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I currently have the incredible 2 and am thinking of coming to the dx2. With a little research doesn't look like there's much dev support for here or is that because its so new? Just trying to see if its a good idea and looking for a couple opinions. Thanks!
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We're at the beginning of the cycle with this phone so I think that is the reason you don't see much activity yet. An SBF was just procured and some developments are starting to trickle out. I just moved from the original DROID and so far I'm very pleased with this phone. I've rooted with gingerbreak and am running the supercharger script.
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Lack of dev support was due to a locked bootloader...we still have a locked bootloader but we do have a way into a custom recovery. It is just a matter of revs hopping on and making roms.
99% of the devs looking into this are prob passing it up until we get gingerbread so they don't have to make their roms twice.
Thanks, just read another thread and realized the questions were asked. Had same issue with dinc2 bootloader being locked but finally was cracked and am rooted now. Phone is great I like it but because of signal issues in my area Verizon is sending me a Droid x2 to try out. Dev support for dinc2 isn't that great either but got the main roms like CM7 and miui with couple others brewing. Just trying to decide if this would be a good switch. Thanks
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Did froyo for the Droid X2 have an unlocked bootloader?
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No. Droid X2 did not have an unlocked bootloader at any point.
Still waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked. It's only a matter of time.
Im sure its been answered before...but what is the real advantage to an unlocked bootloader?
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With root we can only do higher level stuff, bootloader access has the arability to change core items within android. For example changing wifi to infrastructure mode instead of ADHOC, changing clock speeds, completely customized roms with kernel access, along with loads of other things.
Dang. I was thinking that if it did, we would have a much easier time just going back to froyo and making awesome ROMs with custom kernals and stuff. I came from the Fascinate, and we had all of that good stuff. I just miss it, that's all. Lol.
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Yeah, but soon, soon we will have a very nice bootstrap utility along with clockworkmod which will hopefully give us a little more developer attention. Until then just enjoy our nice stable android experience we have=).
Very true. We do have some great developers right now even without custom kernels and whatnot. Its all very stable and easy to work with. I may even get into developing soon. It seems pretty... kinda... not really easy. But i would love to learn if nitro or someone wants to give me some pointers.
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Learn java and let me tell you its not easy Haha, i'm currently plugging away at c++ and c# and its not easy
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I bought an X2 a few weeks ago because it was available to me for $50 (yeah, I'm. Cheap). I really love it (except for the physical buttons (wtf?)) and I really wanted something larger than my Incredible. However after reading threads for a few weeks it just really seems the development for the X2 is being past over for older equipment (i.e. my Viewsonic G Tab?) & newer phones. Did I pick the wrong phone??
I'm not crazy techie, so I don't know the complexity, but the Droid, the Droid X & the Droid 2 have been cracked. Did Motorola really go to so much trouble making the X2 so different that it is much more difficult to crack or are the efforts to crack this phone being passed over for some reason? Do I just need to avoid Motorola phones in the future?
Like I said I'm not a very technical, but have contributed (donation-wise) to multiple ROMs I used on my Incredible & gTab & I just thought I would see similar flexibility on the X2 by now, so I just want to know if I need move on from the X2 or not?
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Yeah, I don't really run that much and I regularly see only about 3-9MB avail. ;(
I'm starting to think this is a middle of the road phone that I should have just past by & it seems the developers think so as well. Guess I should have researched more, not been so cheap & been less impatient.
Well I'm cheap, so I'll need to wait for better pricing on the latest phones, but if Motorola is going to be such a problem, then I guess I need to go with Samsung or HTC.
mistawolfe said:
The 512mb of RAM is what made me leave this phone. It requires too many hacks/scripts to even run properly.
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Agreed, they do however, run very well on any of the current available roms imo. The devs have done an excellent job of working with what we have.
Flashaholik
The above is true. Nitro is the best thing that happened to this phone. Try eclipse out and see how you like it then.
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If you don't have 4g in your area, x2 is your best bet. Im running eclipse and am more than happy to keep x2 until mid 2013 when 4g arrives in my area. If you have 4g, get something else.
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The only thing that sux about this phone is not having an unlocked bootloader but with the roms we have available it runs super smooth and it's reliable and yes nitro is the best thing to happen to this phone...don't get discouraged paying 50 bucks for this dualcore phone is a steal bro...
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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This phone does suck for lack of actual ROMs not based on stock. However, the RAM is not as big an issue compared to other Motorola phones with 1GB (i.e. Atrix, Atrix2, Photon, Bionic, Droid RAZR) because, if I recall, their webtop service digs into that RAM anyway. It is a joke though that some of our RAM is taken up by the Tegra 2.
However, I am impressed with Tegra's hardware acceleration for web and Flash. It does seem to load web pages quickly, but I don't have other dual-core phones to compare to.
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There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
mistawolfe said:
You guys don't know what you're talking about. Lol.
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Please enlighten us noobs on this subject professor wolf lol
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xaalfx said:
There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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the lack of non-stock ROMs is partially because of the bootloader. The other reason is because of lack of interest.
Droid X, 2, 2 Global all still have locked bootloaders (I believe), yet a lot of custom ROMs including CyanogenMod and MIUI. Not sure if all the dual-core Motorolas are unlocked, but I know some are.
xaalfx said:
There's no actual roms bcuz of a locked bootloader but every Motorola phone now has a locked bootloader doesn't it? I know the bionic and Razr do...
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No actual ROMs huh? So a ROM isn't a ROM because it doesn't have a custom kernel? What do you call Eclipse? What do you call Liberty?
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Bunch of really cool dudes and a lot of sweet bros coming into the X2 forums now. Lucky us.
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You talking about me? Or the newbs?
I was able to trade my dx2 for an incredible 2 and the difference is astounding. The dx2 has good hardware and amazing build quality but a lot of the major selling points of the phone don't mean anything. Qhd is a gimmick, as is dual-core IMO. Nothing is built to take advantage of it, including Android.
The best thing about the dx2 was the build quality and feel which is second to none. Everything about the hardware is more refined than my INC2. Eclipse is a great ROM too and makes this device worthwhile.
All in all, I think this phone has a chance at being everything that the x was but it is going to require more people to stand up.
Bottom line: if you want a phone for a specific ROM/kernel, do your research before you spend your cash. Your response to your device will be based on your expectations.
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The other issue, with the rate the new "bigger badder" phones are popping up, Dev's can't keep up, nor afford to buy every phone on the block. This Android runs 2.2.2, the next runs 2.3.5, the next runs 4.0.1, you get the point. These 1 man teams like Nitro are insane working on 3/4 phones at a time, and building their rom at a pace that keeps up with Android builds and hardware differences. Not to mention the continued support despite the pace of new phones being released. If you want everything under the sun, buy a phone everyone is interested in. Look how ridiculous the Galaxy Nexus forum is already and the phone was just ANNOUNCED weeks ago, not even released yet. We have what we have over here, and complaining about it doesn't help anything. Short of unlocking the BL ourselves and enticing devs by buying them the phone, we probably are not going to get more than the handful of ROMs and support we currently have.
The newly released Eclipse 1.2 and Liberty 3 RC1 are fantastic. This is how the X2 shouldve have been out of the box. Liberty final is coming soon and that'll be it till we get ICS. My phone is now almost as smooth as an iphone.
Also, use the following apps:
Go Launcher
Opera
Quickpic
ES File Explorer
ROM Toolbox
Handcent
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
aldar5 said:
I'm installing Eclipse 1.2 now. It looks great.
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That's because it IS great and every update gets even better.
don't forget to customize your phone to make it run how you want. Don't feel limited in what this phone can do/handle.
A custom launcher can make a lot of difference in how you phone feels.
I LOVE go launcher ex. Lots of themes and home screen options. Different screen transition animation(even in app drawer..sphere animation is sick)
Right now im still using the launcher that came wit 1.2eclipse..it works smooth and looks good.
Just throwing in my 2cents but the previously mentions about just buying on cool specs is always going to backfire. And the other point about the devs not being able to keep up with the phones is the second major issue.
I got "upgraded" to the DX2 from my DX by insurance and I have run almost every rom I could. After the time I spent with my DX it was as fast as this phone is and there was way more choice of hacks and roms. I have to give serious props to Nitro, the Liberty crew and Navendrob (hope I spelled the name right) because they have done some great work. But unfortunately by the time all their hard work is finally paying off the majority of us will be on the next phone.
To bad more people can't afford to donate to devs so they can have new toys to hack on....
I saw a post for the Droid Bionic and Droid 3, recently. It is the "[Alpha4] Ics4Bionic Preview" thread on the droidforums.net forums. I can not link it here since I am new and have less than 8 posts (search it on Google).
In short, they both got an Alpha version of an ICS ROM. As far as I know, neither got the ICS OTA update yet. And, as far as I can tell, both still have a locked bootloader. Still, they seem to be running an ICS ROM with Android 4.0.1. How is this possible? Without a bootloader, we don't have the ability to load a custom kernel, right? But then, how did these devs load Android 4.0.1 (aka ICS) on the Bionic and Droid 3?
Also, I was wondering, if Moto and Verizon don't plan to show this phone some love and release an ICS OTA update, can we still get it somehow in the form of a port by some dev?
i honestly don't get all the hype of Ice cream sandwich
does it improve the camera quality? video camera quality?
battery life? flash performance?
bring GPU acceleration to UI?
i haven't heard any of those but somehow people gets excited on seeing their number going from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
atleast thats how i see it. peace
From the buzz around the Net there are a few devs working on ICS ROMs for the X2. I'm not entirely sure about a leak or port of the fw, but I know from nitroglycerin33's twitter he has been working on a re-vamp of the Eclipse ROM with tons of ICS touches and tweaks. So look out for that.
raclimja said:
i honestly don't get all the hype of Ice cream sandwich
does it improve the camera quality? video camera quality?
battery life? flash performance?
bring GPU acceleration to UI?
i haven't heard any of those but somehow people gets excited on seeing their number going from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5
atleast thats how i see it. peace
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The hype is gpu acceleration and the new user friendly ui. ics on the droid 3, even though nothing works, is the smoothest rom out for it
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joerkc said:
The hype is gpu acceleration and the new user friendly ui. ics on the droid 3, even though nothing works, is the smoothest rom out for it
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I haven't. heard any tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to get ics
Akaik, droid 3 is using ti omap4 which has different gpu than x2
If thats the case, then it is possible that x2 wont have gpu acceleration seeing no tegra 2 device is confirmed to have.
Even atrix 4g which is heavily marketed and have twice the ram of x2 isnt confirm either
Which would make ics kinda pointless
I am more interested on the blue hue camera fix and camcorder autofocus for x2 more than anything else
raclimja said:
I haven't. heard any tegra 2 phone that is confirmed to get ics
Akaik, droid 3 is using ti omap4 which has different gpu than x2
If thats the case, then it is possible that x2 wont have gpu acceleration seeing no tegra 2 device is confirmed to have.
Even atrix 4g which is heavily marketed and have twice the ram of x2 isnt confirm either
Which would make ics kinda pointless
I am more interested on the blue hue camera fix and camcorder autofocus for x2 more than anything else
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The xoom1 is getting it.
100% confirmed by moto.
Don't wanna post my citation but here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xoom+original+ics+confirmed+by+motorolla+
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It is possible to get an ics rom but we have to be patient. A few great devs have been working hard on getting a working 2nd init and have been very successful. Its really only a matter of time. Although we might see an ics rom, it wont have all the features of ics.
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CadenH said:
It is possible to get an ics rom but we have to be patient. A few great devs have been working hard on getting a working 2nd init and have been very successful. Its really only a matter of time. Although we might see an ics rom, it wont have all the features of ics.
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Exactly, stuff that really doesn't matter though, like the on-screen buttons, I think would have no place on a physical keyed phone like the x2. Motorola, if they are planning anything at all, should have it announced at least by January.
I don't think we will get an official update to ics. Just a ported rom. Essentially it would just be the updated ui and maybe a few performance tweeks. If you want to get the full experience of what 4.0 has to offer, you will have to get a phone built for it.
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According to engadget, Google has just released chrome for select ics devices. I expect, nay DEMAND a port to my DX2 in 3..2..1..
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Looks pretty slick.... ics only.... I assume they will make a version for gb phones.
Sucks it's ICS only. Any ideas on why it took them so long to get the ball going for this on Android? I assume ICS got the first release because of hardware acceleration, but you'd think they'd have a previously working version looooong ago.
Does anyone have the APK? We can try and install it anyways...
Edit:Here's a link
http://db.tt/mXhhmr4R
Does it work for anyone else?
Jubomime said:
According to engadget, Google has just released chrome for select ics devices. I expect, nay DEMAND a port to my DX2 in 3..2..1..
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All the more reason for us X2 users to ***** at Moto/VRZ to update our phones!!! Google needs to take a stand with the manufacturers and carriers over this.
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Does anyone have the APK? We can try and install it anyways...
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http://db.tt/mXhhmr4R
Does it work for anyone else?
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Just to be clear, did it or did it not work for you? I had no success on my X2 or my honeycomb tablet.
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Just to be clear, did it or did it not work for you? I had no success on my X2 or my honeycomb tablet.
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It does not and will not work without some serious hacking from what I've been told.
It does not work.
Heh, it started for me on my cm9 galaxy tab but then forced closed when i tried to search.
Since engadget said SELECT ics devices it wouldn't surprise me if it only works on.. Galaxy nexus for now..
*edit* my mistake, they do NOT specify select ics devices just 4.0 in general.
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It does not and will not work without some serious hacking from what I've been told.
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That's because ICS was a major upgrade from Gingerbread, especially at the kernel level. It was more of a rewrite than an upgrade.
Hence, this is looking for ICS libraries. It's possibly also looking for an ICS kernel which we don't have AND won't have unless Verizon decides to release ICS for the X2.
We are at the mercy of Verizon on this one.
Remember, CM9 will still have the GB kernel, not an ICS one since we cannot replace the kernel due to the locked bootloader. Again, at the mercy of Verizon AND Motorola on the locked bootloader.
I've been waiting for Chrome on Android for the entire time I've had an Android (about a year and a half). I just came across an article about on another website, read the whole thing with excitement, and then shot a baby when I read it was only for ICS. WTF?! That's very disappointing to me. Any thoughts as to why they did that? Maybe because it's beta and wanted limited exposure at first?
If they just now started working on getting chrome out then it really doesn't make sense to release it on gingerbread and ics. I would expect that it would be released for their newer os rather than the one that is going to be phased out. Maybe once they get all the bugs worked out they will release a version usable on gingerbread, so phones that won't be updated, or even new phones that aren't as powerful as the phones sporting ics, will be able to use it.
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Works great on my stock xoom running ICS.
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I just found our also that this doesn't support flash and it never will. As far as browsers go many people are sticking to opera.
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I love, currently using it as my default browser. Switching between tabs is way too entertaining XP
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I've been able to use it on my ICS Xoom, and let me say, it is amazing. Comparable to the PC version in terms of performance. I think we should be able to use it with CM9, whenever that is released.
Adobe isn't supporting flash anymore for mobile devices so that makes sense
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swbf2lord said:
I've been able to use it on my ICS Xoom, and let me say, it is amazing. Comparable to the PC version in terms of performance. I think we should be able to use it with CM9, whenever that is released.
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Because we are stuck on the gingerbread kernel, CM9 may not work unless Motorola releases ICS for DX2. As stated earlier, apk needs libraries from the ICS kernel. The only other option is to hack the actual apk.