I have a general question with bootloader unlocking, i am not new to the android system at all i have had a hero and an evo. I just found it rather simple to do the bootloader unlock on them on my Macbook Pro, yet rather difficult to do on the photon. I enjoy the freedom to cook my own roms and try some of the other users. Does anyone have any reccomendations?
cwilson200932 said:
I have a general question with bootloader unlocking, i am not new to the android system at all i have had a hero and an evo. I just found it rather simple to do the bootloader unlock on them on my Macbook Pro, yet rather difficult to do on the photon. I enjoy the freedom to cook my own roms and try some of the other users. Does anyone have any reccomendations?
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There are so videos on how to unlock bootloader but will break 4g
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17302907
[ACS][HOW TO] Root, Install CWM, Unroot, Flash Roms/Kernels/Themes!(11 videos)9/28/11
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cwilson200932 said:
I have a general question with bootloader unlocking, i am not new to the android system at all i have had a hero and an evo. I just found it rather simple to do the bootloader unlock on them on my Macbook Pro, yet rather difficult to do on the photon. I enjoy the freedom to cook my own roms and try some of the other users. Does anyone have any reccomendations?
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At this point, it is not possible to fully unlock the Photon without breaking 4G.
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without having s-off?
i really just want the perm root until they can get all the kinks of of these early ROMs
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ah ok
because right now they making stock custom roms
and..... that just seems silly?
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Root is available. Head to the development section to learn how to root and flash a recovery.
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you don't need to flash any of the ROMs if you dont like them. I would root in case HTC/sprint sends a forced update. Might as well right?
PMGRANDS said:
I'm thinking of getting a Evo 3D, but I've been Ify because of the Root/Recovery situation.
Anyways my question is...
Is it Possible yet to Fully Root the Evo 3D? And if so, is it also Possible to Install a Custom Recovery like ClockworkMod?
Thanx in Advance!
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Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
hockeyfamily737 said:
Come to the Dark Side lol..... We have full root & s-off. 2 Recovery's to choose from (clockwork & Team Win Recovery Project), kernels/overclocking, and modified stock roms popping up daily. Aosp is still a little ways out, but there's still plenty to do, while we wait.
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Ok sounds Good to me... Thanx!
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Last thing, what is S-off? Thanks!
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Permanent root means S-off and a few other things. People are talking about HTC when they speak of unlocking bootloaders. If you root your phone through AlphaREV, your phone will be permanently rooted.
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vulcZ said:
This is probably a super noob question, but I haven't quite gotten into the 3VO development scene yet. I keep hearing that the bootloader is yet to be unlocked, but people are talking about a permanent root already?
Can someone explain to me the difference between temp root and permanent root? I know the difference between temporary and permanent, but how does it apply to rooting your 3VO? Also, how does a locked boot loader affect us and why do we want it unlocked? Thanks!
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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This^, my answer was half-arsed lol.
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hockeyfamily737 said:
Permanent root is only available via an unlocked bootloader, because of the write protection on the phone. Fortunately for the community a combined effort between Alpharev & Unrevoked, resulted in the bootloaders being unlocked Friday evening. While HTC did say that they would unlock the loaders, the "Revolution" tool is the reccomended way to proceed as there's no way to say what sort of stipulations HTC might incorporate. Check one of the many S-Off threads in the developement section or pm me if you need a more detailed answer.
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Awesome, thanks guys! That's exactly what I wanted to know. So now I can go ahead and root my phone and wait for the next badass ROM (hopefully CM!) for this phone!
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detroit2hi said:
Hello, would one of the amazing Devs and experts help me out with a rooting issue im having for my evo 3D
I am in Japan and have just bought the Japanese evo 3D
Im kinda worried about rooting because im not sure if it will screw up the software inside my Japanese evo 3D
I rooted my og evo and my sensation 4g before and loooove rooted phones but i was in America with american phones
Can anyone tell me if rooting will screw up my phone so it might not work over here anymore like connecting to towers or not able to send messages
They are kinda serious about rooting and unlocking stuff over here
maybe it wont effect anything at all and my phone will work fine, im just clueless right now
The newest update out here is
android 2.3.4
sense 3.0
software 1.09.970.5 and that just came out not to long ago
baseband 1.02.00.0906
build 1.09.970.5 CL221596 release-keys
If anyone can help me out i would be forever grateful
Thank you
Bryan
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Simple answer: Probably not but depends
Longer answer: The main factor I forsee is how to gain root access. Given the locked bootloader on this device, the process has been much more complex. Which version of he bootloader do you have? Does revolutionary work or is the only option HTC's unlock method?
The answer to these two questions will probably determine your fake. Either way, for the most part, having gained root access on the device and still running a stock ROM, will more than likely guarantee there are no tower/carrier issues.
Generally, with most custom ROMs, there should also be no carrier/tower issues but unless the ROM has been tested to work in Japan on those networks, there is no guarantee.
The only big conflict I would imagine would be taking a rooted device into the carrier for service. Probably best at this point to reload stock software and remove root access in order to ensure the device the hardware is using completely stock software and thus eliminate any odd issues from custom "unofficial" software.
As a side note, if you're read this far through my message, if the htc unlock process is the only option, my app, Flash Image GUI, works very well in helping flash kernels due to the HTC unlock limitation of not allowing kernel write access while in standard recovery mode. Have a few guides in the OP to my Flash Image GUI thread.
Hope that helps! Good luck!
I have the 1.5 bootloader and I just read all about the difficulties with it.
Thanks so much for the reply by the way
So your saying to do the HTC dev method to unlock to flash roms and then use your program to flash different kernel's?
I do for now want and kinda need the Japanese rom
So ill keep this rom if I use the HTC way?
detroit2hi said:
I have the 1.5 bootloader and I just read all about the difficulties with it.
Thanks so much for the reply by the way
So your saying to do the HTC dev method to unlock to flash roms and then use your program to flash different kernel's?
I do for now want and kinda need the Japanese rom
So ill keep this rom if I use the HTC way?
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Yes he is. You can change the ROM even if you use the HTC unlock method. Some things may not work properly if you flash the ROMs on here because of conflicting files. I learned that when I ported the Japanese Evo 3D ROM to the Sprint version of the 3D. You will have to flash custom ROMs based off the Japanese HTC stock ROM
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Yes he is. You can change the ROM even if you use the HTC unlock method. Some things may not work properly if you flash the ROMs on here because of conflicting files. I learned that when I ported the Japanese Evo 3D ROM to the Sprint version of the 3D. You will have to flash custom ROMs based off the Japanese HTC stock ROM
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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Yes yes yes. I think this is what I'm talking about.
Where you living?? In Japan ?
We need a Japan section in xda !"
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Honestly of course I want to change my rom but I really don't care about it
I hontoni want super user and to keep this rom because its sooo Japanese I wont be able to message people here in Japan unless I keep this. For now.
I want to use my superuse apps and what not.
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Well I just went to HTCdev.com and there's no option for my Japanese evo3d
I see a few different evo 3d's but not KDDI au one.
Guess I'm **** out of luck
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halo,
I'm new. I have the same problem.
Japanese Evo3d with H-boot 1.50.00000
somebody knows how to root this phone?
I know, i know...probably sick of these questions by now...
So i typically went the s-off un-official root methods with evo/3vo. Im thinking this time around i want to take a different approach as my needs have changed.
Im much more interested in keeping stock rom/kernel for the time being and being able to use root apps (like tether).
The grey area for me is exactly what does the HTC method of unlock allow me to do? I understand its not S-off.
Is it possible to root my phone and still take OTA's? (via HTC unlock or other methods)
Lastly what is the downside to HTC dev unlock? i understand it marks the phone in some way as unlocked and voids the warranty?
thanks
I know for a fact you could have root and not have to do the HTC unlock.
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlocking will allow you to: replace recovery, which opens up to much more you can do.
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Eat it iPhone said:
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlock allows you to flash custom roms, like the Viper Rom.
Direct form HTC's bootloader unlock FAQ guide
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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Eat it iPhone said:
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
shook187 said:
I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
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Thanks ! I'm totally new to the scene (smart phones in general, must less the root scene). While I'm fairly computer literate, I feel like a toddler going "Ooo what's this? " "Why?" "Why?" "what's that? "
Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
I'm more shocked there isn't a s-off wip thread yet however many people haven't git their phone either..
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Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
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That would eliminate 90 percent of the thread on here.
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
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I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
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s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
oh crap!! I didn't even think about not being able to flash AOSP without S-off. My only intention buying this phone was to be able to run AOSP ASAP.
But wait, are you sure about not flashing kernels? I thought people with the Evo 3d and S-on were able to flash kernels via flash_image GUI?
sent from my Evo LTE, usually.
So i rooted using the script...painless.
Just what i wanted, root but stock everything. Also picked up a app i saw in the apps section called voodoo something or other, that lets u temp unroot for updates/backup root. Sounds cool, hope it works. SU, wireless tether, and titanium all seem to work fine.
Maybe its just me, but i did notice the phone has some stutters now during startup and shortly after...prob just me
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s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
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Like your example of aosp not being able to be flashed with out S-OFF
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to say that I was successful in rooting my htc one for tmobile and installing a custom recovery. I used the tool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
Just wanted to spread the news in case you were wondering if it was possible.
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
RangerLG said:
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
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I hope I CAN unlock the bootloader, lol.
which version did you use? the M7 or the ATT or sprint? just wanted to know so i dont blow my phone up on the first day lols
pretty sure you can unlock the bootloader straight up on the HTC dev site.
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pretty sure you can unlock the bootloader straight up on the HTC dev site.
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Yeah thats what I did. I also followed the tutorial in the android development forum.
Edit: I'm gonna go for the M7 version because it says M7 in the bootloader. Wish me luck!
Yeah I'm wondering that too, do we use the M7 version or the ATT one? I'm assuming the M7 because the Tmo version is no different than the international version.
I used the m7 version last night. Worked great. Note sitting on the stock firmware with cwm touch and root. Needed to get rid of all the junk apps
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RangerLG said:
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
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You are going to need to unlock the bootloader
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Just want root access, not the custom recovery/ROMs
I'd like to have root access to my HTC One, so that I can use Titanium Backup. That's really the only reason I rooted my Tmobile Samsung Vibrant (for that, I used SuperOneClick).
I found this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
How do I use this program to maintain the stock recovery and just grant root access?
Is it possible to do the following?:
1- follow the prerequisites in the "To root the phone. Follow in order" and click Go.
2- Skip "Next, flash a recovery."
3- Flash Kernal
4- Run "Perm Root"
Will that work? If not, what do I need to do to get what I want?
I'm not interested in custom ROMs and I don't want to worry about screwing something up. I use wifi calling, and it's important that I have it.
Hi. Just after a few answers really.. I've just recently upgraded from a Desire HD, which i rooted and ROM'd using the now non existent Advanced hack kit.. Now that was easy enough to do as it was one piece of kit that did everything, but i've done a little reading about rooting and ROM'ing the One Max and i'm a little daunted as it's a new phone and don't fancy bricking it at this stage and have heard various people saying there are a few ways to do it..
Now i know i have to visit HTCDEV and sign up to unlock the bootloader, which i've yet to do.. But i just need to know if there's a similar one stage program after unlocking the bootloader like the hack kit on the previous phone. If it's too involved i won't bother, but would be nice to know if there is one..
Any help would be appreciated.
RyanH77 said:
Hi. Just after a few answers really.. I've just recently upgraded from a Desire HD, which i rooted and ROM'd using the now non existent Advanced hack kit.. Now that was easy enough to do as it was one piece of kit that did everything, but i've done a little reading about rooting and ROM'ing the One Max and i'm a little daunted as it's a new phone and don't fancy bricking it at this stage and have heard various people saying there are a few ways to do it..
Now i know i have to visit HTCDEV and sign up to unlock the bootloader, which i've yet to do.. But i just need to know if there's a similar one stage program after unlocking the bootloader like the hack kit on the previous phone. If it's too involved i won't bother, but would be nice to know if there is one..
Any help would be appreciated.
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You don't have to visit HTC Dev to unlock if your on Verizon. You can use rumrunner found in the Original Android Dev section to unlock, S-Off and root your device... If your not with Verizon, I believe you need to use HTC Dev and then you can use rummrunner or fire water also in Original Android Dev section.
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andrewjt19 said:
You don't have to visit HTC Dev to unlock if your on Verizon. You can use rumrunner found in the Original Android Dev section to unlock, S-Off and root your device... If your not with Verizon, I believe you need to use HTC Dev and then you can use rummrunner or fire water also in Original Android Dev section.
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Yeah i'm in the UK so no Verizon here...
So what you're saying is then, once i've unlocked the bootloader via HTCDEV, that i can use rumrunner to do the whole rooting thing in one program?? What about this, this seems to look similar to the advanced hack kit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578690
RyanH77 said:
Yeah i'm in the UK so no Verizon here...
So what you're saying is then, once i've unlocked the bootloader via HTCDEV, that i can use rumrunner to do the whole rooting thing in one program?? What about this, this seems to look similar to the advanced hack kit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578690
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I'm in UK and used firewater to temp root. unlock and s-off. then after that installed custom recovery and then rooted through that. then custom rom'd. it is quite involved as you need HTC drivers working fastboot and adb etc I haven't heard of anyone using the tool you quoted since I've had phone so it's up to you. and the tool probably won't be just a one click. what are your details in hboot?
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I didn't have luck with that toolkit, but give it a try. I know rummrunner works.
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