If I swipe then, in mid-swipe, I create a touch elsewhere on the screen, the first swipe becomes interrupted. This happens every time, all of the time.
See (not me): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rz3uWFuDkI
I downloaded "Multitouch Visualizer 2" from the market and it confirmed the issue visually/quickly/easily/unambiguously.
I would really appreciate knowing if there is a fix.
It makes multitouch apps (especially games) impossible. I think it may contribute to the gingerbread keyboard not being as accurate as it was on my Evo while typing really fast (maybe).
Running rooted stock.2.08.651.2
In case it matters: HW revision 002. Panel Type = Panel_ID_SHR_SHARP_NT
(You can check which panel you have by going into terminal emulator and typing in "dmesg". The scroll up 40 lines or so and find "panel type.")
It is subtle enough in most UIs that I thought it was just me adjusting to the new screen, so don't feel silly if you haven't noticed it--I sure didn't!
I searched several times and I did not find this posted yet.
This is the closest I could find in search, but it is NOT my issue, mine does just fine on the "fast swipe test." As long as there is only one touch going on, it appears to work 100%! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140997
Thanks!
Try this, and read the instructions when you run the apk.
http://db.tt/R1jVqmm
LIKES:
drinking water, smoking flower, and avoiding the giant.
Just tested with dotty, and I had that issue too.
Tested again a few minutes later and the issue was gone.
Weird.
Type *#*#3424#*#* in phone, then run a line drawing test. See if it happens there.
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It went away for a few hours then came back. I have absolutely no idea why. I had restarted it, but that is all.
When it worked, it really worked well. All 4 points tracked beautifully.
It is now having the issue again.
-The diag line test is single touch, not multi touch, so it does not help at all.
-I have no idea what that recalibrate program did, but it did not have any impact on the issue. Thanks though!
Any other ideas as to what this even could be? Anyone else having the problem?
I seem to have this issue too :/ think replacing the touchscreen will fix it?
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Restart, and it goes away (for a while, at least). That tells me that it is more likely to be a software glitch, not a hardware issue. To me, it appears as if some multi- touch reference is not being replaced properly.
Because we only multitouch occasionally, I would bet that this could happen for a lot of users a lot of the time and it would go undetected.
NICE! The Evo only had two points. looks like Evo 3D has four points you can touch it at! hellz yeah! but it is really hard to test more than 4 points on a screen. not like I have 30 fingers .lol
kneeldug said:
Restart, and it goes away (for a while, at least). That tells me that it is more likely to be a software glitch, not a hardware issue. To me, it appears as if some multi- touch reference is not being replaced properly.
Because we only multitouch occasionally, I would bet that this could happen for a lot of users a lot of the time and it would go undetected.
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It happens to me all day every day. It is the same on sense and CM and the other AOSP roms. It makes using the keyboard a chore because I usually type really fast.
Quite frustrating. But, I have confidence that if it is a software issue (hopefully), the wonderful devs here will fix it. All in due time.
I posted a YouTube video of this problem twice in this forum, and how to re-create it. I had it replaced because of the issue and the replacement had the same exact issue. I am pretty sure its a stock kernel problem, not hardware. With some of the cooked kernels, my E3d didn't have the multitouch problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rz3uWFuDkI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
It looks like this problem is more widespread than I originally thought.
thanks for the video. I have the hardware version 2 of the evo3d. don't have this issue as far as I can tell. the white one. love this thing. NEVER BUY THE FIRST VERSION EVER!
Hi all. Im going to buy this phone and noticed this thread. I am really warried about this issue because i had some touch issues with my HD2.
It looked like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTsvyRh3fqE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I simply couldnt write fast on the keyboard because some taps was jumping over the keyboard:/
Is the same issue on evo 3d??? How we can recognize version??
tested on GSM Leedroid with stock kernel...no problems here.
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I have the EXACT same issues as OP. Multitouch is crazy and so is typing using the GB keyboard. No fixes so far. HW 0002.
OP ??? How to check hw version??
Thanks for all the feedback, y'all.
Hardware revision is unlikely to be the culprit. On 002 here. Check it in settings-about phone-hardware info.
Mine seems to be fine 90% of the time now. Just when I think it mysteriously fixed itself, I check and it is back (this is based on checking at random times during the day.)
I really have no idea what could cause this. Movement appears to be unrelated, as is load, time used, battery charge, or specific activity. All I know is that restarting makes it better...sometimes for a minute, sometimes for hours.
Consider making a shortcut to a multitouch tester and generating some more anecdotal data. I was pleasantly surprised that it was so infrequent.
I have the same issue, across several roms. Progressively got worse over the course of a week, to the point of getting phantom taps whenever I touched a section of the phone towards the top. Recently took it to Sprint to replace the screen, restoring it completely to stock before, even turned S-ON. They replaced it and the problem went away for a few days. Now it is doing this again. Something is definitely going on.
Why dosent anyone believe me when I say its the kernel? Flash a cooked one and it will stop.
not everyone in here has time to flash every "kernel" ever to be created by some weird guy or 12 year old. lol some of us work 80 hours a week. :-D My tummy hurts. which one of your gf's or ex's or wives wanta kiss my tummy. I'll kiss a few inches down on her to make us even. LOL! *runs away before you all kick me*
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Why dosent anyone believe me when I say its the kernel? Flash a cooked one and it will stop.
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I'm pretty darn happy with the stock kernel. I value simplicity and stability above everything else. This phone is plenty fast for how I use it.
Could you let us know what kernel has had modifications that are relevant to multitouch? My ideal kernal is stock (August update) with just this modification.
Also, keep in mind that it might take a while to evaluate whether it works. Mine was fine all yesterday but now is having the skittish multitouch issue.
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I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
i share your dislike for the sense ui, but i think it might be worth waiting a few days for the 2.1 rom to be released.
No dates yet? I didnt even know there was going to be a 2.1 update. Older phones are usually forgotten and sidelined by HTC and the likes
I have experienced this and I think it's android system closing the app because of low memory... I could be wrong. I haven't looked into it but thats my guess.
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I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
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I think maybe you are closing the app wrong try pressing the back button instead this closes the app and you end back on the screen you launched the app from
mifran
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
I just tried your way on mine running modaco 3.1 which app is causing the problem for you any app i have running when touch home button it closes and goes back to home page no blank screen or reboot needed
mifran
alitech said:
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
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Are you using a task killer to automatically kill tasks? If so, is Sense in the ignore list?
Regards,
Dave
alitech said:
I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
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are you still using stock rom??? try using a custom one. a modaco one for example. also, why would you consider droid or wait for the x10 when the nexus is out
Have experienced the same issue using modaco roms.
In my case its when I close the MAIL, EXPLORER, or sometimes SETTINGS app from Advanced task manager.
For some reason those appas seem to be locked into the Sense UI somehow in these roms.
Cant be bothered with the effort of tracking, or fixing it, since I am waiting for the new roms, which hopefully will be better! ;-)
Thanks for your suggestions for moving on to MCR. I am a bit of a wuss when it comes to custom roms. I have never tried them as I am a bit of a noob. I can probably follow instructions, but they need to be written for a 5 year old.
I have heard great things about the MCR and really do want to give it a shot. I dont think it fixes the prevailing lag issue.
Off topic, but I was also reading up on overclocking but apparently no one has been able to achieve the full 528 Mhz on the Hero yet. Any further development I might have missed?
@foxmeister
I am using a task killer and can confirm that the sense UI is ignored. Task Killer is only ever used when I need to shut things down. Its not on autopilot.
@deeren
Nexus is out true, but its bog standard google. No sexy UI like the Sense. Not the best of reviews either. People have been harsh on google it seems. The papers, forums and blogs are rife with the worst google bashing in ages over the nexus. It looks ugly too.
Have you seen the X10 yet? Its gorgeous. The UI seems to be amazing. Same 1Ghz snapdragon, 8MP camera and what not. Beats the nexus hands down.
Full specs: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiax10#view=specifications
The droid is cool too, although I fear it has the same lag issues as the Hero. I hate lag. My Mrs has the Iphone 3GS and I have not seen any Android phone compare to the speed of the Iphone. Pretty sad.
As for Modaco Rom. Does anyone know where there is a written guide for 5 year olds?
The phone is not rooted or anything, just has the updated Rom from last Sep.
Install Kagudroid. Problem solved.
I had this problem as well! Htc Sense would keep crashing and it kept showing up with force close, each time I would have to turn off the phone and turn it back on to fix it.
Then I saw a thread on here (sorry, couldn't find it again), but if you are using ANY type of task manager, make sure you add "HTC Checkin Service" to exempt, so NEVER end that process.
Once I did that, my phone has NEVER crashed again! Works great!!
The weird thing is, htc sense doesn't crash right away after ending that process, it only crashes later on!
The response on the touch screen for my atrix is all screwed up, I was wondering if anyone else had these issues.
I first got the phone in april and it worked flawlessly, for the last week the touch screen response has been really weird. sometimes it doesn't recognize input at all, other times it thinks i'm touching somewhere else, it often randomly selects a point on the screen completely on its own.
i'm unlocked, have a custom recovery. i started getting the issues on alien3, i flashed a new custom recovery and alien4 and i still have the problems.
i'm worried its hardware at this point, and i don't know what options i have for warranty since i got it on ebay. am i screwed?
First try again flashing everything from the start.
1. Flash the newest recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
2. Flash this radio for GingerBread ROMS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
3. FULL WIPE - Dalvik, Cache and data. (Also internal&external SD if you want to)
4. Flash any FULL WIPE ROM you want, like Alien #4.
5. If still didn't resolve the problem and you want to try more stuff, try flashing other kernel ?
Like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
You can try also flashing full SBF, read more about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
Try Touchscreen Booster from the Market.
Went through the same pain and read everything on XDA until I found a thread about the app.
Was driving me nuts but have had a stable screen for 3 weeks now.
I am using Super Optimized setting.
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If you problem doesn't get solved by clean flashing a new ROM, then it's a hardware issues -> as in "you need to replace digitizer".
Andy_Thatcher said:
Try Touchscreen Booster from the Market.
Went through the same pain and read everything on XDA until I found a thread about the app.
Was driving me nuts but have had a stable screen for 3 weeks now.
I am using Super Optimized setting.
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+1 this works.
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Im having the same issues and went about flashing the whole phone to no avail. I will for sure try touchscreen booster and post my results. If that doesnt help, is it the digitizer that needs replacing or the lcd? Digitizers are a lot cheaper on eBay lol
The only app I found says its for the galaxy. Installed it anyways, selected "super optimized settings" and so far so good. Thanks so much Andy_Thatcher!!
Andy_Thatcher said:
Try Touchscreen Booster from the Market.
Went through the same pain and read everything on XDA until I found a thread about the app.
Was driving me nuts but have had a stable screen for 3 weeks now.
I am using Super Optimized setting.
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this actually seems to be helping a lot. thank you. i will try a new kernel in the future but this is working great right now.
Apologies, did mean the Galaxy app.
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I have these issues to. They appeared randomly and there are random periods where it goes away, then comes back, sometimes worse than others. The SGS Touchscreen Booster app definitely helps, but it doesn't make it go away for me.
The only thing I haven't tried listed in this thread yet is flashing a new Kernel.
I've considered buying a new digitizer and replacing it myself, but the fact that the occurs so randomly and can even sometimes stop after rotating the screen, I'm very hesitant to do so.
i have tried this, but the problem still persist. I tried Optimized & Super Optimized settings, but its still the same
Even though the affects sound the same the cause maybe different. I know that sounds unlikely but I know that the Screen Booster worked for me.
There are a couple of other paths you may want to look at.
I was always convinced that the issue was not hardware based otherwise no matter what I did to the software it wouldn't have changed the fault but software changes did.
In my case before I implemented the app I would get a few hours respite by installing another base.
I have never used AT&T's OTA for Gingerbread so have been able to to SBF to what ever build I liked. For a while going to the initial Froyo build worked but as said only for a day at most. I had reached the point where I didn't care if it was Froyo or Gingerbread I just wanted a working phone.
No doubt I will get some flack for that comment however my phone has never hard bricked and I have been up and down the builds like a man possessed.
This is where I put the statutory do this at your own risk. It worked for me but I do not know the history of your device.
Then I came across this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649 thread.
It worked ! Well for a couple of days.
At that point I started get get some respite to SBF'ing to Pudding 2.3.4 Pre-Root.
My trouble with all of this is that I do not understand the issue. I suspect it was a software glitch I created due to messing with builds. Screen Booster worked for me and if I were you I would spend a little more time before going down the other paths.
Again how I got it to work was as follows.
Install.
Set to Super Optimized, initially there was little change in the behaviour of the phone and I thought it was a bust.
Rebooted
Set to Super Optimized again and it started working.
If anyone should know why this screen behaviour happens please let me know. I am close to getting another Atrix so I can take Screen Booster off this one to try and figure it out.
Hey All!
My amaze is awesome except that I can't play games well on it! When trying to play games like Gta 3 or Minecraft that have virtual buttons my touch screen does funky stuff. When holding down a button to move forward my character will start to move and then stop like the touch screen has stopped registering my finger that is still holding down the button.
My question to you all is do you have issues where your screen is flakey or do I maybe just have a bad unit? I have even noticed in web browsing that the page stutters sometimes even when I'm scrolling slowly on a fully loaded page.
Same here on gta and other games... You got a screen protector?
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Nope, I don't. I'm thinking its the pin in the back like a couple other people have said. I might just take it back and get a new one though. Lol. Its bad though... I can't even play any games on it that have virtual buttons! That and it won't detect more than 3 fingers on the multitouch test app I got.
Is this actually a problem on the Amaze or just a faulty device of op?
I believe it's a faulty device. Mine works with 4 touch points without a problem. Including other 2 device from my family member
Which Rom are you on? If its Fourth Sense then that ROM has a touch problems. Happened to me , I changed the Rom back again and that did the job for me.
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papcoz said:
I believe it's a faulty device. Mine works with 4 touch points without a problem. Including other 2 device from my family member
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I don't believe its a faulty device, it might be the actual rom, or some apps...when I restart my phone I run the mutitouch app and all 4 points register perfectly...after about a minute or so, the 4th point starts messing up...
sometimes, I can only get 1 touchpoint at a time to register properly....I'm on stock rooted rom.
I'm going to nandroid my phone and put stock nonrooted and stock rooted on my phone, to find out if it fixes the problem and if the roms make a difference. If not, then I would blame some of the apps. I've heard some roms such as beast rom work very well with touchpoints, so i'm guessing it has something to do with the stock rom itself.
right now I'm on stock kernel, but I was on faux, I'm going to also try to see if kernels make a difference:
This won't be over night, I will need time to do all this, I don't have time to mess with my phone when i need it.
update:
other people with roms and problems: it seems to be the rooted stock does not work well with touchpoints,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1430210&highlight=gta
so far beastmod and android revolution hd are roms that have been reporting to work well with touchpoints if you want root.
Or.... Buy a phone for gaming....lol
Wasnt the main selling point of this phone the camera?
There is no doubt my old g2x blows away the amaze for games and video....
But I knew that buying this phone.
Even the best game eVAHr , atomic bomber, doesn't respond well on this phone. I mention this because AB is a pretty basic game.
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So I was very disappointed at first.
The browser was slow and disappeared often. The phone got hot. The battery was lasting like four hours. I was getting roaming warnings. Capacitive buttons wouldn't light up unless it was pitch black. Felt less than snappy. Launcher would take time to load up.
Basically all the problems most people were having except the wiffi bouncing.
The screen wasn't set quite right.
I took it back and now I have no problems except one. Now it does WiFi bounce.
Gonna take this one back too.
If your phone seems like its having problems most likely it is. Take it back.
FYI my experience.
I'll report back once I have chance to get to the sprint store again.
Cool phone but yes the two I have had are buggy.
I wish was text wrapping would get fixed too. Very annoying.
I know many are tired of problem threads but there are problems.
Just.out of.curiosty where did you get your phones at?
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try setting wifi to 2.4 ghz, that made mine more stable. I don't thinka new phone is going to solve that problem, so I would keep the one you got and wait for HTC to fix
saying you know there are too many problem threads and making another one yourself does not make it ok.
Make it ok? Just letting people know man. Not trying be a downer. I want the thing to work is all. Chill.
I got both phones at a sprint corporate store. The guy told me he has seen all the same issues.
Now this phone has great battery life. Awesome really.
But now I'm missing calls, going to maps from the browser completely blacks out the screen. Goes to nothing.
Face it. The phone is buggy.
I think HTC probably held the phone up in customs after realizing they pushed to quick. Who knows.
Buggy. Face it.
I am going to try a third one.
Oh and changing the WiFi to any setting didn't work.
Best of luck.
The wifi issue seems to be software related...the One X (our Evo's sister phone) got an OTA update this evening to address several wifi issues so I'm guessing that ours will be getting one soon too.
Dan_ said:
saying you know there are too many problem threads and making another one yourself does not make it ok.
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why is the problem with the person making a thread, instead of the company who put out a problematic device.
Guys not trying to be a Debbie downer. I and many people have to live with a very promising device for a while. The developers quite frankly and hopefully will go nuts with the thing and make me and many kinda geeky. That's the fun.
But I need a solid device. I bought it to help me work better and embrace the technology that makes that happen.
I said on a different post the EVO 4g with mikg 3.11 for me was wonderful. That phone and Rom did my thing.
This is an EVO and branded as one. Don't settle and if you go for a brand like ne expect nothing less.
I had the first moto droid and that phone gave me amazing info without even touching it. I'm a fan. EVO helped me with work and music. Well slacker always made me nuts but that's slacker.
I don't mind a few minor bugs but hold the EVO to high standards.
I that's all we want.
Like I said developers will make it sing. I'm sure of it.
D
I bought a glitchy phone rooted with sense 4+ that was really glitchy. It was like a ghost in the machine. The top 2mm of the screen is almost always non responsive, just under the HTC logo. I ported a mean bean Rom and the glitching lightened up but the top of the screen was still non responsive most of the time. Then I ported a sense 5 Rom, same issues. Finally took the leap with VipeRUU. It restored my phone to the 4.1 sense 4+ Rom I bought it with, just as glitchy as when I bought it. Shouldnt VipeRUU return the phone to before the glitchy Rom was installed, to ICS 4.0 and sense 4? What am I doing wrong?
Not if it's a hardware issue. Sounds like the issue my wife had with the touch screen.
But, that's just my two cents.
Selective Screen unresponsiveness usually isn't a Rom issue (never is as far as I know but I'll say usually because I'm no tech). Sounds to me like you bought a broken phone. The glitchiness could be tied into the screen problem.
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markb629 said:
Selective Screen unresponsiveness usually isn't a Rom issue (never is as far as I know but I'll say usually because I'm no tech). Sounds to me like you bought a broken phone. The glitchiness could be tied into the screen problem.
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If the digitizer is bad or flaking out then my phone is more than I want to repair. I hope it is a software issue since new RIMs seem to make it better. I am hoping to find a ROM that would somehow repair the glitches if they are software based.
If you're having an issue with your screen and the issue persists across numerous ROM's and even a RUU, then your issue is hardware-related. Sounds like your digitizer has issues and needs to be replaced. This issue has been mentioned before on here and the digitizer almost always seems to be the culprit.
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FinZ28 said:
If you're having an issue with your screen and the issue persists across numerous ROM's and even a RUU, then your issue is hardware-related. Sounds like your digitizer has issues and needs to be replaced. This issue has been mentioned before on here and the digitizer almost always seems to be the culprit.
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The thing about the glitches is that they involve a lot more than an unresponsive screen. It constantly starts playing the HTC link video. The haptic feedback buzzes randomly during a glitch. If I'm on a web page, links get pressed sometimes and it zooms in and out without me doing anything. It got better, not perfect, but less glitchy when I flashed a new Rom.
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The thing about the glitches is that they involve a lot more than an unresponsive screen. It constantly starts playing the HTC link video. The haptic feedback buzzes randomly during a glitch. If I'm on a web page, links get pressed sometimes and it zooms in and out without me doing anything. It got better, not perfect, but less glitchy when I flashed a new Rom.
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Still sounds like an issue with your screen to me, anyhow.
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