Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
GalNote said:
Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
lactardjosh said:
There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
GalNote said:
Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
GalNote said:
Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
note @ 1.83
... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire
I have a 16gb NT which I started out with CM7 running off the ext. sd card. Loved it so I decided to load it on the internal. Well after doing that, CM7 uses only the ext. sd card (8gb microsd) rather than the internal memory. I can still boot to CM7 without the ext. sd card, but I cannot install apps and what not.
I am familiar with android but I'm not expert. I feel like its so sort of partitioning issue, and I'm sure its been covered before but I just can't find the right answer.
Any help will be appreciated, thanks!
hashish16 said:
I have a 16gb NT which I started out with CM7 running off the ext. sd card. Loved it so I decided to load it on the internal. Well after doing that, CM7 uses only the ext. sd card (8gb microsd) rather than the internal memory. I can still boot to CM7 without the ext. sd card, but I cannot install apps and what not.
I am familiar with android but I'm not expert. I feel like its so sort of partitioning issue, and I'm sure its been covered before but I just can't find the right answer.
Any help will be appreciated, thanks!
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please google and go check out 'multi mound sd card. Veronica found this one. click on her thanks button...
Is a different issue here. He is saying that internal partition that host installed applications and games is not get mounted.
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Ok so heres the deal. My phone shows 2 internal memory sections. One of them is the actual internal memory, but the other (27gb) is ACTUALLY my external SD card. And I don't know what 'SD CARD" represents. Maybe the expanded internal memory? I don't know when this happened or how. I've known it was this way for a while but I didn't worry about it until I ran out of space and it started causing problems. Which it is now. The problem is, that no matter what settings I change in the phone, if I change apps/photos to save to the SD card, they don't really save to the SD card, they save to one of the ones listed as internal memory. So I basically bought a 32gb sd card for no reason because my phone is completely out of space. My apps can't even update. I wake up in the morning with a notification bar full of "insufficient storage, cannot download" messages.
Has anyone heard of this happening before or has it happened to you? Can someone PLEASE tell me how to fix it. Screenshots are attached.
Also, my phone is rooted and running Jokersax (now Th3Bill's) CM10 ROM, but it has been like this probably since Jokers CM9 ROM.
Thanks in advance for the help =]
Okay, I am and have ran almost all Th3Bill ROMS, and Am currently on Pac man. The images below are going to work no matter what ROM you have. First shows my actual internal memory the Rom is running in, SD Card, is the actual internal memory for storage.
The second picture shows another internal which would be my 16 gig card. Which comes as SDCard 1, my internal is known as SDCard 0. This is set because I chose this when installing the Rom, emmc(internal) as my primary.
This would be switched if I chose my SDCard as primary in installation.
With as many applications, games or such you have. You may want to wipe all and reinstall with your SDCard chosen as primary. This way you will have plenty of memory.
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secret.animal said:
Okay, I am and have ran almost all Th3Bill ROMS, and Am currently on Pac man. The images below are going to work no matter what ROM you have. First shows my actual internal memory the Rom is running in, SD Card, is the actual internal memory for storage.
The second picture shows another internal which would be my 16 gig card. Which comes as SDCard 1, my internal is known as SDCard 0. This is set because I chose this when installing the Rom, emmc(internal) as my primary.
This would be switched if I chose my SDCard as primary in installation.
With as many applications, games or such you have. You may want to wipe all and reinstall with your SDCard chosen as primary. This way you will have plenty of memory.
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There is no other way to set my SDcard as primary other than wiping everything?
Galaxy_S_ said:
There is no other way to set my SDcard as primary other than wiping everything?
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Edit your vold.fstab in root/system/etc.
Mine has this
dev_mountsdcard/storage/sdcard0 auto/devices/virtual/block/nandi
dev_mountextsd/storage/sdcard1 auto
Change the sdcard storage/sdcard0 to a /storage/sdcard1
And vice versa
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Before I rooted and installed the Eclipse ROM I would download my favorite podcast to internal memory and listen to it. Now when I attempt to download it tells me there is no SD card! Is there a setting to make it download to internal memory and not to an SD card?
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Anyone?
I know sometimes when running a custom rom the sdcard location çhanges. Like if youre running cmX its sdcard 0/1 or emmc/sdcard... check your download location. I had something similar happen but I had to upgrade my sdcard because I had an off brand 8gig class4 that would read only sometimes. Hope that helps a bit.
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eclipse has sd card flip flop. so your external is labeled as internal. and internal external.
My daughter's rooted and S off Droid Incredible 4G LTE is giving her an insufficient memory error when trying to download certain apps. She has a 32 gigabyte Micro SD card and is running Cyanogenmod 10.2.1. Anybody have any ideas on how to remedy this issue? I suspect we need to run certain apps from the SD card or move data over to it. I am just not sure how to do it.
This is a limitation due to the partitioning of the device, only 1GB can be used for apps and when apps are moved to SD they are moved to the internal "SD card" partition not the real SD card. There is a swap but I'm not sure if it works with CM 10.2.1 and nothing has been worked on it in about a year. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985658
therreid said:
My daughter's rooted and S off Droid Incredible 4G LTE is giving her an insufficient memory error when trying to download certain apps. She has a 32 gigabyte Micro SD card and is running Cyanogenmod 10.2.1. Anybody have any ideas on how to remedy this issue? I suspect we need to run certain apps from the SD card or move data over to it. I am just not sure how to do it.
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This is a limitation due to the partitioning of the device, only 1GB can be used for apps and when apps are moved to SD they are moved to the internal "SD card" partition not the real SD card. There is a swap but I'm not sure if it works with CM 10.2.1 and nothing has been worked on it in about a year. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1985658
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I may give it a try on my backup DING 4g. I do see that for the latest version of the script there is no reverse....so hopefully I wont brick it. I wonder what happens to existing apps when you run this?
There is a reversal posted on the op...
I installed it today on my existing phone (viper rom & infernal kernel) and so far all my apps are working. Only change I've had to so far is update my gallery links.