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I just installed Rom Manger. I want to do a Nandroid backup before I do any ROM flashing in the future, long future. Do I have to have ClockworksMod installed to do a Nandroid backup?
Is it a risky thing to install or "flash" ClockworksMod without having a Nandroid backup?
Sorry if this question is asked too much. I am just being VERY careful about doing anything without a Nandroid backup yet. I couldn't find anything related to my question.
Thanks
You need a custom recovery to do a nandroid backup.
I would recommend however you use one of the older CWM version or Amon Ra.
The CWM version 3.x and up have been known to mess up your SD-EXT.
If your not running SD-EXT don't worry about the later part of this post.
baseballfanz said:
You need a custom recovery to do a nandroid backup.
I would recommend however you use one of the older CWM version or Amon Ra.
The CWM version 3.x and up have been known to mess up your SD-EXT.
If your not running SD-EXT don't worry about the later part of this post.
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soo I need to have CWM? I guess this is more of a confirmation question. Is there big risk in installing or "flashing" CWM onto my phone? Or is that low risk and necessary?
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soo I need to have CWM? I guess this is more of a confirmation question. Is there big risk in installing or "flashing" CWM onto my phone? Or is that low risk and necessary?
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No big risk, ROM manager make it easy.
well this is just the part i dont understand about android.. why would a backup need a custom recovery? i meant it is just a backup.. i think all android stock ROM should come in stock with the same kind of custom recovery that permits nandroid backup.. it would be much easier that way dont you think?
baseballfanz said:
No big risk, ROM manager make it easy.
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Ok, did it, no problem. I'll let you know how the back up goes. Is there a big risk in that?
Sorry if I seem paranoid, I just don't want a $640 brick. I can get one off the sidewalk where I live for free!
It's perfectly safe to do a nandroid backup. The reason it's not a feature of stock software is that it requires Root access, and handset makers don't want us end users to have that much control over our devices.
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It's perfectly safe to do a nandroid backup. The reason it's not a feature of stock software is that it requires Root access, and handset makers don't want us end users to have that much control over our devices.
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Just did it, no problem. Off topic, why don't the companies want use to be able to fully control our devices? Microsoft has no problem with it with their products.
I am wanting to snatch a full backup of the completely stock unrooted factory shipped ROM before playing around with root and other wonderful goodies provided here in the forum. I am familiar with ADB and have it set up on my system. I was wonder how this may be accomplished. Whether I should use ADB to pull the backup or use another route. Essentially, before I root, I want the whole system in its entirety backed up.
Please, anyone with some knowledge on how to do this, I would greatly appreciate your input in this thread!
Thanks so much for your involvement.
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stedounel said:
I am wanting to snatch a full backup of the completely stock unrooted factory shipped ROM before playing around with root and other wonderful goodies provided here in the forum. I am familiar with ADB and have it set up on my system. I was wonder how this may be accomplished. Whether I should use ADB to pull the backup or use another route. Essentially, before I root, I want the whole system in its entirety backed up.
Please, anyone with some knowledge on how to do this, I would greatly appreciate your input in this thread!
Thanks so much for your involvement.
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I think it's going to be hard to make a good full backup without having root. I would suggest rooting using mrRobinson's method, installing the CWM recovery 5.8.4.5 from clockworkmod.com (listed in mrRobinson's thread) and then making a nandroid backup.
You might also want to make a complete clone of all your block devices. There's some instructions here if you want to try that.
you could always use odin to restore the stock rom back to 100% original state (minus any counter trips).
Hello!
Well, I got my S3 since a week ago, from my local carrier, and what so GREAT phone!!!... but, well as with my previous phones I woulkd like to install something more good custom Rom...
However, I bought my previous phones second hand, so, I was never minded about save the original firmware, since I didnt had a warranty to care about... but my S3 is new on a 2 year plan and I had a minimun 1 year warranty to care, so if I root or install a custom rom without have a backup of my exact local firmware version to reflash I would not have warranty ( and by this same reason no other carrier/country firmware would work as backup for my S3...)
So, I would like to ask if may be possible some help (for noob level, please, since I am somewhat new in Samsung issues ) , in order to what could be a good method make a full local backup of my phone,so since it is no root by now, and I wonder and suppose that if I root, if may be possible that the backup may save the rooted status of my phone and in case of a restore the root status may show that the phone was tweaked...
Thanks in advance for kind attention and help.
Best regards!
Read the forum stickies. Also use the search function to search for "help a noob" as this thread already exist.
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Read the forum stickies. Also use the search function to search for "help a noob" as this thread already exist.
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well, thanks for take time to read and post, and please dont take me wrong, but, IMO is the type of answer that I often see in other post/forums and IMO barely usefull, but anyway it put me on seaching again, and so, I realize that before I post this thread, I was lost in others posts that didnt have the exactly info, so, Thanks again for take time to answer.
Anyway, I am reading by now, but if may be useful for another noob, seems that Ktools may be the utility for the backup.
Best regards to all!
ok. ill try to help as much as i can besides asking you to search.
1st. you must get rooted using chainfires method. you find the thread under original android development.
2nd. once you have rooted and followed those instructions, you will end with an CWM application in the phone.
3rd. open CWM choose boot to recovery mode.
4th. from there choose backup and restore. then backup. once done your backup will be done and stored in your sd card.
if you are going to restore this phone due to some errors in flashing roms or problems on phone after flashing new stuff its fine.
but if you are talking about warranty claims, you cant do a restore. you need to make sure custom binary counter is already at 0 by using triangleaway from chainfire, then flash a stock firmware using odin , then send for warranty claim.
I got one question that no has been able to answer.
I'm using stock touchwiz launcher that came with the phone. If I backup with titanium, how do I restore my home screen layout?
I can restore all the apps but the home screen layout doesnt restore.
uf21 said:
I got one question that no has been able to answer.
I'm using stock touchwiz launcher that came with the phone. If I backup with titanium, how do I restore my home screen layout?
I can restore all the apps but the home screen layout doesnt restore.
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You cannot save the layout unfortunately. If you use other 3rd party launchers, they usually have the Back up option..
Surfy89 said:
You cannot save the layout unfortunately. If you use other 3rd party launchers, they usually have the Back up option..
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They say not to restore system data with titanium. Though I seen that touchwiz is backed up in system data. If I restore the touchwiz backup, will that restore my homescreen layout?
uf21 said:
They say not to restore system data with titanium. Though I seen that touchwiz is backed up in system data. If I restore the touchwiz backup, will that restore my homescreen layout?
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Possible but as advised TB restore system your risk .
CWM will not back up you original firmware in full as you now have Rooted phone backed up and you will need to reflash stock kernel .
Simpler to download your original firmware and flash via Odin .
Firmware found in the stock rom threads or via CHECKFUS >
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ad_ek said:
ok. ill try to help as much as i can besides asking you to search.
1st. you must get rooted using chainfires method. you find the thread under original android development.
2nd. once you have rooted and followed those instructions, you will end with an CWM application in the phone.
3rd. open CWM choose boot to recovery mode.
4th. from there choose backup and restore. then backup. once done your backup will be done and stored in your sd card.
if you are going to restore this phone due to some errors in flashing roms or problems on phone after flashing new stuff its fine.
but if you are talking about warranty claims, you cant do a restore. you need to make sure custom binary counter is already at 0 by using triangleaway from chainfire, then flash a stock firmware using odin , then send for warranty claim.
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Hi ad_ek!
Well, That's is for sure a polite and really usefull answer! I really appreciate that.
So, Thank You very much for Your help, and your instructions are very clear to my purposes, and by the way, I will search by my own for more info about the steps and resources that You mention, but in fact is a very concise HowTo to follow.
In special I would like to try to study in detail the info on You last comment, about setting binary counter to 0 with triangleaway since until today I didnt know before about triangleaway resource...so, since this detail seems the most important for my purposse, if I would like to have a lifeguard, that may allow recover my carrier stock rom, to a minimun level, that I may have a chance, that may, at least, allow to try a warranty claim if I may need it in the next 2 years...so, wonderfull your help.
Thanks also to the others that are posting about this thread and best regards to all.
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Hi ad_ek!
Well, That's is for sure a polite and really usefull answer! I really appreciate that.
So, Thank You very much for Your help, and your instructions are very clear to my purposes, and by the way, I will search by my own for more info about the steps and resources that You mention, but in fact is a very concise HowTo to follow.
In special I would like to try to study in detail the info on You last comment, about setting binary counter to 0 with triangleaway since until today I didnt know before about triangleaway resource...so, since this detail seems the most important for my purposse, if I would like to have a lifeguard, that may allow recover my carrier stock rom, to a minimun level, that I may have a chance, that may, at least, allow to try a warranty claim if I may need it in the next 2 years...so, wonderfull your help.
Thanks also to the others that are posting about this thread and best regards to all.
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no worries bro. what are forums for.
to learn more about triangle away. use this link -> TriangleAway v1.70
to learn more about rooting using chainfires method use this link -> [03.07.2012] CF-Root 6.4 - SuperSU+CWM5.5+CWMManager
i would really appreciate it, if you could hit the thanks button on the under left side of my post if i helped. have a good day mate
ad_ek said:
no worries bro. what are forums for.
to learn more about triangle away. use this link -> TriangleAway v1.70
to learn more about rooting using chainfires method use this link -> [03.07.2012] CF-Root 6.4 - SuperSU+CWM5.5+CWMManager
i would really appreciate it, if you could hit the thanks button on the under left side of my post if i helped. have a good day mate
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Excelent! Really good links!... so, Thanks again and for sure I hit button so for Your kind posts!
Best regards to all!
so this is my problem. Im having some issues with my phone and I want it to be changed. The issues really dont matter. In order for my provider to send me another phone they want me to do a master reset. This of course will delete all my apps and settings. As far as I know there is not a backup app that once you restore the phone and apps the restored phone will have all it's app data in place, the icons will be where you want them, etc, just like you would from when you clone or make an image from a Hard Drive from pc... Or is there and application that will do this? My only other option (i believe) is to root the phone to then use an app to do a real backup, then unroot the phone, root the new phone and do the restore. I also have to remove the root from the old phone but can that be done without increasing the counter? This is all a big hassle. I cant believe you can do a real backup/restore on a phone nowadays....
If there is any other way to do it I will appreciate the help. I will have to do this in the next days since my warranty expires in a bit over a month...
Thanks!
You are correct ....
Rooting of the device is needed, then the unroot.
It's the only method I'm aware of in getting a full nandroid backup ..g
Sarge has it right if you want to use backup apps.
If you don't want to root, you will need to flash TWRP or CWR to get the custom recovery and backup. Then make a backup to your external SD card. Use recovery to factory reset. Send the phone away after removing SD card and sim card. The backup is called a nandroid and it is basically an image of the phone.
On new phone flash same recovery then restore the backup. When you start the phone it will be as the broken one was.
You can remove the recovery from the broken phone, but I never heard of anyone getting problems from the warranty people for that.
Thanks both of you guys for the information. I am getting ready to do the root not only for the backup but there are quite a few apps that I want to use that require root that I am going to have to do it.
Now, I started reading tonight and the more I read the more I get confused. Is there an official guide to root the note (specifically AT&T running ICS 4.0.4 if there is a difference) in a way that I can unroot it in the future avoiding tripping any counters?
I have read so many different threads about rooting, they tend to be different so I am looking for the "current" accepted "method" to do this with decent steps if possible. Thanks much!
Whoa whoa, are we forgetting about ADB Backup?
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
Fernandq said:
What do you mean CPA?
BTW, I want to root the stock att ics, I am not interested into flashing another rom.
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Yeah I understand, you're wanting to do a full backup of your phone before you turn it in right? Or, at the very least, your apps and settings?
Welp, here you go: no root required.
A quick google search for "ADB backup" should get you the info you need as well.
Also looks like there's an XDA dev who came up with a much easier interface (as opposed to doing everything via command-line, which still isn't that difficult). Might be worth checking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36499906
Edit: Read your second post, and it looks like you're interested in rooting...I guess I was confused as to your intentions after reading you first post, which just sounded like you didn't want to lose your info after doing a factory reset. Regardless, it is HIGHLY advised before doing any sort of root-related activity to do an ADB backup. That way, if anything goes wrong in the rooting process itself, or if you later decide you want to go back to stock and/or all of your original apps and settings from before the root, you can literally be back with a clean slate within a matter of minutes.
Thanks very much for the link. I have swapped phones already but it will be helpful before I root. THANKS!
after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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after looking at adb I see it would not work for my initial needs as it only can be restored to the same device. I wanted something I could do a backup in the old one and restore that backup in the new one. Anyway, since I am past that anyway I am going to give it a try in theold device.... thanks!
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The full backup, yes (regarding being able to only restore to the same device) but you could literally extract whatever data you want from the ADB backup using WinRar, then manually push it to your new device.
Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Apparently ADB backup is broke, it does not respect the -noshared flag and the resulting file is corrupted requiring more processing on the file for it to work... dang it! Seems it has been fixed in JB...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=28303
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...stem-backup-ics-only-root-not-required-2.html
and there is more if you search the net.... Now, why will they not fix it is beyond me. Ok, so the command does not respect -noshared, that is easy to fix, I can just pull my sd card out but making an otherwise broken and unusable file giving the user the false sense of security and not fixing the bug is plain wrong... The only option will be to upgrade to JB but the official upgrade is not out and knowing at&t I wont be for a bit... I am not much into flashing leaked rom although that might change in the near future...
Thanks.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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Well crap man, that sucks - sorry! I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the link you posted as I'm pulling all nighters about 3 times a week during for the busy season of my profession (see my user name lol)...but you're saying that something actually went WRONG with the SDK on ICS firmware - and Google isn't fixing it?? That can't be right...right?
I can personally couch for this method, as I used it to make a full unrooted backup - of stock 4.0.4 ICS - back in October when I rooted my Note for the first time. And the first thing I did (per the rooting tutorial I was following) was verify the backup by doing a restore via ADB before I rooted - and everything worked fine. Like I said, sorry it's not working for you! Have you considered rooting, installing a custom recovery, doing a nandroid backup (and saving it someplace safe of course), then doing a full unroot back to stock + reset your flash counter? There are some great tutorials to walk you through all of that on the Galaxy Note Everything Thread in the General forum, in case that's an option.
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As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
gregsarg said:
As mentioned in my post....
Root, full backup, and unroot is the fastest method......g
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But what's the point in putting things simply like that when I can write an entire paragraph saying the same thing, but more confusing??
Hello Everyone,
I have finally rooted and unlocked my bootloader for my HTC One. Therefore, I am planning to either add a ROM or flash a new kernel onto my device. Prior to going into recovery mode and doing this, must a backup all of my apps and data? If so, what backup application do you use?
Thanks for all your help.
FlipCup said:
Hello Everyone,
I have finally rooted and unlocked my bootloader for my HTC One. Therefore, I am planning to either add a ROM or flash a new kernel onto my device. Prior to going into recovery mode and doing this, must a backup all of my apps and data? If so, what backup application do you use?
Thanks for all your help.
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Questions belong in Q and A! But use titanium back up always works for me.
MAKE A NANDROID and then flash till your heart's content
Use titanium for your app backups. Never restore system data. When you get into recovery a nandroid is a good idea in case your new rom derps you can restore yur phone to the exact condition with apps that it was in before you entered recovery.
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