Hey i was just reading about AT&Ts "4g" network and how its just hsdpa+ for the first half of the year, and I read that hsdpa+ will be on the same bands as hsdpa/3g so my questions are:
What makes a phone utilize HSDPA+?
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Would the x10a support it?
**i searched and did not see any topics about this but if i missed it just post the url :3
donny101 said:
What makes a phone utilize HSDPA+?
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Would the x10a support it?
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1. The phone hardware.
2. Yes the X10a does support it. If you flash to generic FW,you will see an H rather than a 3G icon in the status bar. HSDPA+ is 3.5G.
Also, since this is a question, you should have posted it in the Q&A forum.
HSPA+ is just the faster version of HSPA and could be up to 84/22mb depending on configuration (but not that fast on ATT). HSPA+ is anything over a 14mb link speed. ATT has run 2 versions of HSPA, 3.6 and 7.2 and at this time all of the network should be at 7.2 and should in theory give you better than 3mb.
ATT HSPA+ due to the backhaul issues will not be faster than 6mb in most places according to them. http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-c...ionId=KB115947 That link has been broken, here's google's cache link of that page: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
Here's a link to PCWorld's testing of various networks in Feb 2010. http://www.pcworld.com/article/18959...ance_test.html
The X10 is capable of 7.2mb downloads but is not HSPA+. I live within a few hundred feet of a ATT tower, and get a signal strength of -65dB --85db and seldom get over 2620/1672kb according to Speednet. (Around 2.1mb)
AT&T says that the X10 is NOT HSPA 7.2 capable. The Captivate is also not listed but the HTC Aria is, and confirmed as 7.2 on the ATT website model specs but both Samsung and SE say the phone is 7.2 capable.
Metro NY is covered by a joint wifi from the 3 cable tv systems, Cablevision, Comcast and TWC they usually can give me 3mb+ on wifi. Considering that this is close to what the FCC is 'basic' internet speeds (though not as fast as the 30/5 mb in my home) it's way faster than my in-laws who have DSL.
wow sorry I forgot about the Q&A forum, I wrote this at 5am on no sleep ><
and thanks for the straightforward info
Hello all I just flashed to 2.3.4 after unlocking my bootloader. Im getting like 3 bars, usually 4 or 5. When i do speed tests on my 3G connection Im getting like 54KB/s normally its 200. Also another strange thing is that instead of saying H+ the data connection type says 3G. Is the 2.3.4 update compatible with HSPA+ or what? Is anyone else having the same issue and if so have you found any solutions? Thanks in advanced!
I am not seeing the same issue with speed however the H+ icon is not loaded in this build (image files) and even though it says 3G it's infact using HSPA+ if available in your area - I am seeing 700+ down / 300up with 2.3.4 after flash (Non-HSPA+ area)
Thanks I moved about 12 feet from my desk and I was pulling fasted download speeds lol anyway cant wait for the official release 2.3.4 is really nice!
Hi, I looked for this in all motorola forums but I couldn't find any real solution.
It seems the latest update to my home network (HSDPA to HSPA) is not well received by my phone. My battery is draining really fast since this upgrade.
Is there a way to enable ONLY HSDPA? I mean, HSPA is great for downloading and uploading, but battery life is really poor. I had very good battery life with HSDPA and I'd like to set my phone to this type of data connection.
Somebody told me to look for some entries in build.prop but I didn't find anything. Does someone know how to do it? Thanks
Menu key -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Select network ?
Check this out for battery improvement: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
ofek said:
Menu key -> Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile networks -> Select network ?
Check this out for battery improvement: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
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Hey, thanks for your help. Well, I'm not suffering battery draining for any other reason. I don't want to use 2G networks only. Just want to change HSPA to HSDPA. That way, I'll go back to having the usual battery consumption.
Any other suggestion?
HSPA is a term that encompasses High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA) - if your network was using HSDPA, it was an HSPA network.
Enhanced HSPA (HSPA+) is an enhancement to HSPA that enables download speeds of up to 21Mbps and beyond, up from the typical 7.2Mbps. The Atrix is a 14.4Mbps compatible HSPA+ device.
So you saying you don't want HSPA, but want HSDPA doesn't make any sense. Do you want to disable the increased upload speeds? (HSUPA) or the HSPA+ speed enhancements? (up to 14.4Mbps) I know Samsung have an option to disable certain parts of the network through a hidden network, no idea about the Atrix though.
opethfan3 said:
HSPA is a term that encompasses High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA) - if your network was using HSDPA, it was an HSPA network.
Enhanced HSPA (HSPA+) is an enhancement to HSPA that enables download speeds of up to 21Mbps and beyond, up from the typical 7.2Mbps. The Atrix is a 14.4Mbps compatible HSPA+ device.
So you saying you don't want HSPA, but want HSDPA doesn't make any sense. Do you want to disable the increased upload speeds? (HSUPA) or the HSPA+ speed enhancements? (up to 14.4Mbps) I know Samsung have an option to disable certain parts of the network through a hidden network, no idea about the Atrix though.
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Yes, I want to disable HSUPA (what makes it HSPA) since it's killing my battery. I found a lot of info on Samsung phones but I don't know how to do it in a Motorola mobile
Sorry to bother again. Any solution yet to prevent phone from going on HSPA and stay in HSDPA? Thanks in advance
Just for your information, I found some build.prop tweaks to set HSDPA only, but none of them worked. Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
joyo22 said:
Hi, I looked for this in all motorola forums but I couldn't find any real solution.
It seems the latest update to my home network (HSDPA to HSPA) is not well received by my phone. My battery is draining really fast since this upgrade.
Is there a way to enable ONLY HSDPA? I mean, HSPA is great for downloading and uploading, but battery life is really poor. I had very good battery life with HSDPA and I'd like to set my phone to this type of data connection.
Somebody told me to look for some entries in build.prop but I didn't find anything. Does someone know how to do it? Thanks
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BUMP... Still trying to set phone to HSDPA only... Any thoughts?
it can be done, it took me three weeks to figure this out. we had a flood come through here about three weeks ago and it did something to just one antenna on the tower, i dont know what it did but it prevented anybody using a phone on hsupa from using their internet on their phone, i called att multiple times on the issue with no fixing of the tower that was transmitting a bad hsupa signal, the same antenna was transmitting a good "3g" signal or "hsdpa" both of my 4g phones would work anywhere else in the world except for at my house where the bad hsupa signal was. so i knew i had to find a way to downgrade to hsdpa to get my phones operational again, no help from att as to when or even if they would fix the towers. att thought i was crazy because i was the only one complaining about it because everyone on 3g was unaffected, probably only a handful of houses on this one antenna, att locks you out of your phone from being able to go to 3g or 2g, all automatic. 3 weeks of this crap then one day i remembered when the atrix first came out hsupa was locked out, remember all the scoff att got for that one, so here's what i did to shut off hsupa and get my phone back running again:
1. make sure your bootloader is unlocked - not sure if this will brick your phone if it isn't
2. download these radio packages http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V0LDOGFJ
3. flash the one radio that says att shipping radio or something like that through rsd lite (this is the original radio that shipped with the atrix) and don't worry its safe to flash if you are on gingerbread..
4. reboot your phone and you will be locked into 3g or hsdpa thus locking out hsupa
5. if you want to turn hsupa back on just flash the other file
this method worked great for me and got my phone working great again and no hsupa for me anymore until att gets the tower fixed which may be never since i'm probably the only one on this particular antenna with a hsupa phone.
all we need now is a nifty dev that can hack one of these radios to shut off automatic network selection for those of us that are stuck on it.
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it can be done, it took me three weeks to figure this out. we had a flood come through here about three weeks ago and it did something to just one antenna on the tower, i dont know what it did but it prevented anybody using a phone on hsupa from using their internet on their phone, i called att multiple times on the issue with no fixing of the tower that was transmitting a bad hsupa signal, the same antenna was transmitting a good "3g" signal or "hsdpa" both of my 4g phones would work anywhere else in the world except for at my house where the bad hsupa signal was. so i knew i had to find a way to downgrade to hsdpa to get my phones operational again, no help from att as to when or even if they would fix the towers. att thought i was crazy because i was the only one complaining about it because everyone on 3g was unaffected, probably only a handful of houses on this one antenna, att locks you out of your phone from being able to go to 3g or 2g, all automatic. 3 weeks of this crap then one day i remembered when the atrix first came out hsupa was locked out, remember all the scoff att got for that one, so here's what i did to shut off hsupa and get my phone back running again:
1. make sure your bootloader is unlocked - not sure if this will brick your phone if it isn't
2. download these radio packages http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V0LDOGFJ
3. flash the one radio that says att shipping radio or something like that through rsd lite (this is the original radio that shipped with the atrix) and don't worry its safe to flash if you are on gingerbread..
4. reboot your phone and you will be locked into 3g or hsdpa thus locking out hsupa
5. if you want to turn hsupa back on just flash the other file
this method worked great for me and got my phone working great again and no hsupa for me anymore until att gets the tower fixed which may be never since i'm probably the only one on this particular antenna with a hsupa phone.
all we need now is a nifty dev that can hack one of these radios to shut off automatic network selection for those of us that are stuck on it.
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Well, thanks a lot. I was able to set phone to HSDPA only by flashing the radio you provided. I can't test if it really decreases battery drain but I'm going to try tomorrow with regular use. Thanks a lot!
opethfan3 said:
HSPA is a term that encompasses High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA) - if your network was using HSDPA, it was an HSPA network.
Enhanced HSPA (HSPA+) is an enhancement to HSPA that enables download speeds of up to 21Mbps and beyond, up from the typical 7.2Mbps. The Atrix is a 14.4Mbps compatible HSPA+ device.
So you saying you don't want HSPA, but want HSDPA doesn't make any sense. Do you want to disable the increased upload speeds? (HSUPA) or the HSPA+ speed enhancements? (up to 14.4Mbps) I know Samsung have an option to disable certain parts of the network through a hidden network, no idea about the Atrix though.
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^^This guy gets it.^^
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^^This guy gets it.^^
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I can see why he called it hspa since this is the information displayed by the phone vs when the phone is on hsdpa. or what I call 3.5 g
voltmeter101 said:
I can see why he called it hspa since this is the information displayed by the phone vs when the phone is on hsdpa. or what I call 3.5 g
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Hey pal, your method worked! After flashing the old radio, the phone is on HSDPA only and battery life is way better, back to Froyo times. I don't really care about the enhanced upload. Download speeds are as good as they were on HSPA.
Thanks a lot.
Can you please upload those radio again? I'm suffering the same thing with my atrix. Thank you.
Could anyone tell me what is the speed of Photon on GSM data network, is it 7.2, 14.4, 21 MBps??
I have been looking for several hours now. Planning to get this phone as a GSM device for about $300
Also, does the Mobile Hotspot work on GSM 3G?
Thanks a lot.
is it 7.2 .
ok, thank you.
Thant is not too speedy, but good enough.
I am able to tether using GSM. FYI I am running Alien Rom, and although the rom works pretty well I don't get any signal bar indication on GSM. I do get a signal and data, just no bars showing in the notification.
Hey,
I'm running CM7 on a lg p509, and everything is perfect, just a small question. My upload rate when connected by hsdpa seems to be limited to 0.13MB/s, while download is fine , always above 1MB. Is there something with the radio, different phone version (p509 instead of p500)? I'm sure its something to do with my phone since I just tried my friends on the same network and his upload was higher. I don't think I ever flashed a new band, so its still on original radio. Just new rom, and on mobilicity in canada.
thanks for any help
vilator said:
Hey,
I'm running CM7 on a lg p509, and everything is perfect, just a small question. My upload rate when connected by hsdpa seems to be limited to 0.13MB/s, while download is fine , always above 1MB. Is there something with the radio, different phone version (p509 instead of p500)? I'm sure its something to do with my phone since I just tried my friends on the same network and his upload was higher. I don't think I ever flashed a new band, so its still on original radio. Just new rom, and on mobilicity in canada.
thanks for any help
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HSDPA is for high speed downloading while for high speed uploading,u need HSUPA which our phone doesnt have.This is the reason why uploading speed is less.
Our phone does'nt support
HSUPA-high speed uplink packet access
(responsible for high speed data upload)
Our phone only support
HSDPA - high speed downlink access
Sent from my LG-P500
CosmIcEXperia v3.1
goldenleaf-111206-LG
wow thats kinda weird. It doesnt really matter to me since I barely upload anything, but even my brothers crappy motorola spice has hsupa.