Did anyone watch this? Saw bits and pieces. Looks like LTE in 2013. And 1x advance but no mention if EV-do rev b. If my facts are wrong feel free to cirrect me. This is just what I read.
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wonder what will happen to our phones if we continue to keep it after 2013. they've only said that WiMax will continue to operate through 2012 but not after -.-
Granted i know people would already be getting new phones by then but what about the ones who keep their phones for longer?
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wonder what will happen to our phones if we continue to keep it after 2013. they've only said that WiMax will continue to operate through 2012 but not after -.-
Granted i know people would already be getting new phones by then but what about the ones who keep their phones for longer?
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No WiMax will continue to operate, but it will no longer be funded, or have devices sold for it.
But, this probably also means if the tower catches fire and kills every thing, that it won't be replaced.
Equivalent of an analog base station dieing today, no sense it forking out the cash the repair it so the guy with the bag phone can connect.
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No WiMax will continue to operate, but it will no longer be funded, or have devices sold for it.
But, this probably also means if the tower catches fire and kills every thing, that it won't be replaced.
Equivalent of an analog base station dieing today, no sense it forking out the cash the repair it so the guy with the bag phone can connect.
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hmm that's interesting. maybe by then everyone will jump on LTE and the WiMax node won't be so congested and we get better speeds! thats a plus for users that will stay with their phones.
i do see myself staying with this phone for a while because of the great quality, kick stand, best reception and ofcourse SIMCARD! but i have to admit that if there will be a good phone coming out with a good keyboard i will get it simcard or not.
coming from a series of keyboard phones (blackberry curve, moto q, palm 800w, touchpro, touchpro2, samsung epic) its hard to get used to touch screen. i feel like i dont even use the phone for texting as much no more because touchscreen keyboard gives me so much typos.
They said they would continue to sell WiMAX products into 2012 so I can't imagine they're going to sell them one month and then drop WiMAX support the next. However, it did look like there won't be any expansion of WiMAX beyond what's there already so I would think if you were buying a phone next year you would want the new LTE versions. Again, referring to purchases in mid 2012, not now. The way they described the new base stations it sounds like they can support WiMAX, LTE and CDMA across multiple frequencies all in one tower (which is what they're trying to get to so they have just one network to support) - but I'm not totally sure they'll have WiMAX in their own towers. It's supposed to save them somewhere around $4 Billion consolidating their network this way.
They also stated that wherever they had 3G they would have 4G. This all sounds really good if they actually execute it.
BGR covered the event with a live blog. Here's the link:
http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/07/live-from-sprints-strategy-update-event/
I believe I also heard they will be rolling out Motorola LTE enabled devices in 2012 towards the begining. But who knows.
so if we get 1x at least we get voice and data at same time, now do our photons support this??
I thought I heard someplace that the phones released in the latter part of this year would support it. IE Evo 3D, Photon, Epic Touch. But I"m not sure how true that was.
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I thought I heard someplace that the phones released in the latter part of this year would support it. IE Evo 3D, Photon, Epic Touch. But I"m not sure how true that was.
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not really sure how much truth it has as no one has any concrete information if any of the wimax phones support it
From what I heard the Evo 3D won't support the LTE, so I'm guessing the Photon probably won't either. But I think they said it would support the 1X. But again, this is just some of what I was reading on the forums. So take that with a grain of salt. But sometimes the info on here is legit.
voice and data at the same time is a cdma limitation not the device, and the Photon does not support LTE. But it is still a killer phone
Personally, I feel a bit cheated. Sprint picked the wrong technology out of the gate and is now trying to catch up. I still have not gotten the WiMax they said would be here by now. Had an EVO since day one and have never been able to connect to WiMax on either phone.
I pay the same amount as others but don't get the same amount of services. For some reason it almost feels like something about it should be illegal. Just feel a bit taken. Plus, no guarantee that around 2013 when the LTE network is gaining ground something better won't pop up that makes LTE look like dial-up. Then, same thing all over again.
I think we all saw this coming one day. Wimax is not great and penetration is horrible. Moving to LTE is the smartest thing they could do. I don't like that my phone is officially obsolete after 2012 but what can you do. People are still buying phones that I consider obsolete right out the door. ie..Galaxy sII epic touch. I just hope when I am ready to decide on staying with sprint or leaving that there will be a market for selling my phone and I won't lose a bunch of money on it. I am not going to wait till the time nears.
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voice and data at the same time is a cdma limitation not the device, and the Photon does not support LTE. But it is still a killer phone
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well evdo - 1x advanced overcomes this limitation and that is where Sprint is heading in 2012, the photon does support evdo rev b, but not sure about 1x advanced
Guess we will have to see
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That was super long winded but had some good info to go and research. But we'll see what actually happens.
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Typically a response is provided with TL;DR
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can we get a cliff notes version there
Good info and thanks for the read.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/#disqus_thread
This means our Photon will be 4G WORTHLESS come Mid 2012, since we all just got the Phone and are connected to a 2 year contract, we are Screwed. This also gives Sprint the OUT it wants as far as Unlimited. Those who get these NEW LTE Phones will be surprised when they DON'T HAVE Unlimited Data. Very Sneaky Sprint. Assholes.
Sneaky? This news has been out for months, before the Photon, GS2 and 3D even came out. People could have waited. They have to make a change over sometime.
Zooomg no wayz new 4geeees?!?!?!
WTH. People ARE Supposed to wait on Sprint to make up heir minds. We Photon owners just Grabbed our Ankles. Bottom Line.
Well I am still under my 30 days on my photon so I'm just gonna take it back and the 200 dollars worth of accessories I bought for it....then lock into the simply everything plan and get grandfathered in
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Nah, if you have WiMax coverage now, you will for a good long while. Probably until the hardware at the cell site takes a crap and they decide not to replace it.
If you don't currently have WiMax coverage, then you are waiting on LTE coverage.
By the time you actually get it you'll be close to an upgrade, and if not you could force the issue with CS and have them move your upgrade date so you can get an LTE device.
And if you are in one of the large markets that doesn't have WiMax yet, but will be getting LTE way before an upgrade date - like 8/2012 - (Do those exist?) I am really sure that Sprint would move your upgrade to get an LTE device since you bought a useless WiMax device in your area. Sprint has really good Customer Support and will do you right on it.
Now if your like me and live in the sticks, and barely get 3G, and can only get 4G with an hour drive....I'm some one who is a little upset by the fact that there is no 3G upgrades in the works.
#1, From what I read, Photon will still work.
#2, I had my Evo for a year and Photon like August 2nd, I have used 4G exactly THREE times. I know, I know, YouTube, Videos, Movies, Netflix...........I have a 55" and 40" LCD TV's, Laptop, Gaming Desktop, and 160Gb PS3. I really have no need to kill my battery.............(I just bought a Truck. GPS on 4G I might need, but I just purchased Car Dock so Battery is not an issue.!
Doesn't the photon support the 1900mhz frequency? Why would it not be compatible with Lte?
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Doesn't the photon support the 1900mhz frequency? Why would it not be compatible with Lte?
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Because Sprint would prefer you buy a new phone then pay to write a new radio for it.
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Just because Sprint is moving from WiMax doesn't mean you'll stop getting the service. They are just going to stop selling new devices at the end of 2012, and stop funding Clearwire for new markets. Current devices will continue to use the WiMax they do now.
This really doesn't worry me because I am not under contract on my photon. I am greatful for sprint actually doing something to make their network better but at this point I think it's too late for some people. If I had to guess 3g is not going to get better anytime soon. The focus is LTE and will continue to be.
Wifi calling would be a much better choice for myself to hold me over. I have a airave but that things is huge and drains a lot of electricity. I don't have the little airave because I wanted more than just the option to make calls. I wanted to be able to pull in data, which it does pretty well. I shouldn't have to have that thing running just to get cell reception in my house. I'll take the wifi calling for now and have the hope that LTE will come quicker than expected.
I think the biggest problem this will bring is the support for sprints current lineup. Why would motorola continue to dump money into developing for it's current Photon and same goes with the other manufacturers. If the phones cease to work on the new network, why would motorola keep making "older phone" current and up to date.
Y'all need to just chill. WiMAX isn't going anywhere for quite awhile. If you bothered to listen to the announcement you'd know that.
WiMAX = Clear
LTE = Sprint
If you want to know if your WiMAX phone is going to work you should probably look at what Clear is doing and stop dogging Sprint for building a BETTER 4G network in ADDITION to Clear's.
Not worried, by then I'll be on another device, sorry but I switch pretty often. Although this photon is just impressive so I might just keep it until I am convinced that I need to replace it, and the SGS2 is not it. Neither is another phone on sprint, nope not the iPhone either.
I probably won't be changing until a Quad Core phone comes out. At which point I may go ahead and do that. But for now. I'm square on the phone I have.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/#disqus_thread
This means our Photon will be 4G WORTHLESS come Mid 2012, since we all just got the Phone and are connected to a 2 year contract, we are Screwed. This also gives Sprint the OUT it wants as far as Unlimited. Those who get these NEW LTE Phones will be surprised when they DON'T HAVE Unlimited Data. Very Sneaky Sprint. Assholes.
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Not I, I bought mine outright from a person off craigslist
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/07/sprint-converts-its-cdma-network-to-lte/#disqus_thread
This means our Photon will be 4G WORTHLESS come Mid 2012, since we all just got the Phone and are connected to a 2 year contract, we are Screwed. This also gives Sprint the OUT it wants as far as Unlimited. Those who get these NEW LTE Phones will be surprised when they DON'T HAVE Unlimited Data. Very Sneaky Sprint. Assholes.
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Obviously you haven't been reading the news about Sprint and LTE. It was no secret that Sprint was going LTE especially when Wimax was not expanding to new markets anymore. If you watched the Oct 7th conference, they said that Wimax will still be around and in fact they will continue to sell Wimax devices throughout 2012 and there will be support for Wimax for another couple years (my guess is 2015). In 2013, we will all be eligible for an upgrade and at that point I will grab a LTE phone since by Aug 2013, LTE on sprint should have a ton of markets.
Right now there is no news on which markets will get LTE starting mid 2012. I expect Sprint will announce those initial deployed markets sometime in April-May next year. Hopefully the initial deployment includes the big markets who do not current have Wimax support such as San Diego, Phoenix, New Orleans, Detroit, Oklahoma City, etc.
Yeah. San Diego would be great. But. I am not gonna hold my breathe.
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If you bothered to listen to the announcement you'd know that.
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No, easier to pick the points I want to complain about and ignore the facts so I can harp about getting screwed. If you want a screw job, try to get Verizon to set a price anywhere near what many Sprint owners pay.
FACTS:
- WiMax will be available for years, possibly beyond Sprint's involvement
- LTE is 'scheduled for completion' in mid-2013, around the time most Photon owners will be out-of-contract anyway, if it mattered in the first place
- The majority of users don't get a 4G signal to start with
RESULT:
-Sprint is taking my not-4G-service away? Darn.
I think what everyone is missing is the effect this will have on your phones value. I personally keep my phones looking brand new so I can make a profit when it's time to upgrade. I personally haven't paid for a phone in a long time because I sell the old to get the new.
With this upcoming change this will hurt value and will make all phones running 4g look like old news. Sure there are people out there that have no clue about 4g 3g and just want a phone but that doesn't mean there aren't a lot that do know about it.
For instance, if you were on a carrier and they got bought out and your phone was working just fine on your original carrier and then all of a sudden the new carrier says your phone will be obsolete once we swich over to another band...What would you say?? Would this be a simple oh well i'll be good for a little while longer and then I'll just buy another phone. I think there would be more people complaining then. Sprint did the old bait and switch and I can't believe the amount of people who sit back supporting it. They increased the cancel fee, the upgrade fee, took away upgrades yearly, cancelled discounts for premium customers at stores, taking away 4g next year and providing crappy 3g service. What will it take for some people to realize that your being bent over. I just don't get why some people just take it laying down. So we paid the $10.00 fee to build the 4g service (which I know it's not a 4g fee)..which we all know it was and a bunch of bull was pushed to make it look otherwise. Now they want you to build their LTE service because the F'd up.
I know someone will say, well why are you with sprint then? Well that might be changing soon. Also I have to pay a cancellation fee and that is not fun and that's why there is a delay up to this point. I posted earlier in this thread and after really thinking about all the crap sprint is doing, I think I just woke up. I had my eyes open before but now they are wide open.
The photon is a good phone but I really think at this point the manufacturers will be focused on building LTE phones and will dump support on these now aging phones. Motorola is going to be the leader in LTE and is working on building the first LTE for sprint. Why are they going to keep throwing all these updates at the photon?
For everyone's sake, I hope LTE doesn't end up killing the 100k download speeds we get on our unlimited plans from sprint now. Someone's going to have to pay for the big switch going on.
That's true. But I personally keep my old phones so that I can have spares/backups. Etc. That's just me though.
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Figure I'd post this here and keep it somewhat updated so we dont have multiple threads all over the place in general for each device and news event.
1) here its Official Sprint gets Nexus First half of 2012...Sprints version WILL come with Google Wallet(NFS enabled) too....suck it Verizon! UPDATE: 32Gb confirmed!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sprint-gets-4g-lte-and-galaxy-nexus-its-official/
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=MA:AB:20120109:CES:GLX:NXS:300x1050
Update:
Engadget hands on video. http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/
2) Also a nice LG LTE phone on its way to sprint...
1.2GHz dual-core CPU, 4-inch Nova WVGA Display, Android 2.3.7. 5 megapixel rear cam, VGA front. case is made entirely from recycled plastic ....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/hands-on-with-lg-viper-sprint-lte-smartphone/
3) "... Sierra Wireless Tri-Network Hotspot will be able to connect to Sprint’s 3G, 4G LTE, and 4G WiMax networks, and support up to eight users at the same time. A built-in microSD card slot will enable teams to share documents easily.
In all, Sprint expects to launch around 15 4G LTE devices in 2012, including addtional smartphones, tablets, and data cards. ..."
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-an...viper-and-sierra-wireless-tri-network-hotspot
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I will continue to update this post during CES with info related to Sprint and such...
Good to see 4 inch screen phones are still relevant. I personally think it's the perfect size.
Will keep a close eye on Sprint's summit.
I love it when CES goes on. I don't like waiting all year long for stuff to finally come out. And, I noticed that Sprint doesn't look to be providing a Keynote this year... Maybe HTC?
That LG Viper looks like a mixup of an EVO and a Galaxy
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Wish they would get the 32GB version of the Nexus
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Good to see 4 inch screen phones are still relevant. I personally think it's the perfect size.
Will keep a close eye on Sprint's summit.
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yeah will be interesting to see what David Owens of Sprint has to show/say tomorrow at 2PM ET during his speach. thats the only official thing from sprint i see though.
Another tid bit that will be nice is Qualcomm's speech just before Sprints....
doubt much from HTC here or much more from sprint since they typically do stuff at CTIA if i recall correctly.
The phone looks awesome and im glad to see sprint pushing out LTE phones. When im at home im on wifi anyway lol. Ive had an eligible upgrade since the iphones 4s and galaxy S2 and both times i just decided they werent good enough to get rid of my evo. Sad thing is my evo 3d is not even rooted lol. Maybe this phone will be the phone that dose it. I love my galaxy 10.1 tab so theres a good chance
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Wish they would get the 32GB version of the Nexus
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Yeah that would have been better.... Verizon has the 32gb version :-(
meh.........
Well during David Owens interview with Engadget just now he kinda made point to say something that was troubling....
During the interview they were discussing LTE and devices and he made point to say "...well we haven't announced LTE pricing yet....." and then later "...LTE pricing TBD..."
So. Dunno if im reading too much into that as I can't see them charging more for LTE device than they did for WiMax devices as that would just be ludicris and you'd see an outrage they are not in the position to deal with. Hoping He was specifically meaning the Hotspot device plans and such like that and NOT phones.
btw hes the VP of Product Development at Sprint
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I'm likely reading too much into what he said and he likely was referring to Hotspot devices as they had just talked about or were about to talk about the new hotspot device I have mentioned in post 1.
Funny thing was during the interview most of the comments on engadgets live twitter chat were all about "ASK him about WINDOWS PHONE!!" lol
I could care less about that lol.
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Well during David Owens interview with Engadget just now he kinda made point to say something that was troubling....
During the interview they were discussing LTE and devices and he made point to say "...well we haven't announced LTE pricing yet....." and then later "...LTE pricing TBD..."
So. Dunno if im reading too much into that as I can't see them charging more for LTE device than they did for WiMax devices as that would just be ludicris and you'd see an outrage they are not in the position to deal with. Hoping He was specifically meaning the Hotspot device plans and such like that and NOT phones.
btw hes the VP of Product Development at Sprint
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I'm likely reading too much into what he said and he likely was referring to Hotspot devices as they had just talked about or were about to talk about the new hotspot device I have mentioned in post 1.
Funny thing was during the interview most of the comments on engadgets live twitter chat were all about "ASK him about WINDOWS PHONE!!" lol
I could care less about that lol.
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He was talking about "game changers" and failed to mention the EVO 4G. What a shame. That's one of the biggest game changers there ever was.
I've fell off following Sprint's LTE dance but I'm assuming the Lightsquared deal is green-lighted, pending official word?
Houston & this CES line-up makes me wonder.
Or will they scratch the 900Mhz 3G plans & use it for their LTE 4G as plan B?
it's really disappointing to me that the whole nexus line is samsung. cheap garbage.
of course, i will suck into techoholism that i have and buy the galaxy nexus to give it a shot. 3rd time's the charm? i hope so.
What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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Same as last year when the moto atrix was announced. CTIA is when we will see the next EVO. Here's hoping its LTE
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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Yup. Ppl should be shocked sprint was even there none the less announced devices and showed them off some.
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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I am aware of that but sometimes surprising the people with an unexpected announcement is a good thing!
Even announcing the Galaxy Nexus without any targeted release date or internal specs is like a half ass announcement. Are they actually going to wait for for LTE to roll out before they release this phone? At that point the phone will become even more irrelevant then it already is now as I am sure the big hitters will be coming at that time like the next EVO or the SGS3.
When is CTIA anyway?
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I am aware of that but sometimes surprising the people with an unexpected announcement is a good thing!
Even announcing the Galaxy Nexus without any targeted release date or internal specs is like a half ass announcement. Are they actually going to wait for for LTE to roll out before they release this phone? At that point the phone will become even more irrelevant then it already is now as I am sure the big hitters will be coming at that time like the next EVO or the SGS3.
When is CTIA anyway?
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CTIA is May 8-12th im pretty sure.
They said they were releasing these phones all in the first half of '12 if i recall too along with at least 15 total LTE devices for the year which is solid imho. I dont think they are concerned with the "big hitters" coming at that time too b/c the people that want to buy the Nexus will simply buy the Nexus no matter what usually.
Big announcement last night btw b/w Motorola and Intel working together. Finally gets Intel in a big name device manufacturer partnership. Not good for Qualcomm imho, but least this will likely infuse some more competition and make Qualcomm and others step up their game faster.
The intel stuff has me peaking interest right now. the guys are going for 14nm NEXT!!
The first one powered by Intel chips(Atom) will be Lenovo and its the K800. Some solid specs there for a phone.
4.5-inch 720p screen, 6 hours of HD video playback, 45 hours of audio, 8 hours of talk over a 3g network and 14 days on standby, McAfee security, 3D gaming, 1080p video playback, 1080p video capture, *MP camera with 15fps Capability. They showed it taking 10 freaking pics in a single second!!
new video of Sprint's Nexus added to OP.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/
Hey everyone, most of you will know me from the Evo 4G, I am the creator of Azrael X and Stock Turbo ROMS. I loved my Evo 4G and I loved developing ROMS for it. I was due for Upgrade in July of last year, just in time to get the Evo 3D. I was excited because of the Specs of the Evo 3D and traded "up" for my "amazing Evo 3D". To be honest, I wish I had held out for the Samsung GS-II or switched to Verizon now!
Here is the issues I have had with the Evo 3D.
My first one: I take good care of my phones, I think in all the time I had my Evo 4G I dropped it once and it was in a case so no damage. One day, I went to use my Evo 3D's camera to take a picture of something funny to send to my friends. Well, my phone became unresponsive and then my phone's display got corrupted. I tried all the troubleshooting steps, redid the phone ROM, hard reset, EVERYTHING. No dice and I heard that sometimes the camera gets disconnected and you can press real hard and it will work again. Ironically I did that and it worked once, the next day I went to use the camera and it did it again, froze the phone for a few minutes and corrupted the display. So I went to a Sprint service center and they "could not fix it, my replacement would be ordered and I can pick it up in a few days." So I get my replacement and...
I get a replacement with Hboot 1.50: Hboot 1.50 really sucks, that is all there is to it. HTC lets you root your phone...for a price! You void your warranty (not completely but it's more or less at the discretion of the Sprint employee if your covered by warranty or not if you bring it in for service with an issue) and it's not even a full root! You cannot flash kernels or radios without jumping through hoops and your phone is not S-Off. There is no current method to get S-Off with Hboot 1.50 and all attempts thus far have failed. Why could they have not just fixed my camera on my original one? This is livable with but has taken away the desire from me to develop ROMS for this phone. Then there is the....
Other issues with my replacement Evo 3D: The new one likes to restart itself randomly. It actually caused me to nearly late for work one morning because my carefully set alarm went off when it decided to restart itself. Thankfully I woke up by myself and was able to rush, get ready, and barely make it! I no longer rely on it as my alarm unless there is nothing else available. This NEVER happened with my Evo 4G, it reliably served as my alarm. Then there is...
CIQ: Sprint and HTC are spying on you; even a tinfoil hat will not prevent them from logging your phone usage. I mean, I am sure there are ways that all phones and carriers can do this, but where did I sign a form that allows them to monitor my usage? Not to mention this logging still eats up memory, CPU cycles, and battery. Even if they took this out now, not to mention developers found ways to rip out CIQ innards from the phone, this is a lameness that I cannot fathom. Then there is....
Sprint:
They removed the "Sprint Premier" program, which is really stupid. Now you have to wait 2 full years to get an upgraded phone.
The Network seems worse than ever. 4G coverage around the south suburbs of Chicago is bad at best, not there at worst. There are a couple of dead spots I always hit on the way home from work on 294.
Rude employees at Sprint. I ended up talking to a lady who kept interrupting me and laughed at me when I said something about that. I have never said, "F%$ you" to a lady on the phone until then. I actually said that and hung up, I was fuming! (UPDATE: Yes I know any company has good and bad reps and it's always a chance you will get one or the other, but she took the cake for the rudest CS rep I have dealt with from any company maybe ever. It was not just what she said, it was how she handled my questions. I should also mention she is a manager.)
Other things that I do not like about the Evo 3D.
The Speakerphone: Both Evo 3D phones I have had have mediocre speakers. The first one is way quieter and has NO bass compared to my former Evo 4G. Minor but noticeable.
The signal: This may have been "early teething" problems but my Evo 4G seemed to pull in signal much better than the Evo 3D. This could be because of premature radio and PRL updates at the time but I would be interested now to see how they compare. My Evo 4G would have 5 bars while the 3D would have 1-3 bars.
The charger port: The Evo 4G was nice because the charging port was right on the bottom of the phone. This made it easy to charge it while you mess with the phone and/or want to charge and talk at the same time. The Evo 3D has the charger port on the upper-left side. If you attempt to charge and talk, you are putting stress on your cable and the port itself. Stupid placement IMO.
Less tinker friendly: Besides the already mentioned Hboot 1.5 (partial root and partial warranty breaker) you cannot use the volume or power buttons while the cover is off. This is of course REALLY being nitpicky as there is not much need for it. But when you need access to the battery, having to take the back off every time is an extra step.
Of course, the Evo 3D is a better phone than the Evo 4G as far as hardware specs and screen quality. I just wish it was better in almost all ways instead of just specs.
The good of the Evo 3D is quite numerous of course.
The specs
The 3D features are neat
Increased memory
The screen slightly better quality
No more light bleeding like on the Evo 4G
Hboot 1.5 is a stupid means of control and I cannot believe we void our warranty for the sake of a half-ass root! I had aspirations for Azrael X 3D but honestly I feel the Evo 3D has some great ROMS already and Hboot 1.5 is a big deal breaker for me.
I might have to pass on HTC and Sprint too next time around.
More on the next post, but I want to know if anyone else has buyers (and/or Sprint) remorse lately. I am thinking of moving to "Big Red" network.
Luckily I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to be going through. I would recommend calling or stopping by sprint and have your replacement swapped out. Who knows you might get lucky and get one with 1.4, good luck man hope it works out.
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I would definitely push them to get you a replacement, it sounds like they gave you another defective one. If they give you a hard time about it showing "relocked" shoot me a PM and I may be able to help you out.
Man what's up. I remember your Roms and work for the EVO4G. Deff top notch.
Personally I don't have buyers remorse as mine has been great here no issues hardware wise.
As for the things you mentioned with sprint itself like the premier program...I'm with ya on that 100%. Hate it that they took that away. BUT according to the Sprint Advocates group that has conf calls with execs each month, Sprint has been researching a new loyalty program to replace it with to reward those of us again. Maybe the buy your upgrade back trial program is a slight form of it, though I know they have discussed more.
As for leaving sprint if you head to big red you pretty might end up with only getting Samsung phones as they have announced their stance on bootloaders and I wouldn't be shocked to see their future HTC phones not on the unlock list...
Personally i can't beat the price here and I really want to stick around with Sprint and see these NetworkVision deployments because network wise they will improve things 10 fold in many areas. The mere backhaul improvement being done at the towers is a giant leap in itself.
S4GRU.com has a ton of very very detailed info, a lot inside info too on this. Great site btw, any Sprint customer interested in the network and such I suggest heading over there and reading the enormous amount of detailed info they have, including some spectrum analysis...
Saw you mentioned Chicago specifically so I linked the two wall posts that discuss some info on that area specifically for ya.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...nd-lte-deployment-details-emerge-for-chicago/
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
As far as the customer service, that's a shame man and you really can't defend them for that.
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Hey ric, I thought you disappeared! I used to love your 4g roms. That sucks you've had so many issues. Good to see you're alive though.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Hey, I'm in the Chicago area too and I know there can be dead spots and sprint is the slowest of the carriers it seems. Where I'm at though, service is incredible. The Crestwood area. But I can't venture out too far before I see speeds drop. Signal strength seems to stay strong everywhere I go though. And I don't even bother using 4G. I can get it at home but not much anywhere else. And with wifi at home, what's the point? But I'm still happy with the service.
The phone I love too. I dropped it a couple times while in a case, no damage. Phone doesn't reboot, everything is responsive, etc. Maybe your replacement has something wrong with it.
Now, I did see lots of problems on custom roms or kernels or both for some reason. I trust the developers know what they're doing and I'm not a developer so I don't know why there were so many issues then. I didn't try every rom or kernel, but the popular ones I did always restarted and froze on my phone. It was like clock work. So I've stuck to the stock setup with some mods on top of it and have 0 problems.
As for CIQ goes, sprint removed it in the latest update I believe. But I wouldn't put it past then if there's some other way they're tracking us. Since the removal of ciq, things perform world's better too.
I won't get too into their customer service but I have had some really friendly support and I've had some that clearly don't enjoy their job but weren't rude to me. It happens everywhere.
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Sucks that you are having so many issues, my 3d has been rock solid but sprints data in my home town is horrible. Stuck in a contract til mid 2013. Hoping to see some improvement by then with the upcoming lte. Although i dont see much about florida in their upcoming deployments. Think i read awhile back about Miami, but that was it. Best wishes to you and hope things improve for all of us with sprint issues.
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CIQ is indeed removed, since the January 13th update. Most phone manufacturers and Sprint are working with eachother to remove CIQ if it hasn't been already. Be glad you didn't go with Samsung, I've had so many with issues it's not funny. If you are mad about a camera issue on HTC, wait till you see what Samsung can give you. Late (if ever updates), radio issues, physical KB keypress skips, crashing camera, you name it (depending on the model). The SII is lambasted with problems galore, google it. It sucks that the HTC is locked down more, but IMO, it's not like a Samsung so it's not entirely necessary to root because the phone itself doesn't have major experience killing issues.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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i second this what the hell is going on nothing that was said was terrible.. explain ur reasoning >:O
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Freedom of speech does not apply on a forum.
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"Freedom of Speech" doesn't always comply with XDA forum policies.
You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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I don't know what was said here but many of the rules here could be used to limit your speech and rightfully so. For example the rule 2.4...
Regardless PM the mod or a mod and ask, and you'll likely get an answer.
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I feel compelled to reply an I never post I have like 3 maybe IDk. Reading your post you sound very frustrated I get that been there but you are/were a custom rom developer?? How many cell carriers have you been with?
I was with Verizon for years they do not give a **** about any of their customers. They are more expensive for everything and they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Verizon does not have blazing fast data 24/7 that covers every square inch of the USA.
They dropped sprint premiere, so what if you call sales they will upgrade you almost anytime you wanna buy a new phone an lock you down for two more years. Sprint buys back phones they always have some deal or incentive goin on. You buy a Verizon phone you aren't getting an upgrade for two yrs forget it.
Yea its not uncommon to talk to an idiot on the phone I myself as soon as I hear an accent not of the English language ask to speak someone else because I cannot understand them but you own a phone that they prob couldn't buy with their whole weeks paycheck.
I've had all the issues that you have with reboots freezes and whatnot no camera probs this is my 4th one. But hey they have replaced them with no hassle I've been offered other phones the photon for example which I passed on.
Idk what else you ask of them when they replace the defective product you can't justify getting mad at them for replacing a defective device with the lastest and least defective software.
THIS PHONE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE EVO4G which I had several of those I shattered the screen multiple times on all of them from dropping it. The speaker was a joke sure it was louder than the 3d until it blew the **** out. The 3D is sturdy and durable no problems from dropping not even a scratch on the screen I use no cases or protectors. Usb charging port is pathetic pos on EVO4g. 3D came out 1 year after 4G pretty dam good phone. There's nothing mind blowing that has come out since the 3D release I just don't get it. Were just now starting to see the next wave of technology that will soon outshine the phone.
Every other electronic device that you modify through software or hardware not provided by the OEM voids the warranty why does everyone feel cell phone manufactures/carriers shouldn't its just mind boggling. If you're fedup an rdy to tell sprint **** you kiss my ass it ain't always greener on the otherside even if its red.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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I have no idea what you said but I am guessing your post was a typical "retaliation" thread against mine and maybe the mods removed it so this post does not become a back and forth. But 30 posts about how they removed your threads are taking THIS thread off subject, so please stick to the subject matter.
A lot of people reply to posts with counter arguments but many go overboard. Maybe you did and they removed it? I can only speculate....
Anyhow, you can disagree with me of course but keep it clean. I opened this post with MY feelings, if yours differ offer counter arguments but no need to be rude (not saying your reply was rude, but seems there was something up with it).
I added to my first post now with more information
Loved your roms on the 4G, basically the only reason I responded to this thread (usually stay away from xda now). Sorry about the problems you are having.
Hopefully you find a phone and a carrier that treats you as well as your last phone.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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Hi Ric, I also loved your roms on the EVO 4G too. I also made the switch to red, not because of the EVO 3D. I loved the phone and it's a solid phone but I didn't have a 1.5 hboot either. I might have felt differently if I had one. I as you did got tired of watching my coverage get worse. I'm not that far from you and I was paying for 4G coverage and hardly getting it . Some may disagree but I felt my 4G was better when I had my OG EVO. I'm no longer under "unlimited" data but is sprint truly "unlimited" when there's threads about guys getting cancelled for using too much data when it's "unlimited"..Just my .02. I'm sure in true XDA fashion someone will say "good riddance" or "cool story bro" but I'm a forum veteran and have seen it all on forums of all types. If it helps with your choice I'm loving the 4GLTE coverage Ric.
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Since Sprint and HTC don't officially acknowledge the problem with switching and staying connected to "weak" LTE signals on the Evo, do you think they will ever release a fix? I am frustrated with the horrible 3G speeds in Houston while being in locations with a LTE signal - I sporadically connect to 4G at work and home but it never lasts.
I really like the EVO 4G LTE and various roms like MeanROM, but I am about to give up on Sprint due to not being able to use my phone except for on wi-fi (3G speeds often at 0.15 Mbps or below, only improving in the early to late evening). If the radio was at least fixed to properly connect to LTE then I could at least better evaluate the situation before calling it quits, but as it is right now I have no hope of ever using LTE on a consistent basis. The only reason I stayed with Sprint in the first place was knowing that Networkvision would go live in July that would supposedly improve 3G speeds and enable LTE. 3G speeds have nearly been unusable during mid mornings/afternoons for over a year now and NetworkVision didn't do anything for me yet.
for what i pay im happy with sprint
and ive experienced 4G at some parts here in the Bronx and its pretty fast to me
maybe its just your area. if i would ever switch i would go prepaid
Its more of a sprint issue, I have to do the airplane trick on all the lte phones in the house and as far as I know the gs3 and iPhone 5 don't have handoff issues like the evo does
This issue was known of before the phone was even released. Sprint has tried to fix it, according to their updates atleast, obviously it hasn't happened. At this point only time will tell. I wouldn't worry about it too much, if your that mad with sprint, switch carriers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905007
Read this thread, it will explain pretty much everything there is, relating to LTE issues. It's been an on going problem since the phone was released. Trust me, no EVO LTE is exempt. The people that say they have no issues, haven't witnessed it first hand against another phone.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, if your that mad with sprint, switch carriers.
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Pretty much anyone with an EVO LTE signed away another two years, so leaving will cost $350 plus the cost of the next phone.
It seems to me advertising a phone as LTE, especially to the point of actually adding that to its name, and then delivering a phone with this defect should be grounds to cancel your contact, but not in the real world I guess.
It's no wonder Sprint and HTC won't acknowledge the problem. If they did they might open themselves up to costly damages.
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Pretty much anyone with an EVO LTE signed away another two years, so leaving will cost $350 plus the cost of the next phone.
It seems to me advertising a phone as LTE, especially to the point of actually adding that to its name, and then delivering a phone with this defect should be grounds to cancel your contact, but not in the real world I guess.
It's no wonder Sprint and HTC won't acknowledge the problem. If they did they might open themselves up to costly damages.
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but if you did a little research, you would have known this phone was being released with LTE issues. It really just comes down to patience. Unfortunately, there are a few users that just can't grasp the concept of patience.
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Pretty much anyone with an EVO LTE signed away another two years, so leaving will cost $350 plus the cost of the next phone.
It seems to me advertising a phone as LTE, especially to the point of actually adding that to its name, and then delivering a phone with this defect should be grounds to cancel your contact, but not in the real world I guess.
It's no wonder Sprint and HTC won't acknowledge the problem. If they did they might open themselves up to costly damages.
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You can easily go I'm and have it swapped out for an SGS3...many have done it...
And I dunno where you guys get the whole "...sprint and HTC don't acknowledge the problem..." as they have said its being worked on many times already and its still an open issue in their system... So please drop the bs speak like they are acting like it isn't an issue...they may not be doing a good job fixing it, but they have done anything BUT act like its a non issue..
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You can easily go I'm and have it swapped out for an SGS3...many have done it...
And I dunno where you guys get the whole "...sprint and HTC don't acknowledge the problem..." as they have said its being worked on many times already and its still an open issue in their system... So please drop the bs speak like they are acting like it isn't an issue...they may not be doing a good job fixing it, but they have done anything BUT act like its a non issue..
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Will they actually swap it out for me?
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but if you did a little research, you would have known this phone was being released with LTE issues. It really just comes down to patience. Unfortunately, there are a few users that just can't grasp the concept of patience.
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Well, since I bought my phone as a pre order, that would have been a bit difficult.
Not to be a ****, but I love when people think they know everybody's personal experience.
Sprint touted this phone as being an advanced LTE capable phone, and promised their network was just around the corner.
They then published a schedule stating that los Angeles would go live in September. After I bought it they changed to October. It's November. If not for xda, I still would not know LTE was even here yet.
My experience with AT&T does not leave me with much confidence Sprint would swap me out with a GN3, especially since I actually bought the thing from Wirefly.
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I preordered my Evo LTE and it was not well known at the time to have lte issues as no one even had the phone. And when it came out no LTE network went live until July. So how was I supposed to magically know to avoid this phone and wait 2 months for the Samsung s3?
Also Sprint isn't exactly acknowledging the lte issue, they certainly didn't do so when I called to complain. In fact all that has been offered so far is to exchange my phone for a refurb LTE which won't be any better and possibly worse. They weren't receptive to exchanging to a Samsung galaxy s3, they probably will only do so after a lot of effort and multiple exchanges of the evo for crappy refurbs. Even then I have no idea if the 4g network on Sprint is even worth the effort in my city as the evo doesn't give a proper representation of coverage.
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Will they actually swap it out for me?
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Go to a corp store and explain the issue show them in store the sgs3 with signal and urs without it if need be or possible... It might take them replacing ur EVO once before they do the swap for sgs3 but I've seen many do it easily.
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I preordered my Evo LTE and it was not well known at the time to have lte issues as no one even had the phone. And when it came out no LTE network went live until July. So how was I supposed to magically know to avoid this phone and wait 2 months for the Samsung s3?
Also Sprint isn't exactly acknowledging the lte issue, they certainly didn't do so when I called to complain. In fact all that has been offered so far is to exchange my phone for a refurb LTE which won't be any better and possibly worse. They weren't receptive to exchanging to a Samsung galaxy s3, they probably will only do so after a lot of effort and multiple exchanges of the evo for crappy refurbs. Even then I have no idea if the 4g network on Sprint is even worth the effort in my city as the evo doesn't give a proper representation of coverage.
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You called and spoke to an entry level CS rep.... You could call again and get them to tell you WiMAX rollout is going on still on your area...
It's documented on sprints side and many reps if they have a clue know exactly where to pull it up at stating such...
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It seems in areas where LTE is rolled out and covers well, the transfer or handoff works somewhat well. In areas where LTE isn't completely rolled out, the handoff fails at times, hence the airplane mode switch seems to work. Sprint acknowledged an issue with the handoff in their own forums. I will say, with the newest CMX, I have less issues than with any sense base, for me anyway the handoff almost works every time from LTE to 3G. just my opinion
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I'll sell the phone if it becomes an issue for me. I wouldn't even give a second thought to it. Since i have no LTE for most likely a very long time I will probably have moved onto my next device. I know s4gru says October for the first LTE sites in MN but I suspect they are way behind target of that. I did the whole toggle wimax garbage for two years with my evo shift. While it was more to save battery than for signal issues I don't want to do that again. I want my phone to work as it should without having to toggle stupid switches. Every time you do that you have to wait for the switch to take place and any data connection that is happening seems to get dropped and you have to reload.
I highly doubt Sprint will ever officially confirm the existence of the flaw because they can very easily blame it on the network. Since LTE will not be fully rolled out for a very long time I have a feeling the EVO LTE will be long in its grave by the time they would have to admit anything.
I've talked to many Sprint reps and beyond 1st level. I haven't found any reps that state the problem is known. I've called HTC, they state there is no problem and offer to check the phone (w/ a fee if no issue is found). The Sprint reps various choices of BS are that it's the new network or different phones handle it differently due to signal optimizations for balanced loading. I go to Houston quite a bit in the evenings and weekends now and see the issue all the time since there is usually an S3 user with me as well. Unfortunately I can't go to the Sprint store while I am there, so I take it to my corp store where I bought the phone. They tell me to take it to the repair store (affiliate), repair store shrugs their shoulders says its maybe the new network, laughs, thinks I'm nuts, tells me to take it to the corp store to get it swapped, and.... well you get the picture.
The evo lte i had gets no 4g and 56k 3g speed all the time. Chicago has no 4g yet. I got a Samsung galaxy s3, and rocking lte all over Chicago. Sprint lies and htc ffffed up this phone and wont admit it. But at least I got both phones for free.
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Your completely right. I'm in San Antonio and at first when lte was getting deployed I would get it sporadically, but now I get it constantly and its consistent.
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You guys that don't have problems, hang on to those phones and don't touch that firmware as you don't want to mess up the special firmware that HTC sent to your phone with the issue fixed.
Let me start off by saying I'm an EVO/HTC fan, and not an employee of HTC or Sprint...
After years of no 4g for Original EVO, 3D and now the LTE in a large city in South Florida, I finally get fed up enough to call HTC USA, because if I'm not getting 4g, I at least want to JB. After stopping several support individuals and managers from reading from their script, I finally got an answer that floored me. Do to the different processor and chipset in our phone, HTC has not even released a JB source to Sprint. While the agent was VERY careful to never use the word NEVER, he basically said they have no current plans to release JB for the dual core USA/Sprint model, which is why we were left off the upgrade list in the first place.
Other models of the One series have already received at least a prep download for JB. If Sprint doesn't at least have the initial download to prepare our phone for JB, it doesn't look too good for us.
I think Sprint and HTC have no intention to release JB to us, and we need to accept it. I hope I'm wrong, but it was the most info I have ever received from HTC.
Lucy, you have some splaning to do!
They find the MSM8960 different? The rep may have stopped reading his "script", but may have made up a new 1.
I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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there currently is LTE coverage in the Lauderdale area according to Sensorly. The airport is covered in it, sections of I-95, Broadview Park. Just give it time, deployment isn't that quick.
I keep saying the Evo LTE is still a different product line to HTC and Sprint, no matter how many similarities there are with the HOX. From a project and product management perspective, each device will have it's own requirements, development schedule, deliverables, etc. Then each carrier adds another set of differences. We can never expect to have everything the HOX gets. The HOX and HOS are their global handsets, and we're off in our own little US/Sprint only/Dual core/LTE world. I'll be glad if we ever get a JB upgrade, but we better not hold our breaths because we're just going to turn purple.
This doesn't make any sense...
F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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I still got mine
So bc there is no leak you think they don't have a prep build they are working on?..... Come on use some logic bud, we are getting JB.
Locking this thread btw as xda is not a place to come and just have a complain fest like this will turn into, esp while there is a JB thread already.
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