http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/...index.shtml?INTCMP=HomeILCC3samsungGalaxySIIX
Which they're calling the "Samsung Galaxy S II X." Whatever that means, blame TELUS.
Anyways, while the specs cover general technical details and not exactly what processor or RAM or anything like that, it seems to have more than the current Galaxy S II in terms of processor speed (1.2 GHz to 1.5 GHz) and screen size (4.5").
However, some of the guys are codenaming it the Hercules, which makes me feel iffy about it, because apparently Samsung is having some sort of fiesta where they're classifying a number of different phones under the Galaxy S II name, even when some of the phones are much crappier.
So here is my question:
- Should I really upgrade to this phone from my current? (Motorola Atrix)
And because this is in General, and because I'm interested in the opinions:
- Discuss/speculate whether this phone would be better or worse than the S II original model, at least until we get official specs.
From what I remember its Qualcomm chipset, even though its higher clock, exynos by samsung is far better. It has larger screen, and Imo... the galaxy s2 4.3 inch screen is already big enough, I wouldnt buy it, and if I was given the chance to switch from s2 to hercules for free I wouldnt do it. + No custom roms for international S2 will work since hercules is completely different phone.
DJ Yoshiman said:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/...index.shtml?INTCMP=HomeILCC3samsungGalaxySIIX
Which they're calling the "Samsung Galaxy S II X." Whatever that means, blame TELUS.
Anyways, while the specs cover general technical details and not exactly what processor or RAM or anything like that, it seems to have more than the current Galaxy S II in terms of processor speed (1.2 GHz to 1.5 GHz) and screen size (4.5").
However, some of the guys are codenaming it the Hercules, which makes me feel iffy about it, because apparently Samsung is having some sort of fiesta where they're classifying a number of different phones under the Galaxy S II name, even when some of the phones are much crappier.
So here is my question:
- Should I really upgrade to this phone from my current? (Motorola Atrix)
And because this is in General, and because I'm interested in the opinions:
- Discuss/speculate whether this phone would be better or worse than the S II original model, at least until we get official specs.
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Specs are out, it's for sure the Qualcomm chipset, which is far inferior (really) to the Exynos in GPU performance, and at 1.5Ghz, it's going to be about the same CPU wise. It's really not that much different than the SoC in the Sensation, just clocked higher, and with a different modem.
The network performance remains to be seen, but on my 21Mbps-capable SGS2, on the Telus network in the GVA, I've never seen higher than 8k down, so I have to wonder if the 42Mbps dual connect modem on the SIIX will actually help...two connections to the network may not be such a big boost if it's still the same slow network.
And yes, it's going to be freaking huge. I came from an SGS1 (with a slight Atrix detour) and find the SGS2 is right at the margin of comfortable size. Not to mention the pixel density reduction, if that matters to you.
The biggest issue beyond being too big and too slow is that it's going to be an XDA development orphan as well.
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From what I remember its Qualcomm chipset, even though its higher clock, exynos by samsung is far better. It has larger screen, and Imo... the galaxy s2 4.3 inch screen is already big enough, I wouldnt buy it, and if I was given the chance to switch from s2 to hercules for free I wouldnt do it. + No custom roms for international S2 will work since hercules is completely different phone.
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Me in the original post said:
And because this is in General, and because I'm interested in the opinions:
- Discuss/speculate whether this phone would be better or worse than the S II original model, at least until we get official specs.
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So thank you for reading my post, moderator.
As for the rest of you, thanks for your insight - good to know these things. I think I'm hooped, since I don't have the money to buy out a SGS II. I suppose if I was rich, I'd get that one instead of upgrading to the Telus-brand model.
Change to Bell and you will get the International model.
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Change to Bell and you will get the International model.
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I'd love to, but I've already got an account on Bell with late charges (for my ex-girlfriend) who doesn't even use it any more - even if I paid off those charges, I apparently wouldn't be able to get an upgrade for another year to 2 years.
EDIT: Plus according to Bell's plans, I would get less than I have right now for about $15 more than what I'm paying with Telus.
Im so stuck right now. I dont want the S2 X but I dont want to switch carriers cause from the looks of it everyone else's plans suck compared to the one I have with Telus right now. I would go with the HTC Amaze but Telus doesnt get that for like another 3 weeks and I need a new phone cause im using a crappy LG Shine Plus with a shattered screen. Ahhh what to do...
A friend of mine got the hercules the other day and did a speed test on it and is getting 12-14 Mbps constantly. I have the bell version rooted and unlocked and can only get 5mbps on a good day. So the dual must be working for it... and for that speed boost I'm thinking it may be worth the upgrade! Any thoughts? I have tried flashing different modems to get higher speeds but Nada.
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Played with the skyrocket today and I gotta admit I'm having a bit of envy, mostly over the screen but also over the shape and the slightly faster processor.
Anyone else having that? The device is huge though which put me off quite a bit.
I guess I'm kind of hoping of being talked out of trading in for one. Is there a legitimate reason to choose the skyrocket over the S2? Aside from screen. I know a root and mods can get me a 1.5 gigahertz processor.
Well the 1.2 Ghz exynos processor is actually faster/better than the Snapdragon 1.5 Ghz. The 4.3" screen size imho is better, at least for me and doesn't look as nerdy The LTE is the only thing that would make me switch but it's not too big a deal yet.
I thought they both used an exynos but the skyrocket was clocked to 1.5 and got an 1800 mAh battery to compensate? I also sort of disregard the lte since I live in an area that will likely not get lte for quite a while.
Nope. Skyrocket got the snapdragon cpu just like the tmobile sgs II did.
The sgs II is a better choice for you, AntwanL Why do I say that?
People don't come to xda for no reason. They want to see what they can 'do' to their phone. And here you are at xda. The sgs II will always have more being done to it than the skyrocket.
If you don't care about modifying android on your phone, then go for a skyrocket. It is a samsung with a dual core phone and 1gb of ram. That's nothing to sneeze at.
A .2 inch bump in screen size and lte, that won't be wide spread for awhile, is not enough for me to get a phone that will have less choices that the alternative, this phone.
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More like Note envy.
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Also look in the skyrocket forums and specifically the developers section and compare it to the SGS2 developers section. Plus what the others have said above. To me it is more important to have developers who make our phones better due to having a international phone that is the same.
The ONLY two phones for the skyrocket are the T-Mobile phone and I THINK the Canadian version of the skyrocket. So the developer support will never be as big.
To see how this works look at the support on the older generation galaxy s phones (captivate, i9000) and compare it to other phones that did not have international phone in common with it. The i9000 and captivate still have a great support of developers even with it being an older generation of the phone.
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shadow65781 said:
More like Note envy.
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Haha, I'm loving my note. All my buddies are work comment on it.
The apple fanboys go "Is that a small Ipad?, it looks like a small Ipad, anything bigger than an ishitPhone is too big"
Good times...
Anyways op....
The skyrocket is inferior in every single way Hardware wise. At&t also throttles you much faster on LTE than on HSPA+
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the GS2 is as fast as the skyrocket, despite having a lower clock speed. The reason is the superior GS2 processor. Also, the GPU on the GS2 is superior, so despite similar speed, graphics are much better (and not choppy) on the GS2 than the skyrocket. The skyrocket will never be as hackable as the GS2, and so it will always be difficult or impossible to overclock it much. Despite the GS2 being of similar speed with a 1.2ghz processor, compared to the skyrocket's 1.5ghz processor, I am already overclocking my GS2 to 1.6 ghz and haven't had any stability issues at all. CM7 has the 1.6 ghz overclock feature already baked into the rom, so you don't need to flash a separate custom kernel.
I was going to originally get the skyrocket, but decided to go with the GS2 instead. The processor and GPU superior (and overclocked is much faster than the skyrocket will ever be capable of). Also, the resolution is better and it is very hackable. The only skyrocket advantage is LTE (I went with GS2 despite living in an LTE area and having unlimited data) but this is only a minor advantage. You use the processor all the time, but the data plan only sometimes, and LTE simply means somewhat shorter wait times for downloading.
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-snip-Also, the resolution is better and it is very hackable. -snip-
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the resolution is the exact same....and just as hackable...
So currently sporting the SGS2 with UnNamed 1.3.1 and really love it. Cured all Skyrocket envy
AntwanL said:
So currently sporting the SGS2 with UnNamed 1.3.1 and really love it. Cured all Skyrocket envy
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If you ever think you wished you went with the skyrocket, check out their dev section, or rather lack thereof. Then for icing on the cake look through the q&a section.
I just got done looking though it for a friend who was having the 100% battery problem, and all I can say is wow. Largest collection of new android users that have no idea how to use any android phone.
Not trying to be mean but there's some serious education that needs to go on over there for any large scale progress to be made (cm7 cm9 or miui, much less stock roms). For their sake I hope it happens.
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No envy here....Sure the screen is larger and it has LTE. However, I dont live in a area that is likely to see LTE for quite some time and the screen in note a selling point for me only being bigger.
I will wait a year or so to see what the market has at that time. I cant afford to purchase the latest and greatest every few months when a new device with 512mb more memory comes out etc....lol
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If you ever think you wished you went with the skyrocket, check out their dev section, or rather lack thereof. Then for icing on the cake look through the q&a section.
I just got done looking though it for a friend who was having the 100% battery problem, and all I can say is wow. Largest collection of new android users that have no idea how to use any android phone.
Not trying to be mean but there's some serious education that needs to go on over there for any large scale progress to be made (cm7 cm9 or miui, much less stock roms). For their sake I hope it happens.
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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I salute you in your efforts. For the next week or so I'm recovery from surgery on a pilonidal cyst - yeah buddy - I'll see what help I can be over there as far as general android education goes, a week may be all I can handle.
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I just returned my Skyrocket for an original SGS2. I live in an area with LTE (Dallas) and while it was neat, I never felt like it was useful. I just visit webpages and use the navigator and things like that. Even streaming YT videos wasn't much faster....not worth much more than running speed tests and going LOLWTF LOOK AT HOW FAST THIS IS......yeah it's pretty awesome but unless you tether or something, meh. It just never felt any faster than my girlfriend's SGS2.
The battery life was bad (LTE radio + 4.5 inch screen + the slightly faster clocked (but slower overall) CPU overtook the small bump in mAh), reception was bad (I'd have 1-2 bars most of the time for LTE and it would switch back and forth from 4G to LTE all day), and the aftermarket support (physical and developmental) is very lacking of course.
I prefer the SGS2 over the Skyrocket.
Also, I don't forsee CM or MIUI to EVER be on the skyrocket, since it's not an international phone. Very small userbase.
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this.
my skyrocket will be in my hands soon, but damn, i dread some of the goings on over there....
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Even worse than the Infuse forums?
Edit: Great link in your sig to kang.
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Even worse than the Infuse forums?
Edit: Great link in your sig to kang.
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i never got an infuse, so i dont know what its like over there.
kang away!...lol. i love that post
AntwanL said:
Played with the skyrocket today and I gotta admit I'm having a bit of envy, mostly over the screen but also over the shape and the slightly faster processor.
Anyone else having that? The device is huge though which put me off quite a bit.
I guess I'm kind of hoping of being talked out of trading in for one. Is there a legitimate reason to choose the skyrocket over the S2? Aside from screen. I know a root and mods can get me a 1.5 gigahertz processor.
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Go with the SGSII not the Skyrocket cause... who wants a phone called the "Skyrocket".
I had the same internal debate and ended up with my AT&T SGSII pretty much for all the reason everyone else is giving. Major players for me were the size, processor type and well the name? haha
Peace!
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Go with the SGSII not the Skyrocket cause... who wants a phone called the "Skyrocket".
I had the same internal debate and ended up with my AT&T SGSII pretty much for all the reason everyone else is giving. Major players for me were the size, processor type and well the name? haha
Peace!
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Lol
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the resolution is the exact same....and just as hackable...
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The number of pixels is the same, though the SR's screen is bigger so the resolution is worse. It is not nearly as hackable, because the only similar device is T-Mobile's GS2. The international GS2 is similar to AT&T's GS2 so there will always be much more hacking going on with it than the SR.
(See what I did there.)
This post is an attempt to make sure I understand the difference between the "European" version of the Note (the N7000) and the "American" version of the Note (the i717). I've ordered an i717, which they tell me will arrive on the 7th, but I know there are two versions and they're not... quite... the same.
Based on what I've reasearched so far, these are the differences:
N7000
The N7000 has a dual core processor that is numerically slower (1.4ghz dual core vs 1.5ghz dual core for the i717) but actually clocks faster in tests. Owners of the N7000 claim performance is generally smoother, but...
... that may be because the N7000 also doesn't have bloatware.
The N7000 has also, at this point, been upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich, unless...
... you're in the US, where everyone reports the ICS upgrade fails, because it's not being pushed through US networks. You have to apparently connect to a European network to get it...
... and flashing an ICS ROM is also problematic, because there's an incompatibility in the processor that causes a lot of roms to overwrite parts of the phone it shouldn't overwrite, resulting in a brick.
The N7000 is physically different from the i717 as well. It has a physical "home" button below the screen, which also doubles as the unlock button.
The N7000 also lacks an antenna that the i717 has, which allows the i717 to receive FM radio stations. [EDIT: Comment #2 has pointed out that this is wrong--the N7000 can receive FM, the i717 cannot.]
Finally, the N7000 has a slightly more powerful battery than the i717.
i717
The i717 has a numerically faster processor (1.5ghz dual core) but seems to clock in slower on tests. It is also loaded to the gills with a number of AT&T "enhancements" that may be degrading performance.
The main reason the i717 has a different processor is to support LTE. The i717 supports LTE on AT&T. (the N7000, which can work on AT&T If you put a SIM card in it, will not support LTE.) However, it does not appear to support anything more than 2G on TMobile without some serious configuration.
The i717 does not have the "home" button below the screen. The power button (on the right side of the phone) can be used to unlock the screen.
Some places I've browsed through claims the i717 camera is better than the N7000s. One side by side comparison even claimed that the i717 had continuous autofocus while the N7000 did not. I haven't seen this verified anywhere else.
The i717 doesn't appear to have the same problem with ROMs that the N7000 has. At least, there is no urgent notice in the General and Q&A forums for the i717 warning that a number of ICS ROMS will trigger a bug in the processor that will overwrite things it shouldn't and brick your phone, and I figure most of you guys would have noticed that.
The i717 will get ICS. At some point. As soon as Samsung finishes AT&Ting it. Nobody knows when, but someone said something about July. Once that happens, the source will be available, and ROMs can start incorporating fun things like processor overclocking and other kernel optimizations.
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Both the N7000 and the i717 are power hungry beasts, mostly because they have gorgeous, power-hungry, Super AMOLED screens that are freaking huge. Standby battery time for the Note is great. The problem is when you actually try to use it as a smartphone...
Thus, extended batteries become very attractive accessories, as long as you ignore that they are mostly ugly and incompatible with some of the really cool brushed metal cases I've seen pictures of in the forums. Apparently you can get an extended battery for $15, which I didn't discover until after I bought my Mugen. I'm paying an extra $85 for a kickstand. Still, it's a shiny kickstand.
The N7000 and the i717 have a counter that keeps track of how many times you flash your phone. The current working theory is this counter is used to determine if you're a dirty stinking hacker who has voided his or her warranty. To date I haven't seen any reports of people who have been refused support or had their warranty voided because of this thing, but it's there.
Both phones are described as "huge" by the press, but they're actually smaller than the cellphones we had back in the early 90s. The press is full of silly people.
Regardless of whether you buy an N7000 or an i717, someone at Gizmodo puts you on an enemies list.
That is, in summary, everything I've been able to find about both phones. Did I miss anything/get anything wrong?
You got one thing backwards. The I717 is the one that lacks the FM radio functionality, while the N7000 has it.
The processors are not just running at different clocks, they are totally different architectures. The N7000 has a dual core Exynos made internally by Samsung. It is paired with a beastly ARM Mali 400 GPU. To support LTE, the I717 has put in a dual core Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 , paired with a more pedestrian Adreno 220. While the N7000 processor and GPU are more advanced in theory, in real life, both phones are more than capable performers. The LTE network speeds of I717 however run circles around N7000, and the fallback HSPA+ speed is no slouch. It basically boils down to network speed versus raw CPU/GPU performance numbers. If I was you, I would choose the faster network, because the Galaxy S III and HTC One X already have eclipsed the SOC of N7000, which is just a Galaxy S II on the inside, and in a year or two, those numbers will also be beaten. The I717 LTE speed is still on par with the best phones out there, and will be so for years to come.
Battery life, screen quality, software, etc., are about the same. The bloatware in the I717 is not really a performance killer, and stripping it away only requires root and a little know how.
Thanks for the correction.
I don't think I'll have any problems with the i717, but I'm paying an extra $100 for speed I can't use. There's no LTE in Clarksburg, WV, and I expect I'll grow old and die before it ever gets here. For the most part I find 3G network speeds more than acceptable for browsing the internet and downloading the occasional podcast. I'm also a bit concerned about the amount of battery drain will be caused by the phone searching for LTE. When I was on Sprint my Evo would constantly try to create a 4g connection until I turned 4g off.
i own the n7000 model and just picked up the i717 today. Im very surprised at how responsive this phone is how cool it runs on stock GIngerbread v. The n7000
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No lte but u might may still get 3.5g. Its not the fastest. But still a lot faster then 2g and 3g
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Read the reviews of the I717. Most state that the battery life of the phone while on LTE radio is surprisingly good, and almost the same as the N7000. The Evo had a bug causing excessive battery drain. The I717 suffers from no such issues, either on or off LTE. The 2100 mAh battery is plenty big enough to go all day with normal usage pattern.
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i own the n7000 model and just picked up the i717 today. Im very surprised at how responsive this phone is how cool it runs on stock GIngerbread v. The n7000
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Flash ICS on it. I find it even better. I am on stock LE2 ROM with root and deleted bloat. Currently at 329 hours up time, and still no lag
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Flash ICS on it. I find it even better. I am on stock LE2 ROM with root and deleted bloat. Currently at 329 hours up time, and still no lag
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awesome thanks for the recommendation.
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The Infuse's lag has been brutal from day one. I even swapped the phone out after three months because I thought I had bad hardware.
It's just simply too slow.
I'm going to pick up a used I777 or I727 and I'd like to know which you prefer. I know this is the I777 forum, but if you have experience with both, and were upgrading from the Infuse, what might you pick?
I'm in Chicago which has LTE. Curious if the hardware differences between the two are enough to notice in general performance. Would like to run custom JB roms without it lagging. Infuse lags like you wouldn't believe.
So, if you were me, what would you buy and why?
Oh, I'm not doing the III because my contract isn't up for another year and might as well wait for the IV to come out by then.
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your opinions!!!
The consensus is that the i777 is smoother than the i727, but the i727 have the edge on data connectivity, of course. Some say that the difference is noticeable, some say it isn't. In my case, i was able to use a friend's i727, and i thought that both phones where smooth enough, but the i727 drains more battery, because of the larger screen + 4g data. That was totally noticeable.
If LTE is a must for you, and I mean a MUST, then go for the skyrocket. The specs are marginally better for the i777, as you might already know. The i777 doesn't have LTE, leaving you with H+. So I would say this, go i777 if you want performance/superior hardware and development. If you want LTE, that is the only advantage that the skyrocket (i727) has over the i777.
Edit: As a side note, the i777 has an Exynos processor. I'm not sure if you have read up on this stuff but Samsung has documentation and source issues, meaning that lots of things won't work 100% or will take time to patch. I believe Skyrocket has a Snapdragon S3? I'm not sure about what is working with them or not but for i777 we have issues with the hw composer and audio. You can read more about this in various threads in out forum.
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If LTE is a must for you, and I mean a MUST, then go for the skyrocket. The specs are marginally better for the i777, as you might already know. The i777 doesn't have LTE, leaving you with H+. So I would say this, go i777 if you want performance/superior hardware and development. If you want LTE, that is the only advantage that the skyrocket (i727) has over the i777.
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Oh, thats true too. Development is way more active on the i777. Forgot that point.
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OP I had an Infuse and got the i777 and couldn't be happier. Also +1 to all posts above me. Unless u want LTE then i777 is for u
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the only thing the i727 has going for it is LTE and a slightly larger screen
I've used both the i777 and i727 and the speed differences are generally the same. Never noticed lagginess on the i727, the chip on i777 is better but daily use the Skyrocket is a solid phone not to mention a bigger screen. I'd say go for the i727, not to mention JB should be further along for it than for the Exynos based phones
After more research, i found that most people tend to say that the i777 has a more powerfull chipset, and that you will notice it when playing intensive 3D games or using 3D animations, maybe flash content, but for daily task, like texting, calls, browsing (Maybe you will notice a little difference here too), reading and stuff like that, both phones are pretty much the same.
I think chipset matters very little with higher-end phones these days. Software optimization is what is key. Before I had my i777, I had an LG Thrill 4g. The chipset on that phone is much weaker than the i777 according to all benchmarks. But I noticed that phone ran games at a higher frame rate than the i777 does. I'd say choose between greater dev support, which can mean having all sorts of cool features (i777) or bigger screen and LTE (i727).
Hello..
I have zeroed in on the Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 phone as my next upgrade and would like to get it off US Ebay. (Basically a mint pre owned piece.)
I am from India and hence i have few queries.
1) Is there any chance the Exynos chipset might not be present in any random Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 ?
I remember its counterpart phone in India also had an alternate version. Hence want to confirm.
2) What's the scenario regarding the service carrier maligning issue? I heard about it few weeks back.. no idea about current scene.
I am basically looking for the US counterpart of SAMSUNG I9100 GALAXY S II, which was released here in India.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4130
Pls do excuse me if i missed out on threads regarding above posted question..
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Hello..
I have zeroed in on the Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 phone as my next upgrade and would like to get it off US Ebay. (Basically a mint pre owned piece.)
I am from India and hence i have few queries.
1) Is there any chance the Exynos chipset might not be present in any random Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 ?
I remember its counterpart phone in India also had an alternate version. Hence want to confirm.
2) What's the scenario regarding the service carrier maligning issue? I heard about it few weeks back.. no idea about current scene.
I am basically looking for the US counterpart of SAMSUNG I9100 GALAXY S II, which was released here in India.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4130
Pls do excuse me if i missed out on threads regarding above posted question..
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I'm not sure why you want the us version of a phone when you're in India.
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I'm not sure why you want the us version of a phone when you're in India.
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I prefer the i777's Design.
Nick281051 said:
I'm not sure why you want the us version of a phone when you're in India.
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Answer his question or don't respond.
1. If it doesn't have exynos chipset, then it's not an I777
2. Talk to your local carrier, we can't provide you this information
If you find out the other information and decide the I777 will in your area, I'd wait a few weeks. The used prices will probably go lower with the Nexus 4 release.
@jthatch12
Thing is, this phone was never released in my country. So i can only glean as much info possible via user response, regarding the gen scenario on the whole. Hence i asked
I ll try to seek the second query's response by more efficient / diligent searching.
Thanks for the part 1 of the reply.
@Sledutah
Yea, i plan to purchase ~next month. Hence getting all the info by that time.
Maybe the pricing will also come down by a bit. Let's see.
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@Sledutah
Yea, i plan to purchase ~next month. Hence getting all the info by that time.
Maybe the pricing will also come down by a bit. Let's see.
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If you're going to spend ~$250 for a phone, why not just spend a little bit more and get the state-of-the-art Nexus 4?
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mattdm said:
If you're going to spend ~$250 for a phone, why not just spend a little bit more and get the state-of-the-art Nexus 4?
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I honestly did gave it a serious thought.. but:
1) LG brand is holding me back.
2) Limited storage/No mem card slot (something which does irks me)
3) It ll be glass on both sides. More chances of the compulsion to use it in a case.
4) I am not too big a fan of massive screens.. (barely convinced myself to go wee bit beyond the 4inch real estate)
India uses GSM so it'll definitely work with your carrier, I'm from Kenya and I used the phone without any issues, only thing is when you do get the phone you'll have to downgrade it to Gingerbread in order for sim unlock tools downloadable from play store to actually work, as most that are sold are. Also AOSP is full of issues if you plan on flashing CM10/AOKP but Samsung ROMS should perform beautifully and with expected 4.1 its a good buy, though I sold mine for Nexus 4
spacescreamer said:
Hello..
I have zeroed in on the Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 phone as my next upgrade and would like to get it off US Ebay. (Basically a mint pre owned piece.)
I am from India and hence i have few queries.
1) Is there any chance the Exynos chipset might not be present in any random Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 ?
I remember its counterpart phone in India also had an alternate version. Hence want to confirm.
2) What's the scenario regarding the service carrier maligning issue? I heard about it few weeks back.. no idea about current scene.
I am basically looking for the US counterpart of SAMSUNG I9100 GALAXY S II, which was released here in India.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4130
Pls do excuse me if i missed out on threads regarding above posted question..
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You already got many responses from others, I just chip in a bit.
1. If it's legitimated product made for AT&T, then it is, would be, have to be Exynos.
As for the counterfeit part? Seriously, nobody know. We just simply cannot check.
2. Depends on your end, if it has GSM network then it would work, however, depends on the frequency they operate, you might only get 3G speed and not take full advantage of the 4G (H+) one.
@votinh
err.. no counterfeiting thing.. i mentioned counterpart
Thank you for the other valuable info in your post.
We have two versions of S2 floating in India. One has the Exynos chipset, the other ( i9100G) seems to be having a slightly inferior SOC.
While purchasing here, one can be aware of the model no for both G as well as non-G with due diligence and adequate research regarding the stickers on the box mentioning the details. The G model does have a noticeably weaker GPU in the form of SGX 540.
I got concerned after hearing that the model i9100G does not have too much love from the development community simply because it is not available widely & in most territories (it probably is only available in asia pacific countries only)
To ask another query.. and this might be vague..
What's the future of the S2 phone.. both in terms of official and custom ROM releases..?
It surely has the firepower under the hood to go some decent distance i think.. but with all these quad core based phones now making an appearance.. will the official rom be made to order for advanced configurations..??
spacescreamer said:
@votinh
err.. no counterfeiting thing.. i mentioned counterpart
Thank you for the other valuable info in your post.
We have two versions of S2 floating in India. One has the Exynos chipset, the other ( i9100G) seems to be having a slightly inferior SOC.
While purchasing here, one can be aware of the model no for both G as well as non-G with due diligence and adequate research regarding the stickers on the box mentioning the details. The G model does have a noticeably weaker GPU in the form of SGX 540.
I got concerned after hearing that the model i9100G does not have too much love from the development community simply because it is not available widely & in most territories (it probably is only available in asia pacific countries only)
To ask another query.. and this might be vague..
What's the future of the S2 phone.. both in terms of official and custom ROM releases..?
It surely has the firepower under the hood to go some decent distance i think.. but with all these quad core based phones now making an appearance.. will the official rom be made to order for advanced configurations..??
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Seems to me, the S2 is on its way out, if it hasn't already been officially discontinued. If I were buying a new phone, I would get the most recent model possible, because the rate at which new models are introduced.
Also, what is your discomfort with LG?
Honestly the Nexus 4 is a scrub phone compared to the i777
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something worth taking note... is the i777 can take a serious beating. much more than any other phone i have come in contact with. it will scar and mar. the metal band will take on some serious gashes and the screen will stay unharmed. it is the only reason i still have this phone and have not upgraded.
that being said... if speed is what you want, buy something else. this is 2010 tech after all.
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
No. Why would you buy a phone that's been out for two yrs ? Get an S3 or S4 if you want a Samsung phone.
Galaxy Nexus may fit your needs..
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MistahBungle said:
No. Why would you buy a phone that's been out for two yrs ? Get an S3 or S4 if you want a Samsung phone.
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Because I don't care how long the phone has been out, but how well it suits my needs.
Plus, S3 and S4 are surely more expensive.
Personally, between S2, S3 and S4, I would recommend the S3. (Although it wouldn't fit the budget, unless there are some offers!)
Mainly because it is relatively newer and you can expect new Android upgrades from Samsung (at least KLP) for it. Samsung has already announced that 4.2.2 will be the last update for S2, according to samfirmware. And with so many (mainly, codeworkx) developers not showing much love for Samsung devices of late, I am sure it would take that much longer to get custom ROMs updates.
If you do decide on S2, it is a really good device!! Great build, great design etc. But I suggest you buy the OMAP variants (i9100G), as it has better support from development community. Owing mainly to TI playing nice compared to Samsung (Exynos).
Several developers are not happy with Samsung's support for Exynos devices and Samsung's lack of support for the dev community of late. For me, this is a major concern.
Why are you advising the guy to get the g variant?.There was almost a riot in your country a year ago when suppliers were giving out g variant models instead of the plain gti9100 model.
If you want then buy a Nexus 7
Nexus has a huge development community and is also in ur price range
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arnabbiswasalsodeep said:
If you want then buy a Nexus 7
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Why would I buy a tablet when I need a phone?
Samsung Galaxy S2 is still a powerful device even beat some newest devices (of course not high-end ones) but it's still can go well with mid-range devices.
Get S2 or S4.....I (personally) don't like the S3.The big thing is,that S4 hasn't a big developent support,since it's a new phone.Galaxy S2 has still a big support...I still see new ROMs and updates every day or week.And it is fast,no matter what people say...get the setup as in my sig...my phone was never faster.
So S2 looks interesting, but this is what I have been told about regarding its screen:
I also considered s2 but there's one serious setback to it. Namely, the screen is amoled and without pentile matrix.
What's bad about it you ask? pixels that are frequently used lose color and items that you have on screen for most time are somewhat paler than the rest of the screen, and you can see their shadow for the whole time, ppl reported that with all amoled displays and non pentile of s2 is even more susceptible to that. That happens even to devices 3 months old, depending on how heavily they are used I guess. You can google it to see for yourself, just type galaxy s2 amoled burn in. There are also few good YouTube vids showing that. Items that you usually can see are burned in status bar, soft keys from your most used app, keyboard, alarm icon and "fully charged" sign across the screen as during night charging the phone lights up when battery is full and keeps the screen on until you turn it off or unplug it/on some ROMs at least, stock including/.
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Do you guys have any comments on that? Is it that bad and common as it sounds? On my 3 year old Desire I see nothing like it happening.
theunderling said:
Why are you advising the guy to get the g variant?
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Oh, if I wasn't clear: Right now I would prefer to use an S3. But if I had a fixed budget and decided on S2, I would by the G variant. -- This is what I meant.
Honestly, I thought those 'riots' were because Samsung decided to slip in the G variant very slyly. No intimation of any sort to the buyers.
I have read about the lower bechmarks on i9100G etc. Any other difference that goes against the i9100G? (Sorry that I am hijacking the thread, just wanted to know)
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impactor said:
Do you guys have any comments on that? Is it that bad and common as it sounds? On my 3 year old Desire I see nothing like it happening.
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I have been using my S2 for more than two years now. I haven't noticed this burn in. (And, hopefully I don't. )
I tried looking for it right now, and...nope, nothing like it.
deadmetaphor said:
Oh, if I wasn't clear: Right now I would prefer to use an S3. But if I had a fixed budget and decided on S2, I would by the G variant. -- This is what I meant.
Honestly, I thought those 'riots' were because Samsung decided to slip in the G variant very slyly. No intimation of any sort to the buyers.
I have read about the lower bechmarks on i9100G etc. Any other difference that goes against the i9100G? (Sorry that I am hijacking the thread, just wanted to know)
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The g has a lot less development than the plain gti9100,unless something changed on here in the last 2 months.And the models are based on regions(supposedly).
Theres a wiki page that lists the models and explains a bit about them,so he can look at that and see what options are best for France.
I think the lte variant is the best,but maybe its for other regions of the world.
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The g has a lot less development than the plain gti9100,unless something changed on here in the last 2 months.
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Seeing that the G has a stable CM release and the default perpetually being restricted to only nightlies, I had assumed otherwise.
Thanks!!
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
By the way, are there some roms for S2 that allow changing software DPI? I have seen ParanoidAndroid on Desire can do that, but apart from this ROM, I haven't seen it anywhere else.
impactor said:
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
By the way, are there some roms for S2 that allow changing software DPI? I have seen ParanoidAndroid on Desire can do that, but apart from this ROM, I haven't seen it anywhere else.
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i prefer the s2 display to my brother's s3 and my friends' s4 and xperia z personally
as to dpi, yes: slim, and rootbox do, and others may that i don't know of
p.s. i love my s2, so fast, and battery lasts soooo long , however if you're paying more than 200 usd it's not worth it