So I just got the Deepshining ROM installed on my TMobile Radar 4G (USA)
Have a question about the flashed radio... is it only 3G? Before I flashed the radio and ROM I used to always get 4G (and sometimes 2G). Now, I am spending a big chunk of my time at "3G".
The phone doesn't seem to be slower, so I don't know if it is just branding, or what? Any experience on this?
Also, I did change the settings to make the radio, "North America".
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So I just got the Deepshining ROM installed on my TMobile Radar 4G (USA)
Have a question about the flashed radio... is it only 3G? Before I flashed the radio and ROM I used to always get 4G (and sometimes 2G). Now, I am spending a big chunk of my time at "3G".
The phone doesn't seem to be slower, so I don't know if it is just branding, or what? Any experience on this?
Also, I did change the settings to make the radio, "North America".
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Haven't experienced it. I have an H on my status bar right now and also on Deep Shining.
Did you mess with any other settings after installing?
It's just branding. T-Mobile changed both the 3G and H indicators to 4G. The custom ROM you installed probably has the standard 3G/H ones instead.
I changed another setting on the phone somewhere to display 3G+ as 4G. Now, I am occasionally seeing a "4G" status.
But, it really doesn't matter. Speeds seem good, and seems to be all branding anyway.
Awesome, awesome ROM!!
just to give some extra info Radar got an 3G antenna and Radar 4G got an 4G antenna and that thingy next to your connection bar doesnt show the actual antenna but just a string from the registry or somewhere in the rom i got an radar and a radar 4g rom and it show 4G but I still got 3G connection
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Hey guys, i was wondering if someone knows something about this and what would be wrong with it.
I'm not receiving any 2g or 3g, only G or H. Though H very very few times. While friends of me receive 3g while im at the same place as them.
I have a T-mobile g2 touch, rooted to modaco with the newest radio rom. I had the same problems with standard rom and 2.73 t-mobile UK roms.
I live in holland which has decent 3g network i guess....
I just wanted to know if someone encountered the same problems or have any intel on this, before i unroot and go to t-mobile store.
thnx in advance!
edit: oh and yes, i have web n walk obviously if you wonder
wups, posted in wrong forum! my bad!
I also get more HSDPA and GPRS/GSM than 3G.
Only few times I had 3G in some Citiys.
Never saw Edge... (a friend has a lot of it)
Switzerland, Orange
Never actually saw my 3g pop up, i spend alot of my time in the major cities actually too. =((
You won't "see" 2G, because G means GPRS which is 2G. If your networks provided 2.5G, you may see EDGE, "E", but most European networks never bothered to implement it because they'd already gone 3G and there saw no need for EDGE. As far as I'm aware, O2 in the UK hastily added EDGE to their network purely to support the original iPhone.
Obviously, when it comes to the icons, "H" (HSDPA) is superior to "3G" (standard UMTS) so I'd only really be concerned if you're getting "G" when everyone around you on the same network is getting "3G" or better.
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Dave
Which is my case, but what could cause this? t-mobile forgot to turn it on on my subscription or something? lol
Does anyone think or know why or why not we can flash the radio from the G2 to work on the vibrant to get the HSPA+ network connections. or is this a hardware thing? im not a dev but wouldnt mind learing so i can contribute too.
it is a hardware thing. the vibrant can get hspa connections but not hspa+. hspa maxes out at 7.2Mbits/s though, so that's still pretty good.
How would we be able to get hspa working? I think my touch pro2 was on hspa. I always had the H logo in the tool bar.
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This same question has passed my mind as well. More often then not I notice in the phone status that the signal is UTMS, on the rare occasion is may say hsdpa. So i wouldn't be surprised if in the radio settings, utms is the preferred signal type.
we already have hspa. hspa+ is what the g2 has. hspa is just 3g...
From past experience with all of my previous smart phones the radio firmware upgrade is hardware specific.....So a Samsung radio will not work with HTC(G2) firmware.
for t-mobile, when you're on HSPA or UMTS, it just uses the 3G logo on the notification bar.
you can check at settings->about phone -> status to see what mobile network type you are on. mine says HSDPA right now, but when i'm at home, it usually says HSPA.
when they update your cell site with the HSPA+ cell, you will probably get an increase in speed because they will probably upgrade the internet connection to the cell to support HSPA+ speeds which means you get up to 7.2Mb/s. I think someone said earlier that most 3G sites only have two T1 lines as the backhaul, meaning you will probably get max 1.5Mb/s in a speed test.
Hardware thing. MIP
HSPA 7.2 is good enough for me and when HSPA+ rolls out in my area I ought to get closer to that theoretical speed more often. I've seen speeds like 5.9 Mbps on Speedtest.net when I'm near a regular HSPA tower.
I do wish we could mod the icon to display an "H" on HSPA connections like the G2 (G2 shows an "H" for regular HSPA as well as HSPA+). I remember running Klick Hero on my G1 almost a year ago, and getting the H icon from time to time on that old thing!
You can confirm you are on HSPA with the Mobile Signal Widget.
Itll show h on 2.2
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Does anyone think or know why or why not we can flash the radio from the G2 to work on the vibrant to get the HSPA+ network connections. or is this a hardware thing? im not a dev but wouldnt mind learing so i can contribute too.
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The reason you cannot flash the G2 radio to get HSPA+ on the Vibrant is because the Vibrant DOES NOT HAVE A HSPA+ RADIO. Flashing the radio/modem software onto the Vibrant will not help and will probably damage your handset.
Adding software to the phone to use hardware it does not physically have is pointless.
Dan_Brutal said:
How would we be able to get hspa working? I think my touch pro2 was on hspa. I always had the H logo in the tool bar.
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You don't do anything to "get HSPA working", because it already works. If the cell site your handset is connected to is HSPA, then that is what your handset will connect with.
Just because the icon in the notification bar says "3G", this does not mean that you are not connected to a HS(D)PA network. Check "Settings > About phone > Status > Mobile network type" to check which type of network you are connected to. Mine currently says "HSDPA", but I have a "3G" icon in the notification bar.
Does anybody think its possible to take a baseband chip from the Epic 4g, and solder it into the Vibrant to get it to work with Sprint's WiMax network?
Only way I see that happening is of you mod the phones hardware then mod the software drivers to make it work...it can be done but is a huge pain in the butt....I use to mod our sat phones and radios over in iraq to bump signal for direct calls...the hardware side is easy little patch work needed....software side to make it work is where the work would really come in...mod for the kern...then drivers...then fixing all dependency issues for the radio...then last part is the battery issue...you would have to find a radio that wouldn't eat like it was at an all you can eat dollar dinner....but if you are into hardcore mods keep everyone posted...lol
Yea sent from this mobile thinggy =p
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Does anybody think its possible to take a baseband chip from the Epic 4g, and solder it into the Vibrant to get it to work with Sprint's WiMax network?
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Not without a ton of programing knowledge.
i would venture to guess no, because more than the baseband chip would probably need to be included. you'd probably some of the receivers as well. At the very least, the chip marked wimax power amplifier.. http://www.chipworks.com/samsung-epic-4g.aspx
why would you want to do that anyways? the phone isn't designed to support two baseband chips so you probably wouldn't have any way of having both tmo and wimax. might as well just buy both phones
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it is a hardware thing. the vibrant can get hspa connections but not hspa+. hspa maxes out at 7.2Mbits/s though, so that's still pretty good.
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I've gotten up to 6mb/s pretty consistently
yincrash said:
it is a hardware thing. the vibrant can get hspa connections but not hspa+. hspa maxes out at 7.2Mbits/s though, so that's still pretty good.
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i havent seen any H on mine at all just 3G or EDGE anything i can do to upgrade that performance?
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i havent seen any H on mine at all just 3G or EDGE anything i can do to upgrade that performance?
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The shipped ROM on the Vibrant does not display an "H" for HS(D)PA connections ever. It will only show "G" for GPRS, "E" for EDGE and "3G" for UMTS, HSDPA and HSPA.
Try phono which shows real time signal. I was able to find the right spot for signal at work.
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I've had an odd issue which after many attempts, I have been unable to resolve. Constantly, since the day I bought my HOX+, it loses its HSPA connection, falls back onto 3G, then after a period of time, resumes HSPA. It happened on the stock rom, CM, AOKP, and my current Venom ROM.
It is not a signal strength issue, to my knowledge. I've had several other phones in this town, and I have never ever experienced this with any other phone, even remotely. While watching this issue happen, my signal strength remains constant -63 dBm 25 asu. TBH I don't honestly know what those numbers mean, but for anyone that can help, maybe you need them.
I have the international HOX+ with a Bell SIM card. I love this phone, but this issue is interminably annoying and is the one remaining thing that's keeping me from really enjoying the phone. Any assistance anyone can offer I'd be very glad. Thanks.
Change the sim card.. and try....not just the rom...
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I have an international HTC One X on AT&T (Didn't want their version) and I see my phone go to 3G when it's idle but it goes to H right after I initiate something that requires data. Is that what you mean?
Oh, and does anyone know how to check if this phone is using HSPA or HSPA+. In the settings and by using the 4636 dialer code it doesn't say so. On my Galaxy Nexus it will say HSDPA:8.
Haven't tried switching SIMs. I don't have another one to try, but they're cheap, I'll see if that helps. Also, in the 4636 menu, it shows HSUPA 9, which I believe is HSPA+
Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't say that it's much an issue, but that the international roms show Att true signal strength. For example I have one bar of LTE in my house and my wife's iPhone 5 range from 2 or 3. My LTE speeds are almost double hers. The bars being shown whether on stock Att or international doesn't mean much. A good way to check signal strength would be to compare your db's.
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No issues here. DBM signal, speeds all awesome on the International Roms. AT&T likes to make you believe that your signal is better than it really is.
Signal bars are a lie.
I have -95db signal and decent LTE speed
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Signal bars are a lie.
I have -95db signal and decent LTE speed
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Thanks to all for the feedback.
Just a note though, that some aren't complaining about the bars, but about actually dropping LTE connections where other AT&T phones do not.
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Thanks to all for the feedback.
Just a note though, that some aren't complaining about the bars, but about actually dropping LTE connections where other AT&T phones do not.
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Yeah, that happens with me in my house sometime (if in my pocket etc) . Somewhere in one of these threads someone mentions how the international will drop connection at about -115db or something and Att drops around -125db. So that could be the reason.
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I flashed my One to the Maximus 7 Rom and have noticed lower bars than usual. I live near a cell phone tower and all phones that I have had as well as others on ATT always have full bars while I can't seem to get more than 2-3. Today my phone started switching between H and LTE and acting weird while driving and it has never done that before. I'm on the latest 1.29 radio firmware and it hasn't helped...not sure how to fix it and for those saying this is just the true reading of signal, I doubt I would be getting such low signals when Im literally about 3 blocks away from a cell tower.
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I flashed my One to the Maximus 7 Rom and have noticed lower bars than usual. I live near a cell phone tower and all phones that I have had as well as others on ATT always have full bars while I can't seem to get more than 2-3. Today my phone started switching between H and LTE and acting weird while driving and it has never done that before. I'm on the latest 1.29 radio firmware and it hasn't helped...not sure how to fix it and for those saying this is just the true reading of signal, I doubt I would be getting such low signals when Im literally about 3 blocks away from a cell tower.
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I did notice this too. I definitely have lower bars and lower speed as well....I have trickdroid 5.1 installed. I tried the ATT version before getting the dev version and I did not have this issue.
TrickDroid and ARHD both show true signal bars, but they will also switch to 3g from LTE sooner than the stock ATT load. they seem to switch at aound -120db where ATT will hold out until -130db. if you select att from the ARHD load, it hold on till about -125, still not the same but it works.
Like another person said, the stock ATT ROMs show a non real signal strength, where the Int'l ROMs do. It's all about your actual data speeds and the dB signal. I'm running ARHD 7.0 and have zero reception trouble. LTE speeds are fine.
Just replace /system/framework/ext.jar from an AT&T ROM and you'll get the "fake" AT&T signal icons...
Yup
phositadc said:
Apparently some people are having signal issues (i.e., dropping between HSPA and LTE where other AT&T phones are rock solid LTE) with the Developer Edition. HTC has said the Developer Edition may have signal issues since it is not "optimized" for AT&T. A few people have commented that ROMs based on the international HTC One may also have signal issues while running on the AT&T HTC One.
So for those of you running international roms such as Android Revolution or TrickDroid -- are you having any signal issues? Is signal strength as good as it was on stock AT&T ROM? Any trouble holding on to an LTE signal?
Thanks.
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My Co-worker cant keep the LTE signal for longer than 10 minutes.... and the phone gets hot as heck...is yours hot?
HTC One AT&T Variant TrickDroid 5.2.1 ROM with AT&T tweaks.
RSRP(dBm): -105 to -110 avg. RSRQ(dB): -10 to -12 avg.
No LTE troubles but I did notice during the ROM install before I picked AT&T as carrier it flaked out a few times saying something else besides LTE and H and kept going back and forth.
TrickDroid rom with AOSP icons are showing 1 to 2 bars. - At the bottom!! Whereas my stock rom was showing like 3-4 bars all of the time at the house.
SpeedTest with both roms at my house (not on wifi) = 15M down. 10-20 AVG. regardless of ROM.
I'm having serious issues with AT&T LTE in central Mississippi. The LTE network in my college down has been here for at least 8 months, but after ATT did some network upgrades last month, I can no longer access the HSPA network. If I make a call, it kicks me straight down to the EDGE network after a 30+ second delay. Same thing when I receive a call. As a result of the delay, I frequently miss calls and the phone never rings. The issue just started this month. Tried the new APN settings as suggested on other threads, and that just results in EDGE only access. I called AT&T and they forced me to do a full wipe and have them do a network reset. That didn't really fix the issue.
I am on ViperXL 2.0.0 with the latest radio (have tried the older radio too, no fix). Still on HBOOT 1.32 (I think, If not, it's 1.35) I've researched the issue to no avail as to another solution. If I could just use the HSPA network things would be fine, but when there is no LTE I drop to EDGE and the signal strength on the EDGE network here is 2 bars tops when there is 5 bars LTE, so I frequently have no signal when I used to have 5 bars. AT&T, as always in their valiant effort to cover their own butts, says there is no network issue.
Input and solutions welcomed! Thanks guys!
Just tried a sim swap with a friend. He has the s4 active and it makes the step from LTE to HSPA+ with no issues. However, his SIM in my phone still refuses to acknowledge the hspa network. Any suggestions guys? I'm running out of solutions. Problem exists on elegancia and viperxl ROMs.
This wouldn't be an issue except that I live in an area where there is literally at most one bar of edge once it drops the LTE.
UPDATE: After the new sim didn't work, I went ahead and relocked the bootloader and flashed the official RUU. No luck. It seems as though my HSPA radio has actually gone out and will not work.
Weird. I went back home and it works perfectly. But it didn't work where I currently live or anywhere along the 75 miles of travel. Regardless, the replacement HoX+ will be in next week.
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