Hello,..
I have installed CyanogenMOD 7 on my Atrix and now i have some Questions,..
The first is, How i can use the original KEyboards from Motorola, i have copied the Keyboard from my Original ROM but it didn´t work.
The second Question is How can i use my second Storage in the Recovery?
Thx for reading..
You would go to Settings- CynogenMod Settings-and then you would go to Application settings I believe is what it is called then check the box that says "Use Internal Storage" You must reboot for that to work though. And for the keyboard, I don't think it will work because it relies on certain motorola dependincies. But if you want to try, copy it to /data/app
Aienka1987 said:
Hello,..
I have installed CyanogenMOD 7 on my Atrix and now i have some Questions,..
The first is, How i can use the original KEyboards from Motorola, i have copied the Keyboard from my Original ROM but it didn´t work.
The second Question is How can i use my second Storage in the Recovery?
Thx for reading..
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Go to the market and download Gingerbread Keyboard, it's basically the stock keyboard. If you're using ROM Manager and I remember correctly only uses external SD by default and has no option to switch between the two like RomRacer's CWM (which is what I use).
There are some storage options in the CyanogenMod settings that allow you to switch things around but I just left them as they were so I don't want to comment on it and give you the wrong information.
If everyone reads the thread about INSTALLING this ROM, you should be using either one of two recoveries based on what the devs are telling us. Either flash the recovery from Rom Manager *get from market*, or flash this one through fastboot https://atrix-dev-team.googlecode.com/files/recovery-cwm-ext4.img The reason being is that those two properly support ext4-formatting, which is what CM7 uses. Stock Gingerbread uses ext-3, which RomRacer's does not properly support if you look on his thread. But people seem to think it does. Will CM7 install if you use Romracers recovery? Maybe. But I'd be safe and use one of the two above. Now you already HAVE CM7, so if you have one of the two above, you won't be able to use your *second storage*, or External Storage, when accessing the recovery through the above options. So anything you flash you'll have to stick on internal storage. Also, a better option for a keyboard is the new Swype, which I now use and LOVE. Get it here. http://beta.swype.com/
Phalanx7621 said:
If everyone reads the thread about INSTALLING this ROM, you should be using either one of two recoveries based on what the devs are telling us. Either flash the recovery from Rom Manager *get from market*, or flash this one through fastboot https://atrix-dev-team.googlecode.com/files/recovery-cwm-ext4.img The reason being is that those two properly support ext4-formatting, which is what CM7 uses. Stock Gingerbread uses ext-3, which RomRacer's does not properly support if you look on his thread. But people seem to think it does. Will CM7 install if you use Romracers recovery? Maybe. But I'd be safe and use one of the two above. Now you already HAVE CM7, so if you have one of the two above, you won't be able to use your *second storage*, or External Storage, when accessing the recovery through the above options. So anything you flash you'll have to stick on internal storage. Also, a better option for a keyboard is the new Swype, which I now use and LOVE. Get it here. http://beta.swype.com/
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I've never had an issue installing CM7 with RomRacer's CWM. Same with a couple other people I know that use it. The upside to RomRacer's is it has the option to select Internal and External when it comes to flashing a .zip
thx, for help..
i have installed swype again, i think it is the best keyboard,..
Sms delivery reports, work in a single flashing Bell GB 2.3.4: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php? T = 1195922 (similar only in this one all 2.3.4), this information can help to correct? Sorry for my bad English
I have an evo. I don't see how this is true if I am installing app and they are goin to my ext3 with2gb of space and my internal is over 300+ so I much still have my partition
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So, it's been about 8 months since I rooted my phone and I'm startin to want to learn more...
I rooted my phone and installed xtrSENSE4.0.6.1 ROM and I've spent the past 14 hours today, reading here and androidforums seein what options I've got now. I'm debating upgrading to the newer xtrSENSE...but I'd like to learn to customize/theme everything as much as possible, so I'm not sure if that's the right option for me?
I'm looking for some direction on things, what ROM would you guys recommend moving to, I LOVE my current ones performance.
My only internet access is through my phone, I'm using wireless teather to type this now, so errors are no option for me, saddly.
I only use the basics of my phone, calls, text/mms, camera, internet, youtube, music player so less is more for me...out of the 7 screens, I barely qualify for using 3, I play most of the Storm8 games, but other than that, don't use much of the stock apps and would like to rid of as many as possible...if possible
I see now, that we've got an option for an improved boot without trackball required, which sounds like something that I should install, just as a precautionary to be on the safe side of things...
I've been reading the "How to theme" threads but I get kinda lost, even in the super noob easy ones...I'm feeling lost as to what I should do, I need step by step with visual...I feel re tarded!
i have become quite fond of the cm7 roms. they run fast and smooth. they all (i think, i know tazz and shed) have wireless tether working. you will lose sense with any cm7 though. themeing in cm7 is made especially easy in cm7 through t-mobiles theme engine. all you do is download and install a theme from the market, run the tmobile theme program, select the theme, and reboot. if you decide to go with a different rom, most themes are through metamorph which there should be several threads on. the froyo roims are also very stable. however, tazz's froyo with sense is the most complete sense on 2.2 and it is missing the camera and bluetooth audio. i saw you use the camera and so 2.2 sense may not be an option for you. it does have wireless tether though. if you like sense then a 2.1 like xtrsense is the way to go. the themes section should have all the information you need to get you up and theming. the only caution is to make sure the theme you select/apply is designed for your rom. amon ra recovery is usually the best way to go especially if you do not routinely check md5sums. the trackball usually starts to scroll left before failing, so unless you have that issue already, you probably do not need the trackballless recovery. however, as you suggested it is often better to be safe now then sorry later, i would pick an amon ra needing trackball over a clockwork without trackball since amon ra checks file integrity before flashing to try to avoid bricking you phone.
Thanks for the insight, yeah, I'm runnin xtrSENSE right now, it's what I flashed 8 months ago and have left it, there's a new version now, I started thinking though, maybe I should try somethin else, and something that I can theme.
I'm a minimalist which is why I was thinking maybe a NON-SENSE might be better suited for me. From what I understand, the SENSE ROMs are harder to theme and the CyanogenMod ROMs are probably going to be more what I'm looking for, since they're suppose to be easier to theme?
I'm kinda lookin for opinions and basics of things to get started learning some more customization skills. I'm also a windows guy and am lacking knowledge in MAC and Linux, which is seemingly where Andriod is based.
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Thanks for the insight, yeah, I'm runnin xtrSENSE right now, it's what I flashed 8 months ago and have left it, there's a new version now, I started thinking though, maybe I should try somethin else, and something that I can theme.
I'm a minimalist which is why I was thinking maybe a NON-SENSE might be better suited for me. From what I understand, the SENSE ROMs are harder to theme and the CyanogenMod ROMs are probably going to be more what I'm looking for, since they're suppose to be easier to theme?
I'm kinda lookin for opinions and basics of things to get started learning some more customization skills. I'm also a windows guy and am lacking knowledge in MAC and Linux, which is seemingly where Andriod is based.
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Vanilla ROMs and CM ROMs are definately easier to theme than Sense ROMs. Here's a good thread you can look through if you want to learn more. This is where I learned a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
Also all the devs here are very helpful and will always help in any way they can.
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Vanilla ROMs and CM ROMs are definately easier to theme than Sense ROMs. Here's a good thread you can look through if you want to learn more. This is where I learned a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916814
Also all the devs here are very helpful and will always help in any way they can.
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Yeah, I've been spendin most of my time reading that thread and the threads linked in there, there's a lot to read!
What's a good day to day, stable Vanilla or CM ROM? Are those all AOSP? or just the CM's? Maybe I'll just have to flash'em until I find one I like, then go from there with learning Themeing
if you are looking for a cm7 rom, i am currently using gingershedbread 1.6 although i have also used tazz's and it works equally as well. i had been using froyoshedyo previously as it is a very stable 2.3 cm6.2.
I personally run gsb 1.6 an i really like it...but before that i ran nonsensikal black and blue
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I'm running tazz blackened gingerbread now coming from his cm7 v6. Both are running great. The best thing to do though is try a few and see what you like best and what runs nest on your phone.
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I've downloaded both tenzomonks Vanilla 2.0.4. and Worksheds GSBv1.6 I'll have to check each of'em out Was gonna DL Tazz Froyos GB too and compare the three.
As for icons and what not, I know there's packages and theme zips you can download and pull images/icons and things from those, but can you pull from ROM's themselves? Without installing to the phone?
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I've downloaded both tenzomonks Vanilla 2.0.4. and Worksheds GSBv1.6 I'll have to check each of'em out Was gonna DL Tazz Froyos GB too and compare the three.
As for icons and what not, I know there's packages and theme zips you can download and pull images/icons and things from those, but can you pull from ROM's themselves? Without installing to the phone?
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Yes. Just open the zip and go through and find what you want. A lot of the icon's could be located within apk files which can be opened with 7zip or winrar. If they are theme icons then they might be located elsewhere. Just browse around until you find what you want lol That's what I did.
Well...I've got fewer than 10 posts so I'm stuck postin this question here rather than in the Vanilla ROM thread...
I flashed the Vanilla 2.0.4. ROM succesfully to my phone, but when doing a wipe, the Wipe SD:ext partition failed, I tried twice, failed both times, proceeded to install the ROM and everything went fine, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause any problems in the future?
I'm also wondering if I can totally format my SDcard and have a fresh phone, I've got everything backed up on the computer so I wouldn't think it'd be a big deal if an error occured, I could just put everything back on via backup on computer, right? Mabye, delete one at a time on the sd? Just would like to clean up a bit
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Well...I've got fewer than 10 posts so I'm stuck postin this question here rather than in the Vanilla ROM thread...
I flashed the Vanilla 2.0.4. ROM succesfully to my phone, but when doing a wipe, the Wipe SD:ext partition failed, I tried twice, failed both times, proceeded to install the ROM and everything went fine, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause any problems in the future?
I'm also wondering if I can totally format my SDcard and have a fresh phone, I've got everything backed up on the computer so I wouldn't think it'd be a big deal if an error occured, I could just put everything back on via backup on computer, right? Mabye, delete one at a time on the sd? Just would like to clean up a bit
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i'm not to familiar with tenzomonk's rom. most roms do not require you to wipe the sd card unless you need to change the partitions on it. however, i am not sure why your wipe of the sd card failed. if you are running windows, you can boot to recovery, mount sd card in recovery (very easy if you are running amons), when it shows up in your drive list, right click and format. then copy your flashable rom file to your sd card, unmount, rewipe data, reflash.
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I flashed the Vanilla 2.0.4. ROM succesfully to my phone, but when doing a wipe, the Wipe SD:ext partition failed, I tried twice, failed both times, proceeded to install the ROM and everything went fine, I'm just wondering if that's going to cause any problems in the future?
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Did you put an ext2 or ext3 partition on to your SD card? In other words, your SD card is normally a single FAT32 partition. Amon's Recovery gives you the option to create an ext2 partition and a swap partition - generally for apps2sd on 2.1 ROMs for the Eris - and also a way to convert that ext2 partition to ext3.
Wipe:ext will wipe an ext2 or ext3 partition on your SD card if you have one. It will not wipe the normal FAT32 partition on the SD card.
If you did not create an ext2 or ext3 partition on your SD card, then wipe:ext does nothing.
Yeah, I've never done anything to the SD so I'm assuming it's FAT32 and that's why it failed then, thanks, now I know why.
I've been trying to change the keyboard on this ROM with no luck, in the Vanilla ROM thread, there's a link to an HTC_IME.apk for the sense style keyboard, but when I installed those, nothing happend, I followed all instructions for setting up, using EStrong to install, then switching from android keyboard to multi-touch and the first install, the milti-touch wouldn't pop up, then I uninstalled/reinstalled and it "works" but the only difference between the two is the background color, milti is grey, droid is black...
I've got a few other things I'm wanting to change but I can't post in the Vanilla thread yet so I thank you guys for all your support and suggestions in this thread thus far
One other thing now too, I forgot to mention, I've only messed with this keyboard change and I've installed Dolphin browser, and it pops up saying storage space is low, yet under phone storage sdcard, it says available space is 6.17gb out of 7.39gb and phone storage is 139mb
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Yeah, I've never done anything to the SD so I'm assuming it's FAT32 and that's why it failed then, thanks, now I know why.
I've been trying to change the keyboard on this ROM with no luck, in the Vanilla ROM thread, there's a link to an HTC_IME.apk for the sense style keyboard, but when I installed those, nothing happend, I followed all instructions for setting up, using EStrong to install, then switching from android keyboard to multi-touch and the first install, the milti-touch wouldn't pop up, then I uninstalled/reinstalled and it "works" but the only difference between the two is the background color, milti is grey, droid is black...
I've got a few other things I'm wanting to change but I can't post in the Vanilla thread yet so I thank you guys for all your support and suggestions in this thread thus far
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This is a nifty keyboard solution i found. It is an online kitchen that lets you make your own custom keyboard. As far as i know, it would work with your ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654179 . I have personally used it and found it to be quite user friendly, easy to use, and free. I used it on KaosFroyo v32 FYI.
KamikazeChris said:
One other thing now too, I forgot to mention, I've only messed with this keyboard change and I've installed Dolphin browser, and it pops up saying storage space is low, yet under phone storage sdcard, it says available space is 6.17gb out of 7.39gb and phone storage is 139mb
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Does it give you the "low space" notification in the status bar? If so, when you go to menu->settings->storage "internal storage" What is listed as your available space? Is that where you see the 139mb free? Could be a rom issue? With GingerShedBreaad 1.7 and about 50 apps installed, I have 67mb free and never get the status bar "low space" notification.
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This is a nifty keyboard solution i found. It is an online kitchen that lets you make your own custom keyboard. As far as i know, it would work with your ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654179 . I have personally used it and found it to be quite user friendly, easy to use, and free. I used it on KaosFroyo v32 FYI.
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I tried that one too, same results
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Does it give you the "low space" notification in the status bar? If so, when you go to menu->settings->storage "internal storage" What is listed as your available space? Is that where you see the 139mb free? Could be a rom issue? With GingerShedBreaad 1.7 and about 50 apps installed, I have 67mb free and never get the status bar "low space" notification.
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To quote myself:
KamikazeChris said:
One other thing now too, I forgot to mention, I've only messed with this keyboard change and I've installed Dolphin browser, and it pops up saying storage space is low, yet under phone storage sdcard, it says available space is 6.17gb out of 7.39gb and phone storage is 139mb
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So I'm wondering if maybe I should wipe and reinstall this ROM again, and maybe clear my SDcard as well, any suggestions on what format to run on the SD if I do format? The low storage notification pops up when I long press to switch keyboards, nothing in status bar
Ok I am not a nooby to rooting and have done it on many devices.
I will say this though I have never seen so many different ways to root one device.
So far I like the sd card root method. But any way here are my questions.
1. what is the best way to Root? Possibly the Sd card way?
2. How Do I repartition the Nook To be able to Utilize the 13Gb of space on it
3.Is there a way to sideload the Android Market (Google Play)?
4. How do you put on CWM
5. What is the most stable Rom that gets rid of bloatware and feels the most like Gingerbread. If its CM7 which version.
If you want you can just point me to Thread links. I am not afraid to read or anything. Its just that there seem to be 7 ways to everything I just asked about and its a little confusing to know which direction to go.
So any help would be appreciated. Thanks so much.
1. The SD card way definitely.
2. Easiest thing to do is take it to B&N and have them do it. You can do it yourself though with this thread.
3. If you only root, the sd card way of rooting will automatically add the play store.
4. Indirect has an app here that will allow you to flash CWM or the stock recovery (the latter option is good for if you ever need to return the device to stock conditions). Simple and easy. This app is actually included with the sdcard root method (it'll be on the sdcard after you burn the image to the sdcard). So once you are in the B&N OS with root access, you'll be able to use a file manager to find the apk for this app, install it and then flash CWM.
5. CM7 Final is the basis for the other CM7 roms. CM9 is cool too though, albeit hardware acceleration does not work yet so things like Netflix and higher end games do not work. I've also listed all current roms that are out for the nook tablet here.
It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing and possibly some experience with Android so you know the drill. Read thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will be fine. Good luck.
Cubanluke88 said:
1. The SD card way definitely.
2. Easiest thing to do is take it to B&N and have them do it. You can do it yourself though with this thread.
3. If you only root, the sd card way of rooting will automatically add the play store.
4. Indirect has an app here that will allow you to flash CWM or the stock recovery (the latter option is good for if you ever need to return the device to stock conditions). Simple and easy. This app is actually included with the sdcard root method (it'll be on the sdcard after you burn the image to the sdcard). So once you are in the B&N OS with root access, you'll be able to use a file manager to find the apk for this app, install it and then flash CWM.
5. CM7 Final is the basis for the other CM7 roms. CM9 is cool too though, albeit hardware acceleration does not work yet so things like Netflix and higher end games do not work. I've also listed all current roms that are out for the nook tablet here.
It sounds like you have a decent idea of what you're doing and possibly some experience with Android so you know the drill. Read thoroughly and follow directions to the T and you will be fine. Good luck.
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Holy cow your awesome!! Thank you soooo much. Have y'all considered stickying those threads? You guys have alot of information here. One more thing. If I am understanding you correctly your saying that if I use the sd card root method, it automatically puts on google play? That would be awesome if it does.
Again thanks a million.
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After I put on CM7 will google play still be there?
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Actually looking at the list of apps that is included with the root script, it doesn't seem the play store is listed. Regardless, its trivial to add.
And if you decide to go custom rom, its as simple as flashing gapps after you flash the rom.
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Google mandates that the play store and other google apps cannot be included with roms. However, you can fetch google apps from here and flash them after flashing an AOSP rom like CM7 or CM9. Just make sure you flash the right ones (i.e. cyanogenmod 7 package for CM7).
Cubanluke88 said:
Actually looking at the list of apps that is included with the root script, it doesn't seem the play store is listed. Regardless, its trivial to add.
And if you decide to go custom rom, its as simple as flashing gapps after you flash the rom.
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Google mandates that the play store and other google apps cannot be included with roms. However, you can fetch google apps from here and flash them after flashing an AOSP rom like CM7 or CM9. Just make sure you flash the right ones (i.e. cyanogenmod 7 package for CM7).
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Well my friend. You just made my life a ton easier. Sincerely Thank you. Now I can't wait for my Nook Tablet to get here. It will probably be on Wednesday.
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is there any pitfalls if you partition the drive where you have all 13 gigs available to you and none for the B&N section of the tablet?
I called B&N and they said if they partition it they do about half and half and will not give you access to the whole Hard Drive. Boo!!
Basically, if you opt for more "media storage" then you forfeit space for /userdata which is app install storage.
This step:
Give a value between 11.6 and 13.6 that will leave you with>> 11.6GB: 4GB for /userdata | 13.6: 2GB for /userdata
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Basically portrays the min/max potential here. If you opt for 11.6 "media" storage, then you will be left with 4GB for app installation. If you opt for the max, 13.6GB, then you will be left with 2GB app installation.
You could always redo it as well I believe.
Cubanluke88 said:
Basically, if you opt for more "media storage" then you forfeit space for /userdata which is app install storage.
This step:
Basically portrays the min/max potential here. If you opt for 11.6 "media" storage, then you will be left with 4GB for app installation. If you opt for the max, 13.6GB, then you will be left with 2GB app installation.
You could always redo it as well I believe.
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Hey brother now that I have the Nook partitoned and have CM7 what's the best way to access the 8 gigabytes for user data via the pc?
ps thank you for all of the help you gave me and for pointing me in the righ direction. You made this pretty simple
Thank you!!
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Check out this post for changes that can be made to the build.prop file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23487384
I thought these changes were made to the rom but maybe not. If these lines in your build.prop file are different, change them to look how they're shown in this post and you should be able to mount the internal media storage and your sdcard.
Note that if you decide to try cm9, there is no support yet for mounting the internal media on a computer.
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same boat, with additional ? about list item #4
I was able to complete item#1(sd card root method), without a hitch. It looks like the only place to flash cwm (item#4) is internal mem. Is there a way to flash to an sd card, so I can choose to pull out sd and boot to stock rom if I wanted to? Thanks
...or maybe I can already boot to CWM from this sd boot, but I'm just not doing it yet(don't know how)?
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I was able to complete item#1(sd card root method), without a hitch. It looks like the only place to flash cwm (item#4) is internal mem. Is there a way to flash to an sd card, so I can choose to pull out sd and boot to stock rom if I wanted to? Thanks
...or maybe I can already boot to CWM from this sd boot, but I'm just not doing it yet(don't know how)?
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Sounds like you want to make a bootable CWM SD card: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446987
I will have to check that when I get home. Is there a way to make the Icons bigger kind of like the I-pad? No I wont be using cm9. I need a fully functional Android Tablet.
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swc2001 said:
Is there a way to make the Icons bigger kind of like the I-pad?
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there is that app 'spare parts' ?
swc2001 said:
No I wont be using cm9. I need a fully functional Android Tablet.
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yes, count me as being the same way. cm7 is 'really' good for being called an alpha. a little bird tells me it never will be fixed up . . . shame . . . ( on the twelfth of never ? )
Im confused...
Edit:Made a new thread, seems i had more questions than i thought...
Just a quick question don't wanna make a new thread for this:
What i want to do is extend my media drive for my own books and videos and also id like to Root via the sd card method as mentioned in the 2nd post here.
I'm wondering in which order to do it all though.
1. should i get adb tools working first doing the first part only in this video (as instructed in this thread i think?)and then use the CWM included in the sd-card method?
Or
2. Start with the sd card method and then install adb tools and extend my media partition?
Also do i need to worry about the Tools part which is the 3rd thing you need for extending your partition, unless something goes wrong?
ROM Manager asks to install a different version of CWM than team epic provides here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28113755
Anyone know what the difference is? The only reason I prefer to use ROM Manager is that its easy to name backup files so I can keep them organized when I go between different roms.
Speaking of ROM Manager, anyone having success using it on their GS3 for backups and such?
Restola said:
ROM Manager asks to install a different version of CWM than team epic provides here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28113755
Anyone know what the difference is? The only reason I prefer to use ROM Manager is that its easy to name backup files so I can keep them organized when I go between different roms.
Speaking of ROM Manager, anyone having success using it on their GS3 for backups and such?
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I had team epics Cwm & it was working fine & writing backups to my external storage as well as allowing me to install zips etc from external storage. I flashed the cwm from rom Manager & it says it can't find my external sd card, so I'm going back to team epics version myself. Some have said that Rom managers version worked for them, but a lot of ppl I've talked to said it hasn't. If you've got a working version, I'd stick with it for now. I hope I've helped you out some...
I just gave it another try.
My update: The CWM flashed from ROM manager seems to work fine on its own (identically to the team epic version, including ext sd backups), but the ROM manager app doesn't seem to function well. It wont initiate a backup from the app UI without an error message in CWM, and the app ui can't see backups on the external SD card.
So the CWM version is fine, but the ROM manager app is still non-working.
(this is on sprint gs3)
title shows the way it is...i've had it UP TO HERE with Boot manager.
I love the HTC Sense 4.1 camera on Newts HTC One XxX ROM but I dont like the bloaty sense framework that It has...right now i'm running AOKP 1.6 Linaro because it's fast and has no sense. unfortunately, I can't have both..and I found out that an app can "dual boot" your phone into 2 separate ROMS so that you can enjoy both. However i've been having NOTHING but PROBLEMS with boot manager. What started off as a simple idea has become a curse spewing nightmare
I'm s-Off and running Snuzzo's kernel from AOKP 1.6
1. I've searched the forums and done everything that other people have said
2. I'm using the Lite Version of Boot Manager since I only need one slot.
3. I have errors with "Error building new boot.img"
4. Disabled SU Logging and even wiped and tried SuperSU instead! (with logging disabled of course)
5. tried to install slot 1 via Zip file AND NANDROID BACKUP. Still having issues!
6. When installs are successful with no errors, when rebooting into the SDCARD Rom it just hangs at the HTC splash screen. mocking me.
7. Tried installing from external and internal storage..same problems...and i'm having a flip flop issue as well in regards to that..**
I'm at my wits end and am about to scrap this whole dual boot idea
**What I will say is that file explorer apps show my SD card as Internal Storage. and the internal storage shows my SDcard files...dafuq?! maybe SD card format?? that's for another forum question though...
If anyone can help me get this to work..I'll thank you and be sure to buy the app. But as for now...I'm glad I didn't spend my damn money!
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title shows the way it is...i've had it UP TO HERE with Boot manager.
I love the HTC Sense 4.1 camera on Newts HTC One XxX ROM but I dont like the bloaty sense framework that It has...right now i'm running AOKP 1.6 Linaro because it's fast and has no sense. unfortunately, I can't have both..and I found out that an app can "dual boot" your phone into 2 separate ROMS so that you can enjoy both. However i've been having NOTHING but PROBLEMS with boot manager. What started off as a simple idea has become a curse spewing nightmare
1. I've searched the forums and done everything that other people have said
2. I'm using the Lite Version of Boot Manager since I only need one slot.
3. I have errors with "Error building new boot.img"
4. Disabled SU Logging and even wiped and tried SuperSU instead! (with logging disabled of course)
5. tried to install slot 1 via Zip file AND NANDROID BACKUP. Still having issues!
6. When installs are successful with no errors, when rebooting into the SDCARD Rom it just hangs at the HTC splash screen. mocking me.
7. Tried installing from external and internal storage..same problems...and i'm having a flip flop issue as well in regards to that..**
I'm at my wits end and am about to scrap this whole dual boot idea
**What I will say is that file explorer apps show my SD card as Internal Storage. and the internal storage shows my SDcard files...dafuq?! maybe SD card format?? that's for another forum question though...
If anyone can help me get this to work..I'll thank you and be sure to buy the app. But as for now...I'm glad I didn't spend my damn money!
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From what ive heard the app has been abandoned by the developers. I wanted to dual boot too but I got the same error with the error building new boot.img as well so i quit trying. btw are you s-off? the app requires s-off so it can flash the other boot.img of the Sd roms.
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From what ive heard the app has been abandoned by the developers. I wanted to dual boot too but I got the same error with the error building new boot.img as well so i quit trying. btw are you s-off? the app requires s-off so it can flash the other boot.img of the Sd roms.
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yes..I'm S-Off and recently in April of this year the developer made an update to support the Rezound. So even if the app has been abandoned for future devices....it supports the Rezound...and I've looked in the forums and people HAVE got it working on the Rezound. Pisses me off that It's not working for me
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yes..I'm S-Off and recently in April of this year the developer made an update to support the Rezound. So even if the app has been abandoned for future devices....it supports the Rezound...and I've looked in the forums and people HAVE got it working on the Rezound. Pisses me off that It's not working for me
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Same with me it was part of the reason i went to s-off. Hopefully sometime in the future the dev of the app can update it to fix the bugs.
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Same with me it was part of the reason i went to s-off. Hopefully sometime in the future the dev of the app can update it to fix the bugs.
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what about the other people that have got it working???...how come they didn't have to quit?
Maybe the AOKP ROM i'm using is bad (since the SD CARD and INTERNAL MEMORY labels are switched and it possibly is confusing the boot partition)...perhaps I should try installing the AOKP Rom on sense
Took me a few tries but I did this :
Use ext4
Use internal sd
Force screen on
Install from nandroid
For me it's actually easier to just restore nandroids if u wanna jump from one rom to another..
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Squirrel is right ot much easier to just make a nandroid and bounce back and forth..
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Took me a few tries but I did this :
Use ext4
Use internal sd
Force screen on
Install from nandroid
For me it's actually easier to just restore nandroids if u wanna jump from one rom to another..
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In AOKP the labels are switched..so use the bullet option "external SD" because the internal SD is labeled as the external.
INTERESTING: when I set boot manager to install to internal (i have to select "external) it STILL installs it to the sdcard but in a folder that says sdcard/sd-ext.
NOT to the actual internal memory. I will move that folder to the real internal memory when the install finishes and see if it will work. If not. I'm almost POSITIVE that the switched Internal Memory and SD card labels in AOKP are to blame...and it that's not the problem. boot manager can f$#k itself.
Edit: I fuking quit. I did everything and the install worked from a sense ROM.but it past the splash screen and hung at a black screen.
I'm such a whore for screencast and that 4.1 Sense camera..i'll stay with One xXx for a while (even though sense ROMS are against my grain)
Boot manager hasn't worked properly with aosp since the mount points were fixed in aosp. It's the way it differs from sense. Using emmc as internal unlike sense which It's mounted as sd card. You can use it to switch between sense roms all you want to but not aosp
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im not sure if this is one of the problems but i noticed when i tried to use it earlier that it asked if i was on the newest hboot (2.21) or an older one but we are actually on 2.27 so that could be messing with things
I used to use Boot Manager with 2.25 with no issues, and there isn't much difference between 2.25 and 2.27.
I'm in a very similar boat....I have a recent ota RUU and s-off and bootmanager actually installs for me (yay) but I never have data. EVER. Data never works for any slot roms, only for my phone rom. I hear this is because of AOKP vs sense. My phone rom is Viper rom, and I tried to put AOKP linario for my slot 1. It installs and boots fine but I dont have data. I also tried MIUI but again no data. However if I put them on my phone rom, I have data. I figured I put it on the phone rom, make a nand, put viper back as my phone rom, then nand restore MIUI or linario to a different slot ..... no go - still no data. I think I read here that at this point I can only user boot manager to switch between sense roms and not between aokp/sense.
If it's also true that they dropped support for it I will be extremely sad. I paid for an app that doesn't even work/have suppor then .......
I actually just pm'd both devs the other day. I'd have emailed but their email rejects anything saying "over quota" or something. And their forums give me a 500 http server error.
If you make and headway let me know because I'm lost too
I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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I hope I am in the right forum for this thread. I have plenty of questions and hope to get answers to a few..... Here goes -
A few weeks ago I bought a nook 16Gb Tablet essentially for my wife and created a CM7 SD card to allow using it in stock BN system as well as experiment with Android use from that card. The end result is I decided I needed one for myself so I wouldn't conflict with her use. I had months ago rooted my nook eink but regardless of its expanded capability it was still only a great ebook reader and hopeless as a web browser, etc. So bought a Certified Preowned 16Gb nook Tablet for myself and duplicated the CM7 SD card process and was able to switch between stock nook use and Andorid use from the SD card using the dual boot process. I found myself mostly in the Andorid side and began to wonder why I was keeping the unused nook side around. After a ton of forum reading I decided to root my tablet and leave my wife's in its dual boot format - undoubtedly a safe move....
I used this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583&page=24
it is titled:
How to root 1.4.1 (or any other version) using just an sdcard {easy}
and I followed the detailed steps and links from "liquidzoo" post #240. Creating the SD card for the rooting process was easy. It went well up to the point of the step of powering up after inserting the SD card in the powered down nook. It kept booting into the stock BN nook side by use of the power on button. It began booting to the SD card only after I allowed it to power up by plugging it into my pc with the usb cord. Then the following steps went fine after I discoverd I had to use the volume controls to step through the menu selections. Thereafter it did go smoothly through the process. When the process indicated it had completed powered off, removed the SD card, and powered up into Android.
It seems to be somewhat faster than using Android from a dual boot (CM7 on SD card). I guess I missed somewhere that it would have dual a home selection menu allowing the stock nook home menu choice along with Android - so the best of both worlds. I am still familiarizing my self with the new configuration but so the fiirst of a few questions are:
Aside from experimentation, is there any way of finding out what all the icons in the status bar are for on the vbarious screens? Some are obvious but at one point I had a flashing-inverted-chevron icon that seemed to be maybe a downloading indicator but I couldn't find what.
Is there a simple toggle to switch from nook to android screens? Seems to be several taps to achieve that.
How do I install the Amazon Android App? I can' seem to find it.
I'll probably reply to this with other questions after I do more experimenting but answers to these woiuld be helpful.
Thanks in advance. I'm still a noob so I can't post to the link above but I think somewhere I saw the ability to 'Thank' as well as 'Donate' - both of which I need to do now. I think I'm really going to like the newly configured nook Tablet.
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First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
The difference from your current setup is that right now, the core of the device is still based on B&N version of Android. The alternate user interface is nothing more than a tease of what Android is truly capable of. A custom rom opens up many more doors and should be a much smoother experience.
Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
A bit to more to chew on....
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Now, just so we're on the same page.
You created an sd card that allowed you to boot into a custom recovery and then using the volume up/down buttons, navigated to install and installed a zip file that allowed you to root the device correct?
If that is the case, you are still on the stock OS (as it sounds from your description). This is why you have both the stock B&N user interface (launcher) and a custom one (the one that looks more like cm7 did when booting from an sdcard).
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Any questions post them. And please read the first post of the thread I linked.
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Also, I'm morally obligated to advise you to return the Nook and buy a Nexus 7, if you truly prefer the Google experience.
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Thank you, Cubanluke88, for you thoughts and suggestions.
First, I did grab your first linked post and realized some misconceptions. I still need to digest it more thoroughly, though.
On the part of your response that I have edited out in the qoute, I also want to read more troroughly and pose some questions in a later response.
As for the final suggestion, I have been eyeing the Nexus 7 for some time ane even though it is a bit more expensive than the nook Tablet I currently own I think I might get it (or a similar device) when fortune and convenience presents itself. For now, I am still in a learning mode with the Android-like device I currentlhy have and need to read and educate myself further. As stated in my opening post - I am a noob - there is a lot of experimenting I need to do.
I will be replying with some questions after more reading and thought on your offered suggestions in the section I edited out for the time being.....
questions....again
Cubanluke88 said:
First, read this.
Still have that custom recovery card? Here's my suggestion. Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store). Store these files on your internal storage. Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache. DO NOT FORMAT SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT (people do this for some reason, I don't understand why and it breaks things - don't do it.) Upon rebooting, you will no longer have the stock OS installed You will have a custom rom, cm7 installed.
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Cubanluke88,
Thanks again for giving me something to think about.
I have read/reread both of your linked posts and your complete response to my post. Further, it is useful to comment that with my nook Tablet hardware it is not at all important for me to have the BN OS. I have a classic nook eink that is totally satisfactory for anything I may need for BN usage alone - mostly, ebook purchase and reading. I purchased the tablet as a means to get access to Android applications not possible from the nook classic which was also hopeless as a general web access device. As a rooted Android device, I anticipate it's nook app to be satisfactory as an ebook reader as well.
Referring to the quoted segment of you initial response:
Still have that custom recovery card?
Yes.
Download a custom rom like cm7 and the appropriate gapps file (google apps, including the play store) Store these files on your internal storage..
Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
Next, boot back into the custom recovery and create a backup. Then, just as you did before, navigate to installing a zip and find the cm7 zip file you found before. Install the gapps zip file as well. When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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When you're done, wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache.
Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
I appreciate the help and apologise for the need for spoon feeeding but I hope it helps avoid making further mistakes......
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
Thanks in advance....
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Can you suggest a pointer? I get swamped and cofused on what to choose when I google. The verison I have filed on my PC is embedded in an SD image file and I suspect that is not what you were referring to ( I have: -->> "Team-B-CM7SD-Alpha_final.img".
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That .img file is what you used to create the sdcard your wife and you used. Just as with the recovery sd card, you take said .img file and burn it to it to create a "bootable" sdcard. Thats not what we want to do now (if you're ready to replace the stock OS). Go to this thread for cm7. See where it says "Internal version 8GB & 16GB Compatiable?" Grab that. That is the rom zip file itself. To get gapps, youll need cm7 compatible gapps, found here.
By "internal storage" do you mean in the recovery card or within the Tablet through USB connection?
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By internal storage, I'm referring to the internal storage on the Nook itself. (like what you see when you mount it via USB on your computer). It should come up as "My Nook" or something to that effect. If you store the rom zip file here, you will be able to boot into recovery via the sdcard you created, navigate to the internal storage and find the zip file and install it. Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
The easiest way to get a custom recovery is via this app here. Simply install the app and flash the custom recovery within it. Its also a great tool to return to stock recovery should you ever need to.
The backup would be my current loaded system - in case I need to get back?
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Yep.
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Is this a single menu item on the recovery card or separate commands?
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Its in the recovery menu there right at the front. You should see something like reboot system, apply sdcard, wipedata/factory reset, wipe cache, install zip, backup and restore. Backup/restore to backup your current installation, install zip to install the rom + gapps, and wipe data/factory reset + wipe cache after installation.
One last thought, on the recovery card I downloaded and included "flash_B&N_Stock_v1.4.3_8-16gb_emmc" which I assume would restore to stock 1.4.3 BN version. Is that prossible? and would that be easier to do and start fresh?
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I'm not sure what this is. I'll take a look at it.
Cubanluke88 said:
Now personally, I would recommend, that if you plan on using internal roms, that you should also change the internal recovery to a custom one. With an internal custom recovery, you could swap between various roms without ever needing to use that recovery sd card. You would simply boot into recovery, grab the zip file for whatever custom rom you want to use and install it.
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Read much of the following thread and while I think it will be simpler in the future I assume I can do that at any time. Right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458630
Albert Wertz's youtube video throws a lot of stuff into the process which looks very interesting but I think I'll "crawl" around a bit and use recovery card for little longer while I become more familiar with a rooted tablet.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......
Note that if you install cm7 to the device, you are not simply on a "rooted" tablet anymore. You will be on a custom rom that also happens to have root access (most custom roms do). Its also worth noting that cm7 is a custom rom based on Android 2.3.4, so the roms capabilities and limitations will be subsequently limited to what cm7 is capable of. The latest version of Android is 4.1 and we are lucky enough to have a custom rom (cm10) in development based on it.
sawbuck00;33537204.
I grabbed the CM7 and gapp zips you pointed to and I'm going to give that a whirl with my current recovery card and post back with results - hopefully good......[/QUOTE said:
Well it seemed to go smoothly. Currently geting updates downloaded. Back to exploring and experimenting....
Thank you, Cubanluke88, for help and advice. I expect I'll be back in awhile when I'm ready to install the internal recovery app and probably will screw things up at some point but it is my aim to get a better understanding the capabilities......
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undeeded apps
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
TIA....
sawbuck00 said:
Been doing some exploring and contemplating addition of a few apps. However, some of the apps loaded with CM7 and Gapps (like car home, phone, camera to name a few) don't make sense on a nook tablet - unless I'm missing a reason they should be there. What is the best way of uninstalling/deleting these or any I may install but discover no need for?
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They're there because cm7 is a port of a phone based OS (Android 2.3 was designed for phones). You can disable them but I believe camera is tied to gallery so that could screw up picture viewing and phone might be tied to contacts so that could screw up your contacts database if you use gmail. If you have a file explorer that has root access (I use root explorer, paid app in play store), you can navigate to /system/apps and all the apks for those apps (system apps) are found there. You can add a ".bak" extension to each one, then reboot and see if anything breaks. If for some reason things break really badly, you can always reboot to recovery and just flash the rom on top of it again.