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Now that the bootloader has been bypassed. Is it possible to port wp7 os on our device?
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Justinhopaolo said:
Now that the bootloader has been bypassed. Is it possible to port wp7 os on our device?
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Nup, im wrong. It is possible if someone wants to waste their time doing it.
I'm not gonna use even if they do it.
And you should know, such a question does not belong in Xperia X10 Android Development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254680
your Q is need to be on the Q&A section..
btw.. its possible..
It's possible but it requires lots of time, energy and of course, dedication. You need to rewrite most of the libs and modules, drivers, etc.
u can have wp7 . but truth is no one will ever spend so much time to write the libs and modules since x10 is almost a dying phone ( actually i can say its already dead) and little dev support. there are only 5-6 devs here.
HTC desire HD doenst have wp7 port yet , and there are countless amount of devs there. so basically u will never have a wp7 port. so stop expecting.
one word answer. YES. NOT
post in the right thread and ull get proper answer
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there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
Yes or no
Theoretically, its possible.
Our spec are quite near to HD2
But, who wanna waste time and resources in porting WP7
ishunz said:
Yes or no
Theoretically, its possible.
Our spec are quite near to HD2
But, who wanna waste time and resources in porting WP7
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so is pretty much every other phone released at that time
The hd2 had all the drivers from wm6.5....
this is NEVER going to happen.
All you n00bs should go back to n00bland and stop wasting everyones time
scoobysnacks said:
there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
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Your wrong about the sense thing straight away. One of my mates is port sense right now as we speak and he has got it to boot on my x10 so the sense. Not saying its going to work but the fact he got it to boot is the main thing. All there is now is to get everything working again.
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sammyjc89 said:
Your wrong about the sense thing straight away. One of my mates is port sense right now as we speak and he has got it to boot on my x10 so the sense. Not saying its going to work but the fact he got it to boot is the main thing. All there is now is to get everything working again.
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yes it has been ported to other phones too, but never fully working. That is with hundreds of developers too, and they ended up giving up.
Go look at sgs forums, etc...
A bunch of non-devs talking about how we are going to get all these awesome roms suddenly ported
good luck guys!
scoobysnacks said:
there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
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That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this.
scoobysnacks said:
yes it has been ported to other phones too, but never fully working. That is with hundreds of developers too, and they ended up giving up.
Go look at sgs forums, etc...
A bunch of non-devs talking about how we are going to get all these awesome roms suddenly ported
good luck guys!
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Actually they are still working it right now as I have the nexus s and I use the nexus sense on my phone also the dens in the sgs forums having been working real hard on and I know that because I talk to the devs working on the port. We now have data, bt, WiFi, video is bot laggy and that's what they are fixing right now. Not far to go if you ask me. Also that looks to me that they haven't given up.
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sammyjc89 said:
Actually they are still working it right now as I have the nexus s and I use the nexus sense on my phone also the dens in the sgs forums having been working real hard on and I know that because I talk to the devs working on the port. We now have data, bt, WiFi, video is bot laggy and that's what they are fixing right now. Not far to go if you ask me. Also that looks to me that they haven't given up.
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link me to them
I will say though that sense is more feasible than wp7 that's for sure..
though it is still an insane amount of work.
sense has such a complicated framework it needs in order to function properly.
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
nanodroid said:
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
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so what you think starting threads like this in the development section is ok?
Oh Yeah you wanted ios lol ...
attack of the noobs!
p.s. the best wp7 launcher is called launcher7
nanodroid said:
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
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Big thanks for understanding my point for this thread
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scoobysnacks said:
so what you think starting threads like this in the development section is ok?
Oh Yeah you wanted ios lol ...
attack of the noobs!
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No.I think it would be in the wrong section.
And I didn't want ios, I asked if it could be done and as I said, just for asking.If you read the threads well instead of turning negative with your 'attack the noobs' thinking..
My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
My understanding is that if the developers had the source code necessary for hardware acceleration, we would eventually have a fully working ICS rom. I think Viewsonic doesn't care enough to have someone work with nvidia to get the source code.
Once google releases ICS source code, we should have a usable ICS rom, at least
Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
modfrenzy said:
My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
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Really? you think this is the proper place to post this? Can we place read the rules!
Cant wait to flash this!, ill post back in a few with how it runs.
ZebTheCalvinist said:
Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
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Camera and hardware acceleration are still not there yet.
Yes, please move this to the proper forum, I think its called "posts from people with rocks in their heads".
hahaha sorry, I could not resist.
I'd be careful not to get too excited...this is very dependent on the few developers we still have, wanting to stick around even longer to try to get this to work. They might decide to move onto a different tablet also...
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Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
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Yeah, this topic kinda made me a sad panda...
No ones perfect. But come on. Have a little respect by not posting useless threads in the dev forums.
Hello I'm a newb!
I'm sorry, but this is the unfortunate state I find myself in.
When I first found this site, what I was expecting to find was a ICS for my phone. I could not have guessed what I would learn here. I had no idea I had a counter in my phone to worry about when installing open sourced roms? Next after much more reading I am to learn the source code Google releases is not complete, and uses binary drivers? Now I am to learn about CIQ, and my phone is spying on me? Wow!
Before I say anything else I want to express my thanks to this community. This has been such a resource I had no idea that it would be when I started. Thank you!
Now on to my question that after learning about all of that I don't seem to have a clear answer to. What I wanted when I first considered getting an Android phone, was to build from source, and run my own rom. I still want this, even more so since I learned about CIQ.
1. Due to the counter on my phone
2. I am to understand multiple images that make the phone work (boot, firmware, system)
3. The binary drivers.
Is this at all a reasonable goal?
Are there more flash images that I haven't read about yet?
Would having a direct from Google rom even be desirable?
I own a stock SGH-I777, I have done nothing to it yet.
Lastly about this site:
Is there anything you think I should read about on the forums?
Any language I should know, as in what does hellraiser imply/mean?
Any Android experience you think might benefit a could be developer?
Counter can be reset and avoided all together.
Sorry I don't know much about AOSP building, but your better off starting with compiling CM and learn from there unless you are really experienced in coding.
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source. Ty for reminding me.
NEME5I5 said:
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source.
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AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
LiLChris06 said:
AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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No it was just some phones, I think the skyrocket had it at some point.
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Ok, so I rooted my first cell phone. It would seem heimdall latest has a bug that will brick your phone. (I'm on Mac OS Lion) I used the 1.3.1 instead, and it worked fine.
I saw many more sites, and this was quite easy. The way they showed it was very complex. Since I'm new at this should I wait to try out a ICS rom till after Samsung releases their source code, and the devs have had a chance to get it stable? How complete is the open source version of ICS? There was a note on the fsf.org page that linked me over here that some of the parts were still binary. Is it still true?
I think long term I want to get away from the official releases.
Well, you came this far, might as well flash an ICS rom now. If the leaks are any indication of status, the Samsung release will be pretty stable but the included kernel is problematic because it can cause hardbricking. Besides, you want to get away from stock, and all of the big roms released thus far are pretty darn stable; I don't know anything about binary parts or any of the coding, but plenty of people have no problem running CM or AOKP. Even the Samsung-based roms all look AOSP-like nowadays because they use Apex or Nova (not many devs like Touchwiz anymore). So take your pick, they're all good roms and most look like AOSP to some extent, with a few (mainly CM and AOKP) striving for pure AOSP.
Make sure to read and follow this guide carefully for flashing stuff, and have fun!
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Prother, by no mean to offense you, but seriously, if you don't know those fundamental technical terms, I strongly suggest you to hold off what you about to do and spend more time reading.
Let me go off and do a search the post for you, where you can get used to those terms.
Hang tight, prother.
Pirateghost said:
Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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So I will. To be honest I don't see the connection between the new jargon, and development I learn in school. There is definately much to learn here. I was expecting this to be like Zaurus development from back when I was active, it's very clear to me that this is a very different beast.
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
votinh said:
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Thank you friend. I may not have my own rom at the end of summer, but I should be on my way to understanding what would be needed for one.
Well the terms I wanted are not present on that list, most of that I was familiar with. To be honest, some of it I have not seen before as well. What is hellraiser, and some of the other xda developed jargon? I do have a tab open to that part of the forums, I just hadn't made it over there yet. I started on the forums for my device, then Android OS, and lastly general. Is there any other place I should pay special attention to that would help me?
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok? I'm not sure I understand, is there something you don't like about the aokp rom that doesn't work very well?
I want off of the carrier provided images based on personal conviction. Google's development practices smack of cathedral, as do all of the 3rd party companies. In a sense they are abusing the spirit of free software by using a signed kernel to impede (if not actually prevent) our right to modify hardware we own. Any normal user of the software provided by the community (bazaar) can only help the cause.
I plan to share what I personally learn with close friends who live in my area. The more people we liberate, the better for everyone else. I simply applaud the work done here.
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
karate104 said:
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
From a relative noob:
Follow the directions in the " [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!! " thread. Then pick a rom you want to try and follow the CWM directions ... after that , find a ROM you like. If you don't want to void your warranty, wait for your carrier to provide the closest thing to what you want ... but, I'm happy with my flashed ICS ROM.
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
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Just like everyone else has said. Read read read. Search for answers for your questions before you ask on forums. U will be fine as long as u can read and follow simple directions. Good luck to u. If u haven't flashed a rom yet I would recommend aokp. Awesome rom.
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Ok, so im looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 specifically in the Frankenstein firmwares section because, seriously, if your going to put bits and peices together they gotta be the good bits n peices right?
Im mostly confused tho, whats the difference between LP2, LP3, LPS, LP4, LP7, LPD, etc.?
I know many of them were released in different regions, branding is going to be slightly different, apps i dont care about i usually strip out the crappy apps anyways.
I flash my modem because its what works best for me. Kernel i use Siyah. What differences, if any, will i see with the different roms? Or are they all pretty much the same?
If they are all pretty much the same then that begs the question why all the different versions? Which is widely accepted as "the best" or "One of the best" ?
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That last sentance was more directed as a "stay away from JPKI1 its rather buggy, ____ Is pretty much the same but without the bugs". On my prime its the same firmware pretty much worldwide, just translation is different for each region. Its easy to tell which version is better, usually the higher number is newer and has the previous versions bugs worked out. Samsung had to go weird and make regional updates so every region has a different version. THAT is where my confusion is.
pileot said:
Ok, so im looking at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 specifically in the Frankenstein firmwares section because, seriously, if your going to put bits and peices together they gotta be the good bits n peices right?
Im mostly confused tho, whats the difference between LP2, LP3, LPS, LP4, LP7, LPD, etc.?
I know many of them were released in different regions, branding is going to be slightly different, apps i dont care about i usually strip out the crappy apps anyways.
I flash my modem because its what works best for me. Kernel i use Siyah. What differences, if any, will i see with the different roms? Or are they all pretty much the same?
If they are all pretty much the same then that begs the question why all the different versions? Which is widely accepted as "the best" or "One of the best" ?
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And you were doing so well up until that last sentence.
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And you were doing so well up until that last sentence.
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Lol, in reguards to that i HAVE been trying out as many roms as i can and frankly im starting to forget which ones i tried and which ones i didnt try. I have found that some are just bad and people say to avoid them because most people have problems, thats more what i was hoping for with that statment.
I dont expect to have people do the work for me or try all the roms for me, and i know whats good for one person may not be good for another, im just... Overwhelmed by the abundance of options that are all apparently the same. Thats all.
To reiterate: THIS IS NOT A WHICH IS BEST thread, its a whats the difference thread, and im hoping to be pointed in the direction of which i might stay away from due to poor performance and which generally are the more accepted. But if even such generalities are pushing the rules too much we can omit that bit.
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Lol, in reguards to that i HAVE been trying out as many roms as i can and frankly im starting to forget which ones i tried and which ones i didnt try. I have found that some are just bad and people say to avoid them because most people have problems, thats more what i was hoping for with that statment.
I dont expect to have people do the work for me or try all the roms for me, and i know whats good for one person may not be good for another, im just... Overwhelmed by the abundance of options that are all apparently the same. Thats all.
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I've found changing your kernel makes more of a difference for me, since I tend to do most modding on my own anyway.
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I've found changing your kernel makes more of a difference for me, since I tend to do most modding on my own anyway.
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Where can i learn about modding roms? Usually i find im doing the same things to the roms i download, remove bloatware, install apex, install my own calendar and other widgets... If im already removing the differences then why bother changing roms since they are the same?
pileot said:
Lol, in reguards to that i HAVE been trying out as many roms as i can and frankly im starting to forget which ones i tried and which ones i didnt try. I have found that some are just bad and people say to avoid them because most people have problems, thats more what i was hoping for with that statment.
I dont expect to have people do the work for me or try all the roms for me, and i know whats good for one person may not be good for another, im just... Overwhelmed by the abundance of options that are all apparently the same. Thats all.
To reiterate: THIS IS NOT A WHICH IS BEST thread, its a whats the difference thread, and im hoping to be pointed in the direction of which i might stay away from due to poor performance and which generally are the more accepted. But if even such generalities are pushing the rules too much we can omit that bit.
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Where in Canada are you located?
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Where in Canada are you located?
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Alberta, why?
pileot said:
Where can i learn about modding roms? Usually i find im doing the same things to the roms i download, remove bloatware, install apex, install my own calendar and other widgets... If im already removing the differences then why bother changing roms since they are the same?
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Just searching the forums, dude. I had to do all my own legwork learning how to decompile .apk files, how to then tweak/edit them, then recompile them... Along with how to use smali/baksmali. There are a bunch of tutorials out there in the Theme/App section, as well as the development sections.
Just start somewhat small; do some searches for "APK Edit" or "APK Manager". That should give you something to start with. Once you have a grasp of that, you'll find other stuff just ends up in your lap as a result.
Edit to add: as a result of what I've picked up, I've found I prefer Samsung stock firmwares that I tweak to my own liking over other ROMs.
Well back to the root question: Main difference between the many, many different versions of stock ICS. What kind of stuff do they change? Whats so different between WXLP7 and LPDFG, for instance?
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Alberta, why?
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I'm on the same device and live in bc and i'm on mugld3 modem, and it's pretty good for me
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pileot said:
Well back to the root question: Main difference between the many, many different versions of stock ICS. What kind of stuff do they change? Whats so different between WXLP7 and LPDFG, for instance?
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Unfortunately, Samsung doesn't publish changelogs. So the only way to know is to try them both out yourself...
Or I guess you could wait until someone who already has tried them both out and noted all the changes reads this post and responds.
kilometers4 said:
I'm on the same device and live in bc and i'm on mugld3 modem, and it's pretty good for me
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I think he was asking about the overall firmwares, and not specifically the modem.
I was kinda hoping for the latter since my unexperienced eye didnt notice anything doing the former.
Didnt know sammy didnt provide changelogs, that kind of sucks. Oh well, was worth a shot i guess.
Guess this thread wont go anywhere since theres no tangeable proof one way or the other of any differences. Thanks for the patience with me anyways XD
Hey XDA,
I got my S3 at launch, and ever since I've seen some great Jelly Bean roms coming out I've been tempted to flash one on. My only problem is that I'll be losing S Beam, Smart Stay and Direct Call.
Just wondering if anyone who has already done so can give me some advice on weather it's worth it? Weather the Jelly Bean features outweigh the built in ones or not? Any feedback would be great, thanks.
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XoomZoom said:
Hey XDA,
I got my S3 at launch, and ever since I've seen some great Jelly Bean roms coming out I've been tempted to flash one on. My only problem is that I'll be losing S Beam, Smart Stay and Direct Call.
Just wondering if anyone who has already done so can give me some advice on weather it's worth it? Weather the Jelly Bean features outweigh the built in ones or not? Any feedback would be great, thanks.
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Samsung is almost ready testing Jellybean for the S3, it will come out in about 6-8 weeks officialy. Maybe some leaked roms will pop up at Sammobile soon. If you only want to root for Jellybean i would not do it and wait for a little while.
If you want those features stock with Samsung based roms and wait for the official jelly, in the meantime check out a few custom s Samsung roms to keep the flash addiction happy
There's a few reasons I'd flash one of these roms on it. #1 being I for some reason am a massive vanilla android fan, and #2 being that I live in Australia and it will probably take them an extra 6 months to bring the official update here after it's released. Although, I did get the "Stability Improvement" update last weekend, a few weeks off the rest of the world, is that an indication of future updates being that quick also?
Thanks for your replies and I look forward to continue this thread to help me decide. One part of me is thinking how hard is it to touch the screen to stop it from sleeping, press a button to call someone, or use bluetooth to transfer files bigger than web pages. The other is saying what's the point of getting the latest and greatest smartphone to get rid of it's advertised features?
I think ultimately the answer is just flash it and if you don't like them just restore your nandroid! I've got 4 now, of different roms/kernels ....it's like having quad boot!
slaphead20 said:
I think ultimately the answer is just flash it and if you don't like them just restore your nandroid! I've got 4 now, of different roms/kernels ....it's like having quad boot!
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Wait you can have multiple roms installed at once? I thought you could only have one! I'm quite new to this. Also while I'm here, how do I edit my signature? I can't find it in the CP anywhere
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Wait you can have multiple roms installed at once? I thought you could only have one! I'm quite new to this. Also while I'm here, how do I edit my signature? I can't find it in the CP anywhere
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if you root then you can create a nandroid backup(complete system image) so I try different roms, if I like one I set it all up then do a nandroid, so if I want to try other roms and come back I just restore it, but now that this will lose your data between making that original nandroid and returning to it
Are you kidding me? Another "Custom Rom or Not" Thread???? Really !?????
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Already hundreds of times something has been written about these threads!
Don't open such Threads!
-Use Google
-Use other forums
-decide for yourself
XDA was made for DEVELOPERS to come and collaborate together. It's pretty sad that people have become so entitled to think XDA is a community where you can demand things, ask stupid questions, and expect people to solve your issues for you.
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Are you kidding me? Another "Custom Rom or Not" Thread???? Really !?????
Already hundreds of times something has been written about these threads!
Don't open such Threads!
-Use Google
-Use other forums
-decide for yourself
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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Nevertheless, you can compare your questions with other questions and answer them. Be it here or in other forums.
Because I do not think your question is "unique" and can not be answered with another question that has already been asked.
You must simply enter your title in Google and then you'll find massive pages, where the same or similar question has been answered.
Why I am so upset about it? I have already explained in my text.
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Everyone's situation is different, hence why I'm asking. Also, I'm not "demanding" anything, I'm simply asking people who have already done what I'm thinking an opinion, and even developers can explain what the pros of using their software compared to stock if they so desire. I may be new to these forums, but I've been a part of the Android community since it's release so I don't appreciate being treated like a so called "noob" when if you calm down, sit back and think about it I have not broken any rules, and I posted it in Questions and Answers not the Development section so this is also the correct section.
To the other people who actually cared to share their opinion, thanks, and I think I'll give a few custom roms a go.
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This is not exactly a whats best rom post its asking is JB reliable enough to install; as its a not yet released firmware .Plus featureless lost .
Simple solution for whats the best rom posts is to report to a mod let them decide .
Personally i would not report this as its not a whats best rom post .
But OP i would actually wait for JB release from Samsung .
jje
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This is not exactly a whats best rom post its asking is JB reliable enough to install; as its a not yet released firmware .Plus featureless lost .
Simple solution for whats the best rom posts is to report to a mod let them decide .
Personally i would not report this as its not a whats best rom post .
But OP i would actually wait for JB release from Samsung .
jje
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Then he should change the title. There may be discrepancies because of his title.
You have to admit that the title "Custom Rom or Not?" sounds like such a post
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Then he should change the title. There may be discrepancies because of his title.
You have to admit that the title "Custom Rom or Not?" sounds like such a post
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Its getting a bit off topic but i dont actually disagree with your viewpoint . Its just a complete waste of time forum is what its users are and their is no way around a general lowering of standards apart from the mods saying bang bang .I gave up a long long time ago and now ignore many posts .
OP not included in the above .
jje
Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and I will change the title.
I have decided I'll do a backup of my current software and just give a few roms a go can't hurt unless I brick it.
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Thank you all, I appreciate the feedback and I will change the title.
I have decided I'll do a backup of my current software and just give a few roms a go can't hurt unless I brick it.
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Try temasek's rom, it's fast and fluid and i rarely have launcher redraws. Google Now is suprisingly useful in all times.
Some people think they are mods, just report the threads instead of coming into every thread you think look useless lol.. Talk about waste of energy
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