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Is there a way to root without flashing an insecure kernel?
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shadowskorch said:
Is there a way to root without flashing an insecure kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
Thanks a bunch entropy. But i was thinking more along the lines of using superoneclick or something on stock kernel. I've never rooted a Samsung device. I guess the atrix devs made stuff TOO easy.
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shadowskorch said:
Thanks a bunch entropy. But i was thinking more along the lines of using superoneclick or something on stock kernel. I've never rooted a Samsung device. I guess the atrix devs made stuff TOO easy.
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The devs working on Samsung make it pretty easy too. Odin and One-Click Root have helped me with my original SGS many, many times. Hopefully, we'll see something similar for the SGSII, if it isn't out already.
Yeah, what happened to the good ol days of putting a root file named update.zip and going in to stock recovery to use it?
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shadowskorch said:
Thanks a bunch entropy. But i was thinking more along the lines of using superoneclick or something on stock kernel. I've never rooted a Samsung device. I guess the atrix devs made stuff TOO easy.
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Atrix is not easy haha. this is my second Smasung. once you get to know odin you will reaize its a life saver and sooo easy. you cant brick these things lol
abacon15 said:
Yeah, what happened to the good ol days of putting a root file named update.zip and going in to stock recovery to use it?
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i'm pretty sure you can't do that anymore because those flaws were patched.
I'm pretty new to the samsung rooting world, this is my first real samsung device. What the heck is odin? What is the difference in rooting using superoneclick and Entropy512's method? Sorry for the newb question.
abacon15 said:
Yeah, what happened to the good ol days of putting a root file named update.zip and going in to stock recovery to use it?
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Stock recovery won't flash ZIPs not signed by Samsung.
On older devices, the road to CWM that was easiest was usually:
Root, replace recovery with a hacked version that disabled signing checks
However, in later versions of Gingerbread, all of the usual methods of rooting were closed because malware was using the same holes. As a result, SOC is unable to root a device without some "help", and on Samsung devices that "help" is an insecure kernel.
SysAdmNj said:
I'm pretty new to the samsung rooting world, this is my first real samsung device. What the heck is odin? What is the difference in rooting using superoneclick and Entropy512's method? Sorry for the newb question.
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Odin is a program used by Samsung for device updates. It allows flashing of firmware in "download mode". The nice thing about this is that while it's easy to "softbrick" your phone with a bad kernel or corrupted system image, it is EXTREMELY difficult to corrupt the bootloaders used for download mode, especially on newer devices that go to extra lengths to protect their bootloaders from damage. As a result, for example, I know of a total of one hardbricked Infuse and that was the phone of a volunteer performing a dangerous experiment. There's an open-source reimplementation of Odin called Heimdall that a lot of people use, since Odin is Windows-only and Heimdall runs on Windows, MacOS, and Linux. I use heimdall because I run Linux.
The differences between rooting methods are not significant - different ways to achieve the end goal.
Insecure kernel + SuperOneClick - Will trigger "custom binary download" flags in the bootloader, but only requires fairly small downloads (maybe 20MB or so). Requires two steps (flashing the kernel, then SuperOneClicking)
Rooted system image (such as my unbrick) - Should not trigger "custom binary download" flags as the bootloader only seems to check the kernel for modifications. However it's a big download - around 250M if I recall correctly.
If you're going to eventually want to use Clockworkmod Recovery to install alternate ROMs and such, you'll have to install a custom kernel anyway. However my "unbrick" package is nice to have around if you hose up your system.
I'm planning on staying stock no custom kernel, rom or anything on that matter but I really need root. Don't really need CWM. Is there any other way to root beside going back to stock using Odin? I'm to lazy to set my phone back up. Or is superoneclick root working on a solution to easy root like on the infuse?
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Thanks entropy I'll try your stuff out
Dxtra said:
I'm planning on staying stock no custom kernel, rom or anything on that matter but I really need root. Don't really need CWM. Is there any other way to root beside going back to stock using Odin? I'm to lazy to set my phone back up. Or is superoneclick root working on a solution to easy root like on the infuse?
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In terms of "back to stock" - it means "back to stock firmware" - it won't touch your data partition, so if you're already on stock firmware, you should retain all your data.
shadowskorch said:
Thanks entropy I'll try your stuff out
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I've had no issues with Entropy's stock+root package. If anything goes wrong, just flash this and your good to go
Is there a root for 2.3.6 yet? I've been searching and haven't seen any? I've also checked online ...
robertmoore208 said:
Is there a root for 2.3.6 yet? I've been searching and haven't seen any? I've also checked online ...
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I'm still waiting also lol, I just came over from Sprint and I messed up by updating to 2.3.6...oh well just wait a few days or weeks.
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Just Odin to kh7 root and install a custom ROM with 2.3.6
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robertmoore208 said:
Is there a root for 2.3.6 yet? I've been searching and haven't seen any? I've also checked online ...
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Custom kernel, or flashing vlara's prerooted system image from the UCKK6 leak thread.
It's just like the days before zergRush - get used to custom kernels and rooted system images being the only way to root.
Entropy512 said:
Custom kernel, or flashing vlara's prerooted system image from the UCKK6 leak thread.
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Have you tried this? vlara's download does not contain a tar. It is named system.img, and I tared it and tried to flash it, and the flash fails immediately, just like the UCKK6 system dump I made myself, so I would guess that his dump has not been prepared to flash.
If I have time this morning I'll make Odin flashable 2.3.6 with root
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I have a tested package now, just a matter of uploading it... I'll likely add it to my "return to stock" thread
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Entropy512 said:
I have a tested package now, just a matter of uploading it... I'll likely add it to my "return to stock" thread
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There you go...now I can close Ubuntu lol
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Entropy512 said:
I have a tested package now, just a matter of uploading it... I'll likely add it to my "return to stock" thread
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You didn't wait until after New Years...
In the mean time, at least I have cygwin installed.
creepyncrawly said:
You didn't wait until after New Years...
In the mean time, at least I have cygwin installed.
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To test some of the problem reports I needed to run it. Of course, this is bad for some because I've established that the bluetooth HID problems are not the kernel - or if it is, the stock KK6 kernel is just as broken so there's no easy way to figure out how to fix.
Uploading it is going to be a *****, as it always is. I'm not doing it until the family is asleep.
Mac (10.7) Root Method Needed
I really need a mac root method for my ATT Samsung Gallaxy SII (sgh-i777) . . . the battery drain is killing me. XP
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I need an unroot from mac, incase I need to return.
aaronlong said:
I really need a mac root method for my ATT Samsung Gallaxy SII (sgh-i777) . . . the battery drain is killing me. XP
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I need an unroot from mac, incase I need to return.
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I suggest doing some searching... Although unfortunately, many people have had issues with Heimdall on 10.7 (not with 10.6 and below)...
Can I go back to 2.3.4
Do you know how to go back to 2.3.4 from 2.3.6? Do you have a link or at least something to go off of?
aaronlong said:
Do you know how to go back to 2.3.4 from 2.3.6? Do you have a link or at least something to go off of?
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Did it yesterday ..took like 10 mins..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18630030#post18630030
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Prerooted UCKK6 packages will be a while longer... I tried to upload a few minutes ago but it seems like it crashed the router. Might be coincidence.
Will reattempt tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-2Z2dKsuio&feature=player_embedded
I just did this yesterday and it worked great on 2.3.6
Cobra302 said:
I just did this yesterday and it worked great on 2.3.6
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I am worried about doing that because it was intended for 2.3.4 .
I was as well. But it worked fine for me. I think worse case is that it will not root at all. LOL I could.be wrong though. But I have root and am running the latest unnamed rom.
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aaronlong said:
I am worried about doing that because it was intended for 2.3.4 .
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All it does is install a custom kernel - that particular one (zedo's) will probably break wifi.
If it does - flash the 12/21 version of my kernel and wifi will work.
The command line
Entropy512 said:
All it does is install a custom kernel - that particular one (zedo's) will probably break wifi.
If it does - flash the 12/21 version of my kernel and wifi will work.
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What would be the heimdal command line for your kernel?
P.S. Thanks a million!
Dear Members,
Can someone tell me / give me the reference to root my Samsung S2 I777 running on 4.1.2?
Basebadnversion -I777UCMD8
Note- I just want to get the root access only & don't want to flush anything
Thanks,
Android_lil
android_lil said:
Dear Members,
Can someone tell me / give me the reference to root my Samsung S2 I777 running on 4.1.2?
Basebadnversion -I777UCMD8
Note- I just want to get the root access only & don't want to flush anything
Thanks,
Android_lil
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Android_lil,
I had great success using the ExynosAbuse. Follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35512626
It is pretty much as simple as installing the APK. I think I stayed on the stock 4.1.2 for about a day before I started flashing other ROMs, but I didn't notice any problems...
Have fun!
--DarthSudo
android_lil said:
Dear Members,
Can someone tell me / give me the reference to root my Samsung S2 I777 running on 4.1.2?
Basebadnversion -I777UCMD8
Note- I just want to get the root access only & don't want to flush anything
Thanks,
Android_lil
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Check out the thread that was made for the new stock release. Apparently you can root with something called Framaroot. I've never used it but someone in that thread confirmed that it worked for them.
DarthSudo said:
Android_lil,
I had great success using the ExynosAbuse. Follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35512626
It is pretty much as simple as installing the APK. I think I stayed on the stock 4.1.2 for about a day before I started flashing other ROMs, but I didn't notice any problems...
Have fun!
--DarthSudo
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I am pretty sure they patched this exploit with the 4.0.4 udate. I don't think you will have any luck with ExynosAbuse. You will have to use more traditional methods. Start with the stickies in the q&a section of this forum.
Framaroot
Butchr said:
I am pretty sure they patched this exploit with the 4.0.4 udate. I don't think you will have any luck with ExynosAbuse. You will have to use more traditional methods. Start with the stickies in the q&a section of this forum.
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I used Framaroot. Just download the .apk file, install it, run the app, and choose the "Aragorn" exploit. It will run, then tell you that you need to restart. Very easy.
Butchr said:
I'm pretty sure they patched this exploit with the 4.0.4 udate. I don't think you will have any luck with ExynosAbuse. You will have to use more traditional methods. Start with the stickies in the q&a section of this forum.
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Now that you mention it, I was at 4.04, not 4.1.2. According to my notes XynosAbuse was successful for me. Regardless, it still means my experience doesn't help the OP, since it was the wrong version anyway.
Thanks!
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I read through more of the XynosAbuse thread and confirmed. Yes it works on 4.04, the patch was in 4.1.2. So, to the OP: XynosAbuse will not work for you. Sorry to mis-lead. Glad I could at least clarify what _won't_ work...
Framaroot worked for me using Aragorn exploit on newest stock 4.1.2 release via kies.
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sir_dwtc said:
I used Framaroot. Just download the .apk file, install it, run the app, and choose the "Aragorn" exploit. It will run, then tell you that you need to restart. Very easy.
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I have spent the last 3 hours trying to educate myself on all this stuff. I have an AT&T I777 running the 4.1.2 that AT&T released recently. It runs fine but I've read so much of the advantages of rooting and custom roms that I figured I'd give it a try. This couldn't have been easier! I understand that the way to understand if the root was successful, I should have the "Superuser" app which I do! The whole process took maybe 5 minutes! Thank you for posting this!
Well yes super user will be installed but that's just an app used to allow apps superuser access. That isn't what roots the phone or anything. You could have root access without having that app installed, it just would be far less secure because you need some way to regulate what apps can do what.
@Phalanx7621
Welcome back. Missed you around these parts this past month or so.
creepyncrawly said:
@Phalanx7621
Welcome back. Missed you around these parts this past month or so.
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Most of Team Pirate have moved on..
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brandonarev said:
Most of Team Pirate have moved on..
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Yeah, I figured that. It's getting lonely around here, lol. But moved on to where? That was Phalanx's first post in a month on xda. I see you've been on xda though.
How to root the latest samsung jb firmware other than framaroot app and any good kernel like siyah available for this stock jb update
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chacha123 said:
How to root the latest samsung jb firmware other than framaroot app and any good kernel like siyah available for this stock jb update
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I haven't heard of any other way of rooting. Framaroot has worked for almost everyone though. AJ Newkirk has recently posted a kernel with no swap that will work with stock 4.1.2. See the OP of the AJK kernel and use the third one.
creepyncrawly said:
Yeah, I figured that. It's getting lonely around here, lol. But moved on to where? That was Phalanx's first post in a month on xda. I see you've been on xda though.
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I haven't seen Clay in forever. Nick got a One but still posts here. Phalanx I guess is still here. And 122ninjas is still around I think. And Pirate still posts occasionally I see
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JB Kernel
creepyncrawly said:
I haven't heard of any other way of rooting. Framaroot has worked for almost everyone though. AJ Newkirk has recently posted a kernel with no swap that will work with stock 4.1.2. See the OP of the AJK kernel and use the third one.
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Thanks for reply. Is AJK kernel for stock jb as good as Ktoonsez kernel was for ICS(v 4.3.3 for ICS Best kernel to run on shostock2)
chacha123 said:
Thanks for reply. Is AJK kernel for stock jb as good as Ktoonsez kernel was for ICS(v 4.3.3 for ICS Best kernel to run on shostock2)
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No opinion, as I haven't used either one of them. But they are both based on Siyah, so my guess is yes.
How to flash aj kernel in stock jb or how to install cwm in stock jb. Where to find tar kernel for stock jb as i suppose all jb kernels are in cwm flash format.
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chacha123 said:
How to flash aj kernel in stock jb or how to install cwm in stock jb.
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Root with the framaroot app, then use Mobile Odin Lite or Mobile Odin Pro to install the custom kernel. Use the AJK version made for stock JB.
Where to find tar kernel for stock jb as i suppose all jb kernels are in cwm flash format.
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I doubt you'll find one. You could make it yourself. You need Linux, or cigwin, or it can actually be done on your phone if it's rooted and has busybox and terminal emulator.
creepyncrawly said:
Yeah, I figured that. It's getting lonely around here, lol. But moved on to where? That was Phalanx's first post in a month on xda. I see you've been on xda though.
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I'm back around after trying out the dark side for the last few months. I got my real estate license, and had been using....an iphone....lol. I had to try it. And ya know, its not all THAT terrible. But there are NO customization options, and it gets really boring. So after denying my inner nerd for the last few months, I decided to just be myself again and come back to what I love. I missed it around here. =D
Is there a way of going back to stock 4.1.2? I don't like the custom rom on my Note 2. I bought it off of CL and would like it stock. Thanks
Browse the forum, you'll find what you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock
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bmerrill63 said:
Browse the forum, you'll find what you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040264
[ODIN][VRALJB] Restore to Stock
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Isn't that link for 4.1.1...If I'm not mistaken, if I try to flash from VRALL4, Odin will stop responding at s boot?
MyEntityRemains said:
Is there a way of going back to stock 4.1.2? I don't like the custom rom on my Note 2. I bought it off of CL and would like it stock. Thanks
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There is a stock rom in the development section. It would be a lot easier to just flash that versus going all the way back to a "factory stock"
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I believe these are better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
I did what you are looking to do with no problem. Make sure you have a PIT file and a good I605_VRALJB_Restore.tar.md5 file. After you get it back just keep updating the phone over the air (not wifi) and you will be all set.
AlanPototsky said:
I believe these are better:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
I did what you are looking to do with no problem. Make sure you have a PIT file and a good I605_VRALJB_Restore.tar.md5 file. After you get it back just keep updating the phone over the air (not wifi) and you will be all set.
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Thanks. Just what I'm looking for.
MyEntityRemains said:
Thanks. Just what I'm looking for.
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Did you bother to browse the forums? Not to be a DB but you're literally already in the right forum to find the proper thread you need. In fact its the first sticky. Not to mention you ask this in Q&A. Questions and answers. Everything is "gimmie gimmie now" now a days. No more self-effort.
MyEntityRemains said:
Really? Don't wanna be a DB? Too late. I know I'm in the right section of the forum. As I said, I read if you tried to flash a stock rom with Odin, it would stop at S boot, if you already accepted the VRALL4 update. Not to be a DB, but I don't want a 5.5" boat anchor. I modified every smart phone I've ever owned, with most recent being the S3. I know Big Red screws with updates, so was getting feedback about going back to stock. If you don't want to help, fine. But don't chastise me for not wanting to bork my phone. Have a good evening.
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Had you read the sticky, or even the restore to stock thread, you'd be back on stock VRALL4 by now.
Hey guys, I am trying to get recovery and root off of my phone so I can get the phone back into un-voided warrenty state. I know the safestrap apk. does not fully remove it itself, and that there is an alternative way by using adb. Which I have never used but have it downloaded. I am just asking for some guidance here so I can do this properly, thanks in advance!
Jvodietz said:
Hey guys, I am trying to get recovery and root off of my phone so I can get the phone back into un-voided warrenty state. I know the safestrap apk. does not fully remove it itself, and that there is an alternative way by using adb. Which I have never used but have it downloaded. I am just asking for some guidance here so I can do this properly, thanks in advance!
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I think you would need to search for "Odin back to stock" I have run across threads on it occasionally.
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wtherrell said:
I think you would need to search for "Odin back to stock" I have run across threads on it occasionally.
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I was thinking the same thing. I have the stock .tar file and odin. My question then is, by doing this it will remove all of the recovery and root on my phone?
Jvodietz said:
I was thinking the same thing. I have the stock .tar file and odin. My question then is, by doing this it will remove all of the recovery and root on my phone?
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As I understand it, yes.
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Jvodietz said:
I was thinking the same thing. I have the stock .tar file and odin. My question then is, by doing this it will remove all of the recovery and root on my phone?
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Yes, it will. It'll put the stock recovery on your phone.
jd1639 said:
Yes, it will. It'll put the stock recovery on your phone.
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Root will be removed as well, correct?
Jvodietz said:
Root will be removed as well, correct?
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Yea your phone will have out of the box software
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