SO who's gonna be upgrading to the Amaze 4G ??
I wouldn't mind.. but will wait a little. Still like my MYTOUCH 4G. Just upset with t-mobile service.. highly disappointed.
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In order for me to purchase another device it has to be rooted with s off already accomplished. I love the mt4g way to much right now.
Nah, even if it was rooted. Even though the specs are a little bit better than the Sensation I'd still rather get the Sensation because all of the good devs already jumped to the Sensation.
I'd be surprised if a lot of devs went to the Amaze. Probably going to be a similar situation with the SGS4G when all of the devs were already on the Vibrant, no point in getting the SGS4G.
Good phone though, just wish that's what HTC did with the Sensation. The 1GB of RAM and better camera is nice.
Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
ill prolly pick it up, but not when it first comes out. i love my phone but id like to have something with a little bigger screen and soft keys
The device just looks so damn good though. I'm thinking about it hard.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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Weight ain't an issue for me. Weight will make it feel even sturdier.
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I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
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I guess everyone has their preferences. For me, a heavy phone has additional associated costs in terms of the jeans pockets that will get worn out!
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Then wear dickies...kidding lol.
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I hope the reported weight is wrong.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4097&idPhone2=3922
Sensation is only 148 g, but Amaze/Ruby is 172.9 g?? Seems unwieldy.
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Could be due to the extra 210mA's in the Amaze's battery?
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Nope. The specs are all that. I'd need more to make me jump to a new phone.
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+1
Specs isn't the only important thing....The G2X had good HW, but had some hw flaws like bleeding among other things.
Personally, this close to the launch of Ice Cream Sandwich, I'd be inclined to wait until HTC's first ICS phone. Or until CM8 has a stable release for a device of choice
I'm gonna wait for the nexus prime.
cray.
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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i don't think there will be a CM8 as the developer of cyanogenmod has gone to work at Samsung.
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Steve still works with CM, it's just a separate project now, it may have less work from cyan himself. However you can't forget that CM has a large amount of devs, Cyan has help from others so I doubt they would actually allow CM brand to die off like this.
Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Well perhaps working at Sammy will give Steve a chance to make sure ICS reaches other their other phones quickly
Considering that CM just announced it would support 10 new Sony Ericsson devices, I take that as a sign that we won't see CM winding down anytime soon.
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Since Steve works with Sammy now I'm thinking that he could be learning new or different tweaks, Sammy should have some sort of ICS access (Sammy should have it by now) depending on his job position; so maybe he can work on CM8 slightly earlier. Personally I'm not to thrilled about ICS, after seeing that NexusS w/ "ICS"....It looked nothing like I thought, I figured Google would step it up to fend off iOS5/WP7.5(Mango). But it doesn't seem like much of a UI overhaul, but I'm sure the usability/features have been significantly changed.
I've been sitting on an upgrade since last month so I'm going to use in on the Amaze, even though I was planning to use it on the Sensation.
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Motorola really needs to hurry up and release the source for the Photon!!! The lack of kernel/ROM development is really frustrating and I really want to put my rooted Photon through the paces!
Yes honda i know exactly what you mean. I'm hoping they release the source very soon I'm suffering from not being able to flash anything, I blame it on my og Evo
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I think it is happening some time this week. The first time I have ever hoped that a guy would show me his packages!
http://sourceforge.net/motorola/discussion/general_comments/thread/0162c299/
-DJ
Same here. My 3D is still sitting on my desk, it is calling me but I am fighting the urge to go back!
It's tough, guys, especially with the beast of a phone that Sprint will be getting soon (SGSII), which you know will have mad support here in XDA. I will probably end up giving the Photon to my son and getting the SGSII instead.
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It's tough, guys, especially with the beast of a phone that Sprint will be getting soon (SGSII), which you know will have mad support here in XDA. I will probably end up giving the Photon to my son and getting the SGSII instead.
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I don't know man, I looked at that thing, I don't think I would trade it up to be honest. We will have kernel love here really soon, I can feel it. That SGSII doesn't seem very cool looking to me and I don't think I can go back to Samsung. I used to have the Eternity, the almost a smartphone but not quite. If I go to anything it won't be until 2012 when we get the HTC Kingdom or something of that nature. Can't see myself going to the SGSII, but who knows, if it has mad support and the hardware is comparable to the Photon, meaning performance and real numbers wise then its a possibility.
But I'm still not giving up on the Photon.
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I am feeling the itch too but then I step back and think about it, what is wrong with the current function of my phone then I draw a big blank. Granted I would love to push more performance to future proof but really can't see a whole lot of need to go beyond root for the immediate future.
If you are comparing the development scene to the original EVO I don't think that anything will ever compare. It was so far ahead of its time people swarmed to it. The GS2 looks great on paper (he'll it looks good in the leaked photos) but samsung has let me down with firmware (example EPIC). I can totally relate though I would love to see some CM7/MIUI on here.
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As far as performance, the Exynos runs circles around the Photon... As for firmware updates, that's what we have XDA for. I am going to wait till it's released and see how it feels. I'm loving my Photon, don't get me wrong, but I've always been a tinkerer and I sort of go with the flow sort of speak. I guess I was spoiled with how the OG EVO development took off... Let's see how it goes with the Photon while we wait for the SGS2 to be released.
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As far as performance, the Exynos runs circles around the Photon... As for firmware updates, that's what we have XDA for. I am going to wait till it's released and see how it feels. I'm loving my Photon, don't get me wrong, but I've always been a tinkerer and I sort of go with the flow sort of speak. I guess I was spoiled with how the OG EVO development took off... Let's see how it goes with the Photon while we wait for the SGS2 to be released.
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I am going to try and get a theme up and running... thats the only thing I can help with thusfar lol
I'm thinking of getting the sgs 2 but Samsung kills me with updates. I don't know if it would be worth it.
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I'm thinking of getting the sgs 2 but Samsung kills me with updates. I don't know if it would be worth it.
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Ya the Epic is still waiting for gingerbread release.
I know, that's why I got rid of it after a month. Went to the evo and got spoiled.
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As far as performance, the Exynos runs circles around the Photon... As for firmware updates, that's what we have XDA for. I am going to wait till it's released and see how it feels. I'm loving my Photon, don't get me wrong, but I've always been a tinkerer and I sort of go with the flow sort of speak. I guess I was spoiled with how the OG EVO development took off... Let's see how it goes with the Photon while we wait for the SGS2 to be released.
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I don't think anything runs circles around the Photon, I think the Photon is the one running circles. As far as real numbers, that is true. If not please link me some information. That SGS2 will not beat the Photon, sorry but I am an avid overclocker with PC's and I know that if this phone out of the box out performs any phone on the market right now, its just going to get severely better with custom kernels. I personally can't wait now that we have release.
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The exynos processor of the sgs2 is leaps and bounds better. Hands down. Sammy support is balls though. And terrible radios.
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The exynos processor of the sgs2 is leaps and bounds better. Hands down. Sammy support is balls though. And terrible radios.
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+1 samsung epic ex-owner here, phone had great specs and potential, lack of support shunned me away
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The exynos processor of the sgs2 is leaps and bounds better. Hands down. Sammy support is balls though. And terrible radios.
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+1 samsung epic ex-owner here, phone had great specs and potential, lack of support shunned me away
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But to be honest, if you are a member of XDA, it means that you very well know how XDA devs support dozens of phones and we don't depend on updates from the manufacturers as long as they release the source code. As long as XDA devs support the SGS2, I couldn't care less if Samsung updates it or not.
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But to be honest, if you are a member of XDA, it means that you very well know how XDA devs support dozens of phones and we don't depend on updates from the manufacturers as long as they release the source code. As long as XDA devs support the SGS2, I couldn't care less if Samsung updates it or not.
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Thank you!
I don't understand why people are so concerned with sammys support when we're all going to flash ROMs as soon as possible...
As far as benchmarks:
anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
They seem to be pretty evenly matched. I would side with tegra because its more well established with greater dev support but I've not really seen that to be the case... yet. Outside of Tegrazone anyway
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Thank you!
I don't understand why people are so concerned with sammys support when we're all going to flash ROMs as soon as possible...
As far as benchmarks:
anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
They seem to be pretty evenly matched. I would side with tegra because its more well established with greater dev support but I've not really seen that to be the case... yet. Outside of Tegrazone anyway
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Sammy updates are still kind of important. Look at the epic with the gps issues. That phone had a crippled gps until it was updated. Not saying that the sg2 will have those issues, just stating that there are some things that not even our devs can fix.
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But to be honest, if you are a member of XDA, it means that you very well know how XDA devs support dozens of phones and we don't depend on updates from the manufacturers as long as they release the source code. As long as XDA devs support the SGS2, I couldn't care less if Samsung updates it or not.
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Because with the samsung epic, gb was never officially released so no kernel source code. So devs can't do much other than tweaks. No cm6 no cm7, just leaks after leaks.
I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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Go for the sensation. I have a galaxy s two and the amaze and the dev community is almost non existent. Had a sensation and they got lots of stuff over there.
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Hello, I am new to the forum but do have the HTC Amaze 4G. While HTC does provide the tools for unlocking the bootloader, they do not allow for S-OFF (Security OFF). And it is because of this (for the most part) that developing for the HTC Amaze is limited ATM.
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I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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the amaze is not for u then.
mrmylanman said:
I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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Temp - hopefully.
Dev support - we only have one developer that actually has the phone. To top it off he's only 16 and still in high school.
We have the source but not the entire kernel source (thanks to HTC and their technicalities)
Still don't have s-off so we can't flash kernels via recovery thus makes flashing roms that much more difficult.
So if you want a good phone to use as a daily driver and don't care about tweaking and boosting... this is the phone for you!
If you immediately want fully working ICS, Sense 3.5, CM9, AOSP, etc then go with another device.
Do we see this happening in the future? If more developers were to pickup the device then maybe. But not anytime soon.
Bottom line if you want a device that has a HUGE selection of roms that you can do pretty much anything with... this isn't the phone for you. Not yet anyway.
Anyone know if there's any word on whether S-Off is coming? I thought I heard HTC announcing the days of S-On being forced are over.
I'd rather get the better phone. Hope that dev support comes.
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Agreed with Binary.
From what you've posted this doesn't sound like the phone that will suit you. However, in the long-run it could suit you better maybe?
I doubt this forum will ever pick up. Most people who wanted a phone like this bought the sensation, and this phone is not a big enough of an upgrade from that. So most will just wait till the next gen.
Thanks for the responses. I think I am going to go with the Amaze after all, and deal with Sense. Apparently it'll get ICS at some point regardless, which will be nice. I am pretty good with Linux so I might work on my own development if I get some free time (going back to college to finish up my bachelors degree so I'm not so sure about that part).
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I doubt this forum will ever pick up. Most people who wanted a phone like this bought the sensation, and this phone is not a big enough of an upgrade from that. So most will just wait till the next gen.
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I definitely agree. Everyone that I know that bought this phone after having the Sensation ended up having buyers remorse. The phones seem very similiar to eachother and we all expected them to be pretty much the same. However we later found out that they are nothing alike on the inside. Different partitions, different software, different securities, etc. This phone is actually kind of a PITA for developers despite how HTC claims to be "developer friendly" and all that other nonsense.
If you stick with the Amaze then try beast, its pretty damn close to AOSP, or at least as close as we can have for now
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I definitely agree. Everyone that I know that bought this phone after having the Sensation ended up having buyers remorse. The phones seem very similiar to eachother and we all expected them to be pretty much the same. However we later found out that they are nothing alike on the inside. Different partitions, different software, different securities, etc. This phone is actually kind of a PITA for developers despite how HTC claims to be "developer friendly" and all that other nonsense.
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This is the first phone where I had to use the htc unlocking method and am SHOCKED that is not as open as they made it out to be. Keeping s on? What the hell was the point then? I can see where it would benefit developers, but as far as supporting xda type communities, its an epic fail while giving us false hope in all those press releases how they "heard" the enthusiast community and wanted to be more open.
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i hated always have 150mb of RAM or lower, but your ns4g has 2xxmb less so you are probably used to it.
Yeah I have been less of an enthusiast lately since the dev community sorta dried up on the NS4G the past couple weeks.
Its fine. I have less free time now than I used to anyway
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well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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as borat would say:
high five!!!! i like!!!
xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqf1BmN4Dag&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqf1BmN4Dag&feature=related
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hahaha
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well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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Excellent news! I saw that almost all the active development threads are by you, you're keeping mighty busy it seems! Looks like a lot of work, that's really cool of you.
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Excellent news! I saw that almost all the active development threads are by you, you're keeping mighty busy it seems! Looks like a lot of work, that's really cool of you.
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That would be because he's the only developer that has the phone.
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So guys since all revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they think about it and how much would they need, kep you updated
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Xxul said:
So guys since al revolves around the buck, i think that we should start a e.g kickstarter for htc flyer ICS or jelly bean update, if we get a reasonable found htc could make it for us..
I shall send them a email asking what they thing about it and how much wouldbthey need, kep you updated
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Seems like a neat idea. Hope you are able to work it out.
Problem would be that they would never say that it's about cost, because they have already said that it is about performance, at least through unofficial channels.....
Best of luck!
I think something in the range of $10 million US would be a good starting point for HTC. Considering they paid $300 million for a glorified equalizer (Beats).
What are we doing exactly? I'm confused
I think the proposal is to pay HTC to support their own device !
I don't think it will work.
It will be funny to see what they say though - cos' they should be ashamed....
Top marks to the OP for taking the game back to HTC ...
Lol I don't think all 250 of us will be able to raise enough money
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Yea...um...Nexus 7 anyone?
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I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
and its just beyond time to give up on htc. The writing is on the wall, HTC is done making them, done supporting them, and betting their future on the one series. Any future updates will have to come from ourselves.
And seeing how little signatures we got on the petition shows why htc gave up on it. The flyer was a flop. Like the Apple Newton, Nintendo Virtual Boy, Sega Saturn, HD Radio its a flop. but difference is its open source android so we can do something about it.
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Cor-master said:
I'll be getting one eventually but in the meantime think its time to just make the most out of what we have with the flyer. Senseless, the best honeycomb rom, and LISBON, the only AOSP ICS Rom we have. Could be worse, we could have Views lol.
Anyway for the time being lets all just give up on Jelly bean and focus on what we have. I've complained more than anyone, but I'm over that, I'm all about helping where ever I can to make sure the flyer experience doesn't suck. And besides, the whole portrait oriented nature of Jelly bean makes me kind of want to pass on it anyway.
I gotta thank Wadegeek for calling me out for being such a crybaby. Honestly the flyer is only as bad as you make it out to be. And updates are over-rated, a perfectly fast working honeycomb is as good as any ics or jellybean rom...well minus support for chrome that is lol.
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Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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Ok people time to grow up a bit. I don't get this endless rage against HTC for "ignoring" the Flyer, I really don't. You guys act like you got burned when HTC didn't update the Flyer to ICS, but last I checked they never promised they would. Nobody ever said "Oh yeah buy a Flyer/View, it'll get ICS." If somebody had told you that I'd get the anger, but I seriously doubt they did. So enough with the *****ing, and saying "HTC should be ashamed" crap, it's pointless and worthless. This is yet another thread that has gotten de-railed with it, so unless you guys have something to add to the kickstart effort take it to your own thread or PM or something.
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"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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mectavo said:
Agree，all we need is a good enough rom that we can use everyday without turning into rage.
Senseless and lisbon is getting close to that. Forget HTC, they already get ride of the flyer.....I doubt whether the flyer team exist now.
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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SinisterModz said:
"MOMMY WOW, I'M A BIG KID NOW"
on a side note please throw your money at my kickstart, I'm making an ICS Rom for the Nokia 8250.
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Huh? Trying to make a point or something? I don't get it...
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So should we.maby find a badass dev here at xda, pay him a few bills and let him make us a 100% working rom?
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A lot of these guys have been there and done that, look in one of the DrewGaren threads. What's wrong with being a little patient and letting Chaosz-X do his thing? I mean if anyone around here deserves donations it's him.
I love android for allot of reasons. Roms and tweaking was and is a big one. I had a captivate which I loved but I sold it when my company decided to buy me an iPhone and pay my cell bill. I hate iOS and missed android so when best buy reduced the cost on the flyer I jumped on it. The flyer has been a disappointment flashing wise to me (no fault to the developers here, work much appreciated). On the other hand my flyer has paid for itself multiple times over and is used daily for streaming and it's mhl connection.
What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
sense sucks on the flyer because it's not the full sense you get from a phone, it's a special "sense 1.1 for tablets",and honeycomb is laggy naturally, it's pretty much a throw away os google came up with for a better tablet layout and combine sense with that and it's even worse. But honestly I love sense 3.6 on my vivid, theme support, and multiple homescreen layouts make sense great.
I like my flyer honestly. Getting caught up in the update thing can easily make you hate it but we got some good developers here that are working hard to improve it.
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What I have learned is that I like htc build quality but that their support sucks and that IMO sense is a way too large, bloated, laggy android skin that makes development more of an issue.
Do I regret buying my flyer, no. Would I buy another htc device, unlikely. Do I expect that I will see versions of ics/jelly bean that work for my use, no. I am ok with that now, but the device fell short of my flashing addiction
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+1.
HTC flyer awesome potential - the device IS capable of running ICS. HTC "added value" of HTC sense etc seems to have done a dis-service in terms of future upgrades.
It is ironic that more IOS users can run Chrome than Android. Why ? Cos you need ICS or greater and the HTCs of the world just won't support their products for even 18 - 24 months after release.
18 months is a long time in the tech world, and if I had a tablet that flopped like the Flyer I wouldn't be supporting it either. It's not worth their time or money to get ICS out for it, not when it's perfectly functional as is.
The real question is why did HTC even bother making it. It was more expensive than an ipad, had gingerbread instead of honeycomb, and a single core cpu. And they didnt market it bad, they just didnt market it period. But in hindsight really every android tab that came out at that time failed, mostly due to price. Up until this year the only other android tabs I saw other people have were the nook color and cheap Chinese tablets.
I guess I don't hold it against them for abandoning the Flyer anymore. It is what it is, android came to tablets before it was ready for tablets and failure was inevitable. I'd like to see them try again, maybe a one series tablet with sense 4 and an s pen.
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Btw the chrome thing does piss me off. Google needs to make that **** work with gingerbread and honeycomb at least. Google is quick to abandon previous versions of android but you sure don't see them pushing the manufacturers for updates
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http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/ Looks like we're hopefully getting JB after all
then consider our ability to provide updates to products from 2011.
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You reading the same thing I am, or are you projecting?
Not necessarily.... we meet the spec requirements, but they said that devices from 2011 would be met with consideration. Not exactly a guarantee. Plus, if we got sense 3.6 in the last update because our phone "couldn't handle" sense 4, why would they then update us to sense 4+? Okay, I'm ending my pessimistic post of the day now.
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It would be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath
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I hope that we do get JB, but considering the Thunderbolt is still waiting for ICS, I can't say that I am too optimistic.
But HTC phones will sometimes get two upgrades. The incredible did.
It's really up to Verizon to let it through, I would think. So it's more of a maybe, but I'm not so optimistic that it will happen. Hopefully the Rezound will get JB, though. I'd love me some stock Sense 4 for a change.
Not to be a pessimist, but I feel that there is pretty much 0 chance we'll get an official jb update. There weren't enough rezounds sold for HTC to care, and vzw makes it even harder on them. They aren't going to go through the effort. All the focus is on s4 devices . I'm crossing my fingers that any msm8660 device gets a JB update from HTC so we can pull from it.
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Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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BBEgo said:
Why would HTC spend the money, time, and resources to create a JB ROM that runs Sense 3.6? They never promised more than ICS for the Rez as a selling point, so they owe us nothing.
They wouldn't give us a Sense 4 update because they have already stated in print that the Rezound doesn't have the hardware to run it. But that's only half true.
Of course, many of us are running some variation of Sense 4 now on our Rezounds. So while it is technically possible, some concessions had to be made. The Rezound can't do continuous camera shooting very well. Also, still image capture while shooting video is not possible. These features were a huge part of what made Sense 4 so great to HTC (conjecture on my part, but an educated guess based on the advertising), so their official stance on Sense 4 on the Rezound does make sense.
HTC releasing a 3.6 Jelly Bean Rom seems highly unlikely.
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Hey the tb was updated to 3.6 in the leak from what like 2.1? But anyway we've technically already got 2 updates, 3 if you count the global leak...
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He meant 2 android version bumps. The Dinc has had like 1,000 minor updates
I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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Nobody here mentioned HTC owing us anything, I just posted a statement by HTC.....
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Yeah I know. Sorry if I came off as hateful or anything. I guess I was just curious as to how anyone who read that statement would interpret it to mean that they were most likely gonna update the Rez to JB.
I got the opposite impression. Guess it's just a glass half-full/empty thing. :beer:
If they did upgrade us to a JB (not Justin Bieber) then I'd be beyond excited and looking forward to what awesome surprises our glorious devs here would be able to come up with.
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I really don't think htc would even consider trying to update the rezound. It would require so much work. lets just hope chad can pull it off!
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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He already has pulled it off, I'm running jb right now. though its not 100% yet, its pretty good as is now.
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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pretty close to it though! awesome stuff... it just seems to be missing something.... i know! butter!
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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Yea, thats pretty much all that is missing but from what i understand i think chad is already close to having ION put in which is supposed to make it alot smoother.
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hey i see in your signature thing that youre underclocked and undervolted. does that -150 make a big difference in battery life?
An update to JB would convince me to buy another HTC device instead of going back to Samsung. I miss the OLED screen.
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Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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Seems like a big time slow down on developing for this phone.
Is this simply due to the One?
I couldn't imagine dropping another 500 bucks on a phone so far away from my discount time.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Could be wrong but have to agree, sense 5 may take a little while longer to get rolling, but there other roms that just dropped. Im a big supporter of utkaar99's work here. If you like sense try his HatkaLTE or his Rage ROM. If you like AOSP ,take a look at jaimeg's threads. Still some stuff happening here just a little slow right now. As far as the One, its true we're loosing some folks to that forum, but thats how it works here at xda. I mysrlf was going to get a One or the samsung 4 but decided to hold, mainly just to see how long this forum will last. Hope its like the Heroc was, even in low activity it still pushed on. Same with the Evo4G, still hangin in there 3D is the same, still going strong. We may pick up some of theirs in the future hopefully. Just gotta hang tough.
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It isn't like the days of the original evo. I always had a new Rom to play with and so I wait patiently 4 the next big rom release. I refuse to use a Rom that doesn't have full functionalities. I need my phone to just work so I am staying on mean bean until something worthy replaces it. I do love viper Rom as well.
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I know viper is working on something that will allow mods and roms for the one on other carriers to work on the Sprint variant and vice versa. One development is about to explode. That said we still have some quality roms here in lte land. If you have the time, you can learn to develop and theme.
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Due simply to the One? No. MeanBean has been dead for a while. Viper appears to have been complete since February. CM10.1 is still in the works. Stock is still being worked on. I'm sure the Sense 5 Port and others aren't just being set aside to never be touched again. I could be wrong about that though.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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Don't forget to hit the thanks button. When this phone came out there were still a lot of developers working on EVO 3D ROM's.
tonyevo52 said:
Good post man.... I would hate to see all development stop for this phone but it won't, it will slow down though.. I think everyone was so used to getting different roms and constant updates to feed the addiction... What they have done is awesome and the part about the roms being complete is true, I can't think of much that can be done with viper, been using it for a while and it's bad ass.. Just debating the One, not sure if I want to jump ship yet, it's fast and smooth, but it's not much better than this in my opinion.
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My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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My husband just got the One (his upgrade from the EVO4G). The only features it has that I wish my 4GLTE had are the dual front speakers (the sound is beautiful!), the IR blaster (maybe not super useful, but can be used for triggering our DSLR), and the international SIM card slot.
The aluminum skin is also beautiful, but it's not going to tempt me to upgrade. It also doesn't have an SD slot, so it wouldn't hold all my MP3s.
I hope development doesn't die on this device. I plan on keeping it for quite a while longer.
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I'd like to keep it for the 2 years like the ogevo. But I don't know if it will make it.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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I keep wondering the same thing. Got another year to go before my upgrade, and definitely can't afford the one straight up. Was hoping when our sense5 update drops sometime this summer (hopefully) that the current favs like mean, viper, and superjelly would be brought up to date with it, but it doesn't seem that'll happen since those devs have moved on to the one or left HTC all together. Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
I think in this new world of quickly progressing smartphones there are a couple of options for xda'ers. One, upgrade yearly to stay with the new device that gets all the attention.
The second option is the progression that this site fosters. Users learn and build their abilities to create by themselves. Many of the past leaders of EvoLTE have left a legacy of development here that can be built upon. Fortunately, the vast majority of the devs around here will gladly allow another person to take over the reigns and continue a build- or even make it thier own creation.
The site was named xdadevelopers. The purpose for the site is to allow users to learn to be developers. All the tools are here.
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Actually, it DOES seem like that WILL happen. As I've said earlier that some of the progress on those ROM's have been completed. There's simply no more to do with them which is why there is no update. Just like the OTA from HTC even though they could be doing more.
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Not saying new stuff won't drop then, but for now anything sense will be slow.
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Something else to consider is that Android 5 (Key Lime) is on the horizon and may be announced at Google I/O in a couple of weeks. A major OS rev often stokes new inspiration for devs and hopefully we'll see ports of Key Lime ROMS to the EVO LTE (e.g. CM, Key Lime based Sense, etc.).
It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
I'd much rather have more kernel development than rom personally. I'm learning more and more each day the true capability of the hardware and which software elements dampen it's potential. We have a huge hd screen and dual core I could really care less about the One and sense 5. Like someone else said it can't do much more than viper. I'm testing the AOSP waters for now and loving Slim Bean currently.
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It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Damnit man, LOL Beat me to it again bro. ,,,,,,
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It ain't dead.
Just have to know where to look is all.. not all ROMs get posted on XDA
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Mind sending me a PM with some examples?
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Just look in the development threads. There are still a lot of really great roms still being worked on.
Yes a few have left but many still have this phone and many more will probably pick it up second hand or now that it's becoming really cheap on sprint.
For ask those worried why don't you go and read a few how-tos and start doing your own thing.
I really hate these threads. They always happen and never produce something good. Just lame really.
Naters
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Try themikmik.com nice roms there
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