So the kindle fire was announced today
Do you think it'll be possible to port the UI to the streak with a working phone and camera function?
iphonepimp said:
So the kindle fire was announced today
Do you think it'll be possible to port the UI to the streak with a working phone and camera function?
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What would be the sense in it...its only running Froyo... the suggestion has zero merit
cdzo72 said:
What would be the sense in it...its only running Froyo... the suggestion has zero merit
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his question may have zero merit to you & your streak, but to him & his streak, it could be the direction he wishes to move. I'm curious about this as well.
I'm also curious if Windows 8 will be able to be installed on the dell streak 5 when it comes out.
I would love to know exactly how flexible out tablet is, and the many different options available.
I believe his question has great merit.
rvbarton said:
his question may have zero merit to you & your streak, but to him & his streak, it could be the direction he wishes to move. I'm curious about this as well.
I'm also curious if Windows 8 will be able to be installed on the dell streak 5 when it comes out.
I would love to know exactly how flexible out tablet is, and the many different options available.
I believe his question has great merit.
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A little prior research would tell you that dell has been very stingy with all things Streak related which has been a mystery for us all
This would be the reason there are not as many customized ROMs as far as eye candy and the such because no one has access to drivers
So this leaves us with a device that IS NOT very flexible... no matterhow much power it may have under the hood
That was my nice response which you could have found by using the wonderful SEARCH functions here and doing some reading
iphonepimp said:
So the kindle fire was announced today
Do you think it'll be possible to port the UI to the streak with a working phone and camera function?
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I hope so.
someone dumped a rooted rom in the kindle android dev section...
mashi said:
dump of /system ext4 with root
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3NUZ6YUT
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Anyone willing to take a crack at it? I've tried installing the launcher apk and silk browser but i get a parse error
This is, to say the least, an odd direction to want to go in. Granted it may be worthwhile as a thought exercise to see if it can be done, but realistically it's simply not necessary. It'd be easier just to download the Kindle app from the Market and be able to do everything the Kindle Fire can do, and more.
I have been trying to port it to the viewsonic gtablet for a few days now with no luck. I can get it to the boot screen, but it just bootloops after that. Seems very hard to port, but then again I am just an amature, so good luck getting it ported to the streak hope it goes better than my attempt.
the3dman said:
I have been trying to port it to the viewsonic gtablet for a few days now with no luck. I can get it to the boot screen, but it just bootloops after that. Seems very hard to port, but then again I am just an amature, so good luck getting it ported to the streak hope it goes better than my attempt.
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Glad to see that im not the only one with hopes of porting the amazon version on android to other devices.
Have you tried extracting apks from the rom dump and single handidly install apps?
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Yes I have tried the apk's almost nothing works. I can get the launcher to work for a split second before force closing. I actually like the kindle fire interface. Simple and to the point. That is why I would like to port it.
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Sorry... this isn't a G1 accessory...but I thought everyone would get a kick out of this:
Android Tablet?
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lol i would love to see this rooted running 2.1 or something
jmon777 said:
lol i would love to see this rooted running 2.1 or something
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That's the whole thing... what kind of ROM would you be able to run?
No Dev here is gonna take the time to port a 2.1 ROM over. But interesting nonetheless.
I don't think it is real. At least the OS isn't Android. Take a look at the screenshots. You can clearly see that it isn't the stock 1.6 Android, but more likely a chinese copy of it. It is a very good copy indeed, but mostly the top bar, the bottom page indicators on the homescreen what makes me think it is a fake.
Those indicators are not native to 1.6. I agree that it is probably a fake. However I didn't bother to read the 66 reviews on it.
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guys, I have one of these, they are real and if you google slatedroid, you'll find there's a fair bit of stuff being done with them.
for me, i use mine as a cheap-as ebook reader, at less than a third of the cost of a kindle or such, it works for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvCVDi4No2Y
Nice to see streak on action but i am jealous now that i have got black and people will have diff colours
.....screw 2.1. just froyo already or better yet release source so we can play ourselves
I am bit confussed here
the guy said froyo even the heading states that , then he said 2.1
i thought froyo is 2.2? isnt
can someone clear this point
dead101 said:
I am bit confussed here
the guy said froyo even the heading states that , then he said 2.1
i thought froyo is 2.2? isnt
can someone clear this point
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froyo is 2.2 yes so i guess that means we will be getting 2.1 in sept "with plans" to upgrade to 2.2 thereafter
At least is progress i guess
lufc said:
At least is progress i guess
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not good enough for such a high end device in my eyes. if it is a case that we wont be getting 2.2 in sept then dell should do the moral thing and release 2.2 source for us to mess about with
Dell have been saying that they wll release with 1.6 and update to 2.2.
Yet again, yesterday, they stated the same thing
Click for post --> Like I mentioned in my previous Dell Streak post, the Android 2.2 over the air update (Froyo) will come later this year. We will ship Dell Streak with Android 1.6.
grizlore said:
Dell have been saying that they wll release with 1.6 and update to 2.2.
Yet again, yesterday, they stated the same thing
Click for post --> Like I mentioned in my previous Dell Streak post, the Android 2.2 over the air update (Froyo) will come later this year. We will ship Dell Streak with Android 1.6.
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random?
we already know that, we were talking about the apparent sep update and whether it will be 2.1 or 2.2
I notice he said "Thankyou for all of your comments...." he cant have been reading the same forums and threads that i was...heh.
Yup - looks good on your screen mate.....what about getting it on to ours....there wasnt really much in that, as there was no timeline - is it really that hard to say 2.2 will be ready......"insert date here" and if you dont make it just let us know, then we a, know that its being worked on and b, know what the actual version to be released will actually be.....sheesh - is it really that hard. Personally if they'd said end of september.....adn then it rolled over and they post and say "taking a bit longer" end of oct - id be happy with that - at least i know....in a world of open and instant communication they havent actually done neither....
Am i being too harsh??
ComfySofa said:
I notice he said "Thankyou for all of your comments...." he cant have been reading the same forums and threads that i was...heh.
Yup - looks good on your screen mate.....what about getting it on to ours....there wasnt really much in that, as there was no timeline - is it really that hard to say 2.2 will be ready......"insert date here" and if you dont make it just let us know, then we a, know that its being worked on and b, know what the actual version to be released will actually be.....sheesh - is it really that hard. Personally if they'd said end of september.....adn then it rolled over and they post and say "taking a bit longer" end of oct - id be happy with that - at least i know....in a world of open and instant communication they havent actually done neither....
Am i being too harsh??
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not at all, i don't think its the hardest thing in the world to narrow it down to a date... I've not bought my streak yet as I'm waiting for 2.1/2 before i take the plunge...
As far as reading comments on the web goes... god know where hes been looking, one main issue i has is with the horrific keyboard layout! there should be some option to remove that bloody numpad!
I would have bought one of these for the large screen internet browsing. Though it has been a disaster that its been released with 1.6. By the time this comes out nexus one users will have gingerbread.
There is, I have swype and touchpal working on my device and they are great. Look up the swype apk or download touchpal on the market. They work unbelievably.
parcsalooc said:
There is, I have swype and touchpal working on my device and they are great. Look up the swype apk or download touchpal on the market. They work unbelievably.
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Agreed Touchpal is my favourite at present.
Don't be put off that fact the main market screen is all in chinese
Just read engadget this morning......ARE YOU READING THIS SITE MR DELL....Droid x already getting 2.2.....
As of yesterday i took delivery of my Nexus One so, for the moment i have 2 phones....depending on what Dell does will depend on whether i have it over the next 6 weeks or so.
I dare say im not the only one...
I don't think Dell actually realise how much they are damaging their sales by packaging such a high end device with what is essentially year old software with no update time fram... I know they said by the end of the year but that's still anytime over the next 5 months!
Nobody's interested in creating custom roms for streak That's why all non-HTC devices sucks
Come on developers, please cook some 2.x custom builds
borce_razor said:
Nobody's interested in creating custom roms for streak That's why all non-HTC devices sucks
Come on developers, please cook some 2.x custom builds
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eh? think your find the lack of custom anything for the streak is simply because our brothers stateside havent got their hands on it yet
borce_razor said:
Nobody's interested in creating custom roms for streak That's why all non-HTC devices sucks
Come on developers, please cook some 2.x custom builds
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Hold on feel days after stary selling in USA, then will apper some, I hope.
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flumps said:
eh? think your find the lack of custom anything for the streak is simply because our brothers stateside havent got their hands on it yet
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I think its more to do with we don't have any bloody source to work with!
the current kernel doesn't want to play with 2.2
And so far I haven't got a cooked kernel to boot, so I may be missing something.
To help efforts maybe we should try an nd all work out what there is propriety in the current roms, and then we can include what we're missing.
I am determined to at least get a vanilla froyo kernel and system working...whether it will be any good is another matter, but I'm on holiday for another week so no linux box to play with...
since the nook tablet and the droid 3 have the same cpu and gpu shouldn't we be ablt to use it's roms?
There was another thread along the same lines started earlier in regards to using kindle fire roms. They may or may not work. Feel free to risk giving them a try.
*EDIT* I tried a KF ROM from modaco. It flashes without any errors, but I am guessing it will need to be reworked for the partitioning on the NT. On reboot, it just shuts off. Doesn't get past the 'n' screen. I didn't try a D3 ROM after that.
Thereare some developers who are working on CM9. Just be patient and wait a few weeks, the devs will post it on xda as soon as they have a wokring rom.
two weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCroE9Q_NX8&feature=g-all-u&context=G2de3f87FAAAAAAAAJAA
The devs are making some progress
Thanks to fattire
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since the nook tablet and the droid 3 have the same cpu and gpu shouldn't we be ablt to use it's roms?
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I dont want to be a ****, but I have to state this.
If it was that easy, if it was really that simple to do, wouldnt someone, ANYONE have tried it in the last 3 months?
I mean, I aint trying to beat you down or insult you, but did the idea really seem that far out of the box?
Its been sugested, KF roms, NC roms, as well as others, but there are a lot of BRILLIANT people on this forum, and its been 3 months that they have been at work on this device. We have had people disassemble their NT and solder a connection from the board of the NT into a printer cable so they could basically re-write the chip, but no one thought of using a kindle fire rom....?
Read. Just read and read and read. You will find SO MUCH info on this forum. So much to learn. Im still learning too. (Slowly)
i don't think it's easy to make roms. i'm just trying to think of logical conclusions based on my limited knowledge. I think the developers here are ****ing awesome and it's great how they've gotten as far as they have already. I'm just anxious and optimistic. I can't wait to really set my nook loose
The good old Smiley, to make the reading happier:
I am looking for suggestions.
What could I use my Lapdock for, now that I made the switch to CyanogenMod?
Is there a good solution for making the VNC'ed ARM Ubuntu (look for Ubuntu Installer in the Play Store) work better with the touchpad? Should I sell it? Is there a solution to make remote control apps such as TeamViewer or Splashtop integrate with the Lapdock's keyboard and touchpad? Is there any way to make the device switch to Tablet mode without rebooting? That would be rather interesting to see. By the way, the CM9 ROM I am currently running has got Landscape HDMI working flawlessly, so that should not be an issue...
PS: Please do not ignore this thread. Any suggestions are welcome! (Use your common sense though)
The good old Smiley, to leave a good impression:
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I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
Paranoid Android Rom
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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aaron.a;[URL="tel:31083061" said:
31083061[/URL]]I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
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Cocolopes said:
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Made me laugh out loud!
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WARNING: Massive multi-reply...
kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Currently, I use it for watching movies as well, and I am looking forward to pairing a Wii Remote and/or a DualShock® 3 to my Atrix™, so that I can play some games such as GTA III and Shadowgun (Max Payne *-*) on the big screen.
I was happy with Blur until the day I ran into that tempting CM9 thread. I did not know what smoothness and responsiveness really were. Blur was the smoothest I thought it could ever get... But I was wrong, and now I have to choose between fluidity and Webtop. :thumbdown:
I actually went back to Blur some months ago, but unfortunately, prolonged use of ICS can cause dependence. Believe it or not, I was pretty happy with Blur. Webtop was working flawlessly, I even had BackTrack installed, but then came the relapse: I could no longer resist to ICS. I am now back to CM9, and with it comes my dilemma...
I am looking for a way to use the Atrix™ as a more desktop-ish platform when docked (especially to the Lapdock). I believe the ideal would be Ubuntu through a local VNC client, or a remote desktop app, I just wish they would play nicer with the keyboard and touchpad...
Basically, something like a key mapper (easy-to-use, I am still unable to figure out WiiMoteController's key mapping scheme) for Lapdock's hardware. We could make a keyboard-powered Ouya!
What still concerns me though, is that games would not be optimized for it e.g. Minecraft PE, games where the camera angle for example, is controlled by dragging the screen, so it would have to be a really powerful, but easy-to-use key mapper, and since you can't have everything in life, I'm afraid I'm asking for much...
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What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
aaron.a said:
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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When the official Ubuntu for Android was announced, even though an Atrix 2 was used for the hands-on part, on the project's official hotsite... It was clearly an Atrix™ 4G standing there on the dock. The differences between our device's design and the Atrix 2's or the Defy's (Defy+'s) are not that obvious, but they are, indeed, noticeable.
You do know what that means, don't you? It means it is almost certain that our device will be on the first batch of officially supported devices!
I don't if the Atrix™ is still there, but if it's not, I can try to find the screenshot I took if you'd like.
I am so proud! :beer:
tomh235 said:
Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
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What do you mean? It would have to be ported to each supported device anyway, wouldn't it?
Sir_gpm said:
Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
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I have never thought I'd say this but, "Please don't get off-topic". I'd appreciate it if this gets settled in a new thread or via PM.
Anyway, you said "stock UbunTop", I could be wrong, but I think it's either stock or UbunTop, which is a mod born right here on our neighbor forum, Android Development.
If yours is really stock, I suggest you get BackTrack from the BackTop project, I don't it's got aircrack built-in, and I was unable to install it, so unless you're an experienced hacker, don't get too excited with BackTrack's features, but my point is: It is amazingly faster than Webtop, it seems lighter, I used to be able to run more than 3 different apps simultaneously...
If yours is really running UbunTop I'm afraid I cannot assist you, since webtop2sd never worked for me and BackTop and WebtopMOD were the only I could ever manage to get working on my device...
Cocolopes said:
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Hahaha
Nice one. I'll think about it though... Hehe
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gabriel_feo said:
What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
djluis48 said:
I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
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Random Canadian said:
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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gabriel_feo said:
I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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So no gift for me? ... hahaha... just a joke... glad you solve it...
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Is it possible to get paranoid android on the lap dock in native resolution?(1376)
Hey
Finally the BBM is out on android
Is there any way to install it on the dell streak.
Really want to use it.....?????.....
Not unless you're rooted. See, you have to change your ROM to the ICS ROM in Android Development, then install BBM through the Play Store. BBM only works on ICS and up, and only if the device has a screen 7" or less.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Not unless you're rooted. See, you have to change your ROM to the ICS ROM in Android Development, then install BBM through the Play Store. BBM only works on ICS and up, and only if the device has a screen 7" or less.
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I have been through many ics roms in android development
according to you which is the best ics rom available? the one which is most stable?
I don't believe any of the ICS ROMs are truly stable enough for everyday use. Too many issues, such as no data connection.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't believe any of the ICS ROMs are truly stable enough for everyday use. Too many issues, such as no data connection.
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yea....almost in every1, then what is the use of flashing it.
bdw it seems that the development has stopped for dell streak
try to make a stable 1 please...
want an ics......
try something...
Rishabhv said:
yea....almost in every1, then what is the use of flashing it.
bdw it seems that the development has stopped for dell streak
try to make a stable 1 please...
want an ics......
try something...
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i success installed BBM on dell streak 5 using paranoid android rom
Rishabhv said:
yea....almost in every1, then what is the use of flashing it.
bdw it seems that the development has stopped for dell streak
try to make a stable 1 please...
want an ics......
try something...
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EVERYBODY wants ICS on this device. But had you bothered to search the forums here you would have discovered that there are significant hurdles to be overcome to get ICS on the Streak. Until these hurdles are overcome, ICS is not going to happen.
One of the devs from the early days is attempting to get ICS working, but that may never happen either. Honestly, by the time it does happen I will have moved on to either a Galaxy Note or (most likely) a Nexus 5. So even if I had sufficient skill to work on an ICS port, I don't have any inclination to do so, especially when an (overdue) device upgrade looms large for moi.
BBM on AOKP ICS
Rishabhv said:
yea....almost in every1, then what is the use of flashing it.
bdw it seems that the development has stopped for dell streak
try to make a stable 1 please...
want an ics......
try something...
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Hi,
I have installed BBM on AOKP ICS.
Thanks
@gnwn, @peddi_th: Thank you for confirming what has been said in post #2. I just hope you didn't misread it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
EVERYBODY wants ICS on this device. But had you bothered to search the forums here you would have discovered that there are significant hurdles to be overcome to get ICS on the Streak. Until these hurdles are overcome, ICS is not going to happen.
One of the devs from the early days is attempting to get ICS working, but that may never happen either. Honestly, by the time it does happen I will have moved on to either a Galaxy Note or (most likely) a Nexus 5. So even if I had sufficient skill to work on an ICS port, I don't have any inclination to do so, especially when an (overdue) device upgrade looms large for moi.
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Yea......i realise that its not easy to make an ics for this device as there are may things to overcome.
But still ....i hope we will get an ics soon.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Not unless you're rooted. See, you have to change your ROM to the ICS ROM in Android Development, then install BBM through the Play Store. BBM only works on ICS and up, and only if the device has a screen 7" or less.
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i don't think dell streaks hardware is compatible with ICS, i also have dell streak, and i want bbm too on it, wonder how to get it, if ICS is possible on it, please give me any link to root the device and install ICS on it.
Actually, the hardware is perfectly compatible with ICS as there are other single-core devices of the same vintage running at least ICS. The problem with the Streak has always been the fact that certain drivers were always closed source, making it almost impossible to get a fully functional port. This is why the ICS ROMs in Development only partly work.
If I had knowledge that would change this situation, I would have already shared it. Since I don't, pray that the guy supposedly working on backporting BBM to Gingerbread (link) comes through.
EDIT: The user that claimed to have backported BBM to Gingerbread was banned. The only differences between the two files were a change in the Minimum SDK version in the file manifest and some graphical changes.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't believe any of the ICS ROMs are truly stable enough for everyday use. Too many issues, such as no data connection.
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I have dell 5 mini can u tell me easiest way to root it I have tried z4root and poot but not worked.
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Read my signature.
gingerbreak works on 2.2
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Have you try to use Paranoid ROM?
I've seen the guy from my local forum use BBM from his Dell Streak 5