I just installed Rom Manger. I want to do a Nandroid backup before I do any ROM flashing in the future, long future. Do I have to have ClockworksMod installed to do a Nandroid backup?
Is it a risky thing to install or "flash" ClockworksMod without having a Nandroid backup?
Sorry if this question is asked too much. I am just being VERY careful about doing anything without a Nandroid backup yet. I couldn't find anything related to my question.
Thanks
You need a custom recovery to do a nandroid backup.
I would recommend however you use one of the older CWM version or Amon Ra.
The CWM version 3.x and up have been known to mess up your SD-EXT.
If your not running SD-EXT don't worry about the later part of this post.
baseballfanz said:
You need a custom recovery to do a nandroid backup.
I would recommend however you use one of the older CWM version or Amon Ra.
The CWM version 3.x and up have been known to mess up your SD-EXT.
If your not running SD-EXT don't worry about the later part of this post.
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soo I need to have CWM? I guess this is more of a confirmation question. Is there big risk in installing or "flashing" CWM onto my phone? Or is that low risk and necessary?
lgnationrc said:
soo I need to have CWM? I guess this is more of a confirmation question. Is there big risk in installing or "flashing" CWM onto my phone? Or is that low risk and necessary?
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No big risk, ROM manager make it easy.
well this is just the part i dont understand about android.. why would a backup need a custom recovery? i meant it is just a backup.. i think all android stock ROM should come in stock with the same kind of custom recovery that permits nandroid backup.. it would be much easier that way dont you think?
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No big risk, ROM manager make it easy.
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Ok, did it, no problem. I'll let you know how the back up goes. Is there a big risk in that?
Sorry if I seem paranoid, I just don't want a $640 brick. I can get one off the sidewalk where I live for free!
It's perfectly safe to do a nandroid backup. The reason it's not a feature of stock software is that it requires Root access, and handset makers don't want us end users to have that much control over our devices.
DirkGently1 said:
It's perfectly safe to do a nandroid backup. The reason it's not a feature of stock software is that it requires Root access, and handset makers don't want us end users to have that much control over our devices.
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Just did it, no problem. Off topic, why don't the companies want use to be able to fully control our devices? Microsoft has no problem with it with their products.
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Hi, I'm very new to this modding community. I have unlocked the bootloader, installed Amon Ra recovery. Installed Cleanrom and Ziggy's kernal and rooted through Amon Ra.
Now is there way to make sure I have done all this correctly. In other words, how can I confirm I have done everything properly. Thanks guys.
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Hi, I'm very new to this modding community. I have unlocked the bootloader, installed Amon Ra recovery. Installed Cleanrom and Ziggy's kernal and rooted through Amon Ra.
Now is there way to make sure I have done all this correctly. In other words, how can I confirm I have done everything properly. Thanks guys.
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Did you root right after you unlocked? Otherwise you couldn't really install all of those things.
As for checking for root, you need to install an app that requires root access like Titanium Backup Pro. You should also have an app in your app drawer called SuperUser. This will allow your root apps to work. If you try to open a root app, SuperUser should come up and ask for permission to run as root.
In order to check for proper installation of the ROM, you need to see what all is included in that ROM to make sure you have it on your phone. I don't know what that one has, so I couldn't tell you. Just look at the main post.
For the kernel, install something like SetCpu or Antutu CPU Master to make sure you can overclock to 1.83gHz. If you can do that, you have the kernel installed correctly.
If AmonRa is installed, you should be able to boot into recovery. When you are there, you should have a menu on a black screen with a bunch of different options. Make sure you make a Nand backup of your phone before you make any major changes to anything.
Let me know if this helps.
Thanks, that's very helpful. Looks like I have root and I think the Cleanrom installed properly as the bloat is gone and some of the tweaks are present.
I installed SetCPU and the speed is 1.5ghz, which means I didn't install Ziggy's kernal properly.
I used this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419587
Downloaded the Autokernalinstaller. Ran Run buildFlashable.bat. Then I placed the created zip file on the sd card. Went into recovery and installed the zip. Backed into bootloader and clicked yes.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
nexu1 said:
Thanks, that's very helpful. Looks like I have root and I think the Cleanrom installed properly as the bloat is gone and some of the tweaks are present.
I installed SetCPU and the speed is 1.5ghz, which means I didn't install Ziggy's kernal properly.
I used this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419587
Downloaded the Autokernalinstaller. Ran Run buildFlashable.bat. Then I placed the created zip file on the sd card. Went into recovery and installed the zip. Backed into bootloader and clicked yes.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
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Hmm, I did it the old way. The only thing I would ask is if you installed the Kernel after you flashed the rom? Whenever you flash a new rom, you'll need to make sure you reflash the new kernel. Also make sure that you have only one PH98IMG.img (ziggy's) on your ext sdcard. I would try flashing it again to make sure it goes this time.
Tried it again using the manual method and it worked. Thanks!
Any other tips for the future? Should I keep an eye out for updated version of my installed rom? Will we get CM9 or do we need s-off for that? Are there any other benefits s-off offers that we dont have with unlocked bootloader?
THanks you rock!
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Tried it again using the manual method and it worked. Thanks!
Any other tips for the future? Should I keep an eye out for updated version of my installed rom? Will we get CM9 or do we need s-off for that? Are there any other benefits s-off offers that we dont have with unlocked bootloader?
THanks you rock!
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S-Off just makes things muuuuuuch easier for us. We can still do pretty much anything that we want to do with S-On, it's just a big pain. From my understanding, we need S-Off in order to flash ROMs with custom kernels already built in. Otherwise we have to do it this way where we need to flash the kernel after the ROM. I'm new to the entire S-Off thing since I've used Moto phones before this.
Yes, check for updated versions of your ROM. Also make sure you do Nand backups any time you make changes. Can't stress that enough. It will save your life haha. You can take them off your sdcard whenever you make new ones and just leave the newest one on your phone. I keep a folder on my comp with old nandroid backups. I do believe that they are working on getting CM7 or 9 for the Rez. Just going to take time to port everything over, I believe.
Glad I could help Good luck!
Hi out there! First should say im new on Android, and want to learn at least to a medium level user (flashing diferents ROMS, testing them, setting my phone how i like to, etc). Im now learning the basic vocabulary, looking and reserching about my android model and software. And the question is the next one:
I want to root my phone(SGS2/GT-I9100) by this method because i read the whole 44 pages of the thread and sounds safe, easy and all the people talks great about it (except one user that brick his phone ).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
And i have read too that the first thing you should do after rooting is an nandroid backup, so you can get to this point in a future if something doesn´t work rigth.
Usually the nandroid backups are made with CWM or Titanium backup. I would like to use CWM, and my question is:
When I follow below rooting guide, the CWM isn´t permanent no? it just used to flash de SU-Busybox. So should i download and install it to make the "holy" nandroid backup?? I found this other thread where is explained how to make this nandroid backup, with RM and then using CWM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592104
So after rooting, i should follow those steps no?( i mean, getting RM) Because my doubt is that the first CWM (the one i use for rooting) is the same i can use for de nandroid backup?? or this one its just to flash the SU intaller and i need to download and install it (CWM)? So i can follow both guides without any problem? im not doing the same thing 2 times no?
Thanks, and sorry for my english, it´s a little rusty... Im a noob and hate my self (xD), but want to learn.
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I'd recommend rooting with the cf root method. It installs SU, Busybox and CWM recovery. In recovery you can make a nandroid back up. It's quick and easy.
The links you posted came up with a 404 error.
Cf root is always the best way to root ur phone, since it also installs the CWM recovery for u, so that u can do the nandroid bkp for future use if any issue peeps while flashing any roms r mods
ps- please ensure u choose the right cf-root kernel to root ur phone
So i should follow this guide (i assumpt):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
But i have looked to my kernel version (wich is LPB) and boths files give an error when mounting secure storage (said by CF)...
rolfer said:
So i should follow this guide (i assumpt):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
But i have looked to my kernel version (wich is LPB) and boths files give an error when mounting secure storage (said by CF)...
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If that is what you fear I suggest installing a different official ROM which doesn't have the same problems with CF Root. Here is a thread where you can find many of them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
After flashing official firmware, THEN you can flash the appropriate CF Root
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rolfer said:
So i should follow this guide (i assumpt):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
But i have looked to my kernel version (wich is LPB) and boths files give an error when mounting secure storage (said by CF)...
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To make a nandroid backup, just use the same steps to launch CWM from stock recovery. You will be able to make a nandroid backup. To restore, it is same thing, you have to launch the CWM from stock recovery each time. That is the only difference with CF_Root, you have to launch CWM with an extra step as you keep your original stock CWM
As if you should use my superSU zip or original superuser one, I advise my zip for 2 reasons:
- SuperSU offers the possibility to easily unroot or migrate to superuser if you like (superuser does not natively offers this)
- it is the last version of busybox and fixes issues with some applications like adaway
Great! So i don´t need to install CWM then? I can do everything i need through it by this way? like nandroid backups, flashing ROMS, etc...? I want to make a nandroid backup just after rooting, to have a secure save if i need it in the future (I hope I don´t xD)
And then ill take your files cause are latest Today i don´t have enough battery to root the device securly, so i´ll do it tomorrow. I´ll tell here if it was succesfull for future readers with same doubt like me.
Thanks again!
Yes, you can do all that you like from the included cwm custom recovery. After reboot, you are still on your original stock CWM as it vanishes. That is really the only difference with a permanent cwm recovery (except maybe some custom mods/tweaks by kernel developers)
That way, no yellow triangle or custom flash counter increase
I am wanting to snatch a full backup of the completely stock unrooted factory shipped ROM before playing around with root and other wonderful goodies provided here in the forum. I am familiar with ADB and have it set up on my system. I was wonder how this may be accomplished. Whether I should use ADB to pull the backup or use another route. Essentially, before I root, I want the whole system in its entirety backed up.
Please, anyone with some knowledge on how to do this, I would greatly appreciate your input in this thread!
Thanks so much for your involvement.
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I am wanting to snatch a full backup of the completely stock unrooted factory shipped ROM before playing around with root and other wonderful goodies provided here in the forum. I am familiar with ADB and have it set up on my system. I was wonder how this may be accomplished. Whether I should use ADB to pull the backup or use another route. Essentially, before I root, I want the whole system in its entirety backed up.
Please, anyone with some knowledge on how to do this, I would greatly appreciate your input in this thread!
Thanks so much for your involvement.
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I think it's going to be hard to make a good full backup without having root. I would suggest rooting using mrRobinson's method, installing the CWM recovery 5.8.4.5 from clockworkmod.com (listed in mrRobinson's thread) and then making a nandroid backup.
You might also want to make a complete clone of all your block devices. There's some instructions here if you want to try that.
you could always use odin to restore the stock rom back to 100% original state (minus any counter trips).
so this is my problem. Im having some issues with my phone and I want it to be changed. The issues really dont matter. In order for my provider to send me another phone they want me to do a master reset. This of course will delete all my apps and settings. As far as I know there is not a backup app that once you restore the phone and apps the restored phone will have all it's app data in place, the icons will be where you want them, etc, just like you would from when you clone or make an image from a Hard Drive from pc... Or is there and application that will do this? My only other option (i believe) is to root the phone to then use an app to do a real backup, then unroot the phone, root the new phone and do the restore. I also have to remove the root from the old phone but can that be done without increasing the counter? This is all a big hassle. I cant believe you can do a real backup/restore on a phone nowadays....
If there is any other way to do it I will appreciate the help. I will have to do this in the next days since my warranty expires in a bit over a month...
Thanks!
You are correct ....
Rooting of the device is needed, then the unroot.
It's the only method I'm aware of in getting a full nandroid backup ..g
Sarge has it right if you want to use backup apps.
If you don't want to root, you will need to flash TWRP or CWR to get the custom recovery and backup. Then make a backup to your external SD card. Use recovery to factory reset. Send the phone away after removing SD card and sim card. The backup is called a nandroid and it is basically an image of the phone.
On new phone flash same recovery then restore the backup. When you start the phone it will be as the broken one was.
You can remove the recovery from the broken phone, but I never heard of anyone getting problems from the warranty people for that.
Thanks both of you guys for the information. I am getting ready to do the root not only for the backup but there are quite a few apps that I want to use that require root that I am going to have to do it.
Now, I started reading tonight and the more I read the more I get confused. Is there an official guide to root the note (specifically AT&T running ICS 4.0.4 if there is a difference) in a way that I can unroot it in the future avoiding tripping any counters?
I have read so many different threads about rooting, they tend to be different so I am looking for the "current" accepted "method" to do this with decent steps if possible. Thanks much!
Whoa whoa, are we forgetting about ADB Backup?
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
Fernandq said:
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
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Yeah I understand, you're wanting to do a full backup of your phone before you turn it in right? Or, at the very least, your apps and settings?
Welp, here you go: no root required.
A quick google search for "ADB backup" should get you the info you need as well.
Also looks like there's an XDA dev who came up with a much easier interface (as opposed to doing everything via command-line, which still isn't that difficult). Might be worth checking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36499906
Edit: Read your second post, and it looks like you're interested in rooting...I guess I was confused as to your intentions after reading you first post, which just sounded like you didn't want to lose your info after doing a factory reset. Regardless, it is HIGHLY advised before doing any sort of root-related activity to do an ADB backup. That way, if anything goes wrong in the rooting process itself, or if you later decide you want to go back to stock and/or all of your original apps and settings from before the root, you can literally be back with a clean slate within a matter of minutes.
Thanks very much for the link. I have swapped phones already but it will be helpful before I root. THANKS!
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
Fernandq said:
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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The full backup, yes (regarding being able to only restore to the same device) but you could literally extract whatever data you want from the ADB backup using WinRar, then manually push it to your new device.
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
gregsarg said:
As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
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But what's the point in putting things simply like that when I can write an entire paragraph saying the same thing, but more confusing??
Dear Sirs,
is there any way to follow in order to get from my Android Smartphone a complete backup that will contains everything and to be able using some way to restore in as bare metal? If there is such way please give me a detailed explanation or where there is a good how-to. Newbie here :laugh:
Thanks a lot in advance
P.S. I want to test some custom ROM's for my smartphone but I want to have a sure way to return it at the previous state with stock ROM apps and data ALL back to "stock".
mikekgr said:
Dear Sirs,
is there any way to follow in order to get from my Android Smartphone a complete backup that will contains everything and to be able using some way to restore in as bare metal? If there is such way please give me a detailed explanation or where there is a good how-to. Newbie here :laugh:
Thanks a lot in advance
P.S. I want to test some custom ROM's for my smartphone but I want to have a sure way to return it at the previous state with stock ROM apps and data ALL back to "stock".
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Use Recovery ClockWorkMod 5.0.2.6. With this application you can make a full backup.
Ulisses5590 said:
Use Recovery ClockWorkMod 5.0.2.6. With this application you can make a full backup.
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It ain't no application
And it depends upon his phone model that if CWM is available for him or not. If it is, then you can easily backup everything.