What happens to your phone when you disable it?
I noticed that without this mod, when your battery becomes full it gives out a bleep and then STOPS CHARGING. You will notice in your battery usage graph that it will start mapping out your usage when you receive the notification. What'll normally happen is that when you wake up you'll see a few hours of use already and a little battery drain.
With the mod you don't get the full notification and when you do wake up you will get 100 percent battery upon unplugging the device.
Now is this safe to just let it continue charging even if the battery is full? Should I be concerned about my batteries health?
The mod should have just disabled the notification and the warning tone. When the phone reaches 100% the charging stops and acts like a trickle charger to maintain it at 100%
Yeah but like I said, if you've tried the unmodified VR it charges up to a 100, bleeps the notification and then stops charging at all. That's why when you wake up you're prolly gonna end up at around 93%
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i am having a quite unusual problem with the battery on my TP. it is hard to explain but i will try my best to do so. While i was casually surfing the web while on the charger i noticed that my battery started to drain ( this is the more ordinary problem that has been posted on many threads ) but this new situation is. The indicator lights and meters within the TP indicate that the battery is charging yet it still drains. I tried turning it completely off and removing the battery and then putting it back in and charge the unit for one hour. After one hour it charged to 20% which is reasonable enough for normal use, so i turn it back on and continue to use the device again the TP still indicates that the battery is charging after listening to about 7 songs i get a very low battery indicator warning (at the same time the battery indicates its charging) there is NO overheating and when the battery reaches 0% it does not die the screen just goes off and i can turn it back on and still recieve the low battery warning but what i cannot do is use data or even turn the phone radio back on. I am on the NFS 1.05 ROM, any suggestions?
eric12341 said:
i am having a quite unusual problem with the battery on my TP. it is hard to explain but i will try my best to do so. While i was casually surfing the web while on the charger i noticed that my battery started to drain ( this is the more ordinary problem that has been posted on many threads ) but this new situation is. The indicator lights and meters within the TP indicate that the battery is charging yet it still drains. I tried turning it completely off and removing the battery and then putting it back in and charge the unit for one hour. After one hour it charged to 20% which is reasonable enough for normal use, so i turn it back on and continue to use the device again the TP still indicates that the battery is charging after listening to about 7 songs i get a very low battery indicator warning (at the same time the battery indicates its charging) there is NO overheating and when the battery reaches 0% it does not die the screen just goes off and i can turn it back on and still recieve the low battery warning but what i cannot do is use data or even turn the phone radio back on. I am on the NFS 1.05 ROM, any suggestions?
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Try to get a charger with an output of at least 1 A. It could be that your charger is not powerful enough to compensate for the drainage. The other thing is that WM' battery indicator flat out sucks... it is like Windows file system when it is desperately trying to tell you how much time you have left before your task is done (2 minutes jumping to 15 seconds jumping to 54 minutes jumping to 2 seconds jumping to 3 days, etc)..
Flash to another rom and see if the behavior still remains.... I doubt NFS messed up that badly with power settings, but it is always worth giving it a shot.
yea i doubt its the rom either as i was having overheating/drainage problems on stock but it wasnt anything like this
Hi,
Got my 101 yesterday and i charged it directly on the power adapter.
I charged it like 17hours but no blinking led?
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
My 70 will only blink if it is turned on while charging, otherwise it won't.
What do you mean, while it is charging or when it is done charging and turned on?
If i charge the 70 when it is turned off, it imediately turns itself on and stays on. When it has fully chrarged the led will flash. However if i put it on charge and it turns itself on, if i then turn it off and leave it charging the led never flashes when it is charged.
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
Thanks
I did discover that he only blink when turned on, just what you guys telling here.
Thanks for the reactions
bufflehead said:
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
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Whats bump charge?
wimmetje said:
Hi,
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
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Somewhat same issue, battery charge light NEVER blinked, had Archos 32 for 2 weeks on 2.0.71. The charge would never reach 100%, it would stay at 99% for hours, all day, just could not find that 100% mark and switch to status "charged". When I would wait at 99% for an hour or more, when unplugged, the meter would say 100% immediately after disconnecting it. Maybe it was cycling or doing something battery related, but I doubt it in light of upgrading to fw 2.1.2 and now it charges to 100% without an issue and the power led blinks. Looks like they fixed that bug, or at least it is fixed for me now.
Does anyone have trouble with the Archos 70 not charging at all? This has happened a few times now, I've put it on charge overnight and when I check in the morning the battery is at no charge.
Has anyone noticed that their 3D drains while it is plugged in? I plug in my phone for charging. It charges completely and the LED turns green. Then it begins a slow drain (as if it weren't plugged in). I notice the behavior on system panel. It shows I have it plugged in, but my charge is slowly going down.
What's going on here? Is this normal?
I read somewhere that once it is fully charged, it stops taking juice till it drops down to 90 percent and draws juice again while still plugged in.
I think this is from the intelligent charging that most new phones have. In fact in every android phone i have had...i put it on charger at night, wake up and it shows full charge, but if i unplug and replug it will drop down to 94ish and start charging again. I believe it is a form of governor to prevent over charging and heating.
Looking at my Battery Monitor Widget information, charging overnight, the battery gets to 100%, then is allowed to drop to about 95%, then charges up to 100%, then drops, then charges, repeating the cycle between 95% to 100% until unplugged. It looks like a saw tooth pattern.
mevensen said:
Looking at my Battery Monitor Widget information, charging overnight, the battery gets to 100%, then is allowed to drop to about 95%, then charges up to 100%, then drops, then charges, repeating the cycle between 95% to 100% until unplugged. It looks like a saw tooth pattern.
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noticed this as well
I love Battery Monitor Widget Pro.
I checked my log file from over night and noticed the same pattern. Goes from 100 to 95 percent. Pretty cool.
mevensen said:
Looking at my Battery Monitor Widget information, charging overnight, the battery gets to 100%, then is allowed to drop to about 95%, then charges up to 100%, then drops, then charges, repeating the cycle between 95% to 100% until unplugged. It looks like a saw tooth pattern.
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seems HTC tweaked it since the EVO 4G, it would drop to 90 not 95. I been using that widget, too, to monitor it.
anyone notice when it starts to cycle back to 100 it stays 99% for a while longer than what would seem normal?
Is anybody having problems fully charging the battery to100 percent? I noticed the battery life has gotten worse since I owned the phone. it would always charge 100 percent. Now it only charges to about 98 percent. I made sure all active apps are turned off and running apps as well turned off. I will turn my phone off at least once a week and fully charge it overnight. I notice after doing this the battery life Is always worse.
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Don't believe your battery bar...
Check the number of volts your battery has... its a much better indicator
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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The phones charges to 100% and then it stops charging if left on the charger. So you will lose 2% or 3% of battery power before it start charging again. This is designed to help keep the battery healthy as its usually not a good idea to leave the phone charging for long periods of time.
I charge mine until the thing on the status bars pops up indicating "full" and then remove from charger. The "full" indicator pops up about a half hour after the phone shows 100% which I find odd however... That also might be a battery health thing as they probably don't want you to charge it to absolute max, so maybe by saying 100% whens its more like 97% that it helps with battery health...
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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It trickle charges for a while after hitting 100%, then shuts off giving you the "unplug me" notification, drains a few %, then back to trickle charging.
In the morning if you unplug it and then plug it back in it will be fully charged in less than 30 minutes. To the full 100%.
When I first got my phone I was playing with it so much (and testing out the true battery capacity) I was often plugging it in at night with a nearly dead battery - which takes longer to fully charge overnight. So by morning it had only stopped charging an hour or two earlier so it still showed 100% for a while. Lately its been at 60-70% so by morning it has been done for 4-5 hours. So after booting it often shows 98%. No difference in battery capacity, just a longer time post-charge where it has drained a percent or two.
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Thanks for all the replies. I guess it makes sense. it just seems to run down a lot faster everytime I turn the phone off and back on the next day. It must just be me
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Try the unplug-then-replug routine one morning to restart the charging process. See if it is better that day. If it is, you are probably running into the same problem I talked about in my last paragraph.
I have i717 AT&T updated stock ICS rooted. I set the device in Power Saving mode to kick in at 50% battery life. Once it hits the 50% battery life mark it displays a notification window saying "Battery level below 50%. Power saving will run. Continue?" It seems this notification pops up almost every time I bring the phone out of rest mode (clicking power button to turn on the screen's lockscreen). It alerts me many times.
It's incredibly annoying when my phone alarm wakes me up in the morning and I'm reaching over to try to slide my finger over the screen to shut off the alarm, but it won't do anything because the damn power saving mode notification window is up and waiting for me to press OK or CANCEL.
Can I disable this notification? I can't find the area to make this setting.
I also looked at installed apps and don't see anything that resembles Power Saving Mode to see if there are any settings I can make through ROMToolbox.
Is this something I can try to disable through Tasker?
Can anyone please advise?
Why is your battery below half first thing in the morning?
You could charge it overnight then the battery will be full when your alarm goes off.
Otherwise to turn off that notification will take some editing of the rom.
That notification is there because power saving mode under clocks the cpu amongst other things that sacrifice performance for battery life... if when you want to unlock the device and run it full speed for just a couple minutes you hit cancel on that notification... or ok to run at the throttled specs of power saving mode.
I played around with power saving mode when I first got the note and noticed that any power saved by the throttling was wasted by me waiting on it with the screen on lol . So I just bought a second battery and external charger.
I am of the old school of "rechargeable batteries" where I let the battery drain to near 100% before charging again, and when I have it plugged in for charging I let it get 100% before disconnecting. I don't know if the batteries today don't have the problem of losing its lifespan due to incomplete charge sessions.
I get about 48hrs between charges with the workload I put on the device...NOT a phone gamer or constant "feelings" updater on facebook.
Studacris (I feel odd saying that) - mind if I pass an issue by you for your opinion?
This thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176466
I'm reply #7 - I thought I found the issue of my default ringtone/notification sound resetting to default all the time...but it JUST happened again.
Advise?
The chemistry in batteries nowadays is much improved as well as software for charging:
True a battery does have a finite amount of charge cycles, however a charge cycle doesn't count add each time it's plugged in, it's each time a full 100% charge and drain have occurred:
drain halfway, charge full, drain half, charge= 1 cycle and so forth.
Furthermore overcharging isn't possible. android stops charging at full and the lets the battery sip on 1% for a while then starts charging eventually once needed.
And with such a low cost for a replacement battery it really isn't much to worry about.