Question: Confirming Unlock/Root/Custom Recovery/Kernal

Question: Confirming Unlock/Root/Custom Recovery/Kernal - HTC Rezound

Hi, I'm very new to this modding community. I have unlocked the bootloader, installed Amon Ra recovery. Installed Cleanrom and Ziggy's kernal and rooted through Amon Ra.
Now is there way to make sure I have done all this correctly. In other words, how can I confirm I have done everything properly. Thanks guys.

nexu1 said:
Hi, I'm very new to this modding community. I have unlocked the bootloader, installed Amon Ra recovery. Installed Cleanrom and Ziggy's kernal and rooted through Amon Ra.
Now is there way to make sure I have done all this correctly. In other words, how can I confirm I have done everything properly. Thanks guys.
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Did you root right after you unlocked? Otherwise you couldn't really install all of those things.
As for checking for root, you need to install an app that requires root access like Titanium Backup Pro. You should also have an app in your app drawer called SuperUser. This will allow your root apps to work. If you try to open a root app, SuperUser should come up and ask for permission to run as root.
In order to check for proper installation of the ROM, you need to see what all is included in that ROM to make sure you have it on your phone. I don't know what that one has, so I couldn't tell you. Just look at the main post.
For the kernel, install something like SetCpu or Antutu CPU Master to make sure you can overclock to 1.83gHz. If you can do that, you have the kernel installed correctly.
If AmonRa is installed, you should be able to boot into recovery. When you are there, you should have a menu on a black screen with a bunch of different options. Make sure you make a Nand backup of your phone before you make any major changes to anything.
Let me know if this helps.

Thanks, that's very helpful. Looks like I have root and I think the Cleanrom installed properly as the bloat is gone and some of the tweaks are present.
I installed SetCPU and the speed is 1.5ghz, which means I didn't install Ziggy's kernal properly.
I used this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419587
Downloaded the Autokernalinstaller. Ran Run buildFlashable.bat. Then I placed the created zip file on the sd card. Went into recovery and installed the zip. Backed into bootloader and clicked yes.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.

nexu1 said:
Thanks, that's very helpful. Looks like I have root and I think the Cleanrom installed properly as the bloat is gone and some of the tweaks are present.
I installed SetCPU and the speed is 1.5ghz, which means I didn't install Ziggy's kernal properly.
I used this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419587
Downloaded the Autokernalinstaller. Ran Run buildFlashable.bat. Then I placed the created zip file on the sd card. Went into recovery and installed the zip. Backed into bootloader and clicked yes.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
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Hmm, I did it the old way. The only thing I would ask is if you installed the Kernel after you flashed the rom? Whenever you flash a new rom, you'll need to make sure you reflash the new kernel. Also make sure that you have only one PH98IMG.img (ziggy's) on your ext sdcard. I would try flashing it again to make sure it goes this time.

Tried it again using the manual method and it worked. Thanks!
Any other tips for the future? Should I keep an eye out for updated version of my installed rom? Will we get CM9 or do we need s-off for that? Are there any other benefits s-off offers that we dont have with unlocked bootloader?
THanks you rock!

nexu1 said:
Tried it again using the manual method and it worked. Thanks!
Any other tips for the future? Should I keep an eye out for updated version of my installed rom? Will we get CM9 or do we need s-off for that? Are there any other benefits s-off offers that we dont have with unlocked bootloader?
THanks you rock!
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S-Off just makes things muuuuuuch easier for us. We can still do pretty much anything that we want to do with S-On, it's just a big pain. From my understanding, we need S-Off in order to flash ROMs with custom kernels already built in. Otherwise we have to do it this way where we need to flash the kernel after the ROM. I'm new to the entire S-Off thing since I've used Moto phones before this.
Yes, check for updated versions of your ROM. Also make sure you do Nand backups any time you make changes. Can't stress that enough. It will save your life haha. You can take them off your sdcard whenever you make new ones and just leave the newest one on your phone. I keep a folder on my comp with old nandroid backups. I do believe that they are working on getting CM7 or 9 for the Rez. Just going to take time to port everything over, I believe.
Glad I could help Good luck!

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Issues with an Eris at 1.5, what to do?

A friend of mine had her Eris metroflashed to MetroPCS. Calls and SMS work, but she wants me to provision the rest of it to work like i did with my own Eris on metro. I tried it to find out the Eris one click root app is not on the market anymore however i had the APK, erisone.apk. I loaded it to her SD card and downloaded Astro File Manager and attempted to install, which it proceeded to tell me it couldnt be installed on that phone. All i need is RA-Eris recovery as i will be loading a custom ROM. Is there an easy way to change the recovery on it so i can do this? I was thinking i just needed to update to 2.1 OTA (can someone provide the link? the old link from google doesnt work anymore) then the Erisone.apk will work (this apk loads custom recovery as well as a root very easily). I need to load a custom ROM before i can begin with the provisioning, what do you guys think i should do?

Does this work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228?
Or see this list of options that scary alien provided http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10013596#post10013596.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Does this work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742228?
Or see this list of options that scary alien provided http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10013596#post10013596.
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The top one is one i tried. The bottom link there mainly concerns rooting. Im trying to install a custom rom thats already rooted so i don't care much for rooting but i guess its necessary to install a new recovery image right? All i want to do is install ra-eris recovery so i can load a custom rom. The one click method you linked automatically installs a new recovery image and thats what im really after. I just don't think that one you linked is compatible with 1.5

Helgaiden said:
The top one is one i tried. The bottom link there mainly concerns rooting. Im trying to install a custom rom thats already rooted so i don't care much for rooting but i guess its necessary to install a new recovery image right? All i want to do is install ra-eris recovery so i can load a custom rom. The one click method you linked automatically installs a new recovery image and thats what im really after. I just don't think that one you linked is compatible with 1.5
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You have to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to install a custom ROM.
Editing...ignore what I had posted in this space before.
The second link (starts with "Failing that...") says it works with 1.5.

You have to be rooted to have a custom recovery. This i know...but can you have a custom recovery without being rooted? I dont care about getting this phone rooted, i just want a custom recovery on it.

Helgaiden said:
You have to be rooted to have a custom recovery. This i know...but can you have a custom recovery without being rooted? I dont care about getting this phone rooted, i just want a custom recovery on it.
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You HAVE to be rooted to change: recovery, kernel, hboot, ROM, and radio. The only exceptions are official updates, whether they be OTA or running a RUU update from Windows with the phone connected.
Root access effectively means being able to change things you're not normally allowed to change.
If you want a custom recovery on your phone, you're going to have to root it. To be technically fully rooted, you would probably have to change your hboot (referred to as S=OFF), too, but it doesn't sound like you need that part. This may not be the answer that you want, but it is what it is.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You HAVE to be rooted to change: recovery, kernel, hboot, ROM, and radio. The only exceptions are official updates, whether they be OTA or running a RUU update from Windows with the phone connected.
Root access effectively means being able to change things you're not normally allowed to change.
If you want a custom recovery on your phone, you're going to have to root it. To be technically fully rooted, you would probably have to change your hboot (referred to as S=OFF), too, but it doesn't sound like you need that part. This may not be the answer that you want, but it is what it is.
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Okay, i will try one of those other root methods then. Do any of them install a custom recovery as part of the process like the universal one click root does?

Helgaiden said:
Okay, i will try one of those other root methods then. Do any of them install a custom recovery as part of the process like the universal one click root does?
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I'm sure they all probably do, but I'm sure they say definitively in their threads, too. Everyone who roots wants to install a custom recovery so that they can flash rooted ROMs. Most everyone, anyway. Only those who just want the stock ROM but rooted wouldn't care about the recovery, but those are a minority.

Alright cool. Im gonna do the last method from Scary Allen's post. Just a question though..
i hook up the phone to the PC then click install_root.bat. That should do what i want, however in what mode should the phone be in when i have it plugged in? Powered on like normal, in the stock hboot/recovery mode...??

Helgaiden said:
Alright cool. Im gonna do the last method from Scary Allen's post. Just a question though..
i hook up the phone to the PC then click install_root.bat. That should do what i want, however in what mode should the phone be in when i have it plugged in? Powered on like normal, in the stock hboot/recovery mode...??
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You should keep questions about various methods of doing things in the original thread. If it doesn't say in the thread about what mode it should be in, then you'll have to ask GrdLock. If it doesn't specify then maybe it doesn't matter what mode it's in. The only thing it specifies is:
MAKE SURE YOUR SDCARD IS NOT MOUNTED TO YOUR COMPUTER OR THIS WON'T WORK!!!!
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You should keep questions about various methods of doing things in the original thread. If it doesn't say in the thread about what mode it should be in, then you'll have to ask GrdLock. If it doesn't specify then maybe it doesn't matter what mode it's in. The only thing it specifies is:
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yeah i got that much out of it. Okay, thanks for your help.

The jcase "One Click" .apk does not work on 1.5, as you discovered.
Note that the root exploit method that One Click employs does work on 1.5 - but unfortunately the One Click app itself only runs on 2.1.
The Universal Eris Root for Dummies! method will work on both 1.5 and 2.1; it uses the same (wag3slav3) rooting exploit, but does not require the 2.1 OS to be running in order to work correctly. All it does to your phone is to install the Amon_RA custom recovery - exactly what you are looking for.
This method is the same one referenced by scary alien in his post mentioned above - the second URL in his post.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again: when you say "rooted", it means different things to different people. The most general definition is that you have "installed something on your phone which gives you privileges to alter some or all of the phone software which the device manufacturer did not intend".
So - you can have an engineering bootloader on a phone, but a completely stock OS... and that would be a "rooted" phone. Same deal for a set of root tools installed in the OS, but a S-ON bootloader and a stock recovery partition. Or a stock bootloader, a stock OS, but a custom recovery - again, that is also a "rooted" phone. In all three cases, you now have the means to alter whatever you want on the phone. That's all that "rooted" really means; it doesn't necessarily mean that the OS has been kanged up.
bftb0

ahh confirmation it doesnt work on 1.5, nice haha. Well thanks. Ill look into the Dummies root method but right now im leaning toward's GRDLOCK's method. At least i know i have good valid options though, thanks!

[S-OFF Only!!!] Install OTA Update and Maintain Root Access

UPDATE: The latest update still is safe. I just installed it and I am still s-off.
UPDATE: The update to Jellybean does not write the secure flag and this method is safe to apply the OTA update with this method and still maintain root access afterwards.
First and foremost, a couple disclaimers.
FIRST, YOU MUST BE S-OFF FOR THIS TO WORK. PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU ARE NOT ALREADY S-OFF.
SECOND, FOR THE OTA UPDATE 1.22.651.3 YOU WILL FOR SURE RETAIN S-OFF. ALTHOUGH HIGHLY UNLIKELY, HTC COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE YOU S-ON IN FUTURE OTA UPDATES. SEE HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION.
To obtain s-off please see this thread: http://unlimited.io/jewel.htm
Once you are s-off you can install the OTA update no problem and still retain root. I understand that there are rooted ROMs that come out within a day or whatever, I find this method just easier and less annoying that waiting for a rooted stock ROM to come out. I don't really theme, mod, or do crazy things with my phone but still want root access. So, I decided since I was s-off, I would give this method a whirl. I am happy to report that I am s-off, with TWRP, fully rooted, and with installing the OTA update. I had a little hiccup but was able to solve that.
So, here is the process. This is kind of a hodge podge of different threads, ideas, devices, and versions of android so if I didn't give you credit, please let me know and I will put you in this thread.
Process for installing a stock recovery. I have already created some stock recovery files so see at the bottom of this post for the zip file that includes the stock recovery. If you wish to use these files, just start with step #10.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO JUST DOWNLOAD THE STOCK RECOVERY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST, SKIP TO STEP #10.
Creating Stock Recovery File Manually
1. Install a stock recovery if you don't already have one.
2. To do so, get the RUU for the version you are running.
3. Run the RUU (don't connect to your phone at all)
4. Navigate to your temp directory on your computer (on windows 7 it is C:\Users\your_user_name\AppData\Local\Temp)
5. Find a folder that looks like it is in the following format "{XXXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXXXXX}" It might help to sort by date modified. The folder should have the current date
6. Inside the folder might be a couple other folders. Navigate through the folder to find a zip that says "firmware" or "rom" (mine said rom)
7. Extract the content to a folder in the same directory called rom
8. Navigate into the rom folder and find two files android-info.txt and recovery_signed.img. Copy those to a directory of your choice.
9. Send those files to a zip folder and name the file "PJ75IMG.zip" without the quotes. Make sure zip is only listed once. If you have file extensions hidden in windows yours will only say "PJ75IMG".
Installing the stock recovery, OTA, and regaining root
10. Place the stock recovery file on the root of your sd card
11. On your phone, head into settings and power and make sure the fastboot option is unchecked
12. Power down phone
13. Once phone is completely shut down, hold the volume down button and press the power on button while keeping the volume down button pressed.
14. It will boot into your hboot (verify it says s-off at the top or don't proceed) and find the file you placed on your sd card and ask you if you want to update. click volume up for yes. Reboot once finished. After your phone boots up, navigate to the root of your sdcard and delete PJ75IMG.zip
15. Go to settings>check for updates and check to see if there is an update. Download the update. Once it verifies, click install now. It should install just fine.
16. Once you are up and running, download one of the dirty racun hboots. I used hboot 2.09 img found here. Follow the instructions on the unlimited.io website how to flash the hboot by using fastboot (flashing the zip doesn't seem to be working.
update. click volume up for yes. Reboot once finished. After your phone boots up, navigate to the root of your sdcard and delete PJ75IMG.zip
17. Make sure usb debugging is checked under settings>developer options
18. Go download a su zip file. I used this one here and place it on the root of your sd card.
19. Go grab a custom recovery flashable zip (could not find the latest twrp zip) or img (I used TWRP found here. Take the image and place it in your platform tools folder for ADB.
20. Plug in phone while powered on and type in adb devices to make sure you are connected.
21. If you see a device type in
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
22. Your device will boot into your bootloader and you will see fastboot usb (make sure usb debugging was checked if you don't see that).
23. Then type fastboot flash recovery [filename] of the recovery img you downloaded. Once flashed, toggle with the volume up buttons to bootloader and then select recovery. This should boot you into TWRP
24. Once in recovery, install the su zip you downloaded in step 18.
25. Reboot and Enjoy!!!!
You are now rooted with the most current OTA update and all the goodies (radios, PRI, etc.)
This process should hopefully hold true for any future OTA updates if you are S-OFF. The only thing you will have to find is the current RUU to create the stock recovery. If this helped, feel free to thank! Go XDA!

There already are rooted stock roms out.
Why even risk it? It takes less than a day
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2

Rxpert said:
There already are rooted stock roms out.
Why even risk it? It takes less than a day
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
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I don't know. So you don't have to wait at all? Or for the people that aren't accustomed to flashing ROMs or don't care to. I prefer this method for whatever reason and it seems just easier. Personal preference though. The beauty of android and their strong developer network is that it gives the users choices. I can take the OTA update as soon as it comes out and don't have to worry about waiting for anything. Just another method I guess.

TLR there are already rooted stock roms in one of the dev forums. Flash it and flash the update firmware via bootloader and you're done.
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
TLR there are already rooted stock roms in one of the dev forums. Flash it and flash the update firmware via bootloader and you're done.
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The update firmware is the part that hangs me up. I believe when it was back in the original EVO days that some people were having problems updating their PRI version and it screwed up some things with wimax. That is when I decided I would just accept the OTA to get everything they included in the update and then gain root access through this method.
Again, to each their own. Please try not to clutter up the thread with off topic items. Thanks.

Because all of the ROM flash threads state you have to do a factory reset. Even with Titanium, I don't have the time to reset everything back up the way I want it... including all the folders I've created, etc. If you could flash a ROM and maintain all your data intact, I might consider it. Perhaps there's something I'm unaware of.
Rxpert said:
There already are rooted stock roms out.
Why even risk it? It takes less than a day
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im coming from the rezound, i just want the updated firmware! on my rez being s-off i could run ANY firmware ICS, or GB and then go back to whatever rom i was running. im wondering if im s-off, i should b able to do the same thing right.

greyopaque said:
Because all of the ROM flash threads state you have to do a factory reset. Even with Titanium, I don't have the time to reset everything back up the way I want it... including all the folders I've created, etc. If you could flash a ROM and maintain all your data intact, I might consider it. Perhaps there's something I'm unaware of.
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The devs state that so that they don't have to spend their valuable time troubleshooting because you didn't flash right. Its always best to do a full wipe, but not always required when flashing an updated version of the same ROM.
1) Nandroid.
2)Wipe Dalvik cache & cache
3) Flash
You retain all data.
If you have issues, then you nand restore and do a full wipe before bugging the devs

bpdamas said:
Once you are s-off you can install the OTA update no problem and still retain root. I understand that there are rooted ROMs that come out within a day or whatever, I find this method just easier and less annoying that waiting for a rooted stock ROM to come out.
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Lmao! You find that whole process "easier" than waiting for a day? I think it might take the better part of a day to do all that.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium

Thanks for taking the time to do a write-up OP!

Good tutorial. I actually waited but this definitely a decent tutorial. Don't listen to anyone saying that it is dumb not to wait. Why do they care what you do with your device?
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Actually, TWRP has a PJ75IMG.zip on their site that can be flashed the same way as the HBOOT. And then, you can flash Superuser from TWRP.
I did everything from my SD card. And, in response to the person saying it would take the better part of the day... the whole thing took me barely 10 minutes, and I have a completely updated phone, all the firmware, radios, etc. And all my data and settings are intact. I think that for someone like me that likes everything stock, but rooted (for WiFi Tether and Adblock), this is the best way to go.

greyopaque said:
Because all of the ROM flash threads state you have to do a factory reset. Even with Titanium, I don't have the time to reset everything back up the way I want it... including all the folders I've created, etc. If you could flash a ROM and maintain all your data intact, I might consider it. Perhaps there's something I'm unaware of.
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Agreed.
EPayne123 said:
Good tutorial. I actually waited but this definitely a decent tutorial. Don't listen to anyone saying that it is dumb not to wait. Why do they care what you do with your device?
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Definitely agreed.
greyopaque said:
Actually, TWRP has a PJ75IMG.zip on their site that can be flashed the same way as the HBOOT. And then, you can flash Superuser from TWRP.
I did everything from my SD card. And, in response to the person saying it would take the better part of the day... the whole thing took me barely 10 minutes, and I have a completely updated phone, all the firmware, radios, etc. And all my data and settings are intact. I think that for someone like me that likes everything stock, but rooted (for WiFi Tether and Adblock), this is the best way to go.
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I know. This is exactly why I root and I can't believe there are so many people against this method. It seems very simple to me and I can have a stock recovery waiting to flash as soon as an OTA update comes out. Oh well.

Thanks for this info. I think I'm like you and not only like the stock experience and its benefits but also prefer diy when possible.
Of course I never seem to stay stock like you but I like doing the steps my self. To each their own is the beauty of android.
Go android!
Sent from my EVO

i just noticed my internal was wiped for some odd reason? im attempting to run the previous ruu, to get my notification sounds and everything back.

Rxpert said:
There already are rooted stock roms out.
Why even risk it? It takes less than a day
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One advantage to me would be you're getting the official ROM/update, and you don't have to worry about a malicious dev slipping in some malware.

zounduser said:
i just noticed my internal was wiped for some odd reason? im attempting to run the previous ruu, to get my notification sounds and everything back.
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Very curious on this. Nothing in this method should affect this.

Robbie_G said:
One advantage to me would be you're getting the official ROM/update, and you don't have to worry about a malicious dev slipping in some malware.
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..... I'm blown away by this.
Really?
Why do you even have S-off then? That required you down download specific drivers, and run a program as an administrator on your computer. If you're concerned about a rogue dev they would've royally screwed you there.
/Tin Hat

Rxpert said:
..... I'm blown away by this.
Really?
Why do you even have S-off then? That required you down download specific drivers, and run a program as an administrator on your computer. If you're concerned about a rogue dev they would've royally screwed you there.
/Tin Hat
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That's fair, rooting and s-off could also inject malicious code. But so can ROM makers.
I think there's a difference between trying to be safe and being paranoid. If there is a way for someone to make money off of you/steal your identity, eventually they will try. I'm not suspicious of any of the current devs, but it's something we should maybe be more aware of. Look at all the warez Windows out there with malware built in to steal your information.

EPayne123 said:
Good tutorial. I actually waited but this definitely a decent tutorial. Don't listen to anyone saying that it is dumb not to wait. Why do they care what you do with your device?
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Totally agree. Its a good thing to learn in my opinion. I broke my Evo 4G, fixed it then rerooted it. Now on the 4G LTE got it rooted with custom rom. Love learning new things plus some of the good things that come with rooting and custom roms are worth it for me.

[Q] AT&T apps

I have rooted my phone and uninstalled all the AT&T apps but when i reboot my phone they all come back, please help

tckdvr said:
I have rooted my phone and uninstalled all the AT&T apps but when i reboot my phone they all come back, please help
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Have you installed JMZ's kernel. Without this any changes to /system won't stick after reboot.
MiniBlu

MiniBlu said:
Have you installed JMZ's kernel. Without this any changes to /system won't stick after reboot.
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No I didn't, but I will try that thank you.
that worked thank you

tckdvr said:
No I didn't, but I will try that thank you.
that worked thank you
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I really wished I had seen THIS thread 2 days ago....

question
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Have you installed JMZ's kernel. Without this any changes to /system won't stick after reboot.
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How do you install JMZ's kernal to the htc desire 610

I use clear d's root tool the first day he released it and it took about 3 times to get it to work. Now I wonder if the kernel installed???
I have the jz rar file still unpacked on my sd card...only reason I asked is because the op's question rung a bell. I uninstalled every piece of bloatware I could and my free space is curiously low.
Is there a way to verify it got installed? If not can I unpack the rar file on my phone or do I have to use the root tool again?

KLit75 said:
I use clear d's root tool the first day he released it and it took about 3 times to get it to work. Now I wonder if the kernel installed???
I have the jz rar file still unpacked on my sd card...only reason I asked is because the op's question rung a bell. I uninstalled every piece of bloatware I could and my free space is curiously low.
Is there a way to verify it got installed? If not can I unpack the rar file on my phone or do I have to use the root tool again?
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Look in settings, about, software information, more. Kernel version should say something like [email protected]*********#1 SMP PREEMPT. I can't tell you the exact name as I'm running my own modified version of his kernel for testing. If your are not running JMZ kernel it will be called something quite different.
MiniBlu

Thanks a lot for this. No. I do not have jmz's kernel!
I'm kind of confused. Supersu and twrp are present. I've used several apps that require root. So what exactly is going on?
The night I rooted (supposedly rooted) I'm pretty certain I asked if there was anyway to tell and I don't think I was informed about checking the kernel. That would've been easy. There's a chance it was updated I guess. AT&T was trying to push an update. I kept declining it but noticed it stopped asking. On other devices that usually means it was installed.
Any suggestions? Well I guess run the newer root tool then verify I have the kernel.
Thanks for the info, mini blu.

KLit75 said:
Thanks a lot for this. No. I do not have jmz's kernel!
I'm kind of confused. Supersu and twrp are present. I've used several apps that require root. So what exactly is going on?
The night I rooted (supposedly rooted) I'm pretty certain I asked if there was anyway to tell and I don't think I was informed about checking the kernel. That would've been easy. There's a chance it was updated I guess. AT&T was trying to push an update. I kept declining it but noticed it stopped asking. On other devices that usually means it was installed.
Any suggestions? Well I guess run the newer root tool then verify I have the kernel.
Thanks for the info, mini blu.
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If yoy have root and can reboot to recovery thenyYou don't need to re-run the root tool. Just download JMZ kernel and flash it from TWRP.
MiniBlu

Thanks again. Can you clear up a couple of things for me?
1. If I have root then what exactly does the kernel do? I used to think it was essential.
2. When you say flash...all I need to do is boot into the boot loader screen, from there boot recovery, then when in twrp press install & select the kernel?
Do I need to connect to my pc?
Sorry. It's just for the past couple of months I thought I was all set but now there is clearly more to learn.

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Thanks again. Can you clear up a couple of things for me?
1. If I have root then what exactly does the kernel do? I used to think it was essential.
2. When you say flash...all I need to do is boot into the boot loader screen, from there boot recovery, then when in twrp press install & select the kernel?
Do I need to connect to my pc?
Sorry. It's just for the past couple of months I thought I was all set but now there is clearly more to learn.
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HI Klit75, in answer to above
1. Root(supersu) gives you access and control over which apps can run with root permissions, however the stock kernel has the /system partition write protected so any changes you or apps you install make to that partition are lost on reboot. JMZ kernel has this right protection removed which allows system customization's to remain after rebooting.
2. Everything you said here is right. No PC conecction required. Only thing is, it is sometimes tricky to get it to boot into boot loader so I have "android terminal emulator" installed from play store and run it then type
su
reboot recovery
this will reboot you straight to recovery. The above can also be done by connecting to the phone by adb and typing
adb reboot recovery
MiniBlu
ps before flashing the JMZ kernel I strongly recommend taking a TWRP backup (boot and system partitions will be enough) as JMZ kernel over-rights some modules on the system partition and it is always good to be able to go back if you have problems. Also after flashing the kernel select wipe dalvic and cache to avoid possible wifi issues.

Well I tried it. Got an error installing zip then I cleared dalvk cache and it went to "upgrading android upgrading so that seemed encouraging because that's what the root tool said was supposed to happen. But after reboot I still had the old kernel.
Thinking either the zip file I have doesn't work or I should have clicked the box to verify its signature. Gonna try again. Thanks a lot. Your info is extremely helpful.
UPDATE--Well I owe you a big thanks but not because it worked but for your advice to backup first.
As suspected, it didn't flash the first time because I clicked "verify signature" So this time it installed. I wiped dalvik and rebooted. I connected to WiFi and my first move was to come here & thank you. That's when my phone died.
It froze then turned off. I couldn't get it to turn on. I was able to get back to recovery with my pc and thankfully took your advice and restored from backup.
I'm obviously not an expert but I've jb ios devices, done softmods and I have rooted other android devices. This is the first time I've had trouble. 3 different root tools aren't getting the job done completely. Now my pc says "install unsuccessful"when it tries to get new HTC drivers. Is this due to an unlocked boot loader?
I was actually thinking this time it would work. Was there an update to the jmz kernel? Or did my phone possibly get an update the conflicts with the kernel? I'm not sure where I go from here
But I do appreciate your time. Now it makes sense why bloatware keeps returning and I still get notices of updates sometimes.

After regaining my composure...I got it working. There was a problem with Supersu binaries. I reinstalled it. Then reflashed jmz kernel. After wiping dalvik I rebooted. It's been working fine for an hour now.
I do have what I believe is the engineering image. The initial screen says it's just for developers but unless there's something nefarious there then I can live with it. Now I'd like to finally unload some of this bloatware. If anyone has any tips on what's safe to uninstall please share. Thanks.

installing system update with a rooted M9

Hello everyone!
I've been very happy with my rooted M9 for the last few months but now a system update message on my screen and I'm trying to figure out what to do about. I seem to recall when I rooted my phone that there could be complications if I install a system update on a rooted phone (like making a Nandroid Backup) but I'm finding scarce information on the topic. Does anyone here have some advice about this?

Rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3083799
Firmware...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3073355

Follow the second link above.
You will need to restore the factory system.img using TWRP (exFAT or NTFS for external USB as file is > 4GB).
This puts the modified system (root) back to stock so the update will run successfully.
Flash the original recovery for you system version too.
Then you can accept the OTA and then root the phone again.

Thanks for the responses! I'm still uncertain about a few things so tell me if I have this right.
First I need to restore the factory image. Is that a guy named OJM is talking about on this thread? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-one-m9/general/rooting-guide-t3073004)
To restore your clean system backup to accept OTAs, you must use fastboot. If you are S-ON, you must be in download mode.
-copy your clean system.emmc.win to your adb/fastboot folder on your pc
-boot into download mode
-use cmd fastboot flash system system.emmc.win
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In that case, what is a system.emmc.win?
Then I flash the original recovery...what are you refering to when you say "original recovery"?
After that my phone should be locked again and I can go to that second link, download the latest firmware and flash it. And then I can unlock and root my phone again.
Edit: So it looks like someone has made a guide on how to get the OTA updates (if you use the right words in your search). It looks no one done anything with it since May so maybe it still works? http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/best-unlocking-bootloader-rooting-guide-t3087354

I would just run the official RUU, it's a one shot process will take care of everything including the radios. Much easier than messing around, just make sure you are S-OFF before you do it. When it's done just flash the latest TWRP and install your rom you will be done.

Sim-X said:
I would just run the official RUU, it's a one shot process will take care of everything including the radios. Much easier than messing around, just make sure you are S-OFF before you do it. When it's done just flash the latest TWRP and install your rom you will be done.
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That was what I ended up doing. Had few bumps on the way but I managed to get everything working. Thanks for the help everyone!

RUU
Sim-X said:
I would just run the official RUU, it's a one shot process will take care of everything including the radios. Much easier than messing around, just make sure you are S-OFF before you do it. When it's done just flash the latest TWRP and install your rom you will be done.
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hi sim I have a question the only thing I got to make sure is that the phone is S-OFF and nothing will happen because I read that also the bootlooder had to be lock again so I'm not sure

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