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Hi, fellow SG2 owners. I have been experiencing something that I consider unusual, and I'd like to resolve - if possible - what I think is an issue/a bug...
A couple of days ago, I accidentally dropped my phone. It kind of flew right out of my hand. The SG2 was protected with a silicone case, and in addition to this, the floor was carpeted. I guess the the phone must've landed on a weak spot, because despite the case and the carpeted floor, my phone restarted itself.
After this unfortunate event, the phone has, as far as I'm concerned, restarted itself once (excluding the reboot that occurred right after the impact), despite being in standby.
In addition to this, the battery graph often shows vertical drops, which seems kind of weird. They mostly occur even when I'm not using the phone. I think they might be related to random reboots, but I'm not sure. (See the attached picture. There's a vertical drop in the first hours, and one at the end).
I don't have any applications that drain the battery life more than normal.
Has anyone else experienced something similar?
Do you think the random reboots and the vertical drops in the battery graph are related to the accident I had?
I'm going on a three-week-vacation to the States in two days, and I'd really like to resolve this potential issue before my departure.
I experienced this vertical drop too a few hours ago! My phone wouldn't unlock itself and seemed to be off (even though I never turned it off) so I took the battery out and put it back in. The vertical drop happened right after I turned my phone on. First time it happened to me. I posted a thread about my problem too.
Looks like reboots to me. If it drained while properly booted it would have been a continues line. Not sure what it means but your phone signal changes at the same time as the drops.
Let your battery drain till the phone turns itself off, the charge while off till full. It might help.
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I appreciate the response, guys.
By the way, I haven't inserted my sim card yet, so there shouldn't be any phone signal at all.
Yes but the signal line shows a yellow line (instead red) at the same time as the drops.
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Yes but the signal line shows a yellow line (instead red) at the same time as the drops.
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Yup, that's why I think the drops are related to the reboots.
Is it possible that these reboots and battery drops are aftereffects of my accidental dropping?
does anyone know how to manually refresh the battery graph? Mine seems to refresh every 10-15min and sometimes longer. Any way of making it real time to match the time up the top vs battery graph time?
Menu-refresh
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Me too
I've been getting these too and I've never dropped my phone. On occasion it has apparently entirely drained the battery. And it is always when I'm not using it. It's a bit like playing 'what's the time Mr Wolf' in that you have to catch it in the act. I did catch it once doing this and it was, to all intents and purposes, dead. Wouldn't turn on or off, only revived by taking the battery out. Once rebooted, the battery cliff was apparent on the graph - i'd just caught it before it completely emptied. I was advised to empty the battery and then charge it with the phone off for 8 hours and certainly the next day it didn't do it. But now I'm getting little drops creeping in again. Battery life isn't bad actually, I'm on 20+ hours at the moment, with one 10% vertical drop and two 2-3% drops in there. Strangely last night, the graph crept upwards.
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LOL this looks like the leap of faith in assassins creed!!
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Hi all. I really don't know what causes my problem, so I'll just describe it:
Epilogue:
My Legend came with some Vodafone ROM so as soon as I got it I flashed 2-3 ROMs found on XDA (all in the same day, all were 2.2) before I settled for BlaY0's. Everything was working properly. After 3-4 months I decided to try a new ROM so I flashed a 2.3.3 with HTC Sense (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987251) - didn't like it much; then I tried a Cyanogen, also 2.3 - didn't like it either. So I flashed back the BlaY0 2.2. (also, in one day)
This is when my problem started.
Usually my battery would last for a day and a half. But every evening I connect it to the charger (at about 50%). In the morning the little light turned from orange to green and the battery indicator showed 100%. This was before! Now, I connect the charger in the evening but in the morning the light is still orange and the battery indicator shows something between 70% and 85% (I don't know if this is important, but most of the times is 85%). Usually it took 2-3 to fully charge the battery.
After a while, I noticed that if I reboot the phone in the morning, after the reboot the indicator shows 95-98%.
First thing I did was to wipe the battery stats (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765656) but either I did it wrong or that was not the problem because it did'n solve anything.
Then I noticed something else. When I go to SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE>BATTERY I can see the UP TIME and the AWAKE TIME. I'm guessing that the up time is the total time since last reboot but the awake time I'm not sure; is it the time the display was on or it is more about CPU activity? Anyways, it seems that after I connect the charger, it thinks that it is awake because in the morning I can read about 8-9 h of awake time (during the day it reaches at about 1-2 h). So it appears that something consumes the power at a higher rate messing with the charging process. If so, why does the battery indicator heals after reboot?
Thinking that an app was causing the problem I eliminated some of them: Advanced Task Killer, Llama, Watchdog. The problem persisted...
Now I'm out of ideas...so if someone has some I'd be grateful. It's not that I need to reboot in the morning, it's the not knowing that's killing me!
Absolutly same issue here.
I remember seeing a solution somewhere in the forum. Try using search. I think there're many threads revolving around this issue.
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elk2210 said:
Absolutly same issue here.
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I know that it's selfish but I'm glad I'm not alone
@Asovse1: I did a search before posting but I'll keep digging if you say there is a solution somewhere. Tks!
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I know that it's selfish but I'm glad I'm not alone
@Asovse1: I did a search before posting but I'll keep digging if you say there is a solution somewhere. Tks!
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There was a huge thread on this in General.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151450&highlight=charge
Unfortunate, until an alternate solution is found, it seems that replacing a piece of the hardware is the only way. Which sucks. I'm sorry.
When flashing a new ROM or switching between primary and secondary batteries in my wallet, I always make sure I calibrate it so the system doesn't misinterpret predefined untrue values regarding the highs and lows of the battery.
Actually, with my second battery, it takes an hour to charge from 2-60, then another one for 61-76, then the whole night til 100. It's quite horrible. The stock HTC battery excels at charging, but I digress.
It seems like a counter-solution to me, but maybe a temporary fix for you: Have you tried investing in a really cheap, secondary battery, perhaps on eBay? I bought two for around 2 dollars each, on separate occasions. My first I'm still using now, in my wallet, switches each month. My other one I bought recently, and the first time it dipped to 30%, it completely shut off. Needless to say, I threw it away, it was horrible.
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I read the thread...to be honest I never thought it would be a hardware issue. Anyways, replacing the motherboard isn't really a fix.
I guess your solution (having spare batteries) is the only one feasible. This kinda sucks!
Solution (see last sentence)
I have two HTC Legend phones here that both have this same problem.
I have read elsewhere that some people got the HTC Legend fully charged by charging it normally, like overnight, then powering it down and charging once more until the light turns green. Some repeated this procedure twice, i.e. pulled the charging cable, then plugged it in again.
I just tried charging with the phone powered down and got it to 100%.
But I'm still not sure whether this is just snake oil, because the indicated figure may not actually show the true charge.
Addendum: As I now know, it is snake oil. As far as I can tell, the phone charges normally. Only the indicator underreads. It does not reach 100%, it goes down rapidly, the phone keeps operating for hours with the indicator showing 3% or less.
And here is the solution.
I've been doing a lot of research on this and it appears that our Razr has a bug that has been plaguing alot of Android phone. The 'suspend' bug. I noticed my phone was using alot of battery just sitting overnight. Sometime I'd wake up and it would be dead, which didn't make any sense. So I dl'd Watchdog to see what was killing the batt and it would get a warning about a 'suspend' process. This would pop up several times when the phone was just idle and not being used,with screen off. So I Googled it and there are alot of folks on various Android phones experiencing this problem. Here is a link to one site that is working on it or has been: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
If you do a search on it, there are quite a few places that it's popping up on. I can't figure out how to get it fixed but I do know that this is one reason our phones are not lasting as long as they could. They're being drained when not being used! Now this may affect alot of folks or just some but it's a definate problem, I know on my phone it sure is!
I've also noticed there's a huge drain in battery use coming android is. Hope there's a fix for this.
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Sporttster said:
I've been doing a lot of research on this and it appears that our Razr has a bug that has been plaguing alot of Android phone. The 'suspend' bug. I noticed my phone was using alot of battery just sitting overnight. Sometime I'd wake up and it would be dead, which didn't make any sense. So I dl'd Watchdog to see what was killing the batt and it would get a warning about a 'suspend' process. This would pop up several times when the phone was just idle and not being used,with screen off. So I Googled it and there are alot of folks on various Android phones experiencing this problem. Here is a link to one site that is working on it or has been: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
If you do a search on it, there are quite a few places that it's popping up on. I can't figure out how to get it fixed but I do know that this is one reason our phones are not lasting as long as they could. They're being drained when not being used! Now this may affect alot of folks or just some but it's a definate problem, I know on my phone it sure is!
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What is the full name of the program? Could you possibly freeze it in TB?
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Ronin3178 said:
What is the full name of the program? Could you possibly freeze it in TB?
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It's not a program but a process of the Android OS. It's likely part of the rom for the razr like a setting that motorola stuck in that prevents the low-power cycle that should happen when you put in sleep mode. Probably could be fixed once people start making roms or if they roll out that OTA for icecream sandwich.
Same here, hope this gets fixed soon .
And as I have pointed out in other threads, having Wifi connected magnifies this problem quite a lot (for my phone at least). If I use CPU Spy to monitor sleep time, if Wifi is connected, I get almost zero sleep time even if the screen is always off.
What I've found for battery drain with screen off:
Wifi on, cell data off (using smart actions): 4%/hour
Wifi off, only 3g data on: 1-2%/hour
4g falls in between somewhere.
It would be great if Juice Defender could be programmed to deal with this Suspend Process.
Which watchdog did you install? the free version. I would like to confirm this and I suggest others do as well.
Yea just using the free version of Watchdog. Make sure you enable the search Android processes also.
BetterBatteryStats shows it as well under "Process"
I'm also having this issue. I was getting really good battery life (compared to my work phone, an Evo) for the first few weeks and then all a sudden the battery bombed on me. The standard Android battery use info only showed "Android OS" as the culprit (and would show like 60-80% as of late) of battery going to it. I downloaded Watchdog Lite and then this morning after I had the phone off the charger it was giving me the alert that the suspend process exceeded threshold of 51%.
I DO use wifi and that was actually helping with battery, but I have it set to not use when screen is off. Now, that being said if suspend is hanging on it trying to disable that's one thing, but I've got those settings in juice defender and in the OS config.
I have the exact same issue
I don't know what it is, haven't checked but...I lost 13% overnight in about 8 hours, too much IMO. Still get awesome battery life though, can't imagine if that was gone.
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I lost the same last night. Unplugged for 8 hours. Not turned on. Was awake for first hour at least. Didn't go to suspend mode for awhile
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I have the Razr for about 2 weeks now, and I have yet to get an issue.. However, maybe for the handsets affected, a patch will come out to resolve the issue. Or maybe, just maybe they will just wait and release it complete with ICS for the Razr.
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Well, I think I figured out what was causing the issue in my case. Anyone else running the app "Screebl"?
Grims said:
Well, I think I figured out what was causing the issue in my case. Anyone else running the app "Screebl"?
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Yep, use it my Razr.
Anyone experience something (a term I will borrow from the Nook forums, ) "Sleep of Death"? It has happened three times to me on my Razr in two days, although in the last two it hasn't happened.
By SOD I mean that I unplugged the phone from the charger fully charged and within a matter of 25min to 6hours the phone becomes unresponsive . No power button working, plugging into charger, nothing wakes it. The only time it responds is after the hard reboot ( by holding down power and volume - for 10s)
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Yep, use it my Razr.
Anyone experience something (a term I will borrow from the Nook forums, ) "Sleep of Death"? It has happened three times to me on my Razr in two days, although in the last two it hasn't happened.
By SOD I mean that I unplugged the phone from the charger fully charged and within a matter of 25min to 6hours the phone becomes unresponsive . No power button working, plugging into charger, nothing wakes it. The only time it responds is after the hard reboot ( by holding down power and volume - for 10s)
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Well, after disabling Screebl I haven't had anymore wacklock issues. Watch Dog isn't reporting on suspend anymore, and betterbatterystats is now behaving as well.
I also have Android OS taking up to like 46% of my battery. However, I now got around 20 hours battery life with a few txt, calls, music gaming etc since I turned the policy of the Wifi to go off when screen is turned off. Weirdly, it also appears to improve my battery life even when my WiFi is already turned off. Guess you guys can give it a try. But Android OS is the main energy user of my battery. Didn't have that on my Xperia X10
I have two questions:
1. Does anyone know the correlation between CPU usage and battery burn? I'm seeing Suspend consistently burning 3-5% of CPU, but haven't seen how that directly translates into batteyr burn. There should be some sort of mathematical relation between X CPU = Y battery burn.
2. Even though suspend is eating low cpu cycles, the battery dropping 10-15% overnight with nothing going on is still ridiculous. Any ideas on what else the probelm is?
I have searched on here for the last 20 minutes so I hope I didn't just miss something.
Anyways, onto the problem I am having... I'm currently running UnNamed 1.3.1 and last night before I went to sleep the phone got really warm. I went to place it on the night stand and missed resulting in the phone taking a minor fall ~2ft. Everything was in working order so I placed in back on the stand and went to sleep.
At some point during the night the phone died on me causing me to miss work today. Now I'm trying to charge it but all it is doing is showing the depleted battery icon for about 2 seconds and then going to a black screen and repeating. Have any of you guys heard of this issue? Is it just a defunct battery?
Thanks for the help in advance.
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I have searched on here for the last 20 minutes so I hope I didn't just miss something.
Anyways, onto the problem I am having... I'm currently running UnNamed 1.3.1 and last night before I went to sleep the phone got really warm. I went to place it on the night stand and missed resulting in the phone taking a minor fall ~2ft. Everything was in working order so I placed in back on the stand and went to sleep.
At some point during the night the phone died on me causing me to miss work today. Now I'm trying to charge it but all it is doing is showing the depleted battery icon for about 2 seconds and then going to a black screen and repeating. Have any of you guys heard of this issue? Is it just a defunct battery?
Thanks for the help in advance.
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This sometimes happens with a severely depleted battery - after a bunch of cycles like that it SHOULD eventually stay on I think.
Otherwise you may need to give the battery just a little "juice" with a standalone charger.
Thanks I'll keep trying, was having a minor crisis when I woke up 2 hours late to work today.
I had this same issue when my battery died severely. Woke up with the phone cycling, like you mentioned and it was extremely warm.
The problem you are having is that UnNamed is running a kernal that automatically boots up the phone if it is off when you plug it in. This, combined with the fact that android turns your phone off automatically when the battery is too low, is putting you into a battery bootloop.
I just went into the AT&T store, and they swapped out my battery for free. Just don't let your phone get too low before charging it.
Hope this helps.
It's finally started taking charge thank goodness.
Anyone gave an idea as to why my battery tanked so hard. I exited out of all apps and had it plugged in through the night.
jcarson112 said:
It's finally started taking charge thank goodness.
Anyone gave an idea as to why my battery tanked so hard. I exited out of all apps and had it plugged in through the night.
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Rage from being dropped.
Hard to say. Unless you catch it as it's draining like crazy, a logcat or bbs will only comment on how it's currently running.
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Lol i just put it into download mode and charged it haha. I made it stop rebooting......
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Can't charge battery
o i think i am having the same issue. i dont have any other charging method. it is so dead i can't even get it to get into download mode.... any ideas. PLEASE HELP
Did you put a different kernel on it? I know certain kernels cause the phone to lock into 1200MHz while charging. At that rate the phone would die even plugged in, like you saw on that battery graph. Zedomax kernel did that to my phone. None of entropy512's did that to me, but if you used a different kernel than what gtg packed it with that might be it.
Look for BetterBatteryStats, it will tell you what apps are preventing your phone from going into deep sleep. If its an app causing that issue BBS will tell you which one. It costs money in the android market, but there is free version for xda members in the android app forum.
So I left wifi on all night, no big deal, phone didn't drop that much. Then I turned it off around 7 or 8 am when I woke up. Didn't touch my phone at all. I came back to the phone and it didn't turn on. When I plugged it in, the orange light kept flashing. I got into recovery and I found out it's cause of my battery. When I was finally able to boot, I looked at the battery usage and thought that it was impossible. I had gone from 60% to 0% without using the phone over a period of maybe 2 hours.
Why?! That's impossible..
Should I be concerned? I bought this phone a couple days ago and I can take it back to sprint if necessary.
I'm trying out MeanBean v1.9 right now. Is this just a bug or do you think it's my actual battery?
maybe, does it say what drained the battery? maybe even try running a scan for malware.
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maybe, does it say what drained the battery? maybe even try running a scan for malware.
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Well no, it doesn't say. I just installed the rom last night. but I guess I can take a scan?
I lost 45% over night last night on meanbean with wifi on. I think its a bug in jellybean. I haven't had great battery since I've gone with JB....
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u prob have a wakelock.. use betterbatterystats app to see whats keeping your phone wake at nite
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u prob have a wakelock.. use betterbatterystats app to see whats keeping your phone wake at nite
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How do I disable wake lock?
I tried to do an experiment last night and it happened again, only this time with the Stock w Goodies rom. I left my phone on most of the night without problem and turned the data off. Then I checked my phone once at around 7 am. Then I noticed the battery dropped 20 percent within a short period of time. Once I restarted, the problem seemed to fix, but I can't rely on myself to watch my battery monitor and restart when the issue occurs. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I take this phone back?
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Its not the rom, I get very little to no drain from Meanbean when my phone is in standby. I will take my phone off the charger at 7:00am and not put it back on till 11;30pm with moderate usage and 6 different email addresses syncing all day long and never go below 50% on my battery. There is definitely something going on with your phones setup that is sucking the battery. It looks like you are in a very low signal area which is the biggest user of battery. Your phone is constantly trying to find a better signal. Its looks like you were on a phone call for 8 hours with a wake lock searching for signal. Are you new to Sprint? You may have a real problem if your signal is this low in your house.
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Its not the rom, I get very little to no drain from Meanbean when my phone is in standby. I will take my phone off the charger at 7:00am and not put it back on till 11;30pm with moderate usage and 6 different email addresses syncing all day long and never go below 50% on my battery. There is definitely something going on with your phones setup that is sucking the battery. It looks like you are in a very low signal area which is the biggest user of battery. Your phone is constantly trying to find a better signal. Its looks like you were on a phone call for 8 hours with a wake lock searching for signal. Are you new to Sprint? You may have a real problem if your signal is this low in your house.
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No I've had sprint for years and my phone has 5/6 bars right now..
I have the same experience as cruise350. I have almost no battery drain with MeanBean when the screen is off. As I type this I've had my phone off the charger for 2 hours and I had some light use and I'm still at 100%.
Follow evo401's advice and get betterbatterystats to find which app is causing this problem for you.