I have wondered this ever since iOS 5 was revealed:
How hasn't iOS5 infringed on patents that Google owns? More specifically - why hasn't Google's patented and pioneered notification pulldown, and overall display using a curtain, been pursued in court?
chasoo said:
I have wondered this ever since iOS 5 was revealed:
How hasn't iOS5 infringed on patents that Google owns? More specifically - why hasn't Google's patented and pioneered notification pulldown, and overall display using a curtain, been pursued in court?
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Google doesn't own Android patents other than the Market and some other apps. Android is an open-source project. The notification system in Android is not patented...but it may well become patented...by Apple now.
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Google doesn't own Android patents other than the Market and some other apps. Android is an open-source project. The notification system in Android is not patented...but it may well become patented...by Apple now.
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Apple won't patented, last week they try to patented something new about multitouch and they didn't let them so I doubt it
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Hope this isn't true. I'm too pissed to believe it.
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Google doesn't own Android patents other than the Market and some other apps. Android is an open-source project. The notification system in Android is not patented...but it may well become patented...by Apple now.
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jgalan14 said:
Apple won't patented, last week they try to patented something new about multitouch and they didn't let them so I doubt it
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That was the term "Multi-touch". Apple wanted to copyright it. The term was determined to be too widespread and common to become a copyrighted name. Apple does own the patent on mobile capacitive multi-touch display tech, though.
The war of the giants in which the only people suffering will be us the consumers. Why don't they all just share their technologies and let us choose.
EX: Apple is currently sueing Samsung for patent infringement however they're still using Samsung parts in every iPhone sold.
Agreed, but a little off topic. I'm seriously trying to understand this.
Fields47 said:
The war of the giants in which the only people suffering will be us the consumers. Why don't they all just share their technologies and let us choose.
EX: Apple is currently sueing Samsung for patent infringement however they're still using Samsung parts in every iPhone sold.
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Fields47 said:
The war of the giants in which the only people suffering will be us the consumers. Why don't they all just share their technologies and let us choose.
EX: Apple is currently sueing Samsung for patent infringement however they're still using Samsung parts in every iPhone sold.
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Money.
If you can make your product the only one available on the market then you get the whole pie.
Think about it, if the only smartphone was the iphone, we'd all have one, most likely jailbroken etc to be useful, but Apple would have had their money from us for it.
Even if you can stop one company's product for a few weeks you weaken them and will increase your sales by reducing consumer choice.
The information technology patent wars are completely out of hand. This would be a terrible development, if Google brought Apple to court on something silly like the "curtain" UI feature.
jgalan14 said:
Apple won't patented, last week they try to patented something new about multitouch and they didn't let them so I doubt it
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I wouldn't be surprised if Apple DID patent it, ESPECIALLY now that the patent is issued to the "first to submit" rather than the "first to invent." To be fair, it's my impression that the "first to invent" standard was pretty hard to enforce.
But nonetheless with the patent process streamlined and less rigorous, the primary change will be that patent trolls and giant corporations will have an easier time making frivolous patents which hurt innovation rather than encourage it.
In conclusion... I'm voting for Colbert 2012.
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The information technology patent wars are completely out of hand. This would be a terrible development, if Google brought Apple to court on something silly like the "curtain" UI feature.
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple DID patent it, ESPECIALLY now that the patent is issued to the "first to submit" rather than the "first to invent." To be fair, it's my impression that the "first to invent" standard was pretty hard to enforce.
But nonetheless with the patent process streamlined and less rigorous, the primary change will be that patent trolls and giant corporations will have an easier time making frivolous patents which hurt innovation rather than encourage it.
In conclusion... I'm voting for Colbert 2012.
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Me too...especially if his running mate is Robin Williams. I'd slam my vote down!
Nooooo! Now Apple gonna patent it. Is there a way we can urge google to patent their stuff? Petition? Anything?
Now Apple "Invented" notification menu
If the iPhone would be the only phone left in the Market.....I would cry .
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If the iPhone would be the only phone left in the Market.....I would cry .
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I agree. The more competition the better.. It's really the only thing that drives innovation.
This whole patent war thing is dumb.
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Google doesn't own Android patents other than the Market and some other apps. Android is an open-source project. The notification system in Android is not patented...but it may well become patented...by Apple now.
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Common misconception that Apple ripped off Android for the notifications, actually it was webOS.
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I agree. The more competition the better.. It's really the only thing that drives innovation.
This whole patent war thing is dumb.
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Mmmhmm .
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Doesn't matter if apple were to patent something such as the pull down. It would never stand in court. The first time they were to try to defend it, the defence would only need to show prior art.
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Go samsung! Kick Apple's ass
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Apples issue is that they have enough money to buy their patents. Most of them are so vague they have clearly just paid off the patent office to issue it. I mean seriously, i'm sure one of their patent was for using icons to launch applications, like they were the first to ever use that!
They just seem to pump money endlessly at anything. Did you know that iCloud is actually a business name, and apple have just decided that they want the name, forget about copyrights. The whole system was set up to protect the little companies, now the big companies are using it as a weapon. Why don't they just invent new technology rather than patenting other peoples technology then blocking sales of it.
Microsoft are just as bad, they get through tough times by exploiting patents and having a rather large income from android sales alone, it was recently estimated to be somewhere around $300,000,000 just in royalties for software they didn't invent.
What's next, Apple have patented the act of suing someone over patents?
I think we'd all be happier if they spend their legal fees in R&D rather than just attacking each other, it's clearly not customer or product focused anymore!
it's pretty sad that apple spent all these money and time to sue other people when they could've done a better job on their products...
oh well..
let the law suit continues...
The question is: Does google holds patents for above mentioned things?
I think from now and on they gotta patent everything, because smart asses like Apple gonna patent their work.
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http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bypasses-apple-patent-ire-for-2012-android-range-27167647/
Whether HTC shares this or not someone should get a patent on the new way found to avoid a run up of this. As much as I like the apple products they are becoming a bully which is just sad.
hchavarria said:
Whether HTC shares this or not someone should get a patent on the new way found to avoid a run up of this. As much as I like the apple products they are becoming a bully which is just sad.
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Becoming? They have quite the long track record of bully status and general douchebaggery.
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Becoming? They have quite the long track record of bully status and general douchebaggery.
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This. It's just that up until recently they were neither big enough nor relevant enough to matter. Jobs is just being jobs as always... Unfortunately now he has the money and influence to be more than a just a sideshow to the technology industry... A zany footnote in computer history..... Now he's just acting like an extremely selfish only child.
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This. It's just that up until recently they were neither big enough nor relevant enough to matter. Jobs is just being jobs as always... Unfortunately now he has the money and influence to be more than a just a sideshow to the technology industry... A zany footnote in computer history..... Now he's just acting like an extremely selfish only child.
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Considering Apple, Inc. was on the verge of folding just a few short years ago, I'm really surprised by the turn that Apple's made.
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Every company forgets where they were and how far they've come. Take HTC as an example; they just about did it. They went from a company that embraced the developers and then, in a few short years, turned around and locked down their bootloaders.
Without social media outlets such as facebook, I highly doubt they would have reversed their decision to maintain locked bootloaders.
Apple needs the same kind of treatment to be reminded that the mass majority of users out there do not support their products (Android phones are outselling the iPhone, Android tablets have eaten into almost a third of the iPad market, and Macs still don't have nearly the same level of market penetration into the desktop/laptop sectors).
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Apple needs the same kind of treatment to be reminded that the mass majority of users out there do not support their products .
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Uhh, yeah. Good luck with that. While I agree whole heartedly apple fans are nowhere near as brand agnostic as, well, anyone else. Drank the koolaide, etc etc etc.
In a recent poll of 4000 consumers 35% said they wanted an iphone 5, even knowing nothing about it.
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Every company forgets where they were and how far they've come. Take HTC as an example; they just about did it. They went from a company that embraced the developers and then, in a few short years, turned around and locked down their bootloaders.
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What do you mean, "just about did it." A-holes still haven't unlocked jack sh....
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/14/hackers-crack-siri-to-work-on-any-device/
Just seen this, would be great to see this on the 3D, then what could a iphone owner say .... nothing!
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/14/hackers-crack-siri-to-work-on-any-device/
Just seen this, would be great to see this on the 3D, then what could a iphone owner say .... nothing!
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iPhone owners already can say nothing. Their cloud "innovation"... we've had that via Google for years. Siri... we've had that for a while too. Search the market for Jeannie (AKA Voice Actions). I put Voice Actions up against Siri the other day at lunch and Siri got literally every question borked. Voice Actions on Android did much better. We asked Siri "What are the nine planets". It said, "I found six planets... the closest is 2.2 miles from you." I hope not! We asked Voice Actions the same thing and it came up with a picture of the solar system plus a description of the planets. Other questions went similarly. The iPhone junkies at the table were REALLY impressed when I asked Voice Actions "Show me some boobies". Then I showed them the results and said, "Try THAT on your iPhone!"
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iPhone owners already can say nothing. Their cloud "innovation"... we've had that via Google for years. Siri... we've had that for a while too. Search the market for Jeannie (AKA Voice Actions). I put Voice Actions up against Siri the other day at lunch and Siri got literally every question borked. Voice Actions on Android did much better. We asked Siri "What are the nine planets". It said, "I found six planets... the closest is 2.2 miles from you." I hope not! We asked Voice Actions the same thing and it came up with a picture of the solar system plus a description of the planets. Other questions went similarly. The iPhone junkies at the table were REALLY impressed when I asked Voice Actions "Show me some boobies". Then I showed them the results and said, "Try THAT on your iPhone!"
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Lol brilliant
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
jgalan14 said:
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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hate builds brand loyalty.
jgalan14 said:
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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You must not talk to too many Apple fanboys. All day long, they talk about how their phone is superior to any other. I laugh when my co-workers literally say their iPhones are better than my EVO 3D.
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You must not talk to too many Apple fanboys. All day long, they talk about how their phone is superior to any other. I laugh when my co-workers literally say their iPhones are better than my EVO 3D.
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God my company issues iPhones as a company phones (mostly to Execs and ITs) and they brag so much about their iPhone that I die a little inside each day. Something about that Apple brand that makes them believe they are top hip elitist. I don't hate Apple, I hate the people who worship it
jgalan14 said:
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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Hrmm, I think part of it on anyone other than Apple's OS definitely has to do with Apple becoming what they advertised against. The breakout Apple commercial was that woman coming and throwing a sledgehammer at Big Brother - one way of doing things, one computer, one order.
They became that - they advertise artistic and non-conformist and people line up and say "I'm so different" as they purchase something they can't make a change to without jail breaking the OS.
Last I checked, if you want to develop for iOS you have to pay to play. I may be off on that as it has been a while since I checked.
Apple shooting lawsuits left and right for "stolen innovations" such as "slide to wake up" have not been engendering kindness.
The marketing and legal departments have been fueling the dislike, and posers who get phones for a status symbol.
There's a long and well documented lead in to the hate, and in the end it works extremely well to line various company's coffers.
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Hrmm, I think part of it on anyone other than Apple's OS definitely has to do with Apple becoming what they advertised against. The breakout Apple commercial was that woman coming and throwing a sledgehammer at Big Brother - one way of doing things, one computer, one order.
They became that - they advertise artistic and non-conformist and people line up and say "I'm so different" as they purchase something they can't make a change to without jail breaking the OS.
Last I checked, if you want to develop for iOS you have to pay to play. I may be off on that as it has been a while since I checked.
Apple shooting lawsuits left and right for "stolen innovations" such as "slide to wake up" have not been engendering kindness.
The marketing and legal departments have been fueling the dislike, and posers who get phones for a status symbol.
There's a long and well documented lead in to the hate, and in the end it works extremely well to line various company's coffers.
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And yet, they sell more and more phones everyday. I loathe the company itself. I like their products. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch are GREAT devices, but they're not Android. And they're not even close, IMO. I have an iPad issued to me from work. The only thing I use it for is to read, watch movies (that I get outside of iTunes), and listen to music (Pandora/Shoutcast/Music I download outside of iTunes).
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And yet, they sell more and more phones everyday. I loathe the company itself. I like their products. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch are GREAT devices, but they're not Android. And they're not even close, IMO. I have an iPad issued to me from work. The only thing I use it for is to read, watch movies (that I get outside of iTunes), and listen to music (Pandora/Shoutcast/Music I download outside of iTunes).
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I think there's also some sort inherent disconnect between camps.
Apple people think they have the greatest device because it looks pretty.
Android people think they have the greatest device because the hardware is faster and you can make it look pretty.
Apple people think that if you have to work to make your device look and perform awesome that it's you who is making it awesome, not the product. (IE you win Android fail)
Android people think that if you can't make it look and perform like you want then you're a moron or the phone is crap.
It's sort of like a broken down 57 Chevy. An Apple lover looks and sees rust and decay, and Android user sees potential - HTC didn't make Sense awesome, but I can.
It all gets worse when you have people on both sides who don't want to learn anything and believe their respective marketing departments.
Any interest in this or shall we keep debating Apples to Orang-uh hum! Droids?
my dislike for the company is in the fact they spout innovation yet they are always a year behind the rest. hell look windows 7 phone has 4g now where is it for the almighty iphone? They spout innovation on their new ios and android has already had it on of their phones for a year. and the masses to dumb to realize they are paying extra money for a phone that is at least a year behind the curve. And yet the iphone fan boys think their phone is the best then i ask what makes it better then i pull out my evo 3d and im like had that since.... and had that since..... their ignorance drives me up the wall
I know still off topic but when is Google going to throw a lawsuit in apples face for the ios5 notification pulldown menu? Innovation my ass
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I know still off topic but when is Google going to throw a lawsuit in apples face for the ios5 notification pulldown menu? Innovation my ass
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they cant due to the fact android is open source i believe
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they cant due to the fact android is open source i believe
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I'm more interested with the fact apple got issued that patent for the basic slide unlock. Didn't Google have this out first? Didn't think apple could patent stuff Google had already releases open source wise.
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Well I see in a different way, sure iPhone 4s looks outdated because it doesn't have lte or WiMAX, in my experience lte is really nice too bad it has more lost signal then 3G and WiMAX is ok but man does it suck, I used 4G on my OG evo for a few months and stop using it , it just sucks I prefer 3G also in battery life 4G sucks at that right now, they need to come out with a new battery tech or wtv, I have an iPhone 4S, evo 3d, nexus s (tmobile) and my old 3GS and after playing with them I prefer both, i do prefer an iPad instead of android tablet but that might because of the apps, is nice to read books on my iPad or watch YouTube, and some apps for work , if android tablets would have a nice spreadsheets app and maybe some better apps ill probably go for it, but maybe another 6 months before that, the new asus table (quad core) looks nice but will see
I love android far more than I love Apple, but I have to admit that apple was the innovation that started the smartphone race. Even though I believe Android is much better that Apple now, I believe there wouldn't be Android if it wasn't for Apple. Flame me if you want...
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I love android far more than I love Apple, but I have to admit that apple was the innovation that started the smartphone race. Even though I believe Android is much better that Apple now, I believe there wouldn't be Android if it wasn't for Apple. Flame me if you want...
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Apple made the smartphone stylish. Treo made the smartphone useful. I was checking corporate email while apple was still ensuring cases expose their logo on the back.
If anyone started using siri other than apple, they will shut you down quicker than you can brag to your friends about it.
The andiod os was oringinally going to be the google os back in like 2004 but when things didnt work out and google saw that the iphone take off they applied it to smart phones
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Was-...s_id29849#7-“Bottom-row-of-square-icons-(the-
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ya, its meant to make the "FRUIT COMPANY" to moan in pain!!!
In a way I think the article makes sense because remember when the S2 came out Apple was trying to block its sales world wide because it had a "rectangular shape", which I don't know wth they want phones to be then. So in order for the S3 not go through that they probably went with this shape for the phone (like Galaxy Nexus). Anyways in my eyes it has a nice shape.
If this is correct, and customers are receiving a poorer product because of Apple's insanity, I personally think this authorizes physical violence towards apple customers (including iTMS customers) for funding a cartel.
This company needs to be stopped, and the only way this is happening is by choking off their income.
I don't understand how the "fruit company" can get away with blocking a phone because it has a rectangular shape, especially as there had been rectangular shaped phones before. Its like one car manufacturer blocking another car manufacturers vehicle because it has 4 wheels.
It seems to be that the "fruit company" can't face competition from anyone else. Perhaps this is because they are aware of the fact that their market share is decreasing?
Reading the article - it kinda make sense what the author says about the S3 design having to change in order to keep Apple happy based on the fact that Apple wanted to sue them no so long ago. I do wonder how long it will be before they find some fault with the S3 and try to block the sales of it.
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If this is correct, and customers are receiving a poorer product because of Apple's insanity, I personally think this authorizes physical violence towards apple customers (including iTMS customers) for funding a cartel.
This company needs to be stopped, and the only way this is happening is by choking off their income.
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No need to get violent with Apple users (I'm one of them ).
If Samsung really want to hurt Apple, all they have to do is stop supplying Apple with components for their IOS and mac computers. Apple will never be able to keep up with demand without Samsung parts in their iphone and ipad. But it's not likely to happen as both Samsung and Apple make billions off each other.
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No need to get violent with Apple users (I'm one of them ).
If Samsung really want to hurt Apple, all they have to do is stop supplying Apple with components for their IOS and mac computers. Apple will never be able to keep up with demand without Samsung parts in their iphone and ipad. But it's not likely to happen as both Samsung and Apple make billions off each other.
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As you correctly surmise, there's no reason Samsung would want to hurt Apple - they sell their components for billions. But there is a reason the consumer would want to do so (though it'd likely be just out of futile vengeance). After all, it's the consumer who's hurt by Apple's anti-competitive strategies: they get less choice, they have to fund the lawsuits, and (depending on whom you ask) they get ugly phones due to their sheer ridiculousness.
This is even true of Apple consumers like yourself: your money is effectively funding Apple's crusade to force everyone else out of the market. Forcing competitors off the market does not help you; it only helps Apple. (Indeed, as competition is the driving force behind lower prices and increased innovation, it, in the long run, hurts you as well.)
The design is not bad I think its quite good however the material used is unforgivable.
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The design is not bad I think its quite good however the material used is unforgivable.
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The Material is good. I want a phone that can drop without being shattered and that doesn't change the colour when I carry it in my Jeans.
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The Material is good. I want a phone that can drop without being shattered and that doesn't change the colour when I carry it in my Jeans.
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Colour can be removed by simply wiping but you can't do anything about the cheap plastic look.
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I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
travlincablguy said:
I think we should file a suit against apple for patent and judicial system abuse. Their weak patents and ridiculous lawsuits are costing us dearly. Their ridiculous patents are delaying our phones. They are new to this game and don't have right to be such a holes. Anyone here an attorney and willing to put these rich pricks in their place?
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The American Way....
personally.. this isn't worth the $5.05 ill get in the mail from apple.. You'll never get as much as you hope and dream for..
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNHuqHWefU
Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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Was that in response to my post or the op lol
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op, no real offense intended!
robber said:
op, no real offense intended!
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Ok lol no offense intended here either btw
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HTC and/or Sprint may have cause for a class action lawsuit because it may have hurt their profits, but we consumers don't.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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Two parties does not equal class action, but you are right, they may have a claim. However, Apple appears to be acting in good faith (ie. protecting their patents) so it would be hard to prove that they did this purely out of malice or a motivation to interfere.
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This is why corporate crime should be policed just as heavily as personal. There was clearly a crime committed here, and the U.S. Government was their weapon. How malice and messed up is that? News of this comes to a company on the day it's launch phones are in the mail? Apples pockets are deep, I guarantee they knew what they were doing. If it looks like s.... smells like s.... and tastes like s.... it probably is s....
And here sprint fronts the bill, when they shouldn't have to and buys everyone who waited a case.
Again - I don't think your seeing the legitimacy of Apple's claim. I'm not saying it was right, or that they are right. In the eyes of the law, they do have the right to make that claim and enforce it through legal action. Now the real issue comes down to whether or not Apple is hindering HTC's business purely to mess with them. I don't think that is the case - it would cost millions of dollars to enforce such a claim with absolutely no guarantee of success. Yes that is a drop in the bucket, but justifying that kind of legal expense has to occur on someone's budget.
It would be up to HTC's counter-claim (if successful) to prove more likely than not - whether Apple's action was purely obstructive. The law will always look at the evidence in the light most favorable to the person being sued (similar to the concept of jurisprudence), and in the case of a counter-claim that would be Apple.
HTC's claim of obstruction would have to be clearly egregious in order for it to be sustained in court (likewise, Apple's claim of infringement). For those of you who have a problem with this - pray that you never become a defendant in any court matter.
Guys, lets think clearly for a minute- please.
Apple believes that they have a patent that HTC has infringed upon. They take proper action and bring their claim in font of the International Trade Commission. The ITC then sides with them! How Apple can somehow be responsible for intentionally causing damage to a potential "class" for the above actions is beyond me.
Anyway, lets continue for the purpose of illustrating the absurdity of Apple being sued.
The ITC judge tells HTC that they need to remove the features from the phone that Apple holds patents for. HTC agrees. Then, subsequently HTC comes back and states that they don't feel they need to remove the core functionality, as they have found a way to code around the patent. Whether or not this had any impact on the delay itself, I don't know but it could have.
Even if somehow, the ultimate conspiracy theorist was able to prove Apple somehow had done all of this purposefully, Apples claims are still 100% valid.
I do believe that the guys in Cupertino got a huge rise out of this, I am sure they were laughing their asses off. However, from their perspective this is just a fortunate side effect of a completely legitimate claim that was being enforced by an International body and not Apple themselves.
All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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ElephantKiller said:
Dude a slight delay in your brand spanking new phone isn't a cause of action. It's not like you don't already have one. Good luck demonstrating economic or even any loss at all.
Just calm down and wait a few more days.
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i sorry but i agree with ElephantKiller, Not to mention that they have already been given the (unjust) right to claim an absurd patent. All your doing is wasting time. apple doesn't care. They believe they are right to protect their product.
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All I know is because of this Apple lawsuit my youtube links open in a browser and not an app.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Root Phone, rename or delete the file htclinkifydispatcher.apk in system/app then clear the browser app defaults with app manager. Reboot, enjoy the choices you will get to make.
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Tried this on my Evo 3D (because the ICS ROM also ships with this) and unfortunately it doesn't work =( once I clear defaults and I try to tap on a YouTube link, nothing happens.
I suggest people try it on the Evo LTE, maybe it works there because I have Sense 3.6, perhaps and hopefully it works different on 4.0.
Haha, I share your pain, I too feel slighted by this recent fiasco. However, as stated already, there is no "class action" suit to be had. So what are we left to do, what can we the mere lowely consumers do? Don't buy Apple. Simple.
Maybe after you and I recieve our phones, we "show off" our phones to those we know that own an iPhone. Perhaps we do our best to promote the Android platform. Explain the inherent superiority of open source. Demonstrate the overwhelming edge we have in capabilities, & customization abilities.
The sad fact is, Apple has the lions share of the market, extremely deep pockets, and apparently the ear of some influential higher-ups. Not to mention the mindless fan boy, status symbol toting majority of iPhone users that will buy an iPhone regardless of what may come along, just because it's an iPhone.
But take heart my Android loving friends. How long has it been since Apple has had a revolutionary idea they brought to the table? When did their business strategy go from marketing to desperate/frivolous patent infringement claims? How far behind the curve are they?
Go take your shiny new phone and compare it to a new IP4S, what do you notice? Sad isn't it? It's a matter of time. Open source platform IS the future. Apples closed source, "we own that idea" mentality WILL be it's downfall. Might take five years, could be twenty, mark my words, Apple is headed for decline, and they know it.
Hahaha, well I feel better now. Back to my beer and the off topic lounge. -jamie
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It appears Apple has won the case. The jury has said Samsung has infringed on the patents.
I put this here because I believe that it does relate to us as a community and the galaxy s2 but mods if you feel it isn't related to then close it.
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Yeah Sammy just got raped. There's a long appeal process ahead. But those fruit people potentially killed twiz
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joshyy_rey said:
Yeah Sammy just got raped. There's a long appeal process ahead. But those fruit people potentially killed twiz
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And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
If any of you guys follow Robert Scoble on G+, he just posted an interesting take on the outcome...
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dandrumheller said:
If any of you guys follow Robert Scoble on G+, he just posted an interesting take on the outcome...
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+1
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Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
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Yeah We on XDA love that, but in reality it hurts Android in the long run with the "main stream" customer. I know like 6 girls who fit the apple mold and were iphone users, that switched to SGS3 recently because of it's features it offered over apple. Let's face it ASOP is for hardcore android people. Stock android isnt pretty enough and offer enoigh features for the average person. Look at what a lot of people on here complain about, wishing they could bring twiz camera to cm10 etc, in reality Android has a few more steps to go to get where it needs to be to compete in the general consumer arena, it needs skins, imo.
Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
And hopefully brought a pure Android to Samsung future phones
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Nexus S got dinged for 2 million. So they won't go pure android. Windows phone 8 maybe if MS stop being dicks to one of their best OEMs.
Meh, Samsung deserved it. Pretty damning internal memos basically saying "copy Apple".
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ferrocene said:
Meh, Samsung deserved it. Pretty damning internal memos basically saying "copy Apple".
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I get that but I mean what else can they do?
So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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Color a dodge challenger or a mustang yellow with black stripes. Most of the tools in the world will think its bumblebee.
People are stupid and our patent system is ****ed.
Yes Sammy did "copy" apple, but thats what must be done to be in the mainstream. and has ALWAYS been done.
Our patent system caused this, samsung didnt do anything wrong. IMO
Also, other than the square icons, and the chrome bezel, I see nothing that resembles an iphone. If it was a blatant copy, people would have a hard time identifying it.
Phalanx7621 said:
So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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It is different because of the way it works. It is just that small section of screen not the whole screen like android which makes it different enough.
MotoMudder77 said:
Color a dodge challenger or a mustang yellow with black stripes. Most of the tools in the world will think its bumblebee.
People are stupid and our patent system is ****ed.
Yes Sammy did "copy" apple, but thats what must be done to be in the mainstream. and has ALWAYS been done.
Our patent system caused this, samsung didnt do anything wrong. IMO
Also, other than the square icons, and the chrome bezel, I see nothing that resembles an iphone. If it was a blatant copy, people would have a hard time identifying it.
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+1 to this. If the idiot judge hadn't granted Apple those patent rights (on stuff they didn't develop, and which should have never been patentable in the first place) this case would have never happened to begin with.
Thinking about this, maybe I could file for patent on any display device that is rectangle and has a bezel with square corners and sue all monitor/televison manufacturers? hmmm
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So don't the new I phones have a pull down status bar like android? Am I wrong or is that a rip off of Googles work? I dunno. Whatever. Fricking Apple kills me.
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Yes. But that's an issue that Android has to deal with, not Samsung (which they are) The OS infringing done by Samsung had to do with Touchwiz, not Android directly (even though the features are found in stock android). And then there's the 'edge to edge glass with a button' and 'rectangle with rounded corners' patents. Yes, Apple was actually allowed to patent a form factor and a shape..
Regardless, every single Apple patent that the jury claimed was valid was ridiculous.
Motorola (Google) has already started filing suit against Apple not too long before this decision.
just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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Theres gonna be a huge market for banned black market devices. I can see the ebayers wheels turning already
In the case of other manufacturers infringing, Apple only needs to win one case like this for other manufacturers to line up to pay for Apples bogus IP and all the rest will just be short court battles that Apple can win just by referencing this case. I do however definitely seeing this as being appealed and Samsung will most likely not end up with this bad of a final verdict. Its just too ridiculous to stand. I mean, SKorea and UK threw the Apple patents out, deemed them invalid! Only here in the US could Apple pull this off..
jin5 said:
just wait till Apple patents the circle, triangle and trapezoid, then we're really screwed.
anyways, doesn't every friggin phone out have a large touch screen , edge to edge glass blah blah.
perhaps when the iphone5 comes out with a 4" screen, samsung can sue back since the galaxy has had a 4" screen for years.
funny if this all works out (apple banning samsung phones, while google banning apple phones), we'll only have LG and HTC left LOL
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Precisely. There isn't much wiggle room with which an all touch device can be designed lol.
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SKorea and UK threw the Apple patents out, deemed them invalid! Only here in the US could Apple pull this off..
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The us had been behind in mobile technology for a long time. Now, if this verdict holds, the rest of the world will get the latest devices while we will all be stuck with either iPhones, phones that to avoid Apple's lawyers have to use technology that is five years old, or phones that cost much more than they do elsewhere because companies are paying to use Apple's "innovations".
The only thing this lawsuit does is to either take away excellent products away from US consumers or make them more expensive for us, while the rest of the world continues to enjoy superior product choices with better technology. The judge that granted these patents to Apple was incompetent.
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The us had been behind in mobile technology for a long time. Now, if this verdict holds, the rest of the world will get the latest devices while we will all be stuck with either iPhones, phones that to avoid Apple's lawyers have to use technology that is five years old, or phones that cost much more than they do elsewhere because companies are paying to use Apple's "innovations".
The only thing this lawsuit does is to either take away excellent products away from US consumers or make them more expensive for us, while the rest of the world continues to enjoy superior product choices with better technology. The judge that granted these patents to Apple was incompetent.
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Agreed but Apple just has to have their way. Reminds me of a spoiled brat tbh although I am not that educated on the issue
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I get that but I mean what else can they do?
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Develop an entirely new UI for their products, like HTC did with Sense even though I know that some or even many people dislike it for various reasons. But hey, let's face it: those Taiwainian guys brought something really new and pretty for Android users, even with all its minuses.