I've noticed my data speeds getting slower over the past few days. I thought it might have been the new Atrix Rom I am running. However, I just read an article from Droid Life and it seems Verizon is now trying to throttle the data usage.
Does anyone know if we have any way to remove the data throttle from the Droid X2?
Thanks
Data Throttling is typically done on the carrier-side of things, meaning that modifying the phone itself won't accomplish anything.
It's similar to how they filter out certain apps from the Android Market; there's no way for us to get around them doing so, because the data is filtered before it ever reaches the phone. The best we can do is use a different source(i.e, Wifi) to access it.
The same principle applies to throttling.
snowman7 said:
I've noticed my data speeds getting slower over the past few days. I thought it might have been the new Atrix Rom I am running. However, I just read an article from Droid Life and it seems Verizon is now trying to throttle the data usage.
Does anyone know if we have any way to remove the data throttle from the Droid X2?
Thanks
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I've noticed this too when tethering with WatchESPN. Quality is great for awhile, then starts to get a little ugly. Damn you Verizon.
L2_n19h7m4r3 said:
I've noticed this too when tethering with WatchESPN. Quality is great for awhile, then starts to get a little ugly. Damn you Verizon.
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Yea same here when watching netflix.. I hate Verizon for this.. wish we could do something about it..
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flamebeats said:
Yea same here when watching netflix.. I hate Verizon for this.. wish we could do something about it..
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Switch to Sprint. At least that's what I'm doing after my contract is up.
Just like insurance. Their your friend unless you use it.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/16/verizon-starts-optimizing-read-throttling-network-for-the-m/
The article mentions something about a notification on your billing statement ... either way, I wonder if this 'change' constitutes grounds for early termination of your contract without penalty?
Pj
pdinphx said:
The article mentions something about a notification on your billing statement ... either way, I wonder if this 'change' constitutes grounds for early termination of your contract without penalty?
Pj
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They might give you a option to get off the contract if you are being throttled, but remember if you do so you would never be able to go back and get the unlimited data package. When i worked for clear(4G wireless company) we had a process called N.I.M.S (network integrity management system) which means a stupid computer that was programmed with different levels and data usage values and if you went above these values guess what you just got on the N.I.M.S list and when you get on it once you never get off, sad i know but its true. I recently got fired from there because the closed all the US call centers and the moved the operations to the Philippines, damn US government to allow moving jobs over sea's :'(
Forgot something, the policy at clear was that if you were on the N.I.M.S list you were able to get out of your contact with no early term fee's. But you worry not allow any kind of refund for the most recent bill cycle and i mean NONE even if you paid the bill less than a week ago, you would get denied of a refund.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/16/verizon-starts-optimizing-read-throttling-network-for-the-m/
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If its only 5% of us using over 2gigs of data,(which is b.s.), how is it a problem for the biggest network in America? Im going to sprint. Hello photon!!
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If its only 5% of us using over 2gigs of data,(which is b.s.), how is it a problem for the biggest network in America? Im going to sprint. Hello photon!!
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It's the top 5 percent of unlimited data users, so I doubt 2gb is the likit
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LancerV said:
It's the top 5 percent of unlimited data users, so I doubt 2gb is the likit
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I seriously doubt it's 5% of anything, I think Verizon throttles all of it's customers on the fly when the system sees a heavy data usage beyond a certain amount of time (Example, streaming) regardless of data plan.
I have unlimited data, this month I have only used 267MB of data on their network, streamed some ESPN the other night, and what do you know... throttled.
Verizon is a bunch of liars and cheats... that said, I do my share also. Thanks Verizon.
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I seriously doubt it's 5% of anything, I think Verizon throttles all of it's customers on the fly when the system sees a heavy data usage beyond a certain amount of time (Example, streaming) regardless of data plan.
I have unlimited data, this month I have only used 267MB of data on their network, streamed some ESPN the other night, and what do you know... throttled.
Verizon is a bunch of liars and cheats... that said, I do my share also. Thanks Verizon.
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Never had an issue with throttling and I use 8-10gb of data a month
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Would the old TBH no-throttle hack for the DX work on the DX2?
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+1 Bump
I will even donate to one's beer fund if they tell us that, and makes one if it doesn't work.
Any takers?
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I seriously doubt it's 5% of anything, I think Verizon throttles all of it's customers on the fly when the system sees a heavy data usage beyond a certain amount of time (Example, streaming) regardless of data plan.
I have unlimited data, this month I have only used 267MB of data on their network, streamed some ESPN the other night, and what do you know... throttled.
Verizon is a bunch of liars and cheats... that said, I do my share also. Thanks Verizon.
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How can u tell when u r throttled?
And I remember seeing a file called throttle or similar when going through root explorer one day. I forget where but I will look again tomorrow ...man I should be sleeping right now
I swear if I been getting throttled and I have only been a customers for few months I will snap on some reps lol
you can take this as you want,
belive me or not, but i went to a verizon store to get replacement droid x2, and me and this tech got talking, he had his phone rooted with custom roms and the whole lot, and knew alot about rooting, he told me they throttle you on the phone aka software, if you run custom com and are rooted, you wont get the throttle problem.
I was going to buy full price for the droid bionic, but he told me that verizon will get the Samsung galaxy S II phone, i dont think it will happen but he knew what he was talking about.
but overall take it how you want it.
but when i was running Eclipse 5 i hit on download speed 1.7mbps/800kps upload, the lowest i hit was 1.2mbps/500kps upload.
This is probably my lowest month ever, but I use my car dock to play Google Music in my car and I stream it. This month in 26 days I have only used 1.16GB of Data and on the outside of town I am getting 1.6mbps down 253kbps up on Eclipse Rom.
Okay I found where I saw throttle before in root explorer
/data/system> there is a folder named throttle with two script type files in it.
Anyone else have this? Know what it is?
I had thought it may be something to do with our cpu but I have np idea lol
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he told me they throttle you on the phone aka software, if you run custom com and are rooted
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If that is true this is a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
Related
I was in the Droid Bionic forum and came across this ( thanks jesziicuh) . It totally works I did it on my wife's line. If you have tired data, call *611, option 4, say add a feature, talk to a representative and add unlimited 4g hot spot to your tiered data line. They upgrade your data to unlimited to accommodate the unlimited hotspot. Then log into you verizonwireless account. Go to the row where it says plan. Then click on change features. Pick your phone you just upgraded, then scroll down and remove unlimited 4g hotspot. Worked like a charm!!! My wife's data tracker on her phone now says unlimited!!!! Got to love loop holes!
Edit: This might actually take several attempts to accomplish. I have heard some people have tried upwards of 5 times before actually receiving unlimited data.
Edit2: Thanks to nomisunrider we have the actual plan code the verizon rep uses to add 4g unlimited MHS. plan code #76153 — $30 Unlimited 4G Mobile Hotspot. I would still ask for the 4g unlimited MHS first and if they give you trouble tell them you were told the plan code is 76153. Hope this helps and cuts down on the amount of calls some people have to make.
watch verizon catches on to this like they did with the early rezound orders
They probably will, so do it now before its too late.
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They probably will, so do it now before its too late.
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I wish I could do this via the web interface. I am not my account holder so I can't call in.
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They probably will, so do it now before its too late.
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What's tired data?
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rambo8987 said:
What's tired data?
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I think he mean tiered data...
k8826324 said:
I think he mean tiered data...
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Well what's tiered data? Srry I'm new to verizon
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rambo8987 said:
Well what's tiered data? Srry I'm new to verizon
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means if you pay different amount of money to get different amount
of data allowance. Coz verizon canceled their unlimited data plans
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What's tired data?
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Sorry I forgot to proof read my post. Just wanted to put the info out there as fast as possible. TIERED DATA!!!
I'm pretty sure that Verizon will change your wife's plan back to tiered. Gotta love people always finding ways to exploit companies, and proceed to comaplin when the company comes up with a policy to counter. Prime example were the warranty exchanges issued by Verizon. Even if there was a minor blemish say from a manufactering issue there is a higher chance they would get on your case and charge you $300. That's thanks to people sending in phones that work but with physical damage. Ie someones dog chewed through their phone ,or they dropped the phone with the screen cracked. People exploit and then cry when the company cracks down.
If they change it back so be it. My wife was happy before, but if they don't oh well. Why should we both pay the same for data but I have unlimited and she has 4 gigs. Just cause Verizon wanted to be a bunch of D bags and be like AT&T. Your telling me you have never went to a store and bought something that was miss priced and you knew the price was wrong but still fought to get what the lower price was. Dude this is a modding forum. Not bash everyone forum. Everything in this place is about bending the rules and coming up with work arounds set in place by the carrier and maker of the phone. You are no better than anyone else here.
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If they change it back so be it. My wife was happy before, but if they don't oh well. Why should we both pay the same for data but I have unlimited and she has 4 gigs. Just cause Verizon wanted to be a bunch of D bags and be like AT&T. Your telling me you have never went to a store and bought something that was miss priced and you knew the price was wrong but still fought to get what the lower price was. Dude this is a modding forum. Not bash everyone forum. Everything in this place is about bending the rules and coming up with work arounds set in place by the carrier and maker of the phone. You are no better than anyone else here.
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Well said!
Just called gerizon they are updating their system I'm guessing they are patching this. Damn I was only 20 mine to late
I called and they told me that unless I was grandfathered in with unlimited data, I could not get unlimited 4 g hotspot.
Maybe they've already caught on.
On the other forum people said it took 3-4 times sometimes before someone would do it. For me I called once the lady said ok. I don't know if it matters I had unlimited on my line so she was able to do it for my other line(my wifes phone).
Lol just got a hold of someone. I ended up getting unlimited data and Sicily hotspot for a total of 29.99 a month to think I was paying a 100 just for 20 gigs.
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If they change it back so be it. My wife was happy before, but if they don't oh well. Why should we both pay the same for data but I have unlimited and she has 4 gigs. Just cause Verizon wanted to be a bunch of D bags and be like AT&T. Your telling me you have never went to a store and bought something that was miss priced and you knew the price was wrong but still fought to get what the lower price was. Dude this is a modding forum. Not bash everyone forum. Everything in this place is about bending the rules and coming up with work arounds set in place by the carrier and maker of the phone. You are no better than anyone else here.
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LOL never said I was "better" than anyone, don't know where you got that . Just saying carriers/providers crack down more because of crap like this. I rarely go to stores for major purchases so really haven't had to do the whole "rage angry customer to save a few bucks" stance yet. They're a business they want to make money, not a crime. If you don't like their policies/bundles then go to another carrier? Just saying you have your choices .
As a Verizon employee, I can promise you that the unlimited data will NOT stick. They audit accounts for things just like this, if you were not supposed to have it, the feature will be removed.
This has been going on for a few days now. I saw that one.person even talked to a supervisor and they said that yes if you get the hotspot it will give you unlimited data. Of course who knows how long it will last but it is something that is being automatically done not random employees doing it on there own.
Of course it does not.affect me as I am grandfathered in.
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Just called gerizon they are updating their system I'm guessing they are patching this. Damn I was only 20 mine to late
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on my two line acct...line 1 got terminated ...I called customer service on wifes phone. rep said it was due to excessive roaming data. they gave me the number for the "excessive roaming and data dept" they actually have that! . they were closed when I tried calling. best I can do is call in tomorrow and see if it is an error ...or this is how they are getting rid of us hogs!
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on my two line acct...line 1 got terminated ...I called customer service on wifes phone. rep said it was due to excessive roaming data. they gave me the number for the "excessive roaming and data dept" they actually have that! . they were closed when I tried calling. best I can do is call in tomorrow and see if it is an error ...or this is how they are getting rid of us hogs!
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I just got my letter a week ago for excessive roaming, the said they will terminate me if I don't resolve it. No more 00001.prl for me.
Eff Sprint and their pathetic 2.5g coverage...
What was your normal data usage?
Gee where have you been??? There is no unlimited data roaming. You need to read the fine print or even listen to the commercials they state it very clearly in the commercials that unlimited data on smart phones is on Sprint towers only. People have been getting their accounts terminated by Sprint for excessive data roaming for the last couple of years. Do a search of all forums and you will probably see a lot of threads. In fact if you want to get out of your contract that is one of the easiest ways. Install a Verizon PRL and go crazy on the data. Careful though, it also states in your contract that Sprint can bill you for the overage.
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Gee where have you been??? There is no unlimited data roaming. You need to read the fine print or even listen to the commercials they state it very clearly in the commercials that unlimited data on smart phones is on Sprint towers only. People have been getting their accounts terminated by Sprint for excessive data roaming for the last couple of years. Do a search of all forums and you will probably see a lot of threads. In fact if you want to get out of your contract that is one of the easiest ways. Install a Verizon PRL and go crazy on the data. Careful though, it also states in your contract that Sprint can bill you for the overage.
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They billed me 146 biggens in May when I joined for voice overages. Didn't realize it was only on the Sprint towers. Litterly I saw a month later them saying it on commericals.
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Wow. EXACTLY the same thing just happened to me today. Said it was for excessive data roaming which is bull**** because my sister had more roaming data and she still has service. My only guess is that it is a blanket excuse if you use a lot of regular data because they can't cancel you for that. Extremely bummed out and pissed about this right now.
EDIT: this last pay period was the only time I have roamed on data for this phone. They said they sent out 3 warning but we didn't receive any. Sorry if this sounds ranting or anything, I am just really frustrated with the whole situation.
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sorry to hear that but i am actually trying to get the boot on purpose. how much data did you have to use? I used 17 gigs roaming last billing cycle and im going to do as much as i can this cycle just need something to shoot for.
I wish 4G counted towards roaming :/ I need the boot from Sprint too lost my job a couple months back
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how much data did you have to use? I used 17 gigs roaming last billing cycle and im going to do as much as i can this cycle just need something to shoot for.
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You can't roam on 4g, what are you doing on 3g to get 17 gigs a month? Holy poop
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lil app called adownloader its a bittorrent client i run it all day
gohan5052 said:
lil app called adownloader its a bittorrent client i run it all day
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Pretty good way to get your accounts terminated. Sprint has zero tolerance for using their network for torrent downloads.... if they catch you, no warning. Just toast.
thatguy11285 said:
I wish 4G counted towards roaming :/ I need the boot from Sprint too lost my job a couple months back
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Just hope they boot you and thats it, you could get the boot and charged for how much data you've used on top of it.
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sorry to hear that but i am actually trying to get the boot on purpose. how much data did you have to use? I used 17 gigs roaming last billing cycle and im going to do as much as i can this cycle just need something to shoot for.
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just use bit torrent for a month, they'll get u
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when I really started pushing the lady she said it was because of the use of bit torrent and e donkey... they said I could come back in 6 to 9 months.
by everybody
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ROFL at this thread.
It's just funny how there are people on both ends of the spectrum:
One side is using too much data, not reading the contract, and getting booted for it.
The other side is using too much data, has read the contract, and is trying to get booted for it.
Nobody is talking about the fact that both sides are hogging the network and slowing down data for everyone else out there (whether Verizon's or Sprint's network). But hey, at least your going away.
~Jasecloud4
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ROFL at this thread.
It's just funny how there are people on both ends of the spectrum:
One side is using too much data, not reading the contract, and getting booted for it.
The other side is using too much data, has read the contract, and is trying to get booted for it.
Nobody is talking about the fact that both sides are hogging the network and slowing down data for everyone else out there (whether Verizon's or Sprint's network). But hey, at least your going away.
~Jasecloud4
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this is why sometimes i miss tmobile
and then i think about the 4 month straight throttle they threw on me
they couldnt even call of their beast when i was suppose to be unthrottled
and on that note i couldnt imagine paying outrages overages on data that verizon and ATT charge
thank god for the happy median :heart: sprint :heart:
This guy is running a torrent client on his phone 24/7. He deserves it.
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This guy is running a torrent client on his phone 24/7. He deserves it.
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I kinda agree. I'm not a goodie goodie by any means but clogging things up by running a torrent all day deserves more than just a boot IMO
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I kinda agree. I'm not a goodie goodie by any means but clogging things up by running a torrent all day deserves more than just a boot IMO
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He is violating 2 terms of conditions, not only one doing this. Chances are you were also warned before hand. If you weren't warned before hand then I believe the OP violating the ToS on two conditions is grounds enough.
I also don't understand why the OP put "usage on an unlimited plan" in the thread title. What does that have to do with his termination? Surely it is for empathy but I don't think he knew exactly he signed onto in regards to his excessive roaming use.
I think he was talking about me running the client
if it was an option i would gladly turn in my phone if they would let me out of my contract but its not. I have been lied to over and over about 4g coming to phoenix and i stuck with them because i knew it would get better. in the 18 months i have been with sprint not only have i been lied to about 4g coming but the 3g service has gotten to the point where its unusable. now sprint is changing over to lte that means my phone is pretty much useless its not a moral issue for me i refuse to pay for something im not getting.
So how much data do you norm use? How much have you ever used? What are your typical data speeds?
Previously for me, the most I had used was just over 25GB in one billing cyle (im grandfathered in for Unlim data).
Well this month I wanted to see what kind of damage I could do. Eventhough I didnt start using HEAVY data till the 18th of Jan (my cycle is the 1st-1st), I still used A LOT.
Keep in mind that not even 1 full GB was due to tethering. It was almost 100% on my phone.
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So how much data do you norm use? How much have you ever used? What are your typical data speeds?
Previously for me, the most I had used was just over 25GB in one billing cyle (im grandfathered in for Unlim data).
Well this month I wanted to see what kind of damage I could do. Eventhough I didnt start using HEAVY data till the 18th of Jan (my cycle is the 1st-1st), I still used A LOT.
Keep in mind that not even 1 full GB was due to tethering. It was almost 100% on my phone.
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Holy hell... certainly getting your moneys worth, eh? lol
I'm at 57.523 GB on VZW for this cycle....
We had some annual refresher training for work...and all my buddies were using my hotspot. And I do use it for my tabs also.....and I flash a lot of roms so therefore have a lot of downloads.
I've been a long time customer of VZW (approx 15 years) and normally I avg 5 to 10gb per month, but this darn 4G is so addicting.
Wow, you guys are insane (in the good way). I barely pull a measely 1GB monthly on my phone. Perhaps I should start tethering my phone to my laptop and watching Netflix shows regularly.
I did 4 last month, and I had 4g for 2 weeks max. I use Wifi a lot, so that cuts down on my data use..
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I did 4 last month, and I had 4g for 2 weeks max. I use Wifi a lot, so that cuts down on my data use..
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Yeah, same here. WIFI at home with a 100Mbps internet connection. 4G/LTE is great, but doesn't stand up to my broadband connection.
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Yeah, same here. WIFI at home with a 100Mbps internet connection. 4G/LTE is great, but doesn't stand up to my broadband connection.
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ive hit 2.2MB (yes, MEGA BYTES) download before. I was at work on a full 4G connection and some good seeds on a torrent haha
Fastest speed test ive gotten:
On 3G? LOL
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I hit ~6gb for January and I only have 3g lol.
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I hit 20gb last month. and that was mostly tethering. Like got556 said, 4g is very addicitive
wtf!! in france we have 1GB/month if we pass it, the speed is slow down!! and we just have 3G not 4G! i think we are very late
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On 3G? LOL
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I hit ~6gb for January and I only have 3g lol.
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last Nov i hit 25 on 3G
Usually no less than 1GB never have gone over 6GB... yet. I have unlimited data so I am hoping to break that 6GB personal record soon enough.
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So as we all know.. last billing cycle i used over 100GB of data.
Today i went in and dropped off my parents plan, my wife dropped Sprint and we started our own plan. I made sure that my unlim data was staying with me.
So everything was taken care of and while we were setting up my wifes new phone, she picked up the Droid 4, the rep who was helping us said he had to take care of something urgent on our plan. Ummm ok...
So after the phone was done i walk over to him and ask whats up. He said the unlim data didnt stick annnnnnnnnnnnd ive got an overage charge from data.
The
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Charge
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Seen.
It was just over $52,000 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I didnt believe him so he turned the screen and showed me. I BEGGED if I could take a pic but his manager was right next to him and he said no
But in the end it was taken care of and ive still got my unlim data :lol:
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So as we all know.. last billing cycle i used over 100GB of data.
Today i went in and dropped off my parents plan, my wife dropped Sprint and we started our own plan. I made sure that my unlim data was staying with me.
So everything was taken care of and while we were setting up my wifes new phone, she picked up the Droid 4, the rep who was helping us said he had to take care of something urgent on our plan. Ummm ok...
So after the phone was done i walk over to him and ask whats up. He said the unlim data didnt stick annnnnnnnnnnnd ive got an overage charge from data.
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It was just over $52,000 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I didnt believe him so he turned the screen and showed me. I BEGGED if I could take a pic but his manager was right next to him and he said no
But in the end it was taken care of and ive still got my unlim data :lol:
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Wow that's INSANE!!!!!!!! How did you manage to hit 100GB? Lol So I'm guessing everything was fixed and u didn't have to pay? Lol
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stupidchicken03 said:
So as we all know.. last billing cycle i used over 100GB of data.
Today i went in and dropped off my parents plan, my wife dropped Sprint and we started our own plan. I made sure that my unlim data was staying with me.
So everything was taken care of and while we were setting up my wifes new phone, she picked up the Droid 4, the rep who was helping us said he had to take care of something urgent on our plan. Ummm ok...
So after the phone was done i walk over to him and ask whats up. He said the unlim data didnt stick annnnnnnnnnnnd ive got an overage charge from data.
The
Biggest
Overage
Charge
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Seen.
It was just over $52,000 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I didnt believe him so he turned the screen and showed me. I BEGGED if I could take a pic but his manager was right next to him and he said no
But in the end it was taken care of and ive still got my unlim data :lol:
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*bows down* wow...i meesly do 5gigs...my gf did 61gigs...but to hear 100gigs is crazy. Oh yea my gf data is all on her phone too. No tethering
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So how much data do you norm use? How much have you ever used? What are your typical data speeds?
Previously for me, the most I had used was just over 25GB in one billing cyle (im grandfathered in for Unlim data).
Well this month I wanted to see what kind of damage I could do. Eventhough I didnt start using HEAVY data till the 18th of Jan (my cycle is the 1st-1st), I still used A LOT.
Keep in mind that not even 1 full GB was due to tethering. It was almost 100% on my phone.
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This is just blatant abuse of the unlimited data plan. No offense but I'm also rooted and have the free wireless tethering app and I barely go over 5gigs/month. Why anyone would purposely be a big humongous blip on Verizon's radar and openly brag about it is beyond me. I believe most of us that are rooted try to fly below the radar like me and not abuse the unlimited data plan. Like I said no offense, but it was customers like you that was one of the many reasons why the big wigs in big reds glass towers decided to end the unlimited data plan and move towards the tiered data plans.
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This is just blatant abuse of the unlimited data plan. No offense but I'm also rooted and have the free wireless tethering app and I barely go over 5gigs/month. Why anyone would purposely be a big humongous blip on Verizon's radar and openly brag about it is beyond me. I believe most of us that are rooted try to fly below the radar like me and not abuse the unlimited data plan. Like I said no offense, but it was customers like you that was one of the many reasons why the big wigs in big reds glass towers decided to end the unlimited data plan and move towards the tiered data plans.
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Ive heard of ppl CONSISTENTLY hitting 50+ gigs month after month..
I did this just to see at what point they would throttle me.. and it never happened.
Even on a normal month just using Netflix, few hours of Pandora each day, and torrent a tv episode a couple times a week.. Im regularly hitting 6-10 GB with ZERO tethering.
lol $52,000 holy crap man!
Well my post earlier I topped out at 68gb....and I'm only at 1GB this cycle
I had a lot going on the last cycle to bring it that high. I mean I have to purposely try to get above 10 to 20 gb....
Wow 102 GB is insane. .. I use an avg of 4 GB per week . Data is cheap in Airtel India ..
4 GB comes around 6 dollars.
Half way through the month and I'm at 50GB... I'm loving the unlimited data plan...
And that is why Verizon changed to shared data, because data hogs ruin it for everyone else. Have you heard of wifi? There are people who stay below 2 gb of data who enjoy getting a low priced upgrade at the end if their contract but who are afraid to because they will have to change to the new shared plan. I get 4 gb for the price of 2 on my current plan, still only use under half that. Thanks!
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They offered the plans, we were customers at the right time...there is no reason we cannot use it!
I'm still under an Unlimited plan and plan to keep it a good long while! I enjoy as much data as I wish a month
I'm sorry you were not able to keep it, dont hate the player...hate the game/provider!
I'm gonna go see how much data I can rack up before my bill cycle ends on the 5th
How is it even possible to use that much data? I would have to spend all my time consuming data.
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Buddy of mine has done it with Netflix
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And that is why Verizon changed to shared data, because data hogs ruin it for everyone else. Have you heard of wifi? There are people who stay below 2 gb of data who enjoy getting a low priced upgrade at the end if their contract but who are afraid to because they will have to change to the new shared plan. I get 4 gb for the price of 2 on my current plan, still only use under half that. Thanks!
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Your crazy if you think the 1% "data hogs" on the Verizon network have anything what so ever to do with shared plans. It's called corporate greed. Period. It's the same reason they let us keep it. If you want and are nice about it they still let you keep unlimited with a upgrade. They would rather keep the customer then lose one over the would be profit gained from share plans.
^This is not the first time I have heard this
Actually mine is Netflix/Amazon/and a few other type of sites. I'm currently in an area where dsl and cable are not available. So it's use what I have to see something on the screen or a couple of channels on an antenna.
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^This is not the first time I have heard this
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It was stated in an article that due to people using more data instead of calls/messaging, they flipped the billing around. Calls and messages cost nothing and they are raping on data now. Used to be the opposite.
Greed is the fuel.
I got in with the loophole. Im not going to ever let it go. Yea some months can be less but its football season. Ill rack on streaming like nobodys business.
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I got in with the loophole. Im not going to ever let it go. Yea some months can be less but its football season. Ill rack on streaming like nobodys business.
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Do you have NFL Mobile without the monthly fees also?
All I am saying is people using exorbitant amounts of data is the reason these phone companies started to limit the data plans and charge more. If it didn't happen they couldn't use that for a reason. Really, doesn't anyone have a job that they spend that much time watching Netflix? I guess we are back in the store age of you don't have access to cable or a dish network. If you are in that remote of an area I would imagine your cell service isn't that strong either.
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All I am saying is people using exorbitant amounts of data is the reason these phone companies started to limit the data plans and charge more. If it didn't happen they couldn't use that for a reason. Really, doesn't anyone have a job that they spend that much time watching Netflix? I guess we are back in the store age of you don't have access to cable or a dish network. If you are in that remote of an area I would imagine your cell service isn't that strong either.
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Lol not everyone lives in a major city. Matter of fact there are far more rural areas then major in the us. Have you not seen a Verizon commercial in the last couple years? They are marketing to the very people you think are abusing the network. They preload netflix on most models . We are far past the days of per meg or kb billing. Hell a single hd flick is atleast a few gigs. Be realistic man.
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All I am saying is people using exorbitant amounts of data is the reason these phone companies started to limit the data plans and charge more.
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Where is your proof? Oh wait, there is none, because your argument is bull****.
Yes I suppose if you're using your phone as a hot spot with no wifi available, you could run up quite a bit of data. I do watch a lot of shows online using my comcast high speed. I prolly use 50 GB per month or more.
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Do you have NFL Mobile without the monthly fees also?
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Ah no one has that. Thats a verizon app they charge for now. I use a streaming site for the games. If you got the last updated version of flash ur golden.
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All I am saying is people using exorbitant amounts of data is the reason these phone companies started to limit the data plans and charge more. If it didn't happen they couldn't use that for a reason. Really, doesn't anyone have a job that they spend that much time watching Netflix? I guess we are back in the store age of you don't have access to cable or a dish network. If you are in that remote of an area I would imagine your cell service isn't that strong either.
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Really. And cooperate greed has nothing to do with it or the fact they know they are a leading carrier in the US. All these companies want is to charge you more for less.
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They offered the plans, we were customers at the right time...there is no reason we cannot use it!
I'm still under an Unlimited plan and plan to keep it a good long while! I enjoy as much data as I wish a month
I'm sorry you were not able to keep it, dont hate the player...hate the game/provider!
I'm gonna go see how much data I can rack up before my bill cycle ends on the 5th
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The reason cmraymond stated is not the reason that Verizon is trying so hard to push people off of unlimited - this is the reason. You say that you're going to see how much data you can rack up before your bill cycle as if you're intentionally trying to use as much data as possible because you can. This seems to be a common thought among people who hold on to their unlimited data, and it does make cmraymond's hypothesis slightly more possible. You may be mad that Verizon wants to take your unlimited data, but the way to justice is not to abuse it as much as possible. That doesn't teach Verizon a lesson, that makes them want to try as hard as they possibly can to kick you off of it once and for all so that they can do other things with all that bandwidth. I'm not saying that it's right that Verizon wants to move everyone away from unlimited, but when I see posts like this, I understand their reasoning. It's precisely why I didn't care about switching to shared - I don't need to use unnecessary amounts of data just because I can, and often I don't. I like streaming HD video, but I don't need to be doing so 24/7 through mobile data. I like being able to stream music, but I found that it's just as simple to download the songs I listen to onto an SD card (I have about 120 or so songs on it, so it's not an incredibly large choice, but it barely uses any space so I'm sure people could download much more if they needed), so I don't need to stream every time I want to listen to music. Verizon expects people to be able to do the same things I've done, because it's reasonable. Using their network is a privilege, and unlimited data is not a right. They may have originally done away with unlimited data to get more money, but now I can understand the argument that they just genuinely want people to stop using so much data simply because they can use data.
I have unlimited data but I only use about 2 gb a month. I'm usually on wifi which is a lot faster.
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That's all I am saying. I see post after post of people who tethered because they don't have Internet. More likely reason is they don't want to pay for Internet and just use their phones data. Hello, I pay $40 for wireless Internet plus $ 100 bucks for cell phone with data. The people who do this run data sky high too. I just say own up to what you use and pay for it. I am not going to sugar coat it, and you can't deny that there are thousands of posts of people who tether without paying for it.
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I hit over 400GB month before last
Just thought I should share my thoughts regarding my latest warranty exchange....my WiFi was having issues on stock Rom unrooted so I called Verizon and see what they could offer.
Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
Factory reset(I though alright atleast were in the right area....)
Finally she proceeded to order me a replacement while telling me that Verizon doesn't tolerate abuse of the network or altering of devices, I asked why do you believe its altered and where is this abuse of your network? she replies, you use an extreme amount of data that is not likely to be consumed soley on the phone.
I couldn't stop laughing, I HONESTLY asked her if she got that from an episode of CSI? I then told her my unlimited plan doesn't include a clause for intruding questions about assumptions on how I use my phone. She quickly backed off and gave me a tracking number for the shipping.
I just was truly caught off guard after the years of having my plan and NEVER being questioned like this LOL....just my interaction and wanted to pass it along
Out of curiosity how much data was it? If you'd happen to know ?
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Unlimited!
Last month I used 96GB. I'm only half way through this billing cycle and already up to 52GB
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Last month I used 96GB. I'm only half way through this billing cycle and already up to 52GB
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Holly Crap Batman thats a lota data but you have the right to use it. Thats why the plan is called "Unlimited" right?
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Holly Crap Batman thats a lota data but you have the right to use it. Thats why the plan is called "Unlimited" right?
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That's what I'm saying.
When I called Verizon the week of the DNA launch, I asked the local store if they would have any devices in on that day. The rep asked me if I was upgrading my line and if I was he tried to sell me the SG3. I told him I was not upgrading, I didn't want that pos, and am planning to buy the DNA at retail price. His statement I clearly remember "Why on earth would you pay $600 for THAT phone when clearly you are eligible and able to get a better phone for $99" ... I said nicely that I would like to keep my unlimited data plan. Then he asked me, how much data do I use on a monthly basis ... I replied, usually 30-40GB+ depending. He said "depending?!! that much data should not be allowed, how can one person abuse Verizon..." I just interrupted him loudly saying ...I have UNLIMITED, UNLIMITED means there is no LIMIT! and hung up.
Since then, I blow my data out the water. Hit over 100GB last month myself and plan to do it continually
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That's what I'm saying.
When I called Verizon the week of the DNA launch, I asked the local store if they would have any devices in on that day. The rep asked me if I was upgrading my line and if I was he tried to sell me the SG3. I told him I was not upgrading, I didn't want that pos, and am planning to buy the DNA at retail price. His statement I clearly remember "Why on earth would you pay $600 for THAT phone when clearly you are eligible and able to get a better phone for $99" ... I said nicely that I would like to keep my unlimited data plan. Then he asked me, how much data do I use on a monthly basis ... I replied, usually 30-40GB+ depending. He said "depending?!! that much data should not be allowed, how can one person abuse Verizon..." I just interrupted him loudly saying ...I have UNLIMITED, UNLIMITED means there is no LIMIT! and hung up.
Since then, I blow my data out the water. Hit over 100GB last month myself and plan to do it continually
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I just think it's funny that people try to say the unlimited plans were taken away "because of people like you". The reality is that Verizon got rid of unlimited plans because they want to make more money. It has very little to do with the few people here and there who "abuse" their unlimited data.
I personally have unlimited and use as little as 2GB or as much as 10GB on any given month...
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I just think it's funny that people try to say the unlimited plans were taken away "because of people like you". The reality is that Verizon got rid of unlimited plans because they want to make more money. It has very little to do with the few people here and there who "abuse" their unlimited data.
I personally have unlimited and use as little as 2GB or as much as 10GB on any given month...
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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I agree, Work got me on trips all the time. When at hotels, WiFi costs extra. My phone is the alternative... That uses majority me data there.
I went the route of adding an extra line to get my DNA, came out cheaper that retail!
$199 - for phone with contract
$240 - $10/month for the extra line (2yrs)
$30 - they activate data on the line, switch your two phones then cut the data off the secondary line
I got my DNA for a little over $480 with a pack of 5 free screen protectors lol
My experience with Verizon's customer service has been horrible. If Sprint had the coverage of Verizon, I would still be with them. They finally made things right with me when I was able to do an early upgrade to get my Droid DNA. I was ready to jump back to Sprint lol
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Out of curiosity how much data was it? If you'd happen to know ?
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Well this month it was roughly 132gb as I recall, I've gotten as high as 200gb before. Bottom line is I pay for unlimited and have had this plan going on six years so lets see 12x6=72x30=2160. That's 2,160 reasons why I don't need to explain myself about how or why I use my phone
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I hope you all know eventually they are going to remove the unlimited data plan from everyone. Even when I had unlimited my 3g speeds were so slow on my old phone I never used it, I never even hit 1gb and I still haven't. The most I have ever used was 500mb. But I guess you guys can do as you please since you have unlimited. They can't stop you until they take it away...
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Netflix, Downloading ROMs, DropBox (Auto-Upload:I take a lot of pictures and videos) YouTube, Google Music (have no problem streaming 2GB a day worth of music)
So I'm not really "abusing" I'm just taking advantage of my unlimited data, especially since the DNA only has a set amount of storage.
Now me downloading the Windows 7/SP1 ISO files from Microsoft every day would be "abusing" yet still legit
and it is all about Verizon wanting more money... They charging you for data usage and selling you phones without sdcards, forcing you to use their data to use your cloud storage
I think Verizon is "abusing" us!
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Sad thing is I watched a sales rep convice a friend to switch and she got an iPad thinking there's no way I can use all that data they are offering.....sadly she called me the next day saying Verizon ****ed me now......now she's right around same price monthly and is limited
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^ interesting. I'm new to Verizon and the phone so I have a limited plan but a co worker of mine long time Verizon person has the unlimited plan he says they tried with him also to change the plan he refused. That's some pretty high usuage you use hehe. I can def see how it can be pretty high I don't use my carrier internet to much but just from streaming music and uploading pictures alone gets me a lot of usage.
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Out of curiosity, what are you doing to use that much data? The highest I've gone was like 10 gigs. I don't think I could go any higher if I tried.
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Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
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Battery pull and network refresh(really? I didn't know WiFi was part of the Verizon network but OK)
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I was wondering the same thing. I'm about to get my Droid RAZR replaced to a DNA through warranty and the rep told me I had to pay for the battery and battery cover... I was under the impression that the battery was non-removable. I even have another thread asking this very question and the answer I got was that it was not removable.
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I was wondering the same thing. I'm about to get my Droid RAZR replaced to a DNA through warranty and the rep told me I had to pay for the battery and battery cover... I was under the impression that the battery was non-removable. I even have another thread asking this very question and the answer I got was that it was not removable.
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The battery on the DNA and back cover are NOT removable.
mkzbdroid said:
Well this month it was roughly 132gb as I recall, I've gotten as high as 200gb before. Bottom line is I pay for unlimited and have had this plan going on six years so lets see 12x6=72x30=2160. That's 2,160 reasons why I don't need to explain myself about how or why I use my phone.
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Would you be kind enough to explain to someone (a noob) who isn't knowledgeable enough as to understand how a user could use 200 gb a month?
Could someone use 2000gb......8000gb....or a lot more then that a month?
Please tell me how that would be possible even given exaggerated use. I am new to this, and really don't know.
Thanks,
Dan
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Would you be kind enough to explain to someone (a noob) who isn't knowledgeable enough as to understand how a user could use 200 gb a month?
Could someone use 2000gb......8000gb....or a lot more then that a month?
Please tell me how that would be possible even given exaggerated use. I am new to this, and really don't know.
Thanks,
Dan
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It's could be possible...
1. Get root
2. Install WiFi tether
3. Enjoy the 4g speeds from laptop
4. ....torrent 24/7 to get your exaggerated use
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It's could be possible...
1. Get root
2. Install WiFi tether
3. Enjoy the 4g speeds from laptop
4. ....torrent 24/7 to get your exaggerated use
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Thank You!
I now see it!
Dan