Hi all
I am still learning and this question crosses my mind alot. We know the fact that rooting our phone will just void the warranty. I know you will say : flash it when you are about to return for warranty and reset binary with jig.
Now, when we need to return for warranty, this mean that there is something wrong with the phone. This issues can be as simple as button not working to some complex issue.
Lets say. It is the volume button is the one that is broken.
"how are we going to flash when the button we need to flash is not working?
I really want to root my phone but the question above has made me very worried.
Have you had any experience with this kind of situationn
Thanks all
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if you root it you will have cwm (clock work mode) on your phone which will allow you to put it in download mode from your touch screen.
CWM has a variety of flashing options built into, that why most people root their phones besides giving access to the firmware of the phone.
First question is why root >> You only root if you actually need root .
As posted CWM has recovery .
Warranty Custom rom voids warranty.
Rooting voids warranty .
Signs of custom rom are custom rom counter set above zero .
Return to stock for warranty is flash stock rom wipes root and reset custom rom counter to zero using USB jig .
Rooted phone and cannot carry out above then its a risk regards returning for warranty and will depend upon the nature of the fault and the service guy himself .
Thats the risk you take and i would put that as a 50/1 shot about a 2% risk of phone user having to pay for repairs .Though by not following instructions risk rises considerably .
jje
You won't need the volume keys when you use a USB jig.
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You won't need the volume keys when you use a USB jig.
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Does the USB jig put the phone into download mode then? I don't have one (not going to bother unless I need to send the phone away) so don't actually know what it does other than resetting the counter .
You can also use Advanced Power Menu to restart the phone in download/recovery, I use this as it's much more convenient than turning the phone off then holding the button combo.
I haven't used the CWM app but I'm guessing that can restart in download mode too?
But I guess if the jig puts it in download mode none of this matters really since to reset the counter you will need one anyways.
Bloomfield87 said:
Does the USB jig put the phone into download mode then? I don't have one (not going to bother unless I need to send the phone away) so don't actually know what it does other than resetting the counter .
You can also use Advanced Power Menu to restart the phone in download/recovery, I use this as it's much more convenient than turning the phone off then holding the button combo.
I haven't used the CWM app but I'm guessing that can restart in download mode too?
But I guess if the jig puts it in download mode none of this matters really since to reset the counter you will need one anyways.
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
This gives apiece of mind.
One question. How do i get to the advance power menu? I have not seen this.
Much appreciate the share info.
I learn a lot from you all.
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ardabelati said:
Thanks for all the replies guys.
This gives apiece of mind.
One question. How do i get to the advance power menu? I have not seen this.
Much appreciate the share info.
I learn a lot from you all.
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The APM is cooked into a custom ROM or addon to a custom ROM. Accessed by holding the power button when system is booted. Many options including those of the above poster
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i tried flashing it and ionstalling a rom for the first time but it froze halfway through for like 3 hours so i just unplugged it and now this screen comes up...
no whenever i turn it on it gives me a screen with :
a phone .... an explanation mark in a triangle ! . .. . a computer
anything i can do?
also ive tried every button trick on trying to restore it and none of it works all of it just come with that screen. except for the download one where i press volume down home button and power
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i tried flashing it and ionstalling a rom for the first time but it froze halfway through for like 3 hours so i just unplugged it and now this screen comes up...
no whenever i turn it on it gives me a screen with :
a phone .... an explanation mark in a triangle ! . .. . a computer
anything i can do?
also ive tried every button trick on trying to restore it and none of it works all of it just come with that screen. except for the download one where i press volume down home button and power
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you are really not giving a lot of details here...all you are saying you tried installing a rom and then it froze halfway..
Are you rooted firstly?
If you are have you flashed CF-root kernel?
How did you try to install the rom?
More info and then more people can help you out buddy..see if you can get into recovery and restart your phone.
well... if you've tried "every" (its not like there are a lot) button combination... then just go buy a jig from ebay and force it into download mode...
Matriak31 said:
you are really not giving a lot of details here...all you are saying you tried installing a rom and then it froze halfway..
Are you rooted firstly?
If you are have you flashed CF-root kernel?
How did you try to install the rom?
More info and then more people can help you out buddy..see if you can get into recovery and restart your phone.
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Nothing from what you said would help..
He obviously flashed it with Odin, and he said he's getting a yellow triangle with a computer behind it..
From what I understood, he could get into download mode.
So just boot into download mode and flash stock ROM. That should do it.
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anyone else seeing an increase in the "i bricked my phone" threads?
dont think its coincidence they are increasing after the american variants have been released. People need to check what model they have before flashing things.
OP: not saying thats what has happened to you as you dont say if you have the i9100 or not, hopefully you do.
bruflot said:
Nothing from what you said would help..
He obviously flashed it with Odin, and he said he's getting a yellow triangle with a computer behind it..
From what I understood, he could get into download mode.
So just boot into download mode and flash stock ROM. That should do it.
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well from what he said by his post did not make sense at all..hence why i asked for more details to explain so i could give him a better explanation and guide to fix his problem...but you seem to get what he said so by all means do your thing....but if he comes back with more detail then i will point him to the right direction on what he needs to do...at the end of the day the more opinions he has the better for him
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well from what he said by his post did not make sense at all..hence why i asked for more details to explain so i could give him a better explanation and guide to fix his problem...but you seem to get what he said so by all means do your thing....but if he comes back with more detail then i will point him to the right direction on what he needs to do...at the end of the day the more opinions he has the better for him
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Yes of course
Btw, never ment to insult you in any ways
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Yes of course
Btw, never ment to insult you in any ways
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its ok and same goes by my post as well buddy..we all been in his position one way or the other
1st - Your phone is not bricked if it show an image. Whatever image it is. The only real software way to brick your phone is to flash bad bootloader or stop a bootloader while they are being flashed. However, Bootloader are flashed first. So if your phone stoped half way, you should not have trouble too much.
Remove the battery from your phone for like a minute, then reboot your phone in download mode (vol- + home + power and when the phone light up, release power.) Then flash another rom from odin.
Also, what rom did you used ? If you flashed a rom for another phone, then you might have flashed bootloader for that phone on yours, which is bad. In this case you will surely need a JIG.
sorry im new to this whole rooting/flashing thing. i downloaded the lightning rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
i have never rooted or doneanthing to my s2 before. all i did was follow the instructions on the page and thought it would be all good? it froze about a quarter of the way there in odin so i just took my phone out.
I usually find from this state I can get back to bootloader or download states
push and hold vol+ and home then power for bootloader
push and hold vol- and home then power for download
sometimes the phone can seem to freeze a little or even die (this happened to me loads on the galaxy s and once already on the s2) and removing battery sim etc or attaching the charger can jog it
however as other have said a JIG is your friend if for no other reason that even if you recover without it, custom roms up the rom count which some twitchy carriers might invalidate your warranty for, the jig will reset this
you can get them from ebay for less than £3 delivered, or there are instructions on this site for making them yourself if you are so inclined.
simply search 'galaxy s2 jig' on ebay mine was delivered today from portugal as I am way too lazy to make one and only wanted a counter reset anyway
hey guys,, is there any solution to reset custom counter softly without usb jig??
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hey guys,, is there any solution to reset custom counter softly without usb jig??
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Not yet.
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soMeee said:
hey guys,, is there any solution to reset custom counter softly without usb jig??
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Jigs are crazy cheap on ebay. I got one for < $3.
so, where is the software using in usb jig,, which we can use without using jig
Nope. Probably never will be.
Edit to add - There is no "software using in usb jig which we can use without using jig". You switch the phone off, plug the jig in the usb port on the phone & it resets the flash counter/changes Custom Binary Download to "no" & changes the Custom Binary to "Samsung Official" when the phone is in download mode. No software required.
Do a search on eBay for "Samsung Galaxy S2 jig" (without the "").
does it cancel the warranty? if I go to Samsung services and my cus. counter counted 1 unofficial ROM??
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does it cancel the warranty? if I go to Samsung services and my cus. counter counted 1 unofficial ROM??
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Search. Read.
No.
EDIT: No. If you need it, you already voided your warranty. The jig is a tool to get your phone back to the state where your warranty is still intact. You could find that yourself, if you used the 'Search' button and read the threads you find there. Or hell, Google even. Seriously, XDA isn't a place for this kind of crap.
The information is in the forums, if you want it->READ THE FORUMS.
If you go to Samsung service, and they see that your custom counter is set to 1 then your warranty is void. The jig resets this counter to 0.
The moment you flash custom roms or kernels on your phone you void your warranty, yes. And yes, if they see the counter at 1 or showing anything other than Samsung Official in download mode, they more than likely will not fix it under warranty.
However if you are able to put stock firmware back on your phone, get rid of any apps that might give whomever fixes it a clue that you've rooted it, and use a jig to reset the flash counter, there's a fair chance (not 100% tho mind you) you might be able to have it fixed under warranty.
To be perfectly honest, if you want to have a 100% chance of having anything that goes wrong with the phone fixed under warranty, do not put custom firmware on your phone. At all. Ever.
in case of me, I bought it from someone on ebay and did not know that till today
Hello everyone,
I've just bricked my S2.
It won't start at all.
I've flashed I9100XXLP1_I9100OXALP1_OXA and tried to root it with cf-root-sgs2_xx_oxa_ki3-v4.1-cwm4
After the root it won't start up, it was showing SAMSUNG and the yellow triangle with a ! in it.
I've tried to re flash the XXLP1 and it won't start flashing, so I pulled the data cable.
And now it won't start.
PLS HEEEELP!!!
I'm from Romania, maybe someone from Bucharest can help me.
It is not mine, and the owner is anxious to see it, I just wanted to help her unlock it, and..... (
pls help!!
thx a lot!!!
try a usb jig but seems like its a complete brick if it will not turn, needs jtagging by the sounds of it,
can you go into download mod? flash stock firmware in download mod via odin by press volume down +home button + power.
humaila said:
Hello everyone,
I've just bricked my S2.
It won't start at all.
I've flashed I9100XXLP1_I9100OXALP1_OXA and tried to root it with cf-root-sgs2_xx_oxa_ki3-v4.1-cwm4
After the root it won't start up, it was showing SAMSUNG and the yellow triangle with a ! in it.
I've tried to re flash the XXLP1 and it won't start flashing, so I pulled the data cable.
And now it won't start.
PLS HEEEELP!!!
I'm from Romania, maybe someone from Bucharest can help me.
It is not mine, and the owner is anxious to see it, I just wanted to help her unlock it, and..... (
pls help!!
thx a lot!!!
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1) You didn't read instructions... Why would you try to root a XXLP1 >> ICS << Rom with a KI3 >> Gingerbread << CF-Root ? It states in Chainfire's thread to find the matching letters and root it with the corresponding kernel... You DIDN'T bother to read.
2) Like the poster above said, try entering download mode, and flashing stock ROM again... If you can't, read >> 4)
3) You can try with a USB Jig, though i doubt it will help...
4) Seems like it's completely bricked, probably will need jtag repair, or maybe you can get lucky with warranty + samsung repair service
5) Learn to read...
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try a usb jig but seems like its a complete brick if it will not turn, needs jtagging by the sounds of it,
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this is what I want to do next
thx
sopheaknhek said:
can you go into download mod? flash stock firmware in download mod via odin by press volume down +home button + power.
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nope, it's completely dead
@gr4ndm4st3r_bl4ck
yes, my bad
do you think that if I send it back from where I bought it and lie them that it didn't start at all, and that I didn't do anything they will replace it?
it is worth it to try or they will figure it out?
thanks
You could send it into your carrier/Samsung for repair & they might repair it anyway, but there's a much greater chance they'll charge you for it.
A jig is very unlikely to work, but for the sake of a few dollars is worth a try.
Do a search for JTAG repair on here/Google (here's one to get you started). This will probably be cheaper than having it repaired by Samsung/whomever does their repairs in your country.
Which option you choose is obviously up to you.
As MistahBungle said, you could try taking it to samsung and they might repair it under warranty,no questions asked...then again,they could charge you more likely than not... If that happened to me I would take the phone to samsung as i don't trust those shady guys doing jtag repairs... they fu** something up, you lose warranty, you get left without a phone...my 2 cents
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gr4ndm4st3r_bl4ck said:
As MistahBungle said, you could try taking it to samsung and they might repair it under warranty,no questions asked...then again,they could charge you more likely than not... If that happened to me I would take the phone to samsung as i don't trust those shady guys doing jtag repairs... they fu** something up, you lose warranty, you get left without a phone...my 2 cents
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I sent it back to them.
Reason: I tried to update via Kies and it went black.
They said it will be replaced -> YEEEEY!!!
Thanks a lot for you concern.
humaila said:
I sent it back to them.
Reason: I tried to update via Kies and it went black.
They said it will be replaced -> YEEEEY!!!
Thanks a lot for you concern.
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No problem dude, glad you managed to get it under warranty Just make sure you read the instructions carefully next time
hi everybody!
all the steps below were taken from galaxys2root.com as well as the files
i have i9100 with a stock rom 2.3.4 (ki4) (and 1.4gb of free memory-maybe that was the problem).
yesterday i rooted it (everything was fine) and then i installed CWM recovery 4.0.1.4 through odin v1.85 (went fine too) and then on my way to find myself a new rom i decided to backup my current one with cwm. then i entered cwm by pressing vol-down+pwr+home and hit "backup". it backed up the system and then moved on to the data and thats where it got stuck for like an hour.... from the guide i understood that it shouldnt take more than 10 min- 15 min top so i figured that im having a problem, i tuned off the phone by pressing pwr button and turn it back on, then the phone got stuck on the sgs2 screen with the triangle so i turned it off again----> this time it didnt came back on, and not responding to download mode neither to polling battery out or not even by connecting to usb and charger- just dead!
how is it possible? and what should i do to bring it back to life? (and myself)
thank you very much(please help...), and sorry for the long text and the bad english
do you have usb jig with you?
i assume you brick your phone.
read my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402286 carefully. anyway, usb jig will not harm your device
No download mode = try jig. Jig doesn't work = JTAG repair by 3rd party repairer (cheaper option) or JTAG repair my Samsung (more expensive option).
thank you,
no dont have one but i ordered from ebay.
is there a chance that my battery died and as a result of the two my phone wont respond?
Possible but highly unlikely. I guess you might as well try a new battery, at worst you'll have a spare when you get the phone repaired.
Fairly common problem go to forum xx download something and follow the instructions dont work go to a totally different forum and ask why ???
CWM 4 very old .
vol-down+pwr+home and hit "backup why ??? thats download mode
My guess would be wrong instructions/firmware .
The other question to ask is it a i9100 or a different version .
jje
i really hope thats the problem, im going to a friend now to try with his battry.
but really how is it possible that my phone is bricked when i didnt even try to flash a new rom, and more than that it happened in the backup process when all the cwm does is a copy operation... so what really had happened?
JJEgan said:
Fairly common problem go to forum xx download something and follow the instructions dont work go to a totally different forum and ask why ???
CWM 4 very old .
vol-down+pwr+home and hit "backup why ??? thats download mode
My guess would be wrong instructions/firmware .
The other question to ask is it a i9100 or a different version .
jje
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to be honest i was too lazy to search here (which im not going to be now)
thats what he was doing in the video (it did went in cwm)
and my phone is i9100 i bought it in the UK
Wrong firmware faulty firmware wrong instructions any number of things can go wrong with a flash . But it is very odd that it happens in backup recovery yes but backup very rare .
jje
JJEgan said:
Wrong firmware faulty firmware wrong instructions any number of things can go wrong with a flash . But it is very odd that it happens in backup recovery yes but backup very rare .
jje
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so there is a slight chance that its the battery right?
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so there is a slight chance that its the battery right?
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no, there is not.
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ok the battery swap doesnt work so its not the problem,
any other ideas??? (except usb jig and jtag)
thanks
Jig <=1% chance of getting you into download mode, JTAG = 100% chance of fixing it. Other options = 0.
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Jig <=1% chance of getting you into download mode, JTAG = 100% chance of fixing it. Other options = 0.
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I should say jog = 50% chances of getting into download mode. JTAG is more like a solution for hard brick(totally unresponsive, bootloader totally mess up, brain system totally corrupted).
Base on my understanding, getting yourself a hard brick is harder than finding a needle in a haystack. If you go through zedomax(galaxys2root.com owner), he mentioned that he flashed all his android device countless time. All he got is just a couple of soft brick. Never a hard brick. Don't waste your money first. Invest on a cheap usb jig which only cost around 2 dollar, compare to JTAG services which cost 50 dollar.
If usb jig doesn't work, try to go for warranty , see whether they charge you or not. If warranty doesn't cover you and cost less than 50 dollar to repair, go for it.
Only go for JTAG if every effort above don't work.
Warning: JTAG is just a service that reinject Samsung firmware into your device. If your phone has hardware failure, I don't think they can help. Unless they provide hardware repair now. If you wanna be sure, email or call them up to see if they provide hardware repair/replace as well, just in case it is a hardware failure cases.
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i know its a very rare situation but it happened. I've tried the jig and it didnt work, then i decided to send it back to the store and they told me they have sent it to the manufacturer, now im waiting...
Hii friends, few months back I rooted my phone. Now m planning to change the ROM. But m very much concern about working of my homekey button. Even after pressing it, it doesn't respond though sometimes it works properly (but only sometimes). My current ROM gives me option to go into recovery by pressing restart button but I am not sure whether the same option is there in the new ROM which I am planning to install. I might have problems if it doesn't have that option coz booting into recovery might get difficult if the key doesn't work. Is there any solution for it?
And also will Samsung service center entertain me with it taking into consideration the rooted state of phone (yellow triangle still there)?
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Hii friends, few months back I rooted my phone. Now m planning to change the ROM. But m very much concern about working of my homekey button. Even after pressing it, it doesn't respond though sometimes it works properly (but only sometimes). My current ROM gives me option to go into recovery by pressing restart button but I am not sure whether the same option is there in the new ROM which I am planning to install. I might have problems if it doesn't have that option coz booting into recovery might get difficult if the key doesn't work. Is there any solution for it?
And also will Samsung service center entertain me with it taking into consideration the rooted state of phone (yellow triangle still there)?
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Well firstly, you can use Triangle Away to reset binary counter and remove yellow triangle, then just flash stock rom via ODIN if you want to return for warranty.
Second, There are various apps on net that can reboot your device into recovery or download modes.
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Well firstly, you can use Triangle Away to reset binary counter and remove yellow triangle, then just flash stock rom via ODIN if you want to return for warranty.
Second, There are various apps on net that can reboot your device into recovery or download modes.
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My warranty period is over so that's not a problem. Will they take it with the triangle?
And thanks for information
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