I just rooted my Canadian Note, with some help from some awesome people here on XDA. And I was wondering if I can use Rom Manager, to backup, and restore my Note?
I did backups and restoring on my old HTC Desire HD, but I just wanna make sure that Roms Manager, supports my Note specifically.
If someone can confirm this, I'd be extremely grateful! ت
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
Adizzzle said:
I just rooted my Canadian Note, with some help from some awesome people here on XDA. And I was wondering if I can use Rom Manager, to backup, and restore my Note?
I did backups and restoring on my old HTC Desire HD, but I just wanna make sure that Roms Manager, supports my Note specifically.
If someone can confirm this, I'd be extremely grateful! ت
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
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you can...But
I've always prefered the recovery for a restore of backups, and to create them. Recovery is fool proof, and will provide the type of files it can read. but when using apps to perform a recovery function, the risk goes up.
Rom manager is a good app, but I have had issues with it in the past, and do not use it now....g
So all in all, its better to use CWM for backing up, and restoring, as apposed to using an app like "Rom Manager"?
Thanks again gregsarg. You've been super helpful!
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
Adizzzle said:
So all in all, its better to use CWM for backing up, and restoring, as apposed to using an app like "Rom Manager"?
Thanks again gregsarg. You've been super helpful!
Model: SGH-I717D
Version: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8-perf
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I believe so, yes...:good:
any time you rely on an app, to perform a function, you are relying on the build parameters of the app. and since there are sooooo many variables in software etc. you can get errors.
Recovery is a good choice for creating a solid backup...IMHO
Have you personally tried a back up using CWM on the Galaxy Note i717d? Just out of curiousity.
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Adizzzle said:
Have you personally tried a back up using CWM on the Galaxy Note i717d? Just out of curiousity.
(⊙~⊙)
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More times than you can count, on the SGH-I717 (ATT) and the N7000 (international) note.
CWM operation is the same for both....and they both run and restore well using this method....g
Everybody flashing the custom rom uses either CWM or TWRP to create backups before they flash.
If you rely on Rom Manager, and a rom goes bad (like they sometimes do), you won't be able to boot and use Rom Manager.
Recovery can be accessed even if your rom flash is bad.
and now you see the method to my madness.....
Use recovery, and life will be "much" better......g
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
Adizzzle said:
Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
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And I'll say it again. This is a perfect example of what XDA is about in my book. Everyone helping everyone make their devices better than they were when we bought them. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Thanks guys, I'm astounded by how awesomely helpful everyone is here at XDA, you both have my thanks, many times over. ت
Furshizzzle Adizzzle
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Always welcome ....g
Confused.
Okay, all of you here have totally confused me. I have used CWM Recovery for a while now and decided to try ROM Manager. As far as I can tell RM only allows you to flash CWM updates and collect information and input that info into CWM. I will say that the installation of CWM-Touch has an issue but that might be my own doing. I can live with the old version though.
ie: If you want to install a new ROM, you pick if from your SD card and RM boots you into CWM and it does its thing. You want to make a BU...? Just push that button and it boots into CWM and boom...its done. (It also asks you if you want to do the wipes.)
I can still do all this by booting into CWM manually without using RM...so I don't get why some of you say not to use it (ROM Manager.) It does the same thing but as far as I can tell it does not prevent or change Manual operation in CWM in any way.
I don't see the problem here. Please correct me if I'm wrong...and some theory too if you can.
Try running a CWM restore , using rom manager , when your phone won't boot due to a corrupt or incorrect flash....
The point is ...it isn't gonna happen...as rom manager is an onboard app.
And in my opinion, one that users depend on far to much....
We are simply eliminating that potential problem area ...but hey ...use it if you want....I'll use recovery ....g
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Try running a CWM restore , using rom manager , when your phone won't boot due to a corrupt or incorrect flash....
The point is ...it isn't gonna happen...as rom manager is an onboard app.
And in my opinion, one that users depend on far to much....
We are simply eliminating that potential problem area ...but hey ...use it if you want....I'll use recovery ....g
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Okay, maybe there is a mistake in terminology here.
My point is that you don't have to use Rom Manager to get into CWM Recovery. You can use it--or not...ie" If I can't get to CWM from the ROM, I just do the volume + - and power as usual. So I don't get "your" point. Once CWM is installed it can be accessed by either method. I have done it both ways with no issues so far. I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to understand what I might be missing.
When a new samsung phone is released to the public, the first thing developers do is try to change the stock 3e recovery with CWM so they can do the next step -- flash a rooted kernel. Two things we can't live wirhout.
Next, app developers step in and create apps that make the operating system more accessible -- like Rom Manager.
With the note, CWM (and now TWRP) and root came pretty fast after the release because it is very similar to all the Galaxy S phones. But Rom Manager didn't get done for a while, but in the meantime users installed it and borked their phones by overwriting CWM with recovery from other phones. When that got fixed, the nandroid feature didn't work either, so people experemented with roms without realizing they didn't have backups.
There are lots of people who never check a date of a thread and all that old stuff and outdated advice is still floating around causing havoc.
So like all threads helping someone troubleshoot their phone, you eliminate the known causes of trouble one step at a time.
Use what works for you.
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Okay, maybe there is a mistake in terminology here.
My point is that you don't have to use Rom Manager to get into CWM Recovery. You can use it--or not...ie" If I can't get to CWM from the ROM, I just do the volume + - and power as usual. So I don't get "your" point. Once CWM is installed it can be accessed by either method. I have done it both ways with no issues so far. I'm not arguing with you I'm just trying to understand what I might be missing.
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Understood ...
I realize that CWM is accessed by rom manager, and I also understand that the device doesn't need it to access recovery.
As ranger said, it was risky at first to use RM , and it has since been repaired for the note.
My point is, rom manager is a step in the process that can stop folks from getting to recovery through the rom. (If the phone goes wonky) And you would be amazed at how many people can't manually boot to recovery.
My personal time spent with rom manager has caused me to "not " use it. My days on HTC were horrid with that app. And it has corrupted more than 1 recovery for me.
Of course , the choice is yours to use it .....it's okay, but a step that can cause huge problems....
And I encourage new users to learn the traditional method.....g
Many thanks to the two of you,very good answers. Sorry to push this but i have seen posts that say parts of what you said but never a good reason for their comments.
Thanks again.
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I'm glad to explain it. A history lesson is usually helpful.
I started with CWM but then switched to TWRP, they just released an update and you can get it from GooManager App. I like TWRP better.
The only catch is you cannot restore backups created by one recovery with the other. You will have to reflash the recovery who's backups you want to restore.
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Hi everyone,
I want to root my phone (will use this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200167 - I dont understand much about this but ohh well) and i read this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900905) so i kinda knew what i was doing. And as i understood from that thread, the best way to backup all my data (like creating my custom rom right?) is with nandroid! But what is nandroid and how can i backup my data with it?
I just would like some suggestions from you! what i should do and how i should do it before i root my phone?
Thank you in advance!
After root install custom recovery, reboot phone to it and choose backup, wait and its done.
send from Andy's PHOENIX.
i didnt quite understood the install custom recovery! how can i install it? i can only do a backup of my recovery when i root my phone?
would be awesome if i could have a private chat with someone who could lose some of their time explaining me this!
Palmaaa said:
i didnt quite understood the install custom recovery! how can i install it? i can only do a backup of my recovery when i root my phone?
would be awesome if i could have a private chat with someone who could lose some of their time explaining me this!
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After rooting your phone, please read this how-to and you should able to install recovery just fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146566
BTW, prefer installing TWRP v1.0.3.13b recovery instead of the buggy CWM or old amonra
I forgot to mention that my knowledge about this is basically "0"! So i would thank you if you could explain a little better!
Sorry and thank you once again for understanding!
Palmaaa said:
I forgot to mention that my knowledge about this is basically "0"! So i would thank you if you could explain a little better!
Sorry and thank you once again for understanding!
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ok, my understanding is that in order to use nandroid backup, your phone has to be rooted first.
in the link you posted about rooting GB 2.3.3 ROM, it only mentioned using astro file manager to backup the apps. nowhere it mentioned nandroid backup.
if you are rooting a froyo(2.2/2.2.x) based phone, it is really quite simple. I do not think any kind of backup is needed at all.
Well i finished rooting my phone. Went well with no problems. Quite simple in fact, but what i wanted to know is, imagine i install a custom rom (btw, i know kernel improves the performance of your phone, so what does a custom rom does?) that i suddenly dont like, so i want to get back to my hold one. How can i backup my original rom?
Palmaaa said:
Well i finished rooting my phone. Went well with no problems. Quite simple in fact, but what i wanted to know is, imagine i install a custom rom (btw, i know kernel improves the performance of your phone, so what does a custom rom does?) that i suddenly dont like, so i want to get back to my hold one. How can i backup my original rom?
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OK, my suggestion is to use ROM manager from market. quite noob friendly.
it has backup/restore option right there. just follow the menu.
Oh ok! thank you very much for your time! i'll remember myself to use that app when i think of getting a new rom! probably tomorrow or so!
again, thank you!
Palmaaa said:
Oh ok! thank you very much for your time! i'll remember myself to use that app when i think of getting a new rom! probably tomorrow or so!
again, thank you!
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To use ROM Manager features you must inevitable flash CWM recovery and to do so you have two options, first beign flashing it via ROM Manager that can cause a bricked phone, or use recovery flashing how-to i posted earlier and install buggy and crappy CWM from there, thats why i recommend TWRP recovery
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
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To use ROM Manager features you must inevitable flash CWM recovery and to do so you either have two options, first beign flashing it via ROM Manager that can cause a bricked phone, or use recovery flashing how-to i posted earlier and install buggy and crappy CWM from there, thats why i recommend TWRP recovery
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thanks for the warning, but CWM has been working great for me. no problem at all.
yeah, do proceed with caution.
calhotel said:
thanks for the warning, but CWM has been working great for me. no problem at all.
yeah, do proceed with caution.
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Ya, its not that it'll break phone but many features dont go well like zip signature verification which verifies that everything is correct in the zip and so the flash process will not cause a corrupted filesystem, mmm the amount of "No" confirmations are frankly ridiculous... some users reported flashing problems with the last version 5.0.2.0... Cannot repair SD Card, doesnt have touchscreen support and it cannot make selective backups which frankly s%x cause you wasted time and space... (also the fact that doesnt have themes support and cant compress backups...)
And also the fact tha maaany maaany users including me have bricked their phones flashing via ROM Manager... And also the fact that wiping cache & dalvik with CWM will cause conflict with a2sd script users...
Anyway @Palmaaa if you want to risk your phone flash via rom manager... if you want a crappy recovery flash CWM.... if you want the best and safest recovery then prefer TWRP v1.0.3.13b, your phone and your physical keys will say thank you
I appreciate your warning! ill try to search a bit more about what im going to do next!
Never use ROM manager. It breaks the phone and it gets stuck at LG logo on boot. Many users have reported the issue. Use the recovery for flashing and taking backups.
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Never use ROM manager. It breaks the phone and it gets stuck at LG logo on boot. Many users have reported the issue. Use the recovery for flashing and taking backups.
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it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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sorry that you dont want to argue but, boy are you kidding me with that rating thing?? do you really think that every single person in market (and that rated that thing) has an Optimus One?? you are sooo naive....
In our phone p500 or optimus one, 01, OO, ROM Manager is very well known for bricking our devices....
Oh, and btw seems that you doesnt have a clue on how benefical is to have a properly working zip verification feature and also the plethora of other useful functions TWRP has..
kthnxbye
calhotel said:
it never happened to me. look at the rating on market, do you think all the users are morons?
yeah, you guys had some bad experiences and hated this thing with a passion, but get the fact straight. sometimes it may not be rom manager but something else that bricked your phone.
not trying to argue or anything. just present with another opinion.
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Yeah, none of them are morons. For every other widget and live wallpaper app, the 'intelligent' users rate the app 1 star just because they cannot find it under the app drawer. So keeping in mind the 'intelligent' users on the market, I don't give a **** about the ratings.
It doesn't make a difference if you did not face issues. There are many people who have faced the issue and ONLY because of ROM manager. Just wanted to prevent another user from facing a similar issue and instead use the clean and safe method of custom recovery.
You tone showed that you're arguing. That last sentence doesn't make any sense.
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sorry that you dont want to argue but, boy are you kidding me with that rating thing?? do you really think that every single person in market (and that rated that thing) has an Optimus One?? you are sooo naive....
In our phone p500 or optimus one, 01, OO, ROM Manager is very well known for bricking our devices....
Oh, and btw seems that you doesnt have a clue on how benefical is to have a properly working zip verification feature and also the plethora of other useful functions TWRP has..
kthnxbye
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statistically, I trust that rating more than you guys' opinion. sorry to tell you the truth.
TWRP, yeah, that's nice. but CWD worked for me, so?
calhotel said:
statistically, I trust that rating more than you guys' opinion. sorry to tell you the truth.
TWRP, yeah, that's nice. but CWD worked for me, so?
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Dude you are not helping.... encouraging users and specially new users to install something that has a high risk to screw and brick ur phone is not a way of helping them, if rom manager worked for you its fine, but maybe for another user it'll break his phone, ROM Manager is an unreliable app and method to use recoveries....... Ohh and btw user can install whatever he wants im just guiding and encouraging him to install the safest and most trustworthy and functional recovery of all, and is TWRP v1.0.3.13b
Have phun when ur volume keys, menu or any other button stops working LOLz
cya
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Dude you are not helping.... encouraging users and specially new users to install something that has a high risk to screw and brick ur phone is not a way of helping them, if rom manager worked for you its fine, but maybe for another user it'll break his phone, ROM Manager is an unreliable app and method to use recoveries....... Ohh and btw user can install whatever he wants im just guiding and encouraging him to install the safest and most trustworthy and functional recovery of all, and is TWRP v1.0.3.13b
cya
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thanks, I think you already scared a lot of ppl off. lol. maybe I will try TWRP one day.
for me, that's fine. I have no axe to grind.
Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay. Couple days ago, i got my new Samsung Galaxy S II. Fell in love with it. I previously had a Vibrant, but that met an unfortunate and violent demise. On the vibrant I hadn't been doing anything involving roms and such because i'd tried once, and completely fried the phone. LOL.
I managed to root my phone, and from what I've read, I didn't do the best method. What I did was get an unsecure kernel, and flashed that, then used a 1-click root type thing to root it. So one of my questions is, my clockwork mod isn't working, what's wrong with it? I downloaded ROM Manager, and flashed CWM. But when i reboot into recovery, i get the stock Samsung recovery screen. How can I get this to work?
And another question, is about roms such as Cyanogen mod. I really wanna get it. (I wont until I get CWM working, though.) And I'm just wondering. If I were to just go to ROM Manager, and flash cyanogen, would it work, or do i need to do more to my phone to be able to put on custom roms? I've never understood the concept of roms vs kernels vs firmware vs whatever else.
And if it matters, Samsung Galaxy S II, Android 2.3.3, rooted using SuperOneClick.
P.S Anything else that I should considering doing/putting onto my phone? And thanks in advance for halping.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Okay, don't take this the wrong way, but it seems you're a bit lacking regarding knowledge about this phone... It'd pay to do your research beforehand in the SGS2 forum, read the FAQs, etc.
Okay, first off, all I can say is, go back to stock. Go flash a stock Samsung ROM for the device. Then, go into Chainfire's CF-Root Kernel thread, and download the appropriate kernel, and flash it using ODIN. After you've done that, you'll have ClockworkMod, and you'll be rooted. It is recommended that you flash another kernel though, after gaining root, as all the CF-Root kernel does it install ClockworkMod, and root the device. Personally, I recommend SiyahKernel.
If you need more detail or have any more questions, feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks,
screamworks.
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
DirkTeur Velserbroncx said:
With a rooted device you'll be able to flash trough Odin or CMW recovery any rom you like.
Siyah kernel gives you a faster and more battery efficient phone and lets you set your own Voltage/ speed the processor has to use see this for the latest info
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263838
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
Gutana said:
Alright, I did what you said. I went to stock 2.3.4, used CF-root. And now about SiyahKernel, what are the advantages of it? And is there something wrong with just staying with the CF-Root kernel?
And as of where I am now, with just root and CWM, would i be able to switch ROMs and such?
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SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
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Alright, so i'm pretty much ready to go? Yayayayay.
And would you recommend any roms for me? XD
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For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
screamworks said:
SiyahKernel has a lot of advantages and improvements of CF-Root, which provides null, if I'm correct. Go check out the SiyahKernel thread in Original Development for details.
Yes, as stated, you can use CWM by itself to switch ROMs. Just remember that if you're switching ROMs (as opposed to performing a flash to a newer version of the same ROM), to perform a factor reset / wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe Dalvik cache (Advanced > wipe Dalvik cache) in ClockworkMod first.
For a beginninger, I can't recommend MIUI highly enough. You could go with GalnetMIUI, which is a variant, but I personally prefer the official MIUI build. If you're looking for a more, 'pure' experience, go with CyanogenMod 7.1 stable.
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Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
Gutana said:
Alright, one more question, sorry for the nooby-ness. Haha.
So going from my phone to for example Cyanogen, I'd backup in CWM, and Titanium backup (Or does CWM backup like, EVERYTHING?) and then factory reset, flash the rom using odin, and then use titanium backup to get my apps and settings back? orwhat.
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CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
screamworks said:
CWM backup (called a NANDroid backup), backs up everything. If you perform a NANDroid back, there's no need to perform a backup in Titanium Backup - it creates a full image of your system (the advantage to TB though, is that you can backup all your download apps and settings, then install the new ROM, and restore the backed up apps - If you restore a NANDdroid backup, it'll restore the old ROM, exactly as it was when the backup was made).
So yes, the installation process is, for CWM: copy the ROM.zip to your phone, then boot into CWM recovery. Hit the 'factory reset / wipe data' option, the 'wipe cache' option, and then go to Advanced, and hit the 'wipe Dalvik cache' option. After that, choose 'install ZIP from SDCARD', and choose your ROM.zip. After it finishes installing, just hit 'reboot system now', and you're good to go!
Usually, it's not required to use ODIN to flash a new ROM, unless there's a problem with the recovery.
All that said, it pays to read the thread for the ROM beforehand, as sometimes when moving from ROM to ROM (especially from stock), there's a few small things that may be required, like flashing the ROM twice, or whatever
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Alright, i got that done. I've tried both MIUI and Cyanogen, and both are working and lookin wonderful. But the problem is I dont get data on either one. I've tried reflashing, rebooting, factory reset. Idunno what else to try. Do you know what could be causing this?
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Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
screamworks said:
Check your APN settings (should be somewhere in Settings under mobile network or whatever). Look your's up online ('APN settings carrier y, country z), and if they're not correct, add them in.
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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Got everything working, thank you very much. Thanked every one of your posts
And I've asked too many questions for one person in one thread, I happen to have one more. How can I get the Android Market on Cyanogenmod? I downloaded build 115, and there wasn't a market, so i'll be using MIUI till I get that fixed. ><
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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You're more than welcome
If you've got any other questions, feel free to PM me
With CyanogenMod, there's a bit of a story to it, but basically, they're not allowed to package Market, Gmail, Maps, etc. with the ROM, so you need to download a zip file called Gapps and flash it in CWM Recovery, you can find it here. You don't need to wipe anything when flashing this.
Also, build #115 isn't the latest, build #117 is (in fact, there's another, even more current one, but there's really nothing to it), but I don't believe there's any major changes.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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Hey, I was having troubles messaging you, since it didn't show anything in the sent box, i assumed it didnt go through. So i guess ill be still asking you on here.
So about Cyanogen, which build is the best? And if i'm going from one build to another, like from 115, to 116, would i still have to do a complete wipe? And any other roms besides MIUI and Cyanogen you recommend? cause MIUI is giving me and couldn't generate md5 errors, and i cant restore to it, and i hate starting off without it set up how i like it. D: and yeah, thanks.
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I only just the message 12 hours ago, if that helps?
Usually, your best bet is to go with the latest build, which you can get here. If it's stability you're looking for, go with the stable build, instead of nightlies.
Personally, out of all ROMs I've tried, I could only ever stand MIUI and CyanogenMod - but even then, MIUI started to annoy me with little things here and there. I think I'll be sticking with CyanogenMod for awhile. So, I'm not really the best authority on that. Just try some different ones, and see what appeals to you the most
I have a rooted I717. I have tried to load multiple ROMs through CWM (ICS_CLC5_Alpha, SAUROM_XLA2_RCVII, etc.). However, I get the same message every time I start the flash: E: short write of tmp sideload package.zip (no space left on device). I have used multiple apps to confirm that the phone is rooted and have over 10gb of data available on the SD card.
I have rooted multiple devices, namely my past Captivate, and never had much of a problem. I've never worked with a device that fights me like this before.
Any advice, suggestions, tutorial, etc. would be greatly appreciate.
(I also found an ICS ROM that load through odin here:
http://www.androidlookout.com/install-cyanogenmod-9-galaxy-note/168/
Can anyone with a trained eye verify if this ROM would be stable on the I717)
Thanks.
It does not sound to be like you have ClockworkMod Recovery installed. Are you sure you are not trying to flash under Android System 3e recovery? Can you post a picture of exactly what you are selecting in recovery to flash?
I don't know how trained my eyes are, but I can assure you, if you flash that ROM you linked it will bork your device. That is for the International note (our phones weren't released yet when the article was written).
Yes that's for the international note.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
Here's a screen shot (I believe this is what you're asking for). It says I'm running Recovery 2.5.1.2.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
Screenshot didn't come through, but I do believe that is the Android System Recovery version. You can only flash custom stuff through the ClockworkMod recovery here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526431
Use Odin to flash that. Then you will be in a blue recovery that will look like this:
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...3fd0/4f7f5e62/9/3/3/4/7/6/20120305_160801.jpg
You can flash your zips from there successfully.
I'll try that tonight. Thanks for the heads-up. The shear number of threads here can be daunting to sort through.
By the way, will I be able to delete unwanted applications after correctly rooting the device without flashing a ROM? (I was able to on past devices. Just curious.)
This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
lucash312 said:
This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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if the op would of followed the guides instructions correctly, he would not of ran into that issue in the first place...
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
You can flash any .zip ROM with CWM. There's no need for ROM Manager. BTW, you can post a link if you uncheck "parse links in text automatically."
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
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all you need to do is boot into cwm recovery via the power menu and flash away. the problem with rom manager on the fascinate is getting into the right recovery...causes more problems than its worth on this device. make sense yet? probably not since you have not been down this road yet, but many of us have. so take the advice given or dont and learn the hard way.
Honestly, I am trying to take the advice given but not all of it fit my situation.
I'm definitely something of a noob to Android (Not to linux or IT though). I've had my phone for all of a month and rooted it only days ago.
It's all starting to come together, finally. It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware, versions of Android, this or that kernel that only works with these ROMs, old/newer versions of those, old posts and advice, newer posts with adjusted advice.. etc.. It's been a week long crash course!
Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
So you see, I was in a catch-22; I needed CWM to flash CWM? Odin was my only option at that point.
Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware
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You are on the Samsung Fascinate. If it is Verizon then it is model number i500. If it doesnt say Fascinate or i500 it isn't for your device and you don't need to worry about it. If you flash something that isn't stated as being for the i500 or VERIZON Fascinate then you will have a lovely new temporary paper weight.
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Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
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You couldn't have followed it to the letter because it is a well known fact that if you boot up with a stock kernel still flashed it will replace your recovery. Droidstyle certainly knows this and certainly accounted for it in his guide. So, you need to either boot directly into CWM or flash a non-stock kernel prior to rebooting the phone.
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Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
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Yeah it sounds like that will work...not the most elegant way to take care of it...but it sounds like it would be okay.
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Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
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We already talked about the kernel situation. Consider Geewiz if you want something thats all-in-one and pretty much impossible to mess up. KGB is good. Leankernel always gave me the best battery life but YMMV.
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I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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He showed no interest in helping the devs here get ROM manager working (again) on the phone. If you gave him money, blame him for not providing the support and resources to get it working on this phone. Some people are umm...."lacking in people skills."
Oh, and as great as the Gingerbread ROMs are...the mtd ICS roms blow them out of the water
Hi guys,
I'm new here. I didn't root my S3 yet, but I want to do it and install new rom. But first I would need your help with Rom choosing, as I'm completely blind in this matter
The thing is, I would prefer a ROM which let me choose which application I want to install on my phone and which not - check/uncheck option. This rom should be FAST and stable.
As I have no experience at all, I would like to ask you which ROM will be the best for me? Btw, it would be great if I can choose language (Polish).
Hope you will help me
Regards,
Karol
edit: sorry for typo in the topic, impossible to change it now
Hi, I am in the same boat. Stock standard international S3, but extremely slow. Ram usage on startup is 700mb.
Which rom would you guys suggest that is both stable (no bugs), and fast (using much less ram).
This is my everyday phone, I take a lot of photos, especially the camera should be functioning perfectly.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Edit: Last time I rooted and played around with these things were about 3-4 years ago with my Sony X10 mini. I am slowly getting back into it, reading up on the latest rooting apps etc.
@errolpl: Search in development subforum for 'aroma installer'. Usually these ROMs offer only system apps to choose. 3rd party user apps you'll have to install by your own. You can edit the header with edit-function.
@demozzracy: If you want full camera suport, I recommend NCS-ROM: based on last JB-firmware, but brilliant debloated. So slim, fast, battery friendly and all hardware working. I'm testing many LP-ROMs, but they are primarily newer, hardly better (for S3).
@rp158: Thank you!
I was extremely new just a few weeks back as well. I must say that my attempts on finding a solution for my slow S3 has been a rather hard and bumpy road.
To help you save some time, here is what I've gathered so far:
Last time I flashed phone firmware, a couple of years ago, it required a PC, a cable and some funky software.
Then when I flashed my S3 for the first time, about a year ago, I started out with Cyanogenmod and used their app+cable installer. I think this is still the easiest way to root the phone, and get started with custom roms. Even if you plan to use some other rom than Cyanogenmod.
When the phone is rooted you can install TWRP, simply done via an app on the appstore. TWRP is recovery firmware that can stay on the phone, even though you flash new roms. (The phone is divided into several separate sections, bootloader, recovery, actual system, and data area.... I don't even know much about it yet.) The important part is that it is extremely easy to flash new roms using this tool, and a micro SD-card.
Simply drop the rom zip file onto the card and flash them. (For some roms you need to flash some "GAPPS" as well. These are the google apps, like the play store etc. If you don't flash them you can't really use the phone for much.)
This is where the real problems start. Finding the right ROM.
The S3 is old, and only supported up to Jelly Bean for my 1GB international version, or Kitkat if you have one of the 2gb versions.
This has not stopped developers in providing both Kitkat and Lollipop to any version of the S3. However... as eager they are to provide the newest coolest features, just as lazy do they seem to be with their testing. (Sorry guys, but someone has to say it.)
So I've gone through some roms now... none of them really good.
The first Official Cyanogenmod I flashed half a year ago. I used this for almost a year.. but the camera would crash constantly, and the phone was not able to display video. For example movieclips on facebook.
Second ROM: Cyanogenmod has also stopped developing for the S3, so a few weeks back I switched to some unofficial version. It seemed to work... camera and video was ok, and everything had the nice Lollipop feel to it.
However MMS did not work. I could receive one and send one, next ones would require a reboot for them to work. The problem was brought up in the ROM Q/A tread, but the answer from the developer was: Sorry I don't use MMS so I don't really see a problem.
Third: Onto some next rom. This one was tagged STABLE. It was far from it. In fact it was even easier to discover that this rom had the same MMS problem. Because the message app would crash immediately when trying to send one.
4th attemt was the same rom, but a different kernel... still the same problem.
5th rom was Blisspop... Wau, this was beautiful! Cool webpage, Cool animations.... it was just too bad that the site is dead, and that the rom can't even run for 24 hours without the android keyboard crashing 25 times or so. Also Blisspop has OTA updates... the only problem is that it constantly says that there is a new version for the S3.. but the download fails. Apparently some bad change to the website caused this, and apparently this problem has been going on for 3 months without anyone bothering to fix it.
6th was Archidroid. The second to top ROM for the S3. It looks cool, and has many features... but just as other Lollipop ROMs, sending MMS's without error is not one of them....
I've really tried everything. People always says that the MMS problems are due to APN's not being set up correctly, doing some reboots etc.... but trust me... I've set them up so many times you wouldn't belive it.
7th. After reading this thread and rp158's recommendation of NCS-ROM I'm now running that one. Without a single thing being set up, I was able to send and receive MMS's right away.
However... now I'm stuck back at the ugly kitkat look, and Touch wiz.
tl;dr;
So what do I want to say with all this?
Get root and TWRP and start playing around with ROMs
Lollipop does not look like an option for the S3, at least not right now
Don't let yourself be fooled by nice webpages or [STABLE]-tags, or comments that say: "I've been running this since yesterday.. it's 100% stable!"
Timusius thanks a lot for that post.
Puts things in perspective.
As I said in my post, I am ok with the KitKat look, as long as it is stable, I am always on call at work, and cant afford constant phone crashes.
I am going to try the root/twrp to NCS rom in the next couple of days
@Timusius thank you for your post. You help me a lot!
S5 Sensation
errolpl said:
Hi guys,
I'm new here. I didn't root my S3 yet, but I want to do it and install new rom. But first I would need your help with Rom choosing, as I'm completely blind in this matter
The thing is, I would prefer a ROM which let me choose which application I want to install on my phone and which not - check/uncheck option. This rom should be FAST and stable.
As I have no experience at all, I would like to ask you which ROM will be the best for me? Btw, it would be great if I can choose language (Polish).
Hope you will help me
Regards,
Karol
edit: sorry for typo in the topic, impossible to change it now
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It's 5 months already that im using S5 Sensation rom for i9300/9305 ( 4.4.4 kitkat). This rom has S5/Note4 features and works great im satisfied. No problems so far, no bugs, etc ^^
It comes with AROMA installer and lets you to choose which apps you want to install and which not.
Cooldato said:
It's 5 months already that im using S5 Sensation rom for i9300/9305 ( 4.4.4 kitkat). This rom has S5/Note4 features and works great im satisfied. No problems so far, no bugs, etc ^^
It comes with AROMA installer and lets you to choose which apps you want to install and which not.
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How you install those rom?
Pixelzack said:
How you install those rom?
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Device must be rooted + newest cwm recovery installed. After that you just download custom rom, move it to ur phone memory/sdcard and flash it throught recovery mode
Cooldato said:
Device must be rooted + newest cwm recovery installed. After that you just download custom rom, move it to ur phone memory/sdcard and flash it throught recovery mode
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My phone already rooted without cwm,can i just install cwm like i did to root my phone?
Pixelzack said:
My phone already rooted without cwm,can i just install cwm like i did to root my phone?
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https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager here is the latest CWM versions for smartphones, but its .img file and u cannt flash it directly from Odin. U need to make .img into .tar.md5 odin flash-able file by some tools, or flash it via adb shell, etc.
Anyway here is Odin rdy .tar file , go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...covery-clockworkmod-touch-6-0-3-2-gt-t1719744 download recovery-cwmtouch-6.0.3.2-GTI9300.tar and flash it via Odin / Download mode.
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https://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager here is the latest CWM versions for smartphones, but its .img file and u cannt flash it directly from Odin. U need to make .img into .tar.md5 odin flash-able file by some tools, or flash it via adb shell, etc.
Anyway here is Odin rdy .tar file , go to this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...covery-clockworkmod-touch-6-0-3-2-gt-t1719744 download recovery-cwmtouch-6.0.3.2-GTI9300.tar and flash it via Odin / Download mode.
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Can I use this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...covery-clockworkmod-touch-6-0-3-2-gt-t1719744
Pixelzack said:
Can I use this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...covery-clockworkmod-touch-6-0-3-2-gt-t1719744
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Sure, thats what i linked you above.
Cooldato said:
Sure, thats what i linked you above.
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Hahaha Thanks dude for helping noob like me
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Hahaha Thanks dude for helping noob like me
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No problem Feel free to poke me if u meet some troubles ^^
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No problem Feel free to poke me if u meet some troubles ^^
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How to install this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/i9300-to-n00t-bring-lte-fun-to-3g-t2886574
just need some detailed guide xD
Pixelzack said:
How to install this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/i9300-to-n00t-bring-lte-fun-to-3g-t2886574
just need some detailed guide xD
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1. Install ClockworkMod(or PhilZ) recovery
2. Put ROM on your SD card
3. Enter recovery mode
4. Perform a full data wipe(except you're running previous versions of back-to-n00t)
5. Flash ROM
6. Flash SuperSU
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1. Install ClockworkMod(or PhilZ) recovery
2. Put ROM on your SD card
3. Enter recovery mode
4. Perform a full data wipe(except you're running previous versions of back-to-n00t)
5. Flash ROM
6. Flash SuperSU
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perform a full data wipe means "Factory reset"?
How to flash rom? It's included in the recovery mode?
How to flash SuperSU?
Pixelzack said:
perform a full data wipe means "Factory reset"?
How to flash rom? It's included in the recovery mode?
How to flash SuperSU?
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yeah this means doing a "Factory reset", must be done throught Recovery mode, wipe data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache.
Put ROM on your SD card, then enter Recovery Mode by pressing Home + Volume UP + Power buttons and ull have smth like:
Install Zip -> Choose Zip from /Storage/Sdcard (External SDcard) , Search for ur ROM file and start flashing :X
Flash the SuperSu .zip file same way as flashing ROM.