent to change the terms of your contract, or just cancel your contract for you.
Wireless Tether still works. I didn't personally like how Barnacle functioned.
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if it's in the kernel that blocks the tethering won't a custom kernel fix that issue?
i am surprised that they somehow figured a way to distinguish between phone data and computer data via tethering...
i don't believe it.
When I was on TMO, I remember people asking the same questions about tethering.
From what I could gather, TMO was able to distinguish data by the agent being used for web browsing. Not exactly sure what or how they did it, but I remember some people saying they got a text from TMO about their data usage.
It's been a while, so I could be wrong, so don't quote me on this.
the browser user-agent won't work because you can still set the user-agent on an android phone to look like chrome or firefox, or another desktop browser...
I'm not sure what verizion did to the DX or D2 but they have the mobile hotspot app built into the settings or notification bar or something so you couldn't even remove it or freeze it.
The TBH patch, which patched the radio, helped to get around this problem. it made it so that even when you're tethering verizon sees [email protected] instead of [email protected] (which is what is used when you switch on the tethering app originally)
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if it's in the kernel that blocks the tethering won't a custom kernel fix that issue?
i am surprised that they somehow figured a way to distinguish between phone data and computer data via tethering...
i don't believe it.
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That's true I didn't think about that. The d2 and dx bootloaders are locked down by efuse so loading a custom kernel in those phones is out of the question.
So yes a custom kernel would fix that
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So no on else read the android police article about how even with wireless tether there is no way for Verizon to tell if you're tethering without major packet snooping.. the kind which would be invasion of privacy. And I'm pretty sure p3droid was spewing **** about the "omg warning Verizon sees you tethering"
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the browser user-agent won't work because you can still set the user-agent on an android phone to look like chrome or firefox, or another desktop browser...
I'm not sure what verizion did to the DX or D2 but they have the mobile hotspot app built into the settings or notification bar or something so you couldn't even remove it or freeze it.
The TBH patch, which patched the radio, helped to get around this problem. it made it so that even when you're tethering verizon sees [email protected] instead of [email protected] (which is what is used when you switch on the tethering app originally)
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That was what people were complaining about. Some had their user agent set on their phone to something other than Android and I guess they got a text message saying they were tethering or something to that affect.
Can I still use pdanet?
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That was what people were complaining about. Some had their user agent set on their phone to something other than Android and I guess they got a text message saying they were tethering or something to that affect.
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When did this happen? At&t can see when an iPhone is tethering, because it sends data in a different way than when normally browsing. This isn't exactly true on android.
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When did this happen? At&t can see when an iPhone is tethering, because it sends data in a different way than when normally browsing. This isn't exactly true on android.
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It was talked about several months back when the G2 came out and people were using the 4G.
Nothing was ever confirmed, it was just what people were saying. It could have been that their usage just showed unusually high?
Dnakaman said:
It was talked about several months back when the G2 came out and people were using the 4G.
Nothing was ever confirmed, it was just what people were saying. It could have been that their usage just showed unusually high?
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I'm going to go with that and it was just assumed they were tethering and if the data is high enough its not too hard to guess lol but afaik the only way to see tethering on android is through packet snooping
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When did this happen? At&t can see when an iPhone is tethering, because it sends data in a different way than when normally browsing. This isn't exactly true on android.
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The iPhone browser doesn't let you change the user agent string, while many Android browsers (Opera, Dolphin HD, and even Firefox with the phony addon) do.
For all of you who wanted tethering to be easy and clean on the Amaze I present to you the Android Wifi Tethering app in working order:
http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wifi_tether_v3_1-pre106.apk
This is still somewhat beta but I have tested it and confirmed it works. Couple of key things to note though. You MUST choose Amaze in Device Profile and you must select "Routing Fix".
For more info on the development of this version check out the bug report that got it started:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1189&q=amaze
My heart felt thanks go out to the team and Android Wifi Tether for throwing us a bone here and getting this up and running!!!
For rooted users only it seems
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For rooted users only it seems
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Yes of course! Im sorry I just assumed that everyone knew that. But yes you must be rooted which is quite a simple process!
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Yes of course! Im sorry I just assumed that everyone knew that. But yes you must be rooted which is quite a simple process!
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Very simple, if I can do it, anyone can. And I did.
Didn't work for me, just sent me to T-Mobiles page for ordering wi-fi tethering.
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Didn't work for me, just sent me to T-Mobiles page for ordering wi-fi tethering.
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What is your setup? Are you stock or running a custom rom?
It seems to fc in sense 3.5. Let me see if other versions work.
Edit: 3.1 beta7 works
Thanks!!! It's working for me. I'm rooted and using the stock Rom.
how to put it on?
I have tried 4 different roms on my amaze. Quiksense 3, beastmod, bulletproof, and something else. I wasn’t successful with any to get the wifi, tethering or Bluetooth to work. How do I use your download and make it work on any one of these roms. Kinda new to all this so if u can describe in simple English whether I need to go from the recovery mode from sd or rom manager, it’d be appreciated. Thanks
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I have tried 4 different roms on my amaze. Quiksense 3, beastmod, bulletproof, and something else. I wasn’t successful with any to get the wifi, tethering or Bluetooth to work. How do I use your download and make it work on any one of these roms. Kinda new to all this so if u can describe in simple English whether I need to go from the recovery mode from sd or rom manager, it’d be appreciated. Thanks
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You have to manually flash a kernel with custom ROMs
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Im confused? If we are talking bout wireless thering for another wifi device to connect to your phone. I use my amaze all the time and I haven't rooted mine yet because im waiting for Ice Cream Sandwich .
no go for me. Just rooted, using stock ROM.
tried both the newest beta (v3_1_beta11) and pre106. I see the hotspot from my PC and the log on the phone looks good, but the attempted connection times out.
read this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21476900
no need to ROOT. Just delete all the tethering APNs.
So I see CM7 has been released for 2.3.4 on the DX2, but I see it says tethered. I know there is a difference between tethered and untethered. With the release for CM7 saying tethered, does that mean that everytime the phone dies or it is reset/shut-off you have to reapply the flash? Last time I tried to flash to this release I almost bricked my phone. Just afraid for it to happen again. Is this release worth the flash?
No, it's none of that stuff. It just means that it now supports tethering. It has a wireless hotspot app like verizons that you can use to tether your laptop, ipod, xoom or what have you to. It also supports usb tethering although I haven't tried it. The hotspot works great though.
In other words,,,, you can use your phone for internet access for whatever other devices you have if need be.
Ok so is this a stable ROM? Worth the flash?
Runs steady for me. Like all roms, it has it's own little quirks. Also, HDMI doesn't work on it. Don't know if that's a problem for you or not. Other than that, everything on it works great for me.
What about like Facebook sync and such?
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What about like Facebook sync and such?
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Facebook sync works fine
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I have a rooted, and radio unlocked Atrix 4g. I didn't install the rom (bough it used), but it says that it is the zch45inxdroid55. I went to the Cairbbean for a week and was using a 3G/4G plan with tethering (go figure that they could get a 2GB tethering plan with calls and text for under $50US, with 2GB more for just over $10 more) and the phone REFUSED to do mobile hotspot or usb tethering. I tried the "ro.mot.entitlement_check=false" trick. the build.prop did NOT have this entitlement line in there originally, so i added it. The APN already has tether in it. I restarted and tried again, with no luck. Can someone PLEASE PLEASE help me.
It should be noted that i can use my lapdock already with no problems, just not the mobile hotspot
Thank you!
Have you tried the barnacle app? It reportedly works on most ROMs, regardless of any ROM quirks.
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It should be noted that i can use my
Thank you!
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LOL, good to know that you can use your thank yous.
Try Cyanogenmod nightly, cm7 based roms are they only ones giving me a reliable tether.
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WiFi Tether works best!
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Have you tried the barnacle app? It reportedly works on most ROMs, regardless of any ROM quirks.
LOL, good to know that you can use your thank yous.
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lol, mama raised me to be polite...and also to be quick on the trigger. Was a little too quick there, but i edited that lol. Will try barnacle in a sec
So there is no way to get this disabled and use the "standard" way of bluetooth or usb tethering. honestly would like a BT option.
I love the CM 10.1 build of 4.2.2. It is my dream phone right now. The problem is that no WIFI tethering works on it as of yet. If anyone has anything working I'd love to be proven wrong. This is a show-stopper for me. I can't use bluetooth because my laptop doesn't have bluetooth.
I tried every tethering app out there. Barnacle was the best in that it reported the errors it was seeing instead of just refusing to work.
Anyway, I am thinking of working around the problem by keeping a ROM stored as a TWRP backup that I can restore when I need tethering. I don't need tethering on a moment's notice.
I would like the tethering ROM as slim as possible. I haven't tried any yet. Would a restore be any faster with a slim ROM?
Can someone suggest what ROM I should use that has a small footprint and can restore quickly? I'm thinking that I won't have any apps and no account logged in. If I'm tethering I will be using the other device for email etc. And I'm sure the phone will work no matter what I'm running.
Can anyone suggest a better workaround than this?
I pretty much tether all day with my jellybam install. It has been a rock solid performer on my note and has kept me from having the itch to try any of the 4.2.1 ROMs.
There is supposed to be a new version released tomorrow, but quite frankly , I don't know whether I'll bother as the current version is exceptionally stable ( with flaps kernel )...
I'm sure with cm 10.1 going nightly, they'll have tethering fixed shortly. Its a pretty important feature for many of us.
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I pretty much tether all day with my jellybam install. It has been a rock solid performer on my note and has kept me from having the itch to try any of the 4.2.1 ROMs.
There is supposed to be a new version released tomorrow, but quite frankly , I don't know whether I'll bother as the current version is exceptionally stable ( with flaps kernel )...
I'm sure with cm 10.1 going nightly, they'll have tethering fixed shortly. Its a pretty important feature for many of us.
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I tried jellyblam for quincyatt and I got a boot loop. I went back to recovery and wiped everything again, reinstalled, and I still got a boot loop. Oh well. Thanks for the suggestion.
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I tried jellyblam for quincyatt and I got a boot loop. I went back to recovery and wiped everything again, reinstalled, and I still got a boot loop. Oh well. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Sounds like a bad download...Did you download straight to your phone? While I've never had this issue, I have heard that some prefer to download to their computers and transfer the zip to their phones..
You might be right. I did download it to my PC and copy over the zip. However, I had trouble copying and I had to copy a second time. So, I'll try again.
I did a fresh download, copied, wiped, flashed, and it didn't work. Apparently bam won't run on my phone.
...and your using the latest version of twrp?
Yes. I checked. I might be doing something wrong but I doubt it. I'm guessing there is a bug somewhere that rarely shows up. Until the source code is available these custom roms are somewhat a shot in the dark.
I'm just going to go back to my ICS backup when i need tethering. I guess I started this thread with the hope that someone would have a workaround. I really like 4.2.2 and I've decided to live with this. Maybe it will be fixed soon?
Thanks for your help.
The only tethering app that seems to work is "Open Garden." It's in the Play Store but you'll have to side-load it if on AT&T.
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thx -- I couldn't find apk anywhere, I'll look again. Is that bluetooth only? I need wifi.
apk is not on their home page. Any idea where to find it?
How do you keep AT&T from seeing that you're tethering?
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How do you keep AT&T from seeing that you're tethering?
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I don't know who you are replying to, but I tethered all the time with ATT when using ICS. I didn't know they were trying to block it.
For a while they were changing people's plans to a tethering plan if AT&T caught them tethering. I got a warning email myself.
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For a while they were changing people's plans to a tethering plan if AT&T caught them tethering. I got a warning email myself.
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I know that Verizon has folded tethering into the normal data plans. They make it sound like a benefit but they're raising the overall price so they are really forcing you to buy tethering. I thought ATT and the others were going the same way.
I assume they realized they couldn't enforce it any other way.
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thx -- I couldn't find apk anywhere, I'll look again. Is that bluetooth only? I need wifi.
apk is not on their home page. Any idea where to find it?
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Assuming you're looking for Open Garden, go to http://www.open garden.com and tap the big orange Get APK button to download.
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Assuming you're looking for Open Garden, go to http://www.open garden.com and tap the big orange Get APK button to download.
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I've been to their home page a million times because everyone said you could get the apk there. I was going crazy because all I ever saw was a big orange button to download a version for windows. I had just now typed a reply to you that said you were crazy and then it hit me. You meant to go there on the phone! I'd only been there from my laptop.
Thanks, I'll give it a try now.
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As I feared, open garden is bluetooth only.
I was researching the hotspot issue that only a few users have been having and found that it is inherent to android 4.1.2 and newer. What I found out:
"Throughout the previous iterations of Android (<4.1.2), Android has not identified for the carriers which data is for tethering, and which is not.
Android 4.1.2 introduced that ability (and requirement) for Android devices to properly flag when data is for tethering purposes. This is the first time this has been used in a vanilla release of Android...
For everyone frustrated by this update to Android: Android respecting a carrier's request to know if data is for a tethered device IS NOT A BUG. IT IS A FEATURE. It's not a feature for users like you and me, it's a feature for manufacturers like Samsung and HTC, so they can in turn build devices that carriers can have more control over.
So, to be clear, THIS IS NOT A BUG. Google INTENDED to respect carrier tethering rules. The only way to circumvent this is to either get a plan from your carrier that allows tethering, revert to a build of Android of 4.1.1 or earlier (I used wugfresh NRT tools, google it, they're amazing and simple: FOR NEXUS DEVICES ONLY, SORRY), or for a developer to find and KILL THE ****ING ABILITY FOR ANDROID TO TAG DATA AS TETHERING DATA and release that to the public; either by providing an modded Android image, or as an app (much less likely to work unless you're rooted)."
Copied from a past on another forum, and apparently I can't post a link to it.
Even though I clicked on Thanks, I'd like to thank you again for that clear explanation. I'm sure it won't take long for that to be hacked.
i think the next nightly may fix it
Next to fix on next Nightly
msm8660: Add Wi-Fi AP module args (i wonder if this is it?)
rkpsym ftewed
I sent JamieD a message about it a few days ago. I'm not sure if all developers were aware with source of the problem. Its especially hard when only some users report having an issue. Hopefully they get it working soon.