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I have just bought one for my dad, who needs my help quite frequently for basic functions. Is there an app out there, that I can use to see and control his screen. The only simple one I have come across is webkey, but that will only work for rooted tabs. Being remote, it is going to be a real challenge to root this, so just curious if anyone can point me to a good app for remotely managing the app. Thanks a lot.
try droid vnc server beta
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try droid vnc server beta
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This one also says 'It needs a rooted device'
remote access to unrooted Android devices
Unless the stock rom has remote access backed in then you will not be able to do this without a rooted device. We use Bomgar where we work and before Android and iOS we used to remote to windows phones all the time. Now the system file on these are more locked down on stock. If you search bomgar and ios you will see that Bomgar has a patition out there for users to sign. Right now only providers can use there software to rmote to devices. Maybe this will chamge in the future but it depends onthe rom and who is selling the device.
Being a techincal security guru, I like the more locked down phones, but it does come at a cost. As these roms and devices mature more, I'm sure a dev will figure out a way to do this without compromising the security of the device.
tave a look at this:
Removed ,hope he grabed it.
I think you might want to remove that link sharpish.
awww now my curiosity has the best of me lol
Hello,
I have been reading many threads about rooting and sideloading and a bit confused.
I am assuming that rooting will void the warranty. Is this correct?.
Now if I sideload apps, could a software update remove the ability to sideload and remove any previous programs installed?.
Any other advantages to rooting other than having access to the full market?.
Thanks
Polar99.
Additional Question about Android Market
I would like to piggyback on this thread as I too am considering rooting my Nook to gain access to the Android Market. However, I'm reluctant to take this step as it voids the warranty, and I would only be willing to do so if I'm guaranteed access to the market.
This is my first Android-based device, so I have no other access to the market. When I try to download apps from the market webpage right now (no root) it says: "There are no Android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account." So, here's my question:
If I root my Nook and browse the market using the app, will it automatically detect that I have an android device and allow me to download apps, or will I still have to "link" a device to the account? If I would have to link a device, is there a way to link the rooted Nook, or do I need another, legitimate android-based device (phone, etc.) in order to create an account. Or, for a 3rd option, is there a workaround to the linking requirement?
Thank you in advance for the replies! And, to help the original poster despite my very noob-ish status on this forum, I believe that rooting DOES void the warranty.
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I would only be willing to do so if I'm guaranteed access to the market.
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Noone here will give you a guarantee!
We can only provide empiric data, and so far that says you will most probably (pretty close to certainty) be able to access the Android Market if you root your device following the directions given.
Thanks for the heads-up! I realize that nothing is a guarantee in this sort of situation, but I just want to make sure that I would *most likely* be able to access the market without access to some other android device.
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Thanks for the heads-up! I realize that nothing is a guarantee in this sort of situation, but I just want to make sure that I would *most likely* be able to access the market without access to some other android device.
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Indeed! I am a Mac user and followed the instructions in the Mac thread and it worked first time, without any major problems. First time I rooted (done it a couple of times because I have fiddled beyond my level of comprehension so I have needed a factory reset) it worked perfectly! It will root your tablet and give you access to Android Market.
Good luck and let us know how it works out for you! IF you run in to trouble you can always post, people here are generally friendly if your question is humble (as in "not demanding")
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For anyone that might know: should I wait until I get my SD card before rooting the Nook, or is it okay to do it without one installed? (Or maybe it makes no difference - I don't know )
polar99 said:
Hello,
Any other advantages to rooting other than having access to the full market?.
Polar99.
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I too would love to hear some opinions on root over simply sideloading. I've been sideloading and been pretty happy, and wondering the benefits of rooting beyond acess to market. I'm not the most techy guy, and sideloading is working pretty well.
My dad has been side-loading on his Nook Tablet for a bit now. It wasn't difficult for him to get started when I directed him to the threads on xda. He installed the Amazon Market without issue and is enjoying purchasing apps and the benefits of the "Free App of the Day". He is using SlideMe instead of Google's official Android Market. He loves the ability to switch between the Nook's stock interface and his Go Launcher setup. He even has most of the Google Apps running (excluding the Market and a couple others).
All this without root.
What root gets you at this point is primarily the ability to tinker with system files and to get some items items working, such as the Google Market, that might not work otherwise. It will also allow you to do backups of all your apps using Titanium Backup or similar apps which is great. If, however, you can live without that, side-loading is a great way to avoid getting worried about "voiding your warranty".
That said, Indirect now has a one-click un-root on the market that will take your Nook Tablet back to stock and B&N will be none the wiser in the event you want to send yours back.
Shaftakovich said:
I would like to piggyback on this thread as I too am considering rooting my Nook to gain access to the Android Market. However, I'm reluctant to take this step as it voids the warranty, and I would only be willing to do so if I'm guaranteed access to the market.
This is my first Android-based device, so I have no other access to the market. When I try to download apps from the market webpage right now (no root) it says: "There are no Android phones associated with this account. Please sign in with a different account." So, here's my question:
If I root my Nook and browse the market using the app, will it automatically detect that I have an android device and allow me to download apps, or will I still have to "link" a device to the account? If I would have to link a device, is there a way to link the rooted Nook, or do I need another, legitimate android-based device (phone, etc.) in order to create an account. Or, for a 3rd option, is there a workaround to the linking requirement?
Thank you in advance for the replies! And, to help the original poster despite my very noob-ish status on this forum, I believe that rooting DOES void the warranty.
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Double piggy-backing....
I have just rooted my Nook Tablet successfully, but not get the same message as you're getting...basically that I don't have any android device associated with my Google Account...
How can I associate the Nook Tablet to the Android Market????
Thanks!,
Gizmo
PlacidCat said:
My dad has been side-loading on his Nook Tablet for a bit now. It wasn't difficult for him to get started when I directed him to the threads on xda. He installed the Amazon Market without issue and is enjoying purchasing apps and the benefits of the "Free App of the Day". He is using SlideMe instead of Google's official Android Market. He loves the ability to switch between the Nook's stock interface and his Go Launcher setup. He even has most of the Google Apps running (excluding the Market and a couple others).
All this without root.
What root gets you at this point is primarily the ability to tinker with system files and to get some items items working, such as the Google Market, that might not work otherwise. It will also allow you to do backups of all your apps using Titanium Backup or similar apps which is great. If, however, you can live without that, side-loading is a great way to avoid getting worried about "voiding your warranty".
That said, Indirect now has a one-click un-root on the market that will take your Nook Tablet back to stock and B&N will be none the wiser in the event you want to send yours back.
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It isn't on the market yet because we would have to remove the paypal donation link. :| Wondering what to do because of it. I don't want to force people to donate to me, but I don't want to be completely left without a viable way to have some kind of cash flow.
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It isn't on the market yet because we would have to remove the paypal donation link. :| Wondering what to do because of it. I don't want to force people to donate to me, but I don't want to be completely left without a viable way to have some kind of cash flow.
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Whoops, sorry about that! I thought I had read a post about it being available but I most likely mis-read it in my excitement.
In any case, un-root is possible and makes rooting simply a choice of whether or not you want to do some additional tinkering, not whether or not you are afraid of the B&N wolf.
>It isn't on the market yet because we would have to remove the paypal donation link.
I wouldn't bother putting it on the Market. Peeps who know enough to root would already be here on XDA, and those who don't know, wouldn't have Market in the first place.
And not to dampen your enthusiasm.. while there may be enough in donations to get a small pizza, calling it a "cash flow" would be a bit optimistic. Your audience size is small, and their purse string is even smaller. Dean Gibson can probably tell you something about that. Just FYI.
I have a bit of a unique situation in that I work at B&N, who have no problem with employees rooting beyond the usual warranty void. Even with one-click unroot, my store woild know it was rooted, meaning to file a claim I'd most likely have to do it behind my store's back, and that sort of thing has a tendency to come back and bite you on the ass.
That said, is there an emulator on a rooted tab that would display the default NT ui?
What software diags do B&N techs use to service NTs? Can you provide a copy?
Dear Friends,
Hoping to find some fellow (unlucky) Good for Enterprise users here. More specifically, has anyone been able to use it on an Android device that Android 5.0 and up? My company unfortunately requires me to use the software to get to my Exchange email. I am a T-Mobile Note 3 User who is just tired of how lanky and heavy TouchWiz is, but do enjoy the hardware of my phone, every single bit!
Long story short, thinking of going to CM11 (KitKat) to make my device fast, but was wondering if there are any Good for Enterprise users here on Android 5.0 and up and if so, do you know if there is a way to use the app on a ROOTED device? AKA Hide root like we used on Xposed via RootCloak or GFE patch?
Would appreciate ANY help and advice! Thank you in advance for your responses!
*BUMP* Any input friends?
I'm no developer or anything but I have been "coping with limited success" for a while now. There is a thread XDA that uses xposed framework developed by "Phantasm4489" but its in a limbo phase at the moment.
1. The alpha build of PA 5, if installed without root ( user discretion now to root or not to) works fine. The only issue is that the ROM is quite bare bones. My point being ROMs built using those principles may work as long as you forfeit your root privileges.
2. If you have a browser access ( web login ) you can install GFE on an unroofed secondary device, and sync notifications across android devices through the push bullet app. You will be notified of new mails, but you will have to login through web. Not the best but it can work somewhat reasonably.
Hi,
Just joined a new company that requires Company Portal to access Outlook email and other apps on my phone.
Evidently even if you manage to hide root from Company Portal, a major requirement is having an encrypted device with Company Portal.
In order to get rooted 2 years ago, I ran Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt during the TWRP setup process so my rooted V30 is not encrypted.
Is there any way to restore encryption now without losing my current stock rom settings and data and maintain root?
I see in LG Settings there is an option to Encrypt Phone and SD Card. Will this suffice so I can maintain root?
If not, is there a way to root and install a TWRP LG Pie Rom zip without disabling encryption via Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt?
Or is it impossible to root and use Company Portal with the LG V30?
Thanks in advance!
Drew
drewcu said:
Hi,
Just joined a new company that requires Company Portal to access Outlook email and other apps on my phone.
Evidently even if you manage to hide root from Company Portal, a major requirement is having an encrypted device with Company Portal.
In order to get rooted 2 years ago, I ran Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt during the TWRP setup process so my rooted V30 is not encrypted.
Is there any way to restore encryption now without losing my current stock rom settings and data and maintain root?
I see in LG Settings there is an option to Encrypt Phone and SD Card. Will this suffice so I can maintain root?
If not, is there a way to root and install a TWRP LG Pie Rom zip without disabling encryption via Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt?
Or is it impossible to root and use Company Portal with the LG V30?
Thanks in advance!
Drew
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My only solution to this problem was to always use webaccess for my Office365 account. They required the portal to use Outlook, and part of that requirement allowed them to wipe my phone whenever they wanted. It's my phone, so I guess I won't use their email on my phone.
Sounds like your company has yet another behind-the-times IT department (like mine). Although mine is also exceptionally incompetent. They left the IMAP server open and available to anyone, so I simply used that with my GMail account instead. It did require me to allow them admin access to the phone to wipe the device (though I think they can only wipe the email) but it worked. They finally got modern and are using 365 so now it doesn't need these extra things. You might want to see if you can wait until they wake up and/or see if there is a server you can connect to. I found mine because, due to their incompetence, they let iPhones use the native mail app via the IMAP server, but forced Android to use some garbage 3rd party software for it instead of GMail. In both cases, the IMAP server was easily seen and setup.
I also have a company phone, so I don't really care if they can wipe it. Again, if I was going to take data from them, I'd do it before I announced I was leaving like any reasonably-intelligent person... so wiping accomplishes nothing. But, again, these IT departments are really dumb and incompetent...
To answer your initial question, I don't know if there's a way to re-enable encryption... but I also don't think that this is something that they can detect anyway. I'm thinking it may be something else they're tripping over. You may consider installing Magisk, and then using it's HIDE feature to see if you can hide the typical "signs" of rooting/etc. It may be good enough to get you working. If it doesn't you simply remove Magisk again (or just stop using it)?
Thanks @ldeveraux and @schwinn8 for the replies!
I know we use Office 365 but I'll have to ask about web access to see if that is possible. It's my phone and supposedly it's "not required" that I install Company Portal/Outlook/Teams on my phone, but I would be the only one at the firm not doing that and I am a new hire so... kind of a bad look so soon. I am not really comfortable with them being able to wipe my phone either, but that wasn't mentioned to me... yet.
Also would have to ask about IMAP, but I doubt it. No company phones either which is fine.
Pretty sure it is the encryption (or lack thereof in my case) that is the issue. I already use Magisk v22 and Hide all signs of Company Portal and pass Safetynet. On another XDA thread where Company Portal is discussed, I followed the suggested steps to no avail:
1) Install Company Portal V5.0.5067.0
2) Magisk Hide ALL of Company Portal checkboxes
3) Reboot
4) Still pass SafetyNet
5) Launch Company Portal
While the app doesn't specify the encryption as to why it cannot get me to the login screen, that's the only conclusion I can reach at the moment.
Did either of you try or look into encryption built into the LG/Android Settings menu? I don't want to do that unless I know of someone with success with it, but am curious if that would allow root via Magisk Hide, encryption, and Company Portal.
Thanks!
Drew
No I stopped carrying when they wanted permission to wipe. If the company was paying for the phone, that's one thing. If I'm using my personal phone for company use, that doesn't fly.
I realize this doesn't answer your question at all, but it's food for thought!
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No I stopped carrying when they wanted permission to wipe. If the company was paying for the phone, that's one thing. If I'm using my personal phone for company use, that doesn't fly.
I realize this doesn't answer your question at all, but it's food for thought!
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Carrying? Or did you mean caring?
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Carrying? Or did you mean caring?
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Caring. I don't own a firearm.
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Caring. I don't own a firearm.
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Lol got it. Just making sure I understood what you meant.
Assume you didn't look into the LG rom based encryption then?
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Lol got it. Just making sure I understood what you meant.
Assume you didn't look into the LG rom based encryption then?
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No at that point I gave up
Hopefully you'll get some help here, because I'd still like to be able to actually use Outlook on my phone!
So, a quick search says that there are modules available and other things that need to be tried. One further thing is to hide root from various Google modules. I remember hearing that for some other apps... that you had to hide root from Google services. I also remember hearing that, in some cases, you have to clear data for apps after the hide, because they apparently save the rooted-status in their own data.
Basically, I doubt encryption is the issue... root is usually the problem and can be a bit tricky to hide properly. You just have to try things. I have never seen any app fail to work because encryption is not available... it's always a root-detection issue.
As for the IMAP thing, the point there is to use the settings you find elsewhere to access email. You're not asking IT for permission or info... you just need to find it. Most Microsoft-based IT places I have worked with have zero clue that this is open and offered, so once you find it it's just a matter of plugging in the right info.
As for the web-interface, again, my company (for example) doesn't tell us that we can use the Outlook app, but it works with no tricks whatsoever. Plug in your company account info and it figures out how to connect.
FYI, the module I mentioned above is referenced here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ne-company-portal-hider-intune-hider.3780451/ - no idea if this is necessary or even the latest version...
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So, a quick search says that there are modules available and other things that need to be tried. One further thing is to hide root from various Google modules. I remember hearing that for some other apps... that you had to hide root from Google services. I also remember hearing that, in some cases, you have to clear data for apps after the hide, because they apparently save the rooted-status in their own data.
Basically, I doubt encryption is the issue... root is usually the problem and can be a bit tricky to hide properly. You just have to try things. I have never seen any app fail to work because encryption is not available... it's always a root-detection issue.
As for the IMAP thing, the point there is to use the settings you find elsewhere to access email. You're not asking IT for permission or info... you just need to find it. Most Microsoft-based IT places I have worked with have zero clue that this is open and offered, so once you find it it's just a matter of plugging in the right info.
As for the web-interface, again, my company (for example) doesn't tell us that we can use the Outlook app, but it works with no tricks whatsoever. Plug in your company account info and it figures out how to connect.
FYI, the module I mentioned above is referenced here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ne-company-portal-hider-intune-hider.3780451/ - no idea if this is necessary or even the latest version...
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Thanks for the suggestions! I actually have tried different modules without success both for EdXposed (Security Bypass for Company Portal with CP version 5.0.3013.0 and Bypass Exchange Policies). The closest I got was with CP 5.0.3013.0 where I could enter my credentials but then wasn't able to agree to the Terms and Conditions which is a prerequisite and got denied. The module you linked is no longer needed if using Magisk v22 with Magisk Hide according to people in the thread.
Have also tried the Outlook app, Outlook web access, Gmail, IMAP, POP3 -- all smartly locked down tight for compliance reasons by our IT. Just says to enroll with Company Portal after entering credentials.
Pretty sure the Magisk Hide route would work with V5.0.5067.0 if my device was encrypted. Company Portal checks whether your device is encrypted supposedly, so either you have to actually be encrypted or find a way around that. I am willing to be encrypted if I can still be rooted...
Not sure where to go from here to get it working without an encrypted device... but thanks for the post.
As I recall, Xposed is not really working or functional these days. The module I linked to is a Magisk module. Did you follow those directions, because it sounds like you didn't.
It sounds like you don't want to believe me... that's fine. I believe the answers are out there and it's just a root issue. You probably just need to do more reading and searching. I'm going to give up since you don't seem to want to hear it from me, so good luck...
If you find a solution, do let people know on this thread so the matter can be closed/completed.
I remember the other reason I stopped trying to use the Company Portal. They need permission to wipe my phone, which obviously I'm not cool with. Whenever I disable the Company Portal, mail stops working. That's reason enough!
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As I recall, Xposed is not really working or functional these days. The module I linked to is a Magisk module. Did you follow those directions, because it sounds like you didn't.
It sounds like you don't want to believe me... that's fine. I believe the answers are out there and it's just a root issue. You probably just need to do more reading and searching. I'm going to give up since you don't seem to want to hear it from me, so good luck...
If you find a solution, do let people know on this thread so the matter can be closed/completed.
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Yes I am aware that the module you linked is for Magisk. If you go to the OP, all the text is struck through because the module is no longer necessary as I stated previously.
[MODULE] Microsoft Intune Company Portal Hider (Intune Hider)
Introduction: Simple Module To Hide The Root From Microsoft Intune Company Portal. - After The Installation & 1st Reboot, It Hides The Rooting & Disables Itself [P.S. Disabling Itself For Some Versions] - Enabling This Module From Magisk Manager...
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It is easy to be confused. The "module" from the OP was needed before but is now obsolete since Magisk has gained the necessary functionality alone without the "module". There is no "module" in Magisk. Now go back and read the past posts over 2 months. First you hide Magisk so it passes safety net. Then you go into superuser MagiskHide, go into the app (eg Portal) and check everything. You need to understand that they updated Portal so you need to downgrade it so Portal will work again. You need to understand to use latest Magisk and Magisk changed. Not surprising you are confused. Now perhaps you have figured out the basics and the details will make sense.
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So I followed the steps on page 23 of that thread using Intune Company Portal V5.0.5067.0:
[MODULE] Microsoft Intune Company Portal Hider (Intune Hider)
Introduction: Simple Module To Hide The Root From Microsoft Intune Company Portal. - After The Installation & 1st Reboot, It Hides The Rooting & Disables Itself [P.S. Disabling Itself For Some Versions] - Enabling This Module From Magisk Manager...
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Good call on the GitHub ticket.
For anyone reading, this is the process I followed:
1) Uninstall the existing Intune Company Portal
2) Reboot
3) Install the APK listed above or from another source (I used APK Pure). DO NOT LAUNCH INTUNE!
4) Before launching, go into Magisk and make sure to hide ALL of it as well as all of Outlook, OneNote, OneDrive, Teams, etc. (whatever uses your company credentails)
5) Launch InTune and set it up.
6) Disable auto-updates of the app as he stated in Google Play Store.
7) Profit.
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The result is I am still stuck on the "Open the Intune App" screen... No other error messages related to rooting, but cannot even get to log in or download Outlook or Teams. Have tried downloading the Intune App from the Play Store and that tells me to open Company Portal... so going in circles... I'm told I need to only use Company Portal from our IT firm.
I went through the same Magisk module thread and found others talking about not having encryption, and they are in the same position as I am -- following the steps or using the Magisk module (before Magisk v22) and still not getting CP to work.
Thus I am 99.9% sure I cannot use CP because I don't have encryption. You don't have to believe me, but I have tried everything I can think of save for using LG's Encrypt Phone feature... Would do it if I got confirmation I could stay rooted, not lose my data/settings, and then use Company Portal.
But yes, I absolutely would post the solution here if I find it!
Thanks anyway.
I'm rooted and have long had corporate email (two different companies) on a paid app called "Nine". First company was Fortune 100 global media company, and 2nd (past 3 years) is smaller but still has aggressive IT policies. Neither paid for my phone. I specifically remember with the first having to agree they could wipe the phone if it was lost -- but I think due to me being rooted they wouldn't be able to.
Nine - Email & Calendar - Apps on Google Play
Nine is a full-fledged and intuitive email app which supports Exchange and IMAP
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ChazzMatt said:
I'm rooted and have long had corporate email (two different companies) on a paid app called "Nine". First company was Fortune 100 global media company, and 2nd (past 3 years) is smaller but still has aggressive IT policies. Neither paid for my phone. I specifically remember with the first having to agree they could wipe the phone if it was lost -- but I think due to me being rooted they wouldn't be able to.
Nine - Email & Calendar - Apps on Google Play
Nine is a full-fledged and intuitive email app which supports Exchange and IMAP
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Just tried Nine and it also tells me after entering my credentials that I need to use Company Portal (just like Outlook and Web Access).
Do these two companies you worked for use Intune Company Portal to manage policies?
drewcu said:
Just tried Nine and it also tells me after entering my credentials that I need to use Company Portal (just like Outlook and Web Access).
Do these two companies you worked for use Intune Company Portal to manage policies?
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I just installed portal and outlook, added both as admin or whatever it's called, and have a fully functioning inbox. I don't know if I'll leave it like this for the reasons I mentioned, but it works. I have the latest twrp, latest magisk, and adguard installed. I have no clue if I'm encrypted or not, how would I check? But I was trying to use the older version of Portal and it kept looping, so I installed the latest from the play store and we're up and running.
@ChazzMatt do you really think they can't wipe if they so desire? How could we confirm that? I surely don't want to give them that ability considering if you disable their permissions it stops working completely.
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I just installed portal and outlook, added both as admin or whatever it's called, and have a fully functioning inbox. I don't know if I'll leave it like this for the reasons I mentioned, but it works. I have the latest twrp, latest magisk, and adguard installed. I have no clue if I'm encrypted or not, how would I check? But I was trying to use the older version of Portal and it kept looping, so I installed the latest from the play store and we're up and running.
@ChazzMatt do you really think they can't wipe if they so desire? How could we confirm that? I surely don't want to give them that ability considering if you disable their permissions it stops working completely.
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For Nine I only needed the email server name.
For the previous Fortune 100 company I worked for, it was almost 4 years ago so I don't remember all the details but I remember granting them the privilege but I don't remember adding them as an admin.
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I just installed portal and outlook, added both as admin or whatever it's called, and have a fully functioning inbox. I don't know if I'll leave it like this for the reasons I mentioned, but it works. I have the latest twrp, latest magisk, and adguard installed. I have no clue if I'm encrypted or not, how would I check? But I was trying to use the older version of Portal and it kept looping, so I installed the latest from the play store and we're up and running.
@ChazzMatt do you really think they can't wipe if they so desire? How could we confirm that? I surely don't want to give them that ability considering if you disable their permissions it stops working completely.
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Company Portal didn't used to work for you, correct? What changed? Can you please list your steps this time?
I think to check encryption you use Termux and enter 'getprop ro.crypto.state' -- mine says unencrypted.
One other question is what version of Twrp are you using? I'm using one from 2 years ago -- 3.2.3 and never wanted to bother with the Pie one 3.3 or whatever is latest... Might have something to do with it...
I decided to root ky Pixel 6 and found out that i couldn't get around the security from germans banking apps.
simple soloution. have magisk/zygisk installed and set the root mode to "user" in the settings of magisk manager.
then go to your settings and setup a second user (wont have root) install your banking apps and enjoy the ability to use them with an rooted device
edit: this method was tested for Sparkasse app's
• S-Push Tan
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IndubidablyStoned said:
I decided to root ky Pixel 6 and found out that i couldn't get around the security from germans banking apps.
simple soloution. have magisk/zygisk installed and set the root mode to "user" in the settings of magisk manager.
then go to your settings and setup a second user (wont have root) install your banking apps and enjoy the ability to use them with an rooted device
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I'm not being critical of your choices but why would anyone chance having a banking institution or any financial app including
GPay on a rooted device? Isn't there a much greater chance of being compromised by an app or inadvertent web link? And if the banking institution sees that a bogus user was created what are the chances of recovering funds obtained through fraudulent activity? I understand why people want to root don't get me wrong, but money transfers and transactions on that device seem a little reckless to me. But I could be wrong, just curious of the thinking here.
i Understand, but if you want to have an custom DAC like Viper4Android you kinda need root. my intention isnt to do fraudulent activity, as i mentioned in the Post you dont have Root access on that second user
IndubidablyStoned said:
i Understand, but if you want to have an custom DAC like Viper4Android you kinda need root. my intention isnt to do fraudulent activity, as i mentioned in the Post you dont have Root access on that second user
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You misunderstood my concern wrt banking activity. I didn't suggest that you were doing anything fraudulent but if you were the victim of fraudulent activity would the bank still cover you with a bogus account you created? I don't know if what you did was entirely proper or not but that was not the issue I thought you might be concerned about.
As I said, I completely understand your desire to root be it V4A or DAC or even ad blocking. I just wonder the benefit vs the exposure if you are using banking apps. Without financial transactions occurring on the phone I doubt there is much to worry about other than what we are all concerned about root or not.
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I'm not being critical of your choices but why would anyone chance having a banking institution or any financial app including
GPay on a rooted device? Isn't there a much greater chance of being compromised by an app or inadvertent web link? And if the banking institution sees that a bogus user was created what are the chances of recovering funds obtained through fraudulent activity? I understand why people want to root don't get me wrong, but money transfers and transactions on that device seem a little reckless to me. But I could be wrong, just curious of the thinking here.
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Considering DirtyPipe exists and has not been patched yet (plus how long it already took to even acknowledge the problem in the first place), rooting is the least of our worries when it comes to monetary transactions/banking and android.
Bear in mind that DirtyPipe is only one elevation exploit that we've heard about. And for every disclosed vulnerability there are dozens of others that nobody's aware of. The market for rooted android users is very small compared to the overall android phone-user market. Creating exploits specifically targeting rooted phones would be a waste of time and effort compared to working on privilege escalation on non-rooted devices; from a hacker's perspective you want to hit the largest volume of targets in cases like these.
I've been rooting my phones for 10 years now, and my usage of banking/fintech apps on my devices has increased consistently. Applying common sense opsec/infosec practices can negate a large percentage of the perceived risk that root access exposes you to.
On the other hand, if someone wants to target you specifically, as an individual, you're screwed, root or no root, unless you're aware of the risks that come with technology and the pitfalls of android (iOS can be perceived as more secure but when it comes to individual targeting/attacks, there are expensive tools made by some of the world's top intelligence organizations that can wreck havoc on iOS as well)
TL;DR you're never truly safe, root or no root.
Unfortunately that doesn't worked for me
I tested the following apps:
SecureGo
VR SecureGo
Mobiles bezahlen
Every App doesn't launch. Sparkasse is quitting instantly and SecureGo Apps are stuck with their logo.
On the rootet user I get the Browser-warning (of SecureGo) that my device doesn't meet the security requierements. So far so good, but on the non-rooted uses i would have expect that they're working.
Any Idea? I'm on April Build.
i dont know currently, i dont have root anymore since i had to update to the April Update. i'll update if there is something that can be done
Maybe you could confirm that these Apps launch on April build without root? That could help to research the problem a bit. Thanks!
hanni2301 said:
...but on the non-rooted uses i would have expect that they're working.
Any Idea? I'm on April Build.
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Maybe these apps are not supporting fully Android 12?
I have an app which, until recently, was freezing when the location was enabled. To be exact, when "Use precise location" was enabled. Only location access the app was not freezing, but couldn't get the coordinates.
Maye this is a similar situation here.
Cheers
Tom
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Unfortunately that doesn't worked for me
I tested the following apps:
SecureGo
VR SecureGo
Mobiles bezahlen
Every App doesn't launch. Sparkasse is quitting instantly and SecureGo Apps are stuck with their logo.
On the rootet user I get the Browser-warning (of SecureGo) that my device doesn't meet the security requierements. So far so good, but on the non-rooted uses i would have expect that they're working.
Any Idea? I'm on April Build.
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I managed to get the VR Secure Go app working by doing the steps in the op plus using ice box and freezing magisk and the bank apps. I'm on April, too and I'm using radioactive kernel. Rooted stock kernel works as well on my device, but I had issues with the bank apps on some other kernels.
So to confirm, you need to freeze magisk on the rooted user and you're able to use the bank apps on the second (non rooted) user?
On which user you would freeze the bank apps? I doesn't have them installed on the rooted user.
Thanks in advance that you can definitely confirm its not the fault of April built.
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So to confirm, you need to freeze magisk on the rooted user and you're able to use the bank apps on the second (non rooted) user?
On which user you would freeze the bank apps? I doesn't have them installed on the rooted user.
Thanks in advance that you can definitely confirm its not the fault of April built.
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I only have one user (the rooted user). I've done the following steps:
1. Configure magisk: activate Zygisk and setup deny list for the banking apps
2. Hide magisk app
3. Freeze magisk and banking apps with Ice Box
ok, that is the normal way which is different to the approach the thread starter has chosen.
I use deny list plus hide my applist and works fine with Sparkasse, s-push and mobil bezahlen no need to freeze or use a second user profile
How do you do that, hide applist?
You can bypass it by
Download App Named Shelter from Play store.
The App will create work profile and you can bypass any bank or app you facing issue with it.
When completed create work profile you can clone Bank App and use if.
As Information, It works out of the Box with Magisk denylist,
You only need to Install Ice Box and hide Magisk Manager, even if it is using a random name, "Mobiles Bezahlen" would detect it.
Magisk + Ice Box is sufficient on latest Miui 13 as well!
Regards!
Not sure but I think island could help not sure though as I'm not rooted the app is made by greenify
Only as info, these 2 Apps, Postbank Finanzassistent and Postbank BestSign working by default on a rooted device.
I like Postbank