Hi everyone,
I want to root my phone (will use this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200167 - I dont understand much about this but ohh well) and i read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905) so i kinda knew what i was doing. And as i understood from that thread, the best way to backup all my data (like creating my custom rom right?) is with nandroid! But what is nandroid and how can i backup my data with it?
I just would like some suggestions from you! what i should do and how i should do it before i root my phone?
Thank you in advance!
After root install custom recovery, reboot phone to it and choose backup, wait and its done.
send from Andy's PHOENIX.
i didnt quite understood the install custom recovery! how can i install it? i can only do a backup of my recovery when i root my phone?
would be awesome if i could have a private chat with someone who could lose some of their time explaining me this!
Palmaaa said:
i didnt quite understood the install custom recovery! how can i install it? i can only do a backup of my recovery when i root my phone?
would be awesome if i could have a private chat with someone who could lose some of their time explaining me this!
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After rooting your phone, please read this how-to and you should able to install recovery just fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146566
BTW, prefer installing TWRP v1.0.3.13b recovery instead of the buggy CWM or old amonra
I forgot to mention that my knowledge about this is basically "0"! So i would thank you if you could explain a little better!
Sorry and thank you once again for understanding!
Palmaaa said:
I forgot to mention that my knowledge about this is basically "0"! So i would thank you if you could explain a little better!
Sorry and thank you once again for understanding!
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ok, my understanding is that in order to use nandroid backup, your phone has to be rooted first.
in the link you posted about rooting GB 2.3.3 ROM, it only mentioned using astro file manager to backup the apps. nowhere it mentioned nandroid backup.
if you are rooting a froyo(2.2/2.2.x) based phone, it is really quite simple. I do not think any kind of backup is needed at all.
Well i finished rooting my phone. Went well with no problems. Quite simple in fact, but what i wanted to know is, imagine i install a custom rom (btw, i know kernel improves the performance of your phone, so what does a custom rom does?) that i suddenly dont like, so i want to get back to my hold one. How can i backup my original rom?
Palmaaa said:
Well i finished rooting my phone. Went well with no problems. Quite simple in fact, but what i wanted to know is, imagine i install a custom rom (btw, i know kernel improves the performance of your phone, so what does a custom rom does?) that i suddenly dont like, so i want to get back to my hold one. How can i backup my original rom?
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OK, my suggestion is to use ROM manager from market. quite noob friendly.
it has backup/restore option right there. just follow the menu.
Oh ok! thank you very much for your time! i'll remember myself to use that app when i think of getting a new rom! probably tomorrow or so!
again, thank you!
Palmaaa said:
Oh ok! thank you very much for your time! i'll remember myself to use that app when i think of getting a new rom! probably tomorrow or so!
again, thank you!
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To use ROM Manager features you must inevitable flash CWM recovery and to do so you have two options, first beign flashing it via ROM Manager that can cause a bricked phone, or use recovery flashing how-to i posted earlier and install buggy and crappy CWM from there, thats why i recommend TWRP recovery
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
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To use ROM Manager features you must inevitable flash CWM recovery and to do so you either have two options, first beign flashing it via ROM Manager that can cause a bricked phone, or use recovery flashing how-to i posted earlier and install buggy and crappy CWM from there, thats why i recommend TWRP recovery
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thanks for the warning, but CWM has been working great for me. no problem at all.
yeah, do proceed with caution.
calhotel said:
thanks for the warning, but CWM has been working great for me. no problem at all.
yeah, do proceed with caution.
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Ya, its not that it'll break phone but many features dont go well like zip signature verification which verifies that everything is correct in the zip and so the flash process will not cause a corrupted filesystem, mmm the amount of "No" confirmations are frankly ridiculous... some users reported flashing problems with the last version 5.0.2.0... Cannot repair SD Card, doesnt have touchscreen support and it cannot make selective backups which frankly s%x cause you wasted time and space... (also the fact that doesnt have themes support and cant compress backups...)
And also the fact tha maaany maaany users including me have bricked their phones flashing via ROM Manager... And also the fact that wiping cache & dalvik with CWM will cause conflict with a2sd script users...
Anyway @Palmaaa if you want to risk your phone flash via rom manager... if you want a crappy recovery flash CWM.... if you want the best and safest recovery then prefer TWRP v1.0.3.13b, your phone and your physical keys will say thank you
I appreciate your warning! ill try to search a bit more about what im going to do next!
Never use ROM manager. It breaks the phone and it gets stuck at LG logo on boot. Many users have reported the issue. Use the recovery for flashing and taking backups.
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Never use ROM manager. It breaks the phone and it gets stuck at LG logo on boot. Many users have reported the issue. Use the recovery for flashing and taking backups.
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it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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sorry that you dont want to argue but, boy are you kidding me with that rating thing?? do you really think that every single person in market (and that rated that thing) has an Optimus One?? you are sooo naive....
In our phone p500 or optimus one, 01, OO, ROM Manager is very well known for bricking our devices....
Oh, and btw seems that you doesnt have a clue on how benefical is to have a properly working zip verification feature and also the plethora of other useful functions TWRP has..
kthnxbye
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it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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Yeah, none of them are morons. For every other widget and live wallpaper app, the 'intelligent' users rate the app 1 star just because they cannot find it under the app drawer. So keeping in mind the 'intelligent' users on the market, I don't give a **** about the ratings.
It doesn't make a difference if you did not face issues. There are many people who have faced the issue and ONLY because of ROM manager. Just wanted to prevent another user from facing a similar issue and instead use the clean and safe method of custom recovery.
You tone showed that you're arguing. That last sentence doesn't make any sense.
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sorry that you dont want to argue but, boy are you kidding me with that rating thing?? do you really think that every single person in market (and that rated that thing) has an Optimus One?? you are sooo naive....
In our phone p500 or optimus one, 01, OO, ROM Manager is very well known for bricking our devices....
Oh, and btw seems that you doesnt have a clue on how benefical is to have a properly working zip verification feature and also the plethora of other useful functions TWRP has..
kthnxbye
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statistically, I trust that rating more than you guys' opinion. sorry to tell you the truth.
TWRP, yeah, that's nice. but CWD worked for me, so?
calhotel said:
statistically, I trust that rating more than you guys' opinion. sorry to tell you the truth.
TWRP, yeah, that's nice. but CWD worked for me, so?
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Dude you are not helping.... encouraging users and specially new users to install something that has a high risk to screw and brick ur phone is not a way of helping them, if rom manager worked for you its fine, but maybe for another user it'll break his phone, ROM Manager is an unreliable app and method to use recoveries....... Ohh and btw user can install whatever he wants im just guiding and encouraging him to install the safest and most trustworthy and functional recovery of all, and is TWRP v1.0.3.13b
Have phun when ur volume keys, menu or any other button stops working LOLz
cya
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Dude you are not helping.... encouraging users and specially new users to install something that has a high risk to screw and brick ur phone is not a way of helping them, if rom manager worked for you its fine, but maybe for another user it'll break his phone, ROM Manager is an unreliable app and method to use recoveries....... Ohh and btw user can install whatever he wants im just guiding and encouraging him to install the safest and most trustworthy and functional recovery of all, and is TWRP v1.0.3.13b
cya
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thanks, I think you already scared a lot of ppl off. lol. maybe I will try TWRP one day.
for me, that's fine. I have no axe to grind.
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I see that the topic has been closed due to some people claiming it bricks devices when you try and flash something over it. My question is to Master, will you continue to support and update this ROM? I didn't plan on flashing Kana 2, but Kana 3 would have been what I flashed since I like to flash every other upgrade.
If not, could it be possible that the people who claimed to be bricked didn't disable Voodoo before they flashed another rom?
Lastly, can I ODIN back to JI6 even though the Kana rom was a 2.2 rom with Voodoo enabled?
I guess I'll just try ODIN'ing later.
I just think its people not following directions and new people just wanting to have the newest, latest thing and have no idea what it is they're doing. Its just easier to blame the mistakes on a faulty bootloader then to accept the fact they screwed up....just sayin
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I just think its people not following directions and new people just wanting to have the newest, latest thing and have no idea what it is they're doing. Its just easier to blame the mistakes on a faulty bootloader then to accept the fact they screwed up....just sayin
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The ROM didn't even have the Sbl.bin
Master™ said:
The ROM didn't even have the Sbl.bin
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Right..I know which made the stories even better...lmao
Master! Do you plan on updating Kana? I love the rom.
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I just think its people not following directions and new people just wanting to have the newest, latest thing and have no idea what it is they're doing. Its just easier to blame the mistakes on a faulty bootloader then to accept the fact they screwed up....just sayin
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No. It's not because "directions were not followed properly" or because I "had no idea what I was doing". I personally at this point am not blaming Master for what happened either. As strange as it sounds and as much as I know it's easy to think "oh well they must have done something wrong" I assure you I didn't. I flashed a rom through clockwork the exact same way that I and everybody else does and has done countless times before, the install finished, I selected "reboot system now" from the clockwork recovery main menu, and that's it, phone was DOA. Trust me, I know what I am doing.
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No. It's not because "directions were not followed properly" or because I "had no idea what I was doing". I personally at this point am not blaming Master for what happened either. As strange as it sounds and as much as I know it's easy to think "oh well they must have done something wrong" I assure you I didn't. I flashed a rom through clockwork the exact same way that I and everybody else does and has done countless times before, the install finished, I selected "reboot system now" from the clockwork recovery main menu, and that's it, phone was DOA. Trust me, I know what I am doing.
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I didn't single you out....and don't feel in any way that I was personally attacking you..I wasn't. I tried to help you on your problem yesterday but I don't feel the majority of the "bricks" happening can be blamed on a new sbl.bin...It may contribute to a few...possible... and this was a ROM without that file added...
So my comments are pertaining to this rom since this rom was the one in the subject line.
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I didn't single you out....and don't feel in any way that I was personally attacking you..I wasn't. I tried to help you on your problem yesterday but I don't feel the majority of the "bricks" happening can be blamed on a new sbl.bin...It may contribute to a few...possible... and this was a ROM without that file added...
So my comments are pertaining to this rom since this rom was the one in the subject line.
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I know, and I appreciate you trying to help me. I apologize if I came off like an asshole. I'm just frustrated as hell, and on edge.
I think we got off track. Could I ODIN this back to stock with Voodoo enabled or do I have to turn it off before I do? LoL
No need to disable voodoo when flashing through Odin. It formats the partitions affected by voodoo back to the standard rfs file system.
*sends thanks*
I appreciate it. I don't mind ODIN'ing first before I flash a new rom just in case. I plan on sticking with this rom for a bit, it's nice.
It's generally a good idea to To flash back to stock via Odin between roms. I can tell you that I will never make the mistake of not doing so ever again.
Hey guys, nice section you have here. I've been reading all about the Atrix and have a couple of questions to confirm what i'm assuming.
Oh yeah, is the Atrix and Atrix 4G the same? I'm assuming so as i've not seen different specs or sections for it here, just wanted to be 100000% sure as i've never owned an android phone!
If i keep the Bootloader locked, is it impossible for me to hard brick the device? Seeing as though i can't freely flash to a lower firmware? (not including things like upgrading to official firmware and running out of battery etc, that's a sure fire way of bricking
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Just say i'm on 2.3.4 and i'm rooted and unlocked, if i flash CM7, can i reflash something like Alien or MIUI (when or if it gets ported) without ANY chance of a hard brick (AKA does it touch the bootloader and/or does it carry the risks which the flashing of a lower firmware does?)
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Would LauncherPro and other theme programs be available across the wide range of ROMS as long as i'm rooted?
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Thanks for your time guys, i'm busy reading up and watching the few videos on youtube (seriously, hardly anyone makes videos about this phone, what's up with that? ) I do have a cold right about now so will take a rest but i can't sleep knowing that i may soon be getting this phone (if my order for a Samsung Galaxy S (1) is not accepted by Vodafone and their stringent credit checks!)
Thanks again guys, hope to see you around soon!
The phone will be on T-Mobile in the UK. Hopefully!
First and last bump! I was wondering if installing LauncherPro would have any negative effects on the speed of the phone? It's dual core and has 1gb ram so i'm thinking the new launcher would not cause any lag but has anyone tried this and found out that it does indeed lag?
No not impossible, i would think it would be easier to brick with a locked bl.
Yes you can reflash, and no you won't get the "lower fw brick".
Yes you can use other launchers, always.
Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thanks a lot mate.
To expand on the 1st answer, is it because with the locked BL, i can't install CWM so technically if i brick, it'll be harder if not impossible to fix it? So in a way, an unlocked BL is safer then, as long as i don't try to downgrade? That sounds kinda awesome!
Also, after the first flash, is it easier to flash another rom or is it the same process? I mean, is the 1st flash always the hardest and longest? Because i'm thinking that the 1st time flash would have me install a lot of things, and the next time i reflash, i can use the things i already installed the 1st time (such as CWM etc) to flash another rom can't i? I just want to be able to swap between a few different ROMS without having to risk a hard brick! Thanks for your answers btw, really appreciate it
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Thats right, the unlocked bootloader is the best way to go if you plan on flashing because of custom recovery.
Yes most likely its about the same process BUT, most if not all ROMs will have instructions on how to flash - make sure you read and follow them dont just "do what you did last time".
Prob the easiest way to swap between ROMs easily is to keep nandroid backups for them through cwm.
As far as it being easier to flash the next ROM because you can "keep things from the last flash".. NO you dont want to keep anything between flashing, meaning you should most likley always wipe data, cache & such unless otherwise specified (sometimes upgrading ROMs from one version to the next you can use a "no wipe" upgrade).
Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Thanks so much! Will install Nandroid asap when i get it! Also, i didn't mean "keep" things as in data and/or apps or cache or whatever, i meant like the 1st flashing would include installing CWM recovery, but the next time i reflash, i won't have to install that again, or would i? If not, then that's great!
Can't wait to try out Cyanogen Mod, theme it up, install some cool apps and just mess around with it! Bookmarked every section of the Atrix forum so i can easily read through it
Thank you for your time in helping a confused noob out I have read a lot of guides but without the phone in front of me, and me being completely new to this, it's not really sinking in. Once i get the phone physically in my hands, then i bet i'll learn a lot more!
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Nandroid backup is a backup through CWM, it is not a seperate app. As far as having to install CWM each time.. No you wont have to, the recovery stays but it should be updated when available, unless stated otherwise. Rom Manager will install the latest version of CWM for you. Doing a backup in CWM is known as a Nandroid backup.
Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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Right, i get it now, i was confusing it with Titanium Backup but i've looked at vids about it and know what it does now. Isn't it risky to read/write from NAND a lot? Hmm
Also, if i Nand backed up my stock firmware (before i flash anything), can i restore from there and return to that stock backup anytime i want? If that's possible then i'm sorted!
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I dont know of any risks to Nandroid backup, only benefits. I have returned to a Nandroid backup on my Captivate but not on the Atrix, i have created a Nandroid backup on (stock) Atrix and recommend do the same jic. I believe you can return to that stock back up (after flashing) if needed but first check out the section on fruitcakes, there is more info along these lines in that thread.
Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Reading the section now, makes little sense yet but i'm sure i'll understand. What they basically are are roms that don't touch the BL, so doesn't matter if its a lower firmware than the one i'm on because these fruitcakes don't look at the BL and will flash the firmware without bricking, whereas if i downgraded with a stock firmware or something, they touch the BL and will find out it's unlocked and on a newer firmware so the flashing ends up physically bricking the device. That's what i'm basically assuming. Also, read another thread where the OP said he recovered from a stock nandroid backup from a CM7 rom, which sounds a hell of a lot easier than downgrading carefully using special roms!
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Dont worry it makes more and more sense as you learn and play with it. Your assumption of fruitcakes is my understanding as well. I agree that nandroid backup/restore seams a slightly easier method than fruitcakes, but thought I would include the fruitcake methods for you seeing as how you were concerned of a risk with nand, plus the more reading the better. Also NandBacks do take up a good amount of storage space, but are worth it jic. As long as you read you should be just fine, reading here on xda is the best thing you can do to keep from screwing something up. Good luck.
Thank you mate, i really appreciate your time! If i wasn't so ill, i'd be understanding more i think, but i have to look away every few seconds or else my eyes will explode haha, i guess i'm not getting the Galaxy S anymore, i hope i don't regret it! And with the method of hiding the unlocked bootloader, i'm hoping IF anything bad happens, then i still have a chance of tricking the tricksters who gave us these locked down phones in the first place! Android was supposed to be free and open I'm just glad at the thought of getting rid of my iPhone 3g + iTunes + Quicktime.
Also, in your opinion, is ADW EX better than Launcher Pro?
Heyo fellas
Long story short:
I'm looking to flash the latest CM7 nightly (10/30?) and I'm on Aura 1.2.2.1 right now.
Basically, because I fastboot nuke the hell out of my phone before any and all ROM flashes, I always end up flashing Romracer's recovery from fastboot (because I'm ROMless ha), and then flashing the rom.zip from there.
All in all the process is actually remarkly fast and efficient.
BUT:
As I understand it, CM7 is only advised to be flashed with CWM (downloaded thru rom manager).
With that said, is there an official thread for ROM Manager/CWM that has downloadable & flashable recovery images?
I need the images because, like I said, I fastboot erase EVERYTHING on my phone, including whatever recovery I had, then I just flash a recovery and install my new ROM.
Disclaimer: I have INDEED searched all the Android forums (multiple times) for an official thread, and came back fruitless.
If nothing else, would it be possible to 1) flash the latest CWM in my current Aura, then 2) adb pull or copy the recovery 3) do all the wiping through fastboot 4) push the recovery back? Where would it store the recovery image/file?
Thanks for any links or advice guys, I really appreciate it.
why do you feel it necessary to fastboot wipe EVERYTHING?
whatever your OCD reason, what you are requesting is the .img file that you could have gotten directly from /sdcard/clockworkmod/ folder if you installed it from ROM manager, or you could have gone to his website
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
stop fastboot wiping everything every time. its not necessary.
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why do you feel it necessary to fastboot wipe EVERYTHING?
whatever your OCD reason, what you are requesting is the .img file that you could have gotten directly from /sdcard/clockworkmod/ folder if you installed it from ROM manager, or you could have gone to his website
http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
stop fastboot wiping everything every time. its not necessary.
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thanks for the direction bro. So sorry it never occurred to me to straight up google an official website. Thank you though.
And my b bro- about wiping everything: I've just had to deal with one to many a problem in the past where ROMs aren't consistent about how much you should wipe, and then I flash and get FC hells + all sorts of other issues. I just consider it safe practice now to "Tabula Rasa" that bad boy up and go from there.
Thanks again though bro I appreciate it.
Wipeing recovery when it's not needed. You do know solid state drives have only so many times they can write? While this number is large it is not indefinite. Recovery definatly does not need to be wiped every time you flash a new ROM as the ROM should not change anything in recovery nor rely on recovery after it is installed.
Honestly constantly flashing things can be bad not just do to the limited writes but more so you could induce an bad block easier by writing then just reading
Just my 2 cents though, it's your phone.
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Bros bros kindly hop off my meat here.
Now, you've enlightened me a great deal as to the fragility of this technology I hold in my hands, but I assure you a number of things:
1) This Atrix was not a family heirloom. It can be replaced, and I've got backups lying around everywhere (og Moto Razr V3 & Moto Backflip w/ CM7 to name a few)
2) I wipe completely because I make each flash count- as such, you can probably count on just your two handsies the number of times I've flashed new ROMs. Like seriously bros, I've flashed much less than you. I'm not a binge-flasher.
3) Dude, this is Motorola's phone. If it was mine, I'd be rolling in the dough and girlies and a BMW to compensate for my e-peen.
I appreciate the information fellas, I really do. And I actually appreciate the risk assessment you've offered as well.
But mom, all I wanted was a pepsi. Just one Pepsi.
Did not mean it in any other way but some info. Personally I flash alot so sometimes I assume others do too
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Did not mean it in any other way but some info. Personally I flash alot so sometimes I assume others do too
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Right on bro. I actually was not aware of the read/write limitations of solid state drives, so I definitely learned something today.
Anyhow, I'm rockin SEE 'EM SEVEN on my AY TEA ARE and I'm a happy man.
Thank all you bros I appreciate the info, advice, and warnings.
I love this guy. And he is now my new BFF. I'm sorry Tom Cruise, but we can't chill anymore. I literally laughed (in a good humor awesome way not in a "laughing at you way") through this whole post. OP reminds me so much of myself, I know we'd get along outside of the forums as well. Life's too short to stress, and I love yer attitude man. Good luck all, happy flashing!
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I love this guy. And he is now my new BFF. I'm sorry Tom Cruise, but we can't chill anymore. I literally laughed (in a good humor awesome way not in a "laughing at you way") through this whole post. OP reminds me so much of myself, I know we'd get along outside of the forums as well. Life's too short to stress, and I love yer attitude man. Good luck all, happy flashing!
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Thank you so much for the sentiment my dear bro. Means buckets to me that I can brighten somebody's day, especially somebody of your great renown (that person being you, actually).
If you're ever in NYC you let me know and we'll, I don't know, hit up a chill bar or just hang and play video games or something.
And don't you fret bro, I'm totally down with Tom Cruise sharing our presence.
Also, for what it's worth, and I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, CM7 can be flashed from Romracer's recovery just fine.
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Also, for what it's worth, and I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet, CM7 can be flashed from Romracer's recovery just fine.
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Right on bro looks like I'm batting a thousand with my 'learn a new thing everyday' jar.
I actually was not aware of this and, while I'm pleased to say I've been running CM7 for a bit now, this is very useful information.
And for that I do thank you bro.
Hello everybody,
I use the Cyanogenmod Nightlys on my SGS3. Because I wanted to do a reset, I formatted Cache, System, data, and preload. I deleted all the files from the Internal SD. I thought I could restart my phone and have my Cyanogenmod. But nothing work.
I hope you can help me...
Put your phone in downlaod mode and reflash a Stock rom with odin.
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Put your phone in downlaod mode and reflash a Stock rom with odin.
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This.
You cannot format everything and delete everything and expect there to still be something..
Thank you for the very fast help. I asked because I didn't want to do anything that fully brick my S3. Sorry for my bad enlish.
My advice is to stay out of rooting and falshing custom roms if your knowledge of the device is in such a poor level you don't know to use odin to go stock..
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My advice is to stay out of rooting and falshing custom roms if your knowledge of the device is in such a poor level you don't know to use odin to go stock..
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I wouldn't know that either and I've flashed tons of custom ROMs successfully. This website is surely for people to learn as well as for developers to discuss things with each other; no need to tell somebody to quit rooting just because they made a mistake.
That is a kinda strange statement.
Odin/Heimdall is the only way to root the S3. You expect him to gain knowledge of the rooting/flashing procedure without actually doing it?
I didn't want to do anything that fully brick my S3
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It's really hard to hard-brick your phone so that it won't even go to download mode anymore. Flashing custom Roms -and especially CM9- won't cause this.
However you WILL need an efs backup, since that part of your phone could easily get lost and is not possible/very hard to recover.
I just rooted my Canadian Note, with some help from some awesome people here on XDA. And I was wondering if I can use Rom Manager, to backup, and restore my Note?
I did backups and restoring on my old HTC Desire HD, but I just wanna make sure that Roms Manager, supports my Note specifically.
If someone can confirm this, I'd be extremely grateful! ت
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
Adizzzle said:
I just rooted my Canadian Note, with some help from some awesome people here on XDA. And I was wondering if I can use Rom Manager, to backup, and restore my Note?
I did backups and restoring on my old HTC Desire HD, but I just wanna make sure that Roms Manager, supports my Note specifically.
If someone can confirm this, I'd be extremely grateful! ت
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
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you can...But
I've always prefered the recovery for a restore of backups, and to create them. Recovery is fool proof, and will provide the type of files it can read. but when using apps to perform a recovery function, the risk goes up.
Rom manager is a good app, but I have had issues with it in the past, and do not use it now....g
So all in all, its better to use CWM for backing up, and restoring, as apposed to using an app like "Rom Manager"?
Thanks again gregsarg. You've been super helpful!
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
Adizzzle said:
So all in all, its better to use CWM for backing up, and restoring, as apposed to using an app like "Rom Manager"?
Thanks again gregsarg. You've been super helpful!
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
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I believe so, yes...:good:
any time you rely on an app, to perform a function, you are relying on the build parameters of the app. and since there are sooooo many variables in software etc. you can get errors.
Recovery is a good choice for creating a solid backup...IMHO
Have you personally tried a back up using CWM on the Galaxy Note i717d? Just out of curiousity.
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Adizzzle said:
Have you personally tried a back up using CWM on the Galaxy Note i717d? Just out of curiousity.
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More times than you can count, on the SGH-I717 (ATT) and the N7000 (international) note.
CWM operation is the same for both....and they both run and restore well using this method....g
Everybody flashing the custom rom uses either CWM or TWRP to create backups before they flash.
If you rely on Rom Manager, and a rom goes bad (like they sometimes do), you won't be able to boot and use Rom Manager.
Recovery can be accessed even if your rom flash is bad.
and now you see the method to my madness.....
Use recovery, and life will be "much" better......g
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
Adizzzle said:
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
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And I'll say it again. This is a perfect example of what XDA is about in my book. Everyone helping everyone make their devices better than they were when we bought them. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Adizzzle said:
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
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Always welcome ....g
Confused.
Okay, all of you here have totally confused me. I have used CWM Recovery for a while now and decided to try ROM Manager. As far as I can tell RM only allows you to flash CWM updates and collect information and input that info into CWM. I will say that the installation of CWM-Touch has an issue but that might be my own doing. I can live with the old version though.
ie: If you want to install a new ROM, you pick if from your SD card and RM boots you into CWM and it does its thing. You want to make a BU...? Just push that button and it boots into CWM and boom...its done. (It also asks you if you want to do the wipes.)
I can still do all this by booting into CWM manually without using RM...so I don't get why some of you say not to use it (ROM Manager.) It does the same thing but as far as I can tell it does not prevent or change Manual operation in CWM in any way.
I don't see the problem here. Please correct me if I'm wrong...and some theory too if you can.
Try running a CWM restore , using rom manager , when your phone won't boot due to a corrupt or incorrect flash....
The point is ...it isn't gonna happen...as rom manager is an onboard app.
And in my opinion, one that users depend on far to much....
We are simply eliminating that potential problem area ...but hey ...use it if you want....I'll use recovery ....g
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Try running a CWM restore , using rom manager , when your phone won't boot due to a corrupt or incorrect flash....
The point is ...it isn't gonna happen...as rom manager is an onboard app.
And in my opinion, one that users depend on far to much....
We are simply eliminating that potential problem area ...but hey ...use it if you want....I'll use recovery ....g
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Okay, maybe there is a mistake in terminology here.
My point is that you don't have to use Rom Manager to get into CWM Recovery. You can use it--or not...ie" If I can't get to CWM from the ROM, I just do the volume + - and power as usual. So I don't get "your" point. Once CWM is installed it can be accessed by either method. I have done it both ways with no issues so far. I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to understand what I might be missing.
When a new samsung phone is released to the public, the first thing developers do is try to change the stock 3e recovery with CWM so they can do the next step -- flash a rooted kernel. Two things we can't live wirhout.
Next, app developers step in and create apps that make the operating system more accessible -- like Rom Manager.
With the note, CWM (and now TWRP) and root came pretty fast after the release because it is very similar to all the Galaxy S phones. But Rom Manager didn't get done for a while, but in the meantime users installed it and borked their phones by overwriting CWM with recovery from other phones. When that got fixed, the nandroid feature didn't work either, so people experemented with roms without realizing they didn't have backups.
There are lots of people who never check a date of a thread and all that old stuff and outdated advice is still floating around causing havoc.
So like all threads helping someone troubleshoot their phone, you eliminate the known causes of trouble one step at a time.
Use what works for you.
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Okay, maybe there is a mistake in terminology here.
My point is that you don't have to use Rom Manager to get into CWM Recovery. You can use it--or not...ie" If I can't get to CWM from the ROM, I just do the volume + - and power as usual. So I don't get "your" point. Once CWM is installed it can be accessed by either method. I have done it both ways with no issues so far. I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to understand what I might be missing.
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Understood ...
I realize that CWM is accessed by rom manager, and I also understand that the device doesn't need it to access recovery.
As ranger said, it was risky at first to use RM , and it has since been repaired for the note.
My point is, rom manager is a step in the process that can stop folks from getting to recovery through the rom. (If the phone goes wonky) And you would be amazed at how many people can't manually boot to recovery.
My personal time spent with rom manager has caused me to "not " use it. My days on HTC were horrid with that app. And it has corrupted more than 1 recovery for me.
Of course , the choice is yours to use it .....it's okay, but a step that can cause huge problems....
And I encourage new users to learn the traditional method.....g
Many thanks to the two of you,very good answers. Sorry to push this but i have seen posts that say parts of what you said but never a good reason for their comments.
Thanks again.
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I'm glad to explain it. A history lesson is usually helpful.
I started with CWM but then switched to TWRP, they just released an update and you can get it from GooManager App. I like TWRP better.
The only catch is you cannot restore backups created by one recovery with the other. You will have to reflash the recovery who's backups you want to restore.