Could anyone tell me what is the speed of Photon on GSM data network, is it 7.2, 14.4, 21 MBps??
I have been looking for several hours now. Planning to get this phone as a GSM device for about $300
Also, does the Mobile Hotspot work on GSM 3G?
Thanks a lot.
is it 7.2 .
ok, thank you.
Thant is not too speedy, but good enough.
I am able to tether using GSM. FYI I am running Alien Rom, and although the rom works pretty well I don't get any signal bar indication on GSM. I do get a signal and data, just no bars showing in the notification.
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Does anyone think or know why or why not we can flash the radio from the G2 to work on the vibrant to get the HSPA+ network connections. or is this a hardware thing? im not a dev but wouldnt mind learing so i can contribute too.
it is a hardware thing. the vibrant can get hspa connections but not hspa+. hspa maxes out at 7.2Mbits/s though, so that's still pretty good.
How would we be able to get hspa working? I think my touch pro2 was on hspa. I always had the H logo in the tool bar.
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This same question has passed my mind as well. More often then not I notice in the phone status that the signal is UTMS, on the rare occasion is may say hsdpa. So i wouldn't be surprised if in the radio settings, utms is the preferred signal type.
we already have hspa. hspa+ is what the g2 has. hspa is just 3g...
From past experience with all of my previous smart phones the radio firmware upgrade is hardware specific.....So a Samsung radio will not work with HTC(G2) firmware.
for t-mobile, when you're on HSPA or UMTS, it just uses the 3G logo on the notification bar.
you can check at settings->about phone -> status to see what mobile network type you are on. mine says HSDPA right now, but when i'm at home, it usually says HSPA.
when they update your cell site with the HSPA+ cell, you will probably get an increase in speed because they will probably upgrade the internet connection to the cell to support HSPA+ speeds which means you get up to 7.2Mb/s. I think someone said earlier that most 3G sites only have two T1 lines as the backhaul, meaning you will probably get max 1.5Mb/s in a speed test.
Hardware thing. MIP
HSPA 7.2 is good enough for me and when HSPA+ rolls out in my area I ought to get closer to that theoretical speed more often. I've seen speeds like 5.9 Mbps on Speedtest.net when I'm near a regular HSPA tower.
I do wish we could mod the icon to display an "H" on HSPA connections like the G2 (G2 shows an "H" for regular HSPA as well as HSPA+). I remember running Klick Hero on my G1 almost a year ago, and getting the H icon from time to time on that old thing!
You can confirm you are on HSPA with the Mobile Signal Widget.
Itll show h on 2.2
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thenewak said:
Does anyone think or know why or why not we can flash the radio from the G2 to work on the vibrant to get the HSPA+ network connections. or is this a hardware thing? im not a dev but wouldnt mind learing so i can contribute too.
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The reason you cannot flash the G2 radio to get HSPA+ on the Vibrant is because the Vibrant DOES NOT HAVE A HSPA+ RADIO. Flashing the radio/modem software onto the Vibrant will not help and will probably damage your handset.
Adding software to the phone to use hardware it does not physically have is pointless.
Dan_Brutal said:
How would we be able to get hspa working? I think my touch pro2 was on hspa. I always had the H logo in the tool bar.
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You don't do anything to "get HSPA working", because it already works. If the cell site your handset is connected to is HSPA, then that is what your handset will connect with.
Just because the icon in the notification bar says "3G", this does not mean that you are not connected to a HS(D)PA network. Check "Settings > About phone > Status > Mobile network type" to check which type of network you are connected to. Mine currently says "HSDPA", but I have a "3G" icon in the notification bar.
Does anybody think its possible to take a baseband chip from the Epic 4g, and solder it into the Vibrant to get it to work with Sprint's WiMax network?
Only way I see that happening is of you mod the phones hardware then mod the software drivers to make it work...it can be done but is a huge pain in the butt....I use to mod our sat phones and radios over in iraq to bump signal for direct calls...the hardware side is easy little patch work needed....software side to make it work is where the work would really come in...mod for the kern...then drivers...then fixing all dependency issues for the radio...then last part is the battery issue...you would have to find a radio that wouldn't eat like it was at an all you can eat dollar dinner....but if you are into hardcore mods keep everyone posted...lol
Yea sent from this mobile thinggy =p
kingkurry said:
Does anybody think its possible to take a baseband chip from the Epic 4g, and solder it into the Vibrant to get it to work with Sprint's WiMax network?
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Not without a ton of programing knowledge.
i would venture to guess no, because more than the baseband chip would probably need to be included. you'd probably some of the receivers as well. At the very least, the chip marked wimax power amplifier.. http://www.chipworks.com/samsung-epic-4g.aspx
why would you want to do that anyways? the phone isn't designed to support two baseband chips so you probably wouldn't have any way of having both tmo and wimax. might as well just buy both phones
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it is a hardware thing. the vibrant can get hspa connections but not hspa+. hspa maxes out at 7.2Mbits/s though, so that's still pretty good.
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I've gotten up to 6mb/s pretty consistently
yincrash said:
it is a hardware thing. the vibrant can get hspa connections but not hspa+. hspa maxes out at 7.2Mbits/s though, so that's still pretty good.
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i havent seen any H on mine at all just 3G or EDGE anything i can do to upgrade that performance?
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i havent seen any H on mine at all just 3G or EDGE anything i can do to upgrade that performance?
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The shipped ROM on the Vibrant does not display an "H" for HS(D)PA connections ever. It will only show "G" for GPRS, "E" for EDGE and "3G" for UMTS, HSDPA and HSPA.
Try phono which shows real time signal. I was able to find the right spot for signal at work.
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Hey, I have an USA T-Mobile Vibrant.
It is rooted and running the Vibrant edition of Darky's 9.3 Final ROM.
I am also using the latest overstock kernal and the honeycomb 2.0 theme from the I9000 forums.
Enough background info. This isn't really a problem as much as my curiosity.
My phone almost constantly is switching back and forth between 3G (UMTS) and H (HSDPA) on my data connection.
It doesn't seem to affect battery life or service too much (though H might be faster), so I'm not worried; but does anyone know what the deal is with this?
Thanks ahead of time!!!
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Mine has been doing this lately as well. It's only been happening since I installed my current ROM (Trigger 2.7).
Noticed this just now as well...might have something to do with the mods to show H or 3G.
I wonder if it has anything to do with signal strength. I know that shouldn't make a difference but I can't think of any other reason.
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Noticed this just now as well...might have something to do with the mods to show H or 3G.
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I would agree, but I went to my settings/ phone info/ signal page and the reason it was changing was because it was physically switching between UMTS and HSDPA.
Why? I have no idea.
I do live in a T-Mobile 4G enabled area, though I am not on their so called "4G plan".
I did notice that it did not have this switching problem on Bionix Frost-u2.
So, if anyone has some insight, please help us all understand
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I wonder if it has anything to do with signal strength. I know that shouldn't make a difference but I can't think of any other reason.
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I was just watching my signal strength change and it doesn't seemed tied to the change from 3G to H.
For example, it would be around 67dBm and be on UMTS. Raise to up to around 75dBm and be on UMTS. Then it would switch to HSDPA and still be at 75dBm or sometimes lower down to 69-72dBm and still be on HSDPA.
So with that type of cross-over stats, I would be skeptical of that solution.
HSDPA is a temporary data link. If it was on continously the phone would have very poor battery life.
When network server has a data packet for your phone it 'pages' up your HSDPA capability. Your phone can also request HSPA to initiate a data transmission.
The HSPA paging process is similar to receiving and initiating a voice call.
If no more packets have qued at their server or received from your phone after some period of time it will revert to normal 3G battery saver cycling. It has to be re-paged up to reinitiate HSPA data link. The wake up HSPA function does add some initial delay.
So is there a way to force it to stay on HSPA while tethered, for example? (Or always)
hi guys, the idea behind me getting a 4G was that id hope id get a decent data signal out in the countryside where i work..
i had a samsung galaxy ace for a few weeks which only just uploaded facebook pice, either with a H sign and two arrows or a G sign,
when i used to work in town and i had a HTC the internet was fine im presuming i was running on 3G.
What are all these ? the H ? the G ?
and is the 4G signal even available in the uk yet ? or is it just my area is a bit slow on catching up with 4G ?
ive tried all these 3g/network boosters but to no avail.
it would be nice to be able to listen to on line radio and upload pics at a fairly reasonable rate.
ideally for work tomorrow,
has anyone got a program that will work and boost my signal at all ?
thanks
If you don't have good signal, you don't have good signal. The only way to improve it is, get closer to the tower.
Buying a 4g phone has zero impact on 3g reception.
sudo passwd root
I know you can change the 4G icon to H, so I think H means 4G and G means 3g. Just a guess though.
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So I just got the Deepshining ROM installed on my TMobile Radar 4G (USA)
Have a question about the flashed radio... is it only 3G? Before I flashed the radio and ROM I used to always get 4G (and sometimes 2G). Now, I am spending a big chunk of my time at "3G".
The phone doesn't seem to be slower, so I don't know if it is just branding, or what? Any experience on this?
Also, I did change the settings to make the radio, "North America".
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So I just got the Deepshining ROM installed on my TMobile Radar 4G (USA)
Have a question about the flashed radio... is it only 3G? Before I flashed the radio and ROM I used to always get 4G (and sometimes 2G). Now, I am spending a big chunk of my time at "3G".
The phone doesn't seem to be slower, so I don't know if it is just branding, or what? Any experience on this?
Also, I did change the settings to make the radio, "North America".
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Haven't experienced it. I have an H on my status bar right now and also on Deep Shining.
Did you mess with any other settings after installing?
It's just branding. T-Mobile changed both the 3G and H indicators to 4G. The custom ROM you installed probably has the standard 3G/H ones instead.
I changed another setting on the phone somewhere to display 3G+ as 4G. Now, I am occasionally seeing a "4G" status.
But, it really doesn't matter. Speeds seem good, and seems to be all branding anyway.
Awesome, awesome ROM!!
just to give some extra info Radar got an 3G antenna and Radar 4G got an 4G antenna and that thingy next to your connection bar doesnt show the actual antenna but just a string from the registry or somewhere in the rom i got an radar and a radar 4g rom and it show 4G but I still got 3G connection
Hello I am running alliancerom and I do not get 3g. Is there a modem for that where i get 3g and 4g on tmobile? when my phone was on the internation rom it got 3g/h+ ect. Is there a modem for it? Im running alliancerom's newest version on xda. Any imput would be great. Thank you.
H=3g H+=4g
Stock ROM (or network indicator unmodified ROMs) always show 4g. You don't see the 3g because it's pointless to show and only being used when no data activity is happening. 3g on T-Mobile is now only used for low data communication that doesn't require high speed data. It's like that to save power.
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