[Q] AT&T Atrix 4G and it's limitations - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I am totaly noob when it comes to flashing roms, etc. I read this forum from top to bottom, but can't find a direct answer to my question:
I have AT&T Atrix 4G : 4.5.91.MB860.en.US build 4.5.91
Android version: 2.3.4 Baseband ver: N_01.77.30P
It is rooted, don't know if it's bootloader is unlocked (when I hold power+vol down - I can see text "fastboot", but nothing about locking)
The more I read, the more I get confused..
I would like to remove AT&T ROM from it, bcs it lacks FM radio, and can't select 2G only (I need it when I go to place where 3g signal is weak - in my apartment, for example, I am not even US citizen, I brought the phone from US to EU on Telenor network - it is SIM unlocked ) Is there something like plain "vanilla" ROM, free of AT&T's clamps and cuffs ? I wouldn't like to have some Cyanogen Mods, or such - just plain, simple, factory default - generic kind of ROM on ATRIX 4G. I just want to DEBRAND it.
I saw on the noob sticky the whole procedure to flash a ROM, but I am confused in the part where "I must use AT&T for AT&T's US mobile phone" - I would end with the ATT's restrictions again ? What's the use of that ? Can someone pls point me what should I do ? ( and all that "do nots" 4.5.91 scare the hell out of me )
Sorry if this is misplaced, or stupid question, but there are a ton of subquestions in every thread, so I really got confused A BIG TIME No plain answer anywhere to be found...

gabelj said:
Hi, I am totaly noob when it comes to flashing roms, etc. I read this forum from top to bottom, but can't find a direct answer to my question:
I have AT&T Atrix 4G : 4.5.91.MB860.en.US build 4.5.91
Android version: 2.3.4 Baseband verL N_01.77.30P
It is rooted, don't know if it's bootloader is unlocked (when I hold power+vol down - I can see text "fastboot", but nothing about locking)
The more I read, the more I get confused..
I would like to remove AT&T ROM from it, bcs it lacks FM radio, and can't select 2G only (I need it when I go to place where 3g signal is weak - in my apartment, for example, I am not even US citizen, I brought the phone from US to EU on Telenor network - it is SIM unlocked ) Is there something like plain "vanilla" ROM, free of AT&T's clamps and cuffs ? I wouldn't like to have some Cyanogen Mods, or such - just plain, simple, factory default - generic kind of ROM on ATRIX 4G. I just want to DEBRAND it.
I saw on the noob sticky the whole procedure to flash a ROM, but I am confused in the part where "I must use AT&T for AT&T's US mobile phone" - I would end with the ATT's restrictions again ? What's the use of that ? Can someone pls point me what should I do ? ( and all that "do nots" 4.5.91 scares the hell out of me )
Sorry if this is misplaced, or stupid question, but there are a ton of subquestions in every thread, so I really got confused A BIG TIME No plain answer anywhere to be found...
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Cyanogen mod is free of ATT branding and bloat my friend. But yeah u need to use a rom designed for US (ATT) Atrixes or Atrices ( lol however u say the plural)
Also, if you don't know if the bootloader is unlocked.. then it most likely isnt..
To tell, reboot the phone and look in the upper left hand corner. Unlocked devices will read "Unlocked"

Bender B. Rodgriguez said:
Cyanogen mod is free of ATT branding and bloat my friend. But yeah u need to use a rom designed for US (ATT) Atrixes or Atrices ( lol however u say the plural)
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Damn... I don't want to test pre-beta releases of CM on this atrix... It should be done by someone who knows the stuff, anyway...
Bender B. Rodgriguez said:
Also, if you don't know if the bootloader is unlocked.. then it most likely isnt..
To tell, reboot the phone and look in the upper left hand corner. Unlocked devices will read "Unlocked"
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I thought so... I saw it somewhere. But in a load of threads and answers, I got lost.
OK, thanks a lot for your answer... Can you recommend some less modded ROM without all AT&T's stuff, besides CM ? Something just slightly modded - with that 2G unlocked and FM enabled ?
Thanx to all who answer in advance...

gabelj said:
Damn... I don't want to test pre-beta releases of CM on this atrix... It should be done by someone who knows the stuff, anyway...
I thought so... I saw it somewhere. But in a load of threads and answers, I got lost.
OK, thanks a lot for your answer... Can you recommend some less modded ROM without all AT&T's stuff, besides CM ? Something just slightly modded - with that 2G unlocked and FM enabled ?
Thanx to all who answer in advance...
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I think something like this may be what you are looking for .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242721
Havent tried it myself but the dev claims he tried to keep it as close to stock as possible minus all of the Motoblur bloat

Thanks man, I think that this is what I will flash onto my new ATRIX

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[WTA] Samsung Vibrant for Asia use

i just got hold of a samsung vibrant in malaysia where i live.
i've been following xda alot but not in this section. i'm more windows mobile.
there's an extreme amount of reading to do so allow me to just ask a few questions. i'm still quite new to this android thing so allow me to apologise in advance first.
This is what's written on the about phone page on my vibrant.
2.1 update 1
T959uvjfd
kernel 2.6.29
eclair
Q1 - How outdated am i on firmware and i dunno what else there is ?
Q2 - Kies is a nightmare to use and it says there are no updates available. True ?
Q3 - Can i use a i9000 galaxy s rom ?
Q4 - Is there a rom or an application that asian countries need to use ?
Q5 - how do i tell if its hardwarelocked or not ? What is hardwarelocked anyway ? what is simlock and how do i tell if the vibrant i have is locked to anything ?
Q6 - Is it possible to use stock rom when i'm in malaysia and not the USA ? Will there be any difficulties ?
Q7 - i need to be able to see chinese characters so is there an app or some tweak that i would need to do ?
As starters i think i'd like to familiarise myself with a stock rom so that i can get used to it and proceed from there.
Based on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857974
i'd like to use the rom but what is clockwork ?
thank you for your patience
sharkteef said:
i just got hold of a samsung vibrant in malaysia where i live.
i've been following xda alot but not in this section. i'm more windows mobile.
there's an extreme amount of reading to do so allow me to just ask a few questions. i'm still quite new to this android thing so allow me to apologise in advance first.
This is what's written on the about phone page on my vibrant.
2.1 update 1
T959uvjfd
kernel 2.6.29
eclair
Q1 - How outdated am i on firmware and i dunno what else there is ?
Q2 - Kies is a nightmare to use and it says there are no updates available. True ?
Q3 - Can i use a i9000 galaxy s rom ?
Q4 - Is there a rom or an application that asian countries need to use ?
Q5 - how do i tell if its hardwarelocked or not ? What is hardwarelocked anyway ? what is simlock and how do i tell if the vibrant i have is locked to anything ?
Q6 - Is it possible to use stock rom when i'm in malaysia and not the USA ? Will there be any difficulties ?
Q7 - i need to be able to see chinese characters so is there an app or some tweak that i would need to do ?
As starters i think i'd like to familiarise myself with a stock rom so that i can get used to it and proceed from there.
Based on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857974
i'd like to use the rom but what is clockwork ?
thank you for your patience
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the best place to start is here
thats a great guide written by s15274n.
but I'll try to answer some of your questions..
Q1 - there are 2 official firmwares out at this moment JFD (which you have) and JI6
Both of these are android 2.1 firmwares.
Some people see better gps lock times with JI6.
Most people also say it drains the battery faster
There are some extra apps on JI6 but nothing too spectacularly different.
There are a few unnoficial firmwares available such as JK2 and JK6 which are froyo 2.2 firmwares (the one you said you would like to download is a leaked version of an upcoming official firmware JK6)
So you are one update behind in official firmware or a few behind in unnofficial firmwares.
Thats not really a bad thing though, it just depends on your preference.
Q2 - you probably should not update via kies, but JI6 should be available through Kies mini if you must do it that way.
Q3 - you can use an i9000 rom though this is not recomended.
Especialy if your just starting.
If you use an i9000 ROM, you would need to use a vibrant kernel.
Otherwise the volume buttons will be reversed. (among other bugs).
Eugenes "Macnut" series of roms are based on i9000 source, and work wonderfully as they are.
If you must have an i9000 rom, at least these ROMs are ported specifically to the vibrant.
Q4 - Malaysia uses the 1800 and 900 bands, and the vibrant right out of the box supports 850, 900, 1800, and 1900
So as far as it working on your network, I think you'll be fine as long as your vibrant is sim unlocked.
Q5 - hardware locked is where you cannot get to recovery without using ADB (Android Debug Bridge)
You can check to see if you are hardware locked by trying to reboot into recovery.
To do this, turn the phone off and boot up while holding both volume up and volume down and the power button.
you can let go of the power button when you see the vibrant logo.
This should bring you to a recovery menu, although for some people, holding all of the buttons is pretty hard so dont get frustrated if it doesent work the first couple of times.
Sim Lock is where your phone is locked to a specific carrier (for the vibrant this is usualy t-mobile)
If you need to use the phone on a network besides t-mobile you will need to unlock it (if it is not unlocked already)
You can check the unlock status by opening the dialer and entering this number: *#7465256#
If entered correctly you will not have to hit dial, it will automaticaly bring up a menu when you enter the last # sign.
if everything in the list that pops up says "OFF" then your phone is unlocked, otherwise you are probably locked to t-mobile, and will need to unlock the phone to use it on another carrier.
Q6 - I dont think there would be any difficulties using whichever rom you like, although everything will obviously be in english.
Some apps do have language packs and such, so I'm not completly sure how difficult it will be as far as language barriers, but the phone will likely work fine (although there are some phone companies who's sim cards just dont work in the vibrant... mostly pay as you go ones)
Q7 - I'm not sure about languages, I've never used anything but english...
Q8 - Clockworkmod is a replacement recovery.
If you are rooted, all you need to do is get a hold of the rom manager app and hit the first option (flash clockworkmod recovery) then hit reboot into recovery (the second choice) and lastly hit reinstall packages while in the stock recovery menu.
You can probably find rom manager on this forum, if not I can find it for you if you need it.
Hopefully that helps a bit...
If not just keep asking and I will answer as best as I can, also read that guide at the top of my post, its a really good place to start.
i've read through your answers to my queries and am extremely satisfied with them. i've even understood more and more after beginning to experiment on rooting and flashing the rom using the rom manager. its easier than using odin.
the languages question i'll try to find out more by googling a little later on.
you have been a great help to me. i would not know where to start as the device is already in my hands and with an immense amount of reading to do, i just needed to shave some time off to read the more important stuff first. anxiety to begin using my device that is.
there is an option underlying somewhere that says USB debugging mode. what is that for ? i switched it off when i connected the vibrant to my winxp pc to enable me to copy some apk files over into the internal memory. do i need to re-tick it again ? where can i find that function ?
also i heard alot of talks about adb and launcherpro. i have no idea what those are.
are they like spb mobile shells for winmo devices ? or manila for windows mobile ?
there's still alot of exploration for me and i'm thankful for helpful people like you in the community.
I too am in the same boat except i'm based in the Philippines. I can get a hold of a T-Mobile Vibrant cheaply but am unsure if it will work here out of the box and where to start to make sure i make the most out of it if it is compatible with the local networks.
Q1: We use 900/1800 GSM and 2100 3G here. I'm sure voice will work but will i get 3G?
Q2: Is there a stock unbranded ROM i can immediately use? I want to avoid playing with custom ROMs while i'm still figuring out what's best for me.

[Q] Any custom ROM for Australian Telstra released Atrix yet?

Is any able to advise me if the Telstra version of the Atrix would have similar issues to the Bell OS, if I decided to load up Motobread, Ginger blur etc etc.
Staunch said:
Is any able to advise me if the Telstra version of the Atrix would have similar issues to the Bell OS, if I decided to load up Motobread, Ginger blur etc etc.
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I may have missed something but i followed the steps to install gingerblur and well, it bricked my Telstra atrix that I only got yesterday
Luckily i made a backup of the telstra firmware as soon as i got it so its all good. Just got no idea on how to install CF. The telstra atrix i'm assuming is the same as the AT&T atrix because they are both "Motorola Atrix MB860" but i could be missing something
Uh oh, radio's and fingerprint reader aren't working
Oh, and it also wont turn itself off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys should probably be following instructions for the Bell Atrix. Bell users have been successful at flashing the telstra firmware and then installing grey/ginger blur and so I'd start there.
Hope it helps
DarkRyoushii
PS: OMG Atrix is released in Australia now? I should go find a telstra store and check out the differences, my Atrix that I've had since launch (from AT&T then unlocked) is the only one I've actually used so I'd love to see if the bugs in mine still exist in telstra's hahaha
EDIT: Oh and if u need a briefing. Bootloader Bypass has basically dropped off the radar and turned silent, probably still being worked on in private chats to avoid spam and offtopic posts. 2nd Init works (a different way to install custom ROMs however unable to modify kernel) but there are no ROMs developed yet, probably also being worked on in private chats if you are interested check out the freenode IRC #moto-atrix
All ROMs released as of writing are pseudoROMS that only theme and lightly modify the current OS
Thanks
DarkRyoushii said:
You guys should probably be following instructions for the Bell Atrix. Bell users have been successful at flashing the telstra firmware and then installing grey/ginger blur and so I'd start there.
Hope it helps
DarkRyoushii
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I had a really bad feeling that that would be the case. Bell users appear to have a limited range of options compaired to the AT&T users. Now it seems that the Telstra users will have even less options than the Bell users.
I have at least managed to load HeLauncher, Pyramid & Fancy widgets tonight and now I've have more of the options that I wanted from the HTC desire sense UI.
Still trying to work out how to get my hands on the widget/live weather wallpaper that has that Super Cool looking windscreen wiper that clears the rain away.... Any ideas on how to get ahold of it?
Thanks again.
limited how? what version is your telstra rom? (wondering if its the same as the one that is already on this site)
as for the windshield wiper, that is from sense....oh i see you found the mock sense thread.
y2whisper said:
limited how? what version is your telstra rom? (wondering if its the same as the one that is already on this site)
as for the windshield wiper, that is from sense....oh i see you found the mock sense thread.
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My system version is;
Version.4.1.47,MB860.Telstra.en.AU
Thanks for the info, I will start looking for the other one on this site.
So i can guess we can all agree that Telstra's Atrix cannot be flashed with custom ROM's from AT&T. I just tried it again tonight with different roms and all works up, shows "Ginger Blur" or whatever it is and then the red blinking failed boot and it just tries over and over to boot. I'm gonna flash back to OLYEM_U4_1.4.2_SIGNED_USAOLYEMTELSTRA_P029_A020_M005_HWolympus_1g_1FF and just sit and wait till something comes up unless someone's got something they wanna try
they should be able to flash using the gingerblur/greyblur guide by seven2009. you may not be able to deodex with the same instructions but installing should be fine, you would need to flash grey blur and factory reset the device before installing gingerblur.
If that route doesn't work you may need to start by flashing the french rom that is mentioned in that thread first.
makmegs said:
So i can guess we can all agree that Telstra's Atrix cannot be flashed with custom ROM's from AT&T. I just tried it again tonight with different roms and all works up, shows "Ginger Blur" or whatever it is and then the red blinking failed boot and it just tries over and over to boot. I'm gonna flash back to OLYEM_U4_1.4.2_SIGNED_USAOLYEMTELSTRA_P029_A020_M005_HWolympus_1g_1FF and just sit and wait till something comes up unless someone's got something they wanna try
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You are doing better than me so far, but I must admit that going for custom ROM's has me a bit worried. I flashed my Nokia 5800 and it was better for looks and customisation, but it crashed alot. Then I jail breaked my iSheep (iphone 3G) and that was a little better than stock iOS, but it also crashed alot too.
I am hesitant to play around too much with the Atrix, simply because it's so new, and I was patient enough to wait for the Telstra release (instead of an imported AT&T version). However I found this thread that may shed some light on the topic at hand.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=29747620#r29747620
User "LeChuck" has some great knowledge and info about this Telstra firmware.
I am just not adventurous enough at the moment to have a crack at it. All I need to do, is find out how I could hard reset back to stock firmware if I don't like mods, then i'll give it a go. Even since rooted it over the weekend, I've notice3d more little issues each day I play around with things.
Can it be "Un-rooted" (is that an actual term used???) back to standard?
DarkRyoushii said:
You guys should probably be following instructions for the Bell Atrix. Bell users have been successful at flashing the telstra firmware and then installing grey/ginger blur and so I'd start there.
Hope it helps
DarkRyoushii
PS: OMG Atrix is released in Australia now? I should go find a telstra store and check out the differences, my Atrix that I've had since launch (from AT&T then unlocked) is the only one I've actually used so I'd love to see if the bugs in mine still exist in telstra's hahaha
EDIT: Oh and if u need a briefing. Bootloader Bypass has basically dropped off the radar and turned silent, probably still being worked on in private chats to avoid spam and offtopic posts. 2nd Init works (a different way to install custom ROMs however unable to modify kernel) but there are no ROMs developed yet, probably also being worked on in private chats if you are interested check out the freenode IRC #moto-atrix
All ROMs released as of writing are pseudoROMS that only theme and lightly modify the current OS
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I have a buggy unlocked AT&T Atrix too and have been waiting for it to come out in OZ to flash it with either the Telstra Rom or something else. Can you (or anyone) make a suggestion?
procedure of installing custom rom
procedure of installing custom rom on atrix details are below.
system version: 45.0.20.mb860.telstra.en.au
model number:mb860
android versoin:2.3.4
basband version : N_01.100.00R
Webtop version: WT-1.20-133_23
Kernal version [email protected] #7
APflex version : GAS_Asia_usaolygbautel_p013,a012,m001
build number: 4.5.2A-74_OLE-20
shanitop_you said:
procedure of installing custom rom on atrix details are below.
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You mean, you would like the procedure of installing a custom ROM on those specs? I would too.
It's mainly the BL unlock process I am not sure about on Telstra Atrix of the same spec. I'm comfortable with the rest.

[Q] What should I do with my phone? (rooting, unlocking, ROMs, etc)

Hi Everyone!
Just want to start off by saying I’m new to the Atrix, but not new to the forums or android itself. I’ve rooted and flashed ROMs and kernels on other devices for myself and others, but the Atrix seems different from all those, so I have a few questions that I couldn’t find definitive answers to (and yes, I know where the search button is).
First off “unlocking” the phone seems to be more of a risk than I am willing to take, considering I’m doing this for a friend.
So I realize I won’t be a able to flash custom ROM’s, but what can I do after rooting?
Can I even get CWM?
Can I flash a kernel that lets me overclock?
Can I do OTA updates? (I hear ICS is coming to the Atrix soon, which is why I’m not worried about custom ROMs at the moment)
Once I OTA update to gingerbread will I be able to unlock the phone down the line?
Also what are some other things you guys say are a "must do" for this phone?
I know I’m asking a lot of questions, but any help would be greatly appreciated (and yes, I know where the thanks button is too)
You can unlock up to and including GB 2.3.6. How do I know cuz I did it myself.
Second you are very limited on what you can do until you do in fact unlock your bootloader. CWM can only be installed after your BL is unlocked.
Finally there's a few YouTube videos that show you step-by-step instructions on how to do this (even on GB) so it's really not that bad. Just watch them a couple of times, go slow, and most of all make sure your phones battery is charged. In the end once you unlock, you'll be glad you did...
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium
Thanks for your answer, you've convince me to unlock it, but I have one more question.
Since my friend bought the phone new off amazon very recently is there a chance that unlocking the bootloader will be blocked, which I've seen other users saying.
kingv10 said:
Thanks for your answer, you've convince me to unlock it, but I have one more question.
Since my friend bought the phone new off amazon very recently is there a chance that unlocking the bootloader will be blocked, which I've seen other users saying.
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No, use the following link to unlock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...r UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE%2007/31/11]
Follow everything the command say. Make sure at no point do you take the cable out, if you are asked at any point to select a command on the phone but it does not let you just carry on with the process. It worked for me. Mine was locked to Gingerbread 2.3.6 build 4.5.141
anaschillin said:
No, use the following link to unlock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...r UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91 [UPDATE%2007/31/11]
Follow everything the command say. Make sure at no point do you take the cable out, if you are asked at any point to select a command on the phone but it does not let you just carry on with the process. It worked for me. Mine was locked to Gingerbread 2.3.6 build 4.5.141
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+1 on unlocking usa att 2.3.6 4.5.141 with that program
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
One thing to consider though is that you´ll probably void the warranty. That would be the case in Brazil. IMHO, the benefits of rooting/unlocking far outweighs the loss of warranty. I would only let my friend know that even though it doesn´t happen very often, things can go wrong and you cannot be held responsible for any demage...just like we see in each every custom ROM disclaimer.

[Q] Help getting to neutrino ROM??

Just order a new atrix 4G. I have looked at the possible ROM's to use and I want to try out the Neutrino ROM. I have rooted devices before but I am new to Motorola devices. Please help me find the CURRENT steps I need to take to get to be able to run the Neutrino ROM? I have used the search bar but a lot of the threads that I have found contain links that are no longer valid. Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600 Also I read a this link http://www.xda-developers.com/tag/motorola-atrix-4g/ which has me a worried that I may end up having an issue because all of the guides or seem to have been written before May 15th.
Thanks for taking a look and sorry if that was a little confusing I just didn't want to get flammed for being lazy. In the end I just want to know the most up to date way to get to the Neutrino ROM?? Below I will have included the specs. If I need to post anthing else please let me know
I recieved my phone last night and set it up on Striaght Talk.
System version: 45.31.0.MB860.AsiaRetail.en.03
Model Number: MB860
Android Version: 2.3.4
Your help is GREATLY APPRIECIATED!!
Also on the youTube videos they all seem to say "DO NOT DO TRY TO UNLOCK OR ROOT IF YOU HAVE 2.3.4 OR IT WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE!!"
Is this still the case or has there been a work around for it yet??
you have to unlock bootloader, but you can get FAIL with last step.
If you will get fail - don't worry, you can still unlock it via fastboot (tested on mine INTL Atrix, but every phone is a little bit different)
flash recovery, wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, flash rom, flash gapps. Done
Thanks ovitz. Can you point me to a thread describing how to unlock the bootloader on this phone?? I can do all the other stuff that you said I need to do after the bootloader is unlocked(clearing and flashing). Just really dont want to mess up my phone. I got 2 actually one for my girlfriend as well. I have java and all SDK/ADB and all programs that I may need. Just want a step by step for comfort.
Is the search not working for you?
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1136261/
The thread is sticky even.
DISCLAIMER: I used this to unlock the BL on my Atrix, but mine is an older one, dating back to around Feb 2011. I do not know if this still works on brand new devices, however I am not aware of any other way to unlock (there probably isn't any other way really).
What is the other way (not using fastboot) to unlock this bootloader?? I tried fastboot oem unlock and got this message "INFOOEM unlock is not implemented"
Do I need to use an SBF with RSDlite or something to make this possible? If so please point me in the direction of that thread!?!
Thanks for anyone that can help
ravilov said:
Is the search not working for you?
http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1136261/
The thread is sticky even.
DISCLAIMER: I used this to unlock the BL on my Atrix, but mine is an older one, dating back to around Feb 2011. I do not know if this still works on brand new devices, however I am not aware of any other way to unlock (there probably isn't any other way really).
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Sorry ravilov...Did not see your post as I had started a post and then ventured off to seach XDA and some other forums again as well. I have gotten to the link that you posted several times. I just saw that is was posted a long time ago and that there is a lot of things in that post that dont make too much sense to me.
First it says "All phones If you have unlocked then try to use 2.3.4 update zip from Motorola servers, then revert back to a "pre-unlock" version(1.8.3 or earlier on ATT) you will get bricked! Do not use the OTA via experimental servers and revert to older versions WITHOUT pudding preinstalled in your sbf. ATT ONLY Get your 1.8.3 with pudding from the pudding/unlocker section below."
Then shortly after is says "Disclaimer: Tested on 1.8.3 and 2.3.4 using sbf_flash and RSDLITE 5.3.1 or higher, usual warnings being responsible for your own actions yada yada"
So I dont really know if it works or not on the newer atrix's. I dont want to brick a brand new phone and I would just like to see that some one else has done it recently. So yes my eyes are open and search did work for me if you did not see the 2 other threads I mentioned. I just want something up to date, not from early 2011. If it can be confirmed that this works or If you know someone who has unlocked it recently, that would be great to hear from them.
Thanks for posting the link to that thread anyways though. Much apprieciated!
Can anyone tell me if the IHOP method to unlock bootloader will work with my phone?? I cant post in that thread because I do not have enough posts. Here are my specs so I could get some help with which patch to use with RSDlite.
System version: 45.31.0.MB860.AsiaRetail.en.03
Model number: MB860
Android version: 2.3.4
Baseband version: N_01.100.00R
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
[email protected] #3
APflex version: GAS_ASIA_USAOLYGBSEART_P011
GAS_ASIA_USAOLYGBSEART_A003
GAS_ASIA_USAOLEMSEARET_M001
Build number: 4.5.2A-74_OLE-31
Something else I want to note is that it was bought on ebay as unlocked so I am assuming that is the radio. When I set up the APN for straight talk it did have the choices for AT&T US, AT&T US HSDPA, AT&T US Tether, AT&T US MMS. So this is why I am a little confused/scared as to which piece of pudding to use. It looks easy enough to unlock and clear the caches and flash the ROM I will want to use. Just would like to know which one to use.
Please, please somebody help!!:fingers-crossed:
Thanks you for taking a look to help. Much apprieciated!!!
For a phone with the Asia Retail firmware, you'll want to use RSD Lite to flash the IHOP SBF. Your phone will likely enter a soft brick as stated above, just proceed with the unlock commands in fastboot from the error screen.
Since its an international phone, if you don't load a new ROM soon after unlocking then you'll need to flash the "RAMfix" from the Development section here. Most ROMs have that built in to the kernel, though, so it's not needed if you're going directly to a ROM.
In case you need it in the future, you might want to locate your stock SBF for Asia Retail and keep it on hand. If you see the Atrix Firmware Superthread in the Dev section, find the later Page that has new links to updated download sites. It's a post with a link to all Gingerbread firmwares and a link to all Froyo firmwares. Yours will have "searet" in the name. Make sure it's the same version, 2.3.4. Flashing anything older will brick you.
Good luck!
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das8nt said:
For a phone with the Asia Retail firmware, you'll want to use RSD Lite to flash the IHOP SBF. Your phone will likely enter a soft brick as stated above, just proceed with the unlock commands in fastboot from the error screen.
Since its an international phone, if you don't load a new ROM soon after unlocking then you'll need to flash the "RAMfix" from the Development section here. Most ROMs have that built in to the kernel, though, so it's not needed if you're going directly to a ROM.
In case you need it in the future, you might want to locate your stock SBF for Asia Retail and keep it on hand. If you see the Atrix Firmware Superthread in the Dev section, find the later Page that has new links to updated download sites. It's a post with a link to all Gingerbread firmwares and a link to all Froyo firmwares. Yours will have "searet" in the name. Make sure it's the same version, 2.3.4. Flashing anything older will brick you.
Good luck!
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Awesome das8nt!! wish I could thank you more than once!!! I was just confused because it said asia in some spots but the APN's were for AT&T.
Oregon2 said:
Awesome das8nt!! wish I could thank you more than once!!! I was just confused because it said asia in some spots but the APN's were for AT&T.
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Quite welcome.
APNs are usually set by your SIM, if it's provisioned properly and the phone supports it.
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Good to know About the APNs. Just to let you know I unlocked, rooted, and flashed the ROM the day you first replied. So I've been running with a new ROM for 3 days and the battery life is great!!
If anyone out there has installed the Neutrino ROM, I have one more question. On the Neurino ROM page it say to do these 2 steps:
"Then, after booting, click on script manager, navigate to /system/etc and run NitroCharger.sh as ROOT and at BOOT!
It is also HIGHLY recommended to download the GPS Mod found in #2. Then you're done."
I tried flashing the GPS mod but I keep gettng an error. Then on my first boot I tried going to /system/etc and from there I do not know where to locate NitroCharger to run it for either. Any help on these two issues would be great!! Also another thanks for everyone for taking a look and helping.
I would post in that thread but I still dont have enought posts.
You really need to reread the original Neutrino thread, since all of this has been answered countless times.
YOU DO NOT FLASH THE GPS MOD DIRECTLY. Open the ZIP and read the instructions.
NitroCharger is only available as an OTA update, but you might reconsider if you really want it since it's been known to cause issues.
Again, I know the thread is very large, but whatever questions or issues you might have, it's very likely answered there already.
Thanks you for just answering, even though you think I should just reread the thread. That answered my questions very fast. I will just not run Nitrocharger, I thought it may casue problems if I could not get it to run, instead you said it is the opposite. As for the GPS mod I just did open up the .zip and read the readme. I pulled out the United_States.zip
Can I just use CWM recovery to flash the US.zip now or do I have to clear all my caches and the likes beforehand?
I know your very busy and I apprieciate the time you take to just look at it.
I have just started my own business and it is going great!! but I have been working 14+ hour days with usually 9 hours hour doing very hard physical labor 6 days a week!! I need to hire more employees soon, lol. I read the whole IHOP thread from front to back and the Neutrino thread but I was very exhasted and stayed up until 330 in the morning doing it!! So again I thank you for taking your time I appriciate it very MUCH that you are helping me to have a fun android experiance and also to learn something new to me!!
Yes, you can just go ahead and flash United_States.zip. No need to clear anything.
Awesome your the MAN!! Thanks again :laugh: :good:

[Q]at&t unocked vs international factory unlocked

I want to buy one m8. what is the difference between at&t factory unlocked and international factory unlocked version. can i flash roms in international version thread on at&t factory unlocked model directly??
Yes you can flash any rom you want from the international thread. I am currently running Android Revolution.
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The 3G and LTE band compatibility is different. Do you intend to use on the AT&T network? If so, the "international" (EMEA) version is compatible with AT&T's 3G bands (850 and 1900 MHz); but lacks both of the LTE bands used by AT&T (700 and 1700 MHz) according to this: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
Not band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing different software (ROM, radio, etc.). This means the EMEA version cannot be used on AT&T's LTE network, not matter what you do.
If using on a carrier besides AT&T, I'd check the band compatibility with what your carrier uses. Even if the AT&T version is compatible (with you carrier), I'd probably recommend the international version over it (if compatible as well). The AT&T version is loaded with crappy AT&T bloat and limitations. For instance, WiFi hotspot is blocked, so bootloader needs to be unlocked and the phone rooted in order to make it work on other networks.
Plus, there is the ugly AT&T logo on the back.
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
I would really appreciate some help
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Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
I would really appreciate some help
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Then I suggest you start reading...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8?nocache=1
Look in there and
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=htc+one+m8+root
I have the ViperOneM8 rom installed. What is even cool is in the tweeks, you can change the AT&T bootup and logoff screen to a viperone screen. And change the AT&T logo in the pull down menu to any picture you want. s-off isn't really needed unless you plan on changing the kernel.
Maelstrom08 said:
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
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What you describe is easy to do by just unlocking the bootloader, installing custom recovery, and flashing any international based stock rooted ROM or custom ROM. I basically have done the same, as even though AT&T is my carrier, I absolutely hate their branding, non-standard signal icons, bloatware, and limitations (particularly Wifi Hotspot/tethering).
As the previous user already suggested, learning and reading is the best thing for you to do. Don't proceed until you have a good understanding of the concepts and process. My Index thread (specific to the AT&T versions) is a good place to start up reading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Great, thanks for the information and guidance guys. i'll definitely spend the next couple days reading before rooting the device, i can't afford to brick it. Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
Developer build device and ATT device are same exact hardware, ONLY difference is ones sim locked and other isnt, bought 2 developer device from [email protected]'s both run fine on ATT networks...
Maelstrom08 said:
Great, thanks for the information and guidance guys. i'll definitely spend the next couple days reading before rooting the device, i can't afford to brick it. Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
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no additional advice. I think red point has a wonderful index that should work well for you.
I just wanted to tell you what a wonderfully refreshing attitude you have . Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any specific questions.
Maelstrom08 said:
Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
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If you look at my Index thread I linked above, the first item under "Unlock Bootloader, ROOT, S-Off" is an excellent step-by-step guide to rooting. There really isn't much I can't add, the guide is so thorough. But I'd still advise to read around and make sure you fully understand all the concepts and steps, and not just blindly follow the guide.
If the goal is to install a custom ROM, you can stop before the step in guide where it says to flash SuperSU (after flashing TWRP), and just put a ROM on the phone and flash in recovery similar to how you have done in the past. The guide is written with the intent of staying on the stock ROM and rooting.
One tip I can give, is that you may notice there are some Toolkits that attempt to automate some of the process (bootloader unlock, custom recovery, root, etc.). I would actually recommend avoiding the use of these. Reason being, the steps aren't actually all that hard to do "manually", plus these toolkits (while well meaning) shortcut the learning process, and rob you of a valuable learning opportunity.
I'm assuming OP doesn't want a custom ROM or root. Just to convert the AT&T branded model to a stock unlocked model, and still get OTA updates. This is possible. You need to unlock the bootloader, get S-OFF, and then follow this guide (you can skip step 1, changing MID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567
mindmajick said:
no additional advice. I think red point has a wonderful index that should work well for you.
I just wanted to tell you what a wonderfully refreshing attitude you have . Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any specific questions.
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Thanks a lot man, you seem to have a really nice personality yourself as well. I'll definitely take you up on that offer when I get a chance.
redpoint73 said:
If you look at my Index thread I linked above, the first item under "Unlock Bootloader, ROOT, S-Off" is an excellent step-by-step guide to rooting. There really isn't much I can't add, the guide is so thorough. But I'd still advise to read around and make sure you fully understand all the concepts and steps, and not just blindly follow the guide.
If the goal is to install a custom ROM, you can stop before the step in guide where it says to flash SuperSU (after flashing TWRP), and just put a ROM on the phone and flash in recovery similar to how you have done in the past. The guide is written with the intent of staying on the stock ROM and rooting.
One tip I can give, is that you may notice there are some Toolkits that attempt to automate some of the process (bootloader unlock, custom recovery, root, etc.). I would actually recommend avoiding the use of these. Reason being, the steps aren't actually all that hard to do "manually", plus these toolkits (while well meaning) shortcut the learning process, and rob you of a valuable learning opportunity.
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Yeah, I plan on doing it manually. Thanks for all the good advise man. I'm liking what I see in these forums, I'm glad I landed here.
Sorry it took me this long to reply guys, I have been very busy in the past week. Time to learn me some HTC one m8.
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One last question guys, hopefully somebody can answer me. I've already read a few topics on the terminology used (s-off, ruu, htcdev, etc.), and things don't seem to be too far from what i thought they were. I'm ready to root and flash a custom rom, but here's my question:
I'm a very methodical person, i like to know what I'm doing and that it's the right way to do it. When i flashed a new rom (or rom version) on my samsung vibrant i would do a full wipe (factory reset, clear chache, clear dalvik cache, format system, and format data) before flashing, then i would flash the rom, and then i would flash the rom on top of itself without doing a full wipe. This method worked for me for over 3 years and kept me from getting common bugs some people complained about. Is it fine if i do this with my m8? (i mainly want to know if it can cause problems).. What's your common flash routine?
Thanks for the help guys
I am simple, I do what you do except the double flash.
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Maelstrom08 said:
I'm a very methodical person, i like to know what I'm doing and that it's the right way to do it. When i flashed a new rom (or rom version) on my samsung vibrant i would do a full wipe (factory reset, clear chache, clear dalvik cache, format system, and format data) before flashing, then i would flash the rom, and then i would flash the rom on top of itself without doing a full wipe. This method worked for me for over 3 years and kept me from getting common bugs some people complained about. Is it fine if i do this with my m8? (i mainly want to know if it can cause problems).. What's your common flash routine?
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What you've stated is fine. Although factory reset already wipes data, cache and Dalvik, so its a bit redundant.
I'm the opposite of methodical (at least in the way you describe). I like to get things done with as few steps as possible (while still doing it right). I've similarly been flashing ROMs on Android devices for 4 years (4 HTC devices and 2 Samsung). But I hardly ever wipe system (flashing a ROM does that by default) and never double flash, and I've never had any issues I would attribute to flashing methods.
Some folks will swear by wiping system for every ROM flash, but honestly while there is nothing wrong with it, I don't believe in it and almost never do it (unless sometimes where the ROM specifically says to do so in the instructions).
On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with redundancy, and if you like to be methodical and thorough I would say just keep doing what you have been doing.
Hi there,
i hope that i will get better answer here.
My question is that i have m8 cell htc, but the problem is i dont know how to check what software was intalled in it at beginnig, i installed at&t marshmallow but want to know weather it was of at&t of international and device does not have any icon on the back of the device. thanks
bilalkamal said:
Hi there,
i hope that i will get better answer here.
My question is that i have m8 cell htc, but the problem is i dont know how to check what software was intalled in it at beginnig, i installed at&t marshmallow but want to know weather it was of at&t of international and device does not have any icon on the back of the device. thanks
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Do fastboot getvar all, and post the results (delete IMEI and serial number before posting) and if we look at that info, we can probably determine what version it is.

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