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Hi All, I'm one of the few who faced the problem where one side of the screen is slightly lifted on the edge. It doesn't cause any functional problems, but the springy feel is annoying. It's probably the adhesive on the left acting up and not sticking well. Press the screen down, and it will uplift within minutes. Tried the hot air method to melt the glue slightly, but no use.
So I probably want to replace the adhesive, and began looking for teardown guides.
None, however, really shows if the Gorilla glass can be pried off from the top ,leaving the rear un-dismantled. The flex cable should goes to the mainboard at the back, but I don't need to disconnect that for this purpose. I'm also not sure if I should pry the top or bottom.
If anyone has done it before, kindly share your experience here.
Thanks
Full replacement seems like the best idea.
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Full replacement seems like the best idea.
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oh. Why so? Seems like an overkill proposal...
I have the same exact dilemma. I see this is an old post, but maybe someone else can chime in. I really don't want to dismantle an otherwise working phone just to reapply adhesive. I like the phone but this seems like a really poor design.
Anyway, if anyone knows of a way I can reapply the adhesive without total dis-assembly I'd love to hear it!
Mr. Shickadance said:
I have the same exact dilemma. I see this is an old post, but maybe someone else can chime in. I really don't want to dismantle an otherwise working phone just to reapply adhesive. I like the phone but this seems like a really poor design.
Anyway, if anyone knows of a way I can reapply the adhesive without total dis-assembly I'd love to hear it!
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sorry you cant, im replacing the digitizer for mine and u cant take off the glass without ripping off the flex cable for the digitizer.
i suppose u can heat up the adhesive and carefully open it alittle bit and put some glue on that corner. i say glue because you probably wont have room to put double sided tape and remove the second backing without tearing the flex cable for the digitizer.
So i dropped my phone and looks like i need a new digitizer. I have tear down the phone and the last thing i need to do is remove the digitizer but i have no idea on how to do it. Does anyone have any tips or links that show you how to remove it? I've seen this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8u5Wa3Odak but it doesn't show how to remove the digitizer. Any help would be really appreciated
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So i dropped my phone and looks like i need a new digitizer. I have tear down the phone and the last thing i need to do is remove the digitizer but i have no idea on how to do it. Does anyone have any tips or links that show you how to remove it? I've seen this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8u5Wa3Odak but it doesn't show how to remove the digitizer. Any help would be really appreciated
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At the end it shows you to heat up the digitizer to losen the adhesive that is holding it in place all around the edge. After that, slowly pry around. Do it really slowly though and let it work itself off, and don't use a sharp object because it will damage the sensitivity of the digitizer. Really patience is key. Don't rush it like I tried to the first time also be careful of the lcd underneath.
Just to reiterate what was already said, pry very gently, don't stick whatever pry tool you are using too far into the device, the LCD below will crack so easily. I did it when I did mine. Have patience, take a lot of time slowly working it off the adhesive little bit by little bit. There isn't any magic trick to this, it takes a lot of time and practice.
I took apart my Incredible 4G to replace the screen and this small rubber piece fell out. I looked the phone up and down and watched carefully at all the guides, but still can't figure out where it goes. Does anyone here know?
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jin211 said:
I took apart my Incredible 4G to replace the screen and this small rubber piece fell out. I looked the phone up and down and watched carefully at all the guides, but still can't figure out where it goes. Does anyone here know?
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This is a rubber piece correct?
It looks like the housing around the light source for the capacitive buttons, either "Back" or "Recent App" button. You will have to lift the board up at the bottom of your phone to see them. This piece holds the clear plastic that directs light to those buttons.
Good Luck getting it back together again.
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This is a rubber piece correct?
It looks like the housing around the light source for the capacitive buttons, either "Back" or "Recent App" button. You will have to lift the board up at the bottom of your phone to see them. This piece holds the clear plastic that directs light to those buttons.
Good Luck getting it back together again.
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Yes it's a rubber piece with small step-like grooves like a staircase. I looked again where you were talking about, the light guides, and there already seems to be two rubber pieces around the Back and Recent Apps buttons so I don't think that's quite it. Should there be a piece around the Home button? Because it doesn't seem to fit there.
Any other suggestions? I'm sure it will work fine without it, but it's really annoying that this piece seemingly popped out of nowhere.
Okay, nvm that was the right piece for the light guides. I actually have two of these phones sitting around with broken screen while I wait for the replacement parts to come. I thought that the piece had fallen out of the second phone I was working on, but I checked the first one again and turns out it was missing that piece. How it ended up falling out when I was taking apart the second, I have no idea lol. Guess I need a bigger workspace.
Thanks DaveDoc!
No problem
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UPDATE: So, the digitizer I bought developed a massive dead zone. I already contacted the amazon store I bought it from, they're replacing it for me. Why does this matter? Because now I get to update this post with pictures/video! So, yeah, I guess this guide should get a lot more helpful soon.
Update 2: Ok, so, I don't even know how to express my anger and frustration. This girl at work shoved my phone out of my hands and into the leg of a table, completely destroying my phone. So, yeah, sorry, I guess I won't be updating with pictures/video, because the amazon store isn't going to take the screen back now.
Yo, guys. If anyone noticed that I was gone, I'm flattered, since I don't post a lot. But yeah, I havent had my Optimus G in about a month, so I havent been on this forum. In that time, I went through my Second Motorola Atrix HD, a broken Galaxy S3, and even lived through Google Voice on my computer. It's an extremely long story, and kind of ridiculous, so I'll spare the details.
HOWEVER, I did finally just buy a replacement Digitizer and LCD screen, and successfully installed it, and I want to share tips for anyone doing it themselves.
When removing the back, after you've removed torx screws, start prying the back off from in between where the Sim card and MicroSD go. Where the back of the phone and the chassis of the phone are separate is much more obvious in that cavity, PLUS dents/dings from jamming a screwdriver in there wont be noticeable when you put the bay cover back on.
Don't force anything off. Make sure you've removed every screw, unclipped every clip, and removed ribbons from everything you're trying to take off.
Removing the battery is tricky. Be careful not to deform it too much, cause that's dangerous. But there are 2 strips of double sided tape running horizontally beneath the battery. Try to get something between the top one and the battery, then carefully pull the battery off the second strip with your hands. sticking too much stuff beneath it to pry it up is going to cause some trouble, so lifting it with your fingers might be better.
Remove the motherboard. detatch all the ribbons, antennae, everything, then pull up from the left, then slide left and out. This is how I got it out with the least resistance, but there is no science to it. If you've gotten this far, you can figure out how to pull it out without breaking it in half.
Components that need to be removed before LCD+Digitizer removal:
Motherboard
Battery
Camera
Just put them off to the side, you don't want them damaged during the next part.
WARNING! If you plan on saving your LCD screen, DO NOT DO THIS. The high heat will cook your screen and make it unusable. Only do this to remove a broken or unsavable Digitizer+LCD.
Alright, now pull out the heat gun. Alternatively, you can do what I did, and use a hair dryer. Not even kidding, this will work fine, and will be hilarious when you tell your friends about it.
On a high heat, start heating the screen. If you're using a heat gun, just do your thing, you know how it works. Hair dryer folks, keep the dryer very low to the phone, low enough to feel the dryer being pushed up by the air, holding it just high enough so it sort of hovers. (You'll know what I mean when you try it. If you don't, just keep it about half an inch off the phone.) Move the dryer along the edges of the screen, all the way around, thats where the glue is. It should heat up pretty fast.
Using your pry tool, start at the speaker grill and pry all the way around the phone. lifting just slightly upwards. If it's not extremely easy, apply more heat. Work all the way around, then pull the screen off. Be careful, it's likely you'll shatter the screen even more at this part if you're not careful. User Bozwell had an excellent suggestion (post 4), cover your screen in tape, then begin separating the screen to keep from getting glass everywhere. Great idea, Boz!
Alright, so from here on out, it's just reassembling your phone correctly. Piece o cake.
Firstly, put your new screen in. If it came with adhesive, it's up to you if you want to apply it now. I'd think you probably have to, but up to you.
If you're like me, and no adhesive was provided, hold off on doing anything for now. Just put the screen in the hole, and thread the ribbons through.
The motherboard lines up with some contacts on the chassis in a few places, but most importantly, there is a connection on the top left corner of the body, and the UNDERSIDE of the motherboard that needs to be made. I believe it's proximity sensor, but not sure. It's very difficult to tell if its attached, but look at what I'm describing, and try your best to mate them.
Don't forget ANY cables. Like, that's pretty obvious, but even when you're sure you didnt forget any, check again. The camera's ribbon is underneath the screen's, don't forget that one. I reassebled the whole thing, everything was working perfectly, except I no longer had any mobile connection. I couldn't imagine what I'd broken, since that's a whole different area, but going to phone status and checking my signal strength revealed I forgot to reconnect the white antennae (status showed my signal at -200,000 dbm). So, double check, because the more often you have to reopen your phone, the more flimsy it's going to get.
Alright, screw the plastic shielding back on, reconnect your battery, then flip the phone to be face up. Power it on, test the screen to make sure it's functional. If all is well, power off and glue the screen in. What I did, and I welcome anyone to tell me a better glue type or method, is plain ol Super glue along all the edges where the old glue was. Press it in, flip it over, and while it's drying, finish reassembling the phone (should just be make sure everything is screwed in inside, then put back glass back on.
If your screen wasn't functional, I guess try to get it replaced by whoever you bought it from, and leave your phone disassembled for when it gets to your house.
Alright, that's pretty much the thick and thin of it, it genuinely isn't that hard of a replacement. I've done a number of digitizer/lcd replacements, not bad at all. I hope this helped anyone stuck or wondering about anything. This video can be used as a rough example, but it goes really fast.
Good Luck!
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the removal was a nightmare for me. It was hilarious when the glass cracked it was exploding into a million little bitty pieces. I didnt use much heat, and there lied my problem. But yeah mine cracked in a way that it was completely unresponsive.
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the removal was a nightmare for me. It was hilarious when the glass cracked it was exploding into a million little bitty pieces. I didnt use much heat, and there lied my problem. But yeah mine cracked in a way that it was completely unresponsive.
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Haha that's crazy, it bothers me how fragile this phone seems to be.
To keep the glass shards from going everywhere try covering the screen in tape before you start.
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To keep the glass shards from going everywhere try covering the screen in tape before you start.
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Great idea, OP updated!
So, what would I do if the screen itself is ok and it's just the glass (and digitizer) that is broken?
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So, what would I do if the screen itself is ok and it's just the glass (and digitizer) that is broken?
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You'll need a real heat gun, I think. You'll have to find a heat just hot enough to soften the glue, but not cook your lcd. Hair dryer method might work if you are extremely careful and very quick, but not sure exactly what the best method would be. Sorry
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You'll need a real heat gun, I think. You'll have to find a heat just hot enough to soften the glue, but not cook your lcd. Hair dryer method might work if you are extremely careful and very quick, but not sure exactly what the best method would be. Sorry
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I figured...though I've been eye-ing using the screen+digitizer+front housing if and when they get back into stock.
(digitizer only is also out-of-stock)
Well I did one last week that was successful but I was practicing on one with a broken digitizer so it was no good anyway. I broke it. This one seemed more hard to separate from the lcd. I don't know why. The lcd lifted from the housing and I didnt use much heat at all. But I'll post pictures for anyone who would like to attempt this. You can see on the pic with the tool how thin the glass is and where the lcd lifted from the housing.
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Oh yea.you have to be extra careful of that flex cable connecting to the lcd which is exposed
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warriorpluto said:
Well I did one last week that was successful but I was practicing on one with a broken digitizer so it was no good anyway. I broke it. This one seemed more hard to separate from the lcd. I don't know why. The lcd lifted from the housing and I didnt use much heat at all. But I'll post pictures for anyone who would like to attempt this. You can see on the pic with the tool how thin the glass is and where the lcd lifted from the housing.
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I was looking for a thread to post this in, this may be the right place as you may have an idea, since you just installed a mega screen.
I cracked my mega screen last night, originally the phone was still working. In about half an hour the screen wasn't registering swipes, so I can't even unlock the screen. I dropped the phone in the rain so I'm not sure if it's simply the screen or if water has gotten in to the cracks?
Anyways, I am trying to make a decision on wether to sell my broken phone to Mazuma mobile and get around $120 back, or wether it's worth trying to get fixed. I'm not confident fixing phones, so ordering in the screen and attempting it is not an option. What I want to know, is what are the chances of a local repair shop being able to source a mega screen, and fix it, for a decent cost that would make getting it fixed the better option? Since you have just installed a screen I figure you at least know how much the part is
You can buy the lcd screen + digitizer which comes all pre-assembled and all you have to do it swap the whole screen + digitizer out as one unit..this way no fear of breaking anything..i see one on ebay for $158.00 US for the mega 6.3 i9200..but i think it will also work on the other 6.3 mega models..as they must all be the same that way...but i am not 100% sure on that. :good:
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I was looking for a thread to post this in, this may be the right place as you may have an idea, since you just installed a mega screen.
I cracked my mega screen last night, originally the phone was still working. In about half an hour the screen wasn't registering swipes, so I can't even unlock the screen. I dropped the phone in the rain so I'm not sure if it's simply the screen or if water has gotten in to the cracks?
Anyways, I am trying to make a decision on wether to sell my broken phone to Mazuma mobile and get around $120 back, or wether it's worth trying to get fixed. I'm not confident fixing phones, so ordering in the screen and attempting it is not an option. What I want to know, is what are the chances of a local repair shop being able to source a mega screen, and fix it, for a decent cost that would make getting it fixed the better option? Since you have just installed a screen I figure you at least know how much the part is
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If you get the lcd and digitizer together, you can fix yourself and it's easy just as star master says. If you have a shop nearby they can replace just the glass
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I was looking for a thread to post this in, this may be the right place as you may have an idea, since you just installed a mega screen.
I cracked my mega screen last night, originally the phone was still working. In about half an hour the screen wasn't registering swipes, so I can't even unlock the screen. I dropped the phone in the rain so I'm not sure if it's simply the screen or if water has gotten in to the cracks?
Anyways, I am trying to make a decision on wether to sell my broken phone to Mazuma mobile and get around $120 back, or wether it's worth trying to get fixed. I'm not confident fixing phones, so ordering in the screen and attempting it is not an option. What I want to know, is what are the chances of a local repair shop being able to source a mega screen, and fix it, for a decent cost that would make getting it fixed the better option? Since you have just installed a screen I figure you at least know how much the part is
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And don't sell. $120 is a freaking rip off
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And don't sell. $120 is a freaking rip off
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How much do you think it would go for on ebay? (or somewhere else) I didn't think a damaged phone would be worth selling?
That phone is still with over $200 as is.just the good motherboard alone. Especially if it had a clean imei number..then counting other parts of the phone too
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Good tutorial how to fix it
There is some kind of double side transparent adhesive between LCD and digitizer. So good luck
Opened front glass
Hi, I opened front glass of Mega 5.8 to clean the dust inside it. When I put it back, the touch is not working. Earlier it was working perfectly, I did not remove any cables. Also that I cleaned it with dry cloth while the phone was on.
What may be the issue?
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Oh yea.you have to be extra careful of that flex cable connecting to the lcd which is exposed
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How does it separate?
warriorpluto said:
Well I did one last week that was successful but I was practicing on one with a broken digitizer so it was no good anyway. I broke it. This one seemed more hard to separate from the lcd. I don't know why. The lcd lifted from the housing and I didnt use much heat at all. But I'll post pictures for anyone who would like to attempt this. You can see on the pic with the tool how thin the glass is and where the lcd lifted from the housing.
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Hi,
I've never worked on one of these before but I have repaired many GS3, GS4, Note 2 with no problems. You successfully repaired one so my question is, is the optical adhesive like the GS3 where it rubs off with your finger? I've noticed a difference in GS3 & GS4 adhesive the GS4 is more difficult to clean off digitizer.
That yellow flex cable in your pic looks like a Digitizer flex. The layers are LCD (bottom) / Digitizer (sits on top of LCD so center) / Glass (top which is what our finger touches).
I have a Mega coming in tomorrow and the customer bought just the glass online. I'll see if I can separate. If you have any questions let me know I have repaired many a phones.
Did you get it?
ReyesARG said:
Hi,
I've never worked on one of these before but I have repaired many GS3, GS4, Note 2 with no problems. You successfully repaired one so my question is, is the optical adhesive like the GS3 where it rubs off with your finger? I've noticed a difference in GS3 & GS4 adhesive the GS4 is more difficult to clean off digitizer.
That yellow flex cable in your pic looks like a Digitizer flex. The layers are LCD (bottom) / Digitizer (sits on top of LCD so center) / Glass (top which is what our finger touches).
I have a Mega coming in tomorrow and the customer bought just the glass online. I'll see if I can separate. If you have any questions let me know I have repaired many a phones.
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I wonder how was it going with your repair?
http://www.witrigs.com/samsung-galaxy-mega-replacement-parts
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letus1 said:
I wonder how was it going with your repair?
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Hey,
No good. The LCD was lifting off the frame which is a guarantee to break on such a large device. Also the adhesive is not the same as the GS3, it doesn't separate as easy. I stopped after I noticed the optical adhesive was not the same so do not attempt to "Lift Separate"
The best way to remove this digitizer is with a hot plate & (.10mm) molybdenum wire and slowly drag the wire between the LCD & Digi while face down on hotplate.
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Hey,
No good. The LCD was lifting off the frame which is a guarantee to break on such a large device. Also the adhesive is not the same as the GS3, it doesn't separate as easy. I stopped after I noticed the optical adhesive was not the same so do not attempt to "Lift Separate"
The best way to remove this digitizer is with a hot plate & (.10mm) molybdenum wire and slowly drag the wire between the LCD & Digi while face down on hotplate.
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If i separated the digitizer and the glass ftom the lcd, than can i bound the new one with LOCA or will that damage the LCD?
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Hey,
No good. The LCD was lifting off the frame which is a guarantee to break on such a large device. Also the adhesive is not the same as the GS3, it doesn't separate as easy. I stopped after I noticed the optical adhesive was not the same so do not attempt to "Lift Separate"
The best way to remove this digitizer is with a hot plate & (.10mm) molybdenum wire and slowly drag the wire between the LCD & Digi while face down on hotplate.
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I knew that was the only way to do it, with hot plate and fishing pole string. I'm sure it's a slow process. I'll have to invest in a good hot plate.
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No huge investment needed, I use a standard electric pancake griddle which can be bought for around $20. Good, even heat. I've never tried the fishing line method but a pair of business cards does the job very well. I get it started with a dull razor blade in the corner and as soon as I see the glass separating, I slide a business card in behind it. Do the same for the other side. On these big screens, slide the cards down a bit, lay it down on heat, repeat. The trick to not busting the LCD is to keep the heat on it and take your time.
My temperature is set to 200 farenheit. Not sure off hand what that converts to in celsius. Ideally, you don't want the surface to pass 120 celsius. If in doubt, start low and increase temp slowly until the glue softens enough.
The glue we're taking about is LOCA[liquid optically clear adhesive] and is UV activated. It can be bought online pretty cheap. If you're going to replace the glass, go ahead and use the LOCA when putting the new glass on. I've seen sensitivity issues on glass that doesn't have the glue between it and the LCD. If you use the glue be sure to remove EVERYTHING from the frame including cameras, speakers, buttons and mics as it can get messy and go pretty much everywhere. To activate the glue you can literally take it outside on a sunny day and it will cure fairly quickly, about 5 mins or so. To remove it from unwanted areas just use a toothpick, toothbrush, and some rubbing alcohol. I've done it dozens of times this way and it always comes out looking factory fresh
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No huge investment needed, I use a standard electric pancake griddle which can be bought for around $20. Good, even heat. I've never tried the fishing line method but a pair of business cards does the job very well. I get it started with a dull razor blade in the corner and as soon as I see the glass separating, I slide a business card in behind it. Do the same for the other side. On these big screens, slide the cards down a bit, lay it down on heat, repeat. The trick to not busting the LCD is to keep the heat on it and take your time.
My temperature is set to 200 farenheit. Not sure off hand what that converts to in celsius. Ideally, you don't want the surface to pass 120 celsius. If in doubt, start low and increase temp slowly until the glue softens enough.
The glue we're taking about is LOCA[liquid optically clear adhesive] and is UV activated. It can be bought online pretty cheap. If you're going to replace the glass, go ahead and use the LOCA when putting the new glass on. I've seen sensitivity issues on glass that doesn't have the glue between it and the LCD. If you use the glue be sure to remove EVERYTHING from the frame including cameras, speakers, buttons and mics as it can get messy and go pretty much everywhere. To activate the glue you can literally take it outside on a sunny day and it will cure fairly quickly, about 5 mins or so. To remove it from unwanted areas just use a toothpick, toothbrush, and some rubbing alcohol. I've done it dozens of times this way and it always comes out looking factory fresh
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What kind of griddle? This is the one without the edges right?
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starmaster10 said:
You can buy the lcd screen + digitizer which comes all pre-assembled and all you have to do it swap the whole screen + digitizer out as one unit..this way no fear of breaking anything..i see one on ebay for $158.00 US for the mega 6.3 i9200..but i think it will also work on the other 6.3 mega models..as they must all be the same that way...but i am not 100% sure on that. :good:
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I like this..
fixxforyou said:
May i ask how much for this glass?
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Who give your answer ? Mention it..