I just got the sgs2 from amazon, I checked the baseband and kernel, which says that I have UHKG7 (firmware) and UHKG4 (baseband).
I know this corresponds to the UH_MUL_KG7 version when I do the CF-Root. However, I was looking through the custom rom's section and most of the ROM's seem to be built off of "KI3"
Does this mean I should flash the KI3 version of CF-Root instead of the KG7 one? I want to be able to play around and try a bunch of custom rom's later. does it matter which CF-Root I flash at this point or do I HAVE to have the KI3 CF-Root to be able to flash the KI3-based custom roms?
Also, would flashing the KI3-based stuff mess up my phone?
Not new to flashing custom roms but I've never had a phone with this many kernel options/versions. Any help is appreciated guys, thanks.
zeotrope said:
I just got the sgs2 from amazon, I checked the baseband and kernel, which says that I have UHKG7 (firmware) and UHKG4 (baseband).
I know this corresponds to the UH_MUL_KG7 version when I do the CF-Root. However, I was looking through the custom rom's section and most of the ROM's seem to be built off of "KI3"
Does this mean I should flash the KI3 version of CF-Root instead of the KG7 one? I want to be able to play around and try a bunch of custom rom's later. does it matter which CF-Root I flash at this point or do I HAVE to have the KI3 CF-Root to be able to flash the KI3-based custom roms?
Also, would flashing the KI3-based stuff mess up my phone?
Not new to flashing custom roms but I've never had a phone with this many kernel options/versions. Any help is appreciated guys, thanks.
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It would make more sense to flash KI3 stock firmware root with KI3 followed by custom rom of choice .
jje
JJEgan said:
It would make more sense to flash KI3 stock firmware root with KI3 followed by custom rom of choice .
jje
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thanks for the reply. if i switch to ki3 stock firmware should everything (theoretically) work properly?
zeotrope said:
thanks for the reply. if i switch to ki3 stock firmware should everything (theoretically) work properly?
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Yes all should work .
jje
JJEgan said:
Yes all should work .
jje
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OK, sorry for being so dense but one more question.
Say I go that way and flash KI3 stock then CF-Root for KI3....
then i flash a custom ROM, am I limited to custom roms that only work with KI3 kernel?
in other words, do i have to keep switching to different stock kernels as I try different custom roms?
zeotrope said:
OK, sorry for being so dense but one more question.
Say I go that way and flash KI3 stock then CF-Root for KI3....
then i flash a custom ROM, am I limited to custom roms that only work with KI3 kernel?
in other words, do i have to keep switching to different stock kernels as I try different custom roms?
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Usually when you flahs a custom rom it comes with it´s own kernel so you dont have to worry. If the rom doesn´t come with it´s own kernel you may be able to use it with any kernel (few exceptions)
rj.camargo said:
Usually when you flahs a custom rom it comes with it´s own kernel so you dont have to worry. If the rom doesn´t come with it´s own kernel you may be able to use it with any kernel (few exceptions)
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awesome, do i have to worry about the custom rom overwriting the CWM from cf-root?
Cwm is built into the kernel in samsung land, and most custom roms come with a kernel with Cwm.
Kernel version should be the same as rom version for stock roms/cf root. Custom roms often come with a recommended kernel.
You can move between newer and older stock roms via odin or restoring cwm backup, generally without wipe.
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I have a SGS2 with the default ROM the phone came with, and CF-Root installed with CWM v3.0.0.5. Specifically, this is what’s installed:
Baseband version: I9100XXKDJ
Kernel: version 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKE8-CL214845, [email protected]#2
I just launched Kies to check for a firmware update, and was told this:
Current firmware: PDA:KE2 / PHONE:KDJ / CSC:KE2 (NEE)
Latest firmware: PDA:KF3 / PHONE:KE7 / CSC:KF1 (NEE)
I don’t quite understand what constitutes the Android firmware as I’ve recently migrated from iOS where baseband (modem) and OS are the two versions one needs to keep in mind (or just OS, if you had an unlocked iPhone like I did) for a jailbreak/unlock. Thus a few questions:
1. What are the PDA, PHONE and CSC parts of the firmware?
2. Why are there so many types of firmware; if you look at Chainfire’s CF-Root post there’s a host of patched kernels. Are SGS2s sold in regions with varying hardware? With the iPhone there was one hardware version, one OS (Verizon excluded). Simple.
3. I want to flash a custom ROM (Batista70 based on 2.3.4) - what is the best way to make sure everything is up to date before I do this? I was thinking of letting Kies update (which I guess will remove my root access), then installing the latest version of CF-Root with CWM 4, and finally flashing the ROM from CWM. I have the relevant app data backed up with Titanium Backup.
Many thanks!
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I have a SGS2 with the default ROM the phone came with, and CF-Root installed with CWM v3.0.0.5. Specifically, this is what’s installed:
Baseband version: I9100XXKDJ
Kernel: version 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKE8-CL214845, [email protected]#2
I just launched Kies to check for a firmware update, and was told this:
Current firmware: PDA:KE2 / PHONE:KDJ / CSC:KE2 (NEE)
Latest firmware: PDA:KF3 / PHONE:KE7 / CSC:KF1 (NEE)
I don’t quite understand what constitutes the Android firmware as I’ve recently migrated from iOS where baseband (modem) and OS are the two versions one needs to keep in mind (or just OS, if you had an unlocked iPhone like I did) for a jailbreak/unlock. Thus a few questions:
1. What are the PDA, PHONE and CSC parts of the firmware?
2. Why are there so many types of firmware; if you look at Chainfire’s CF-Root post there’s a host of patched kernels. Are SGS2s sold in regions with varying hardware? With the iPhone there was one hardware version, one OS (Verizon excluded). Simple.
3. I want to flash a custom ROM (Batista70 based on 2.3.4) - what is the best way to make sure everything is up to date before I do this? I was thinking of letting Kies update (which I guess will remove my root access), then installing the latest version of CF-Root with CWM 4, and finally flashing the ROM from CWM. I have the relevant app data backed up with Titanium Backup.
Many thanks!
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1. Pda is the basic firmware, Phone is the modem responsible for wifi/2g/3g, csc is the country specific code - language files/apps etc. You shouldn't consider these as separate, they all combine to make a single firmware (which will have the pda code)
2. There are multiple firmwares because they keep getting updated, the cf-root has multiple versions to accomodate those who haven't update to the latest. Usually the highest alphabetical and number code is the latest, currently kg3 i believe
3. Whatever kies updates, flashing a rom over it will overwrite anyway so there's no point using kies
Make a nandroid backup from cwm before you start flashing ROM in case something goes wrong
Ok, so neither pda, phone or scs constitute the kernel? I appreciate that custom ROMs incorporate the official (and sometimes the unofficial) Samsung releases meaning I don't need to faff around with Kies, but CF-Root handles only the kernel if understand it correctly.
In Chainfire's guide on rooting, specifically the but on getting rid of the warning triangle, he says "Find an original Samsung signed stock kernel (preferably from the same stock firmware you have, but it's not terribly important)" which I don't understand. How can I find a kernel, all I have are ROMs which as I understand it do not include the kernel.
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Ok, so neither pda, phone or scs constitute the kernel? I appreciate that custom ROMs incorporate the official (and sometimes the unofficial) Samsung releases meaning I don't need to faff around with Kies, but CF-Root handles only the kernel if understand it correctly.
In Chainfire's guide on rooting, specifically the but on getting rid of the warning triangle, he says "Find an original Samsung signed stock kernel (preferably from the same stock firmware you have, but it's not terribly important)" which I don't understand. How can I find a kernel, all I have are ROMs which as I understand it do not include the kernel.
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here is all the roms and kernels
if you read closely under each rom their is also a link for kernels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Nitsson said:
Ok, so neither pda, phone or scs constitute the kernel? I appreciate that custom ROMs incorporate the official (and sometimes the unofficial) Samsung releases meaning I don't need to faff around with Kies, but CF-Root handles only the kernel if understand it correctly.
In Chainfire's guide on rooting, specifically the but on getting rid of the warning triangle, he says "Find an original Samsung signed stock kernel (preferably from the same stock firmware you have, but it's not terribly important)" which I don't understand. How can I find a kernel, all I have are ROMs which as I understand it do not include the kernel.
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Kernel is a (small) part of PDA. So flash PDA replaces the kernel. But you can flash kernel separately without changing the other parts of PDA.
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zabihjan said:
here is all the roms and kernels
if you read closely under each rom their is also a link for kernels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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Kernel is a (small) part of PDA. So flash PDA replaces the kernel. But you can flash kernel separately without changing the other parts of PDA.
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Great, thanks. So if I flash a custom ROM based on KG2, do I need to flash the ROM first followed by CF-Root? I imagine that if I flash CF-Root first and then the customer ROM via CWM, this will overwrite portions of CF-Root which is needed for CWM etc.
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Great, thanks. So if I flash a custom ROM based on KG2, do I need to flash the ROM first followed by CF-Root? I imagine that if I flash CF-Root first and then the customer ROM via CWM, this will overwrite portions of CF-Root which is needed for CWM etc.
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CF-Root (flashed through Odin) is the 1st step in running a custom rom. The kernel will replace the stock samsung recovery with the clockworkmod recovery which is then used to flash custom ROMs
Custom ROMs may replace the CF-Root kernel but no responsible dev would include a kernel that removes the CWM recovery so you do not need to worry about overwriting it.
On a side note, in an original full stock rom (in tar format) the zImage file within the tar is the kernel, if you wanted to flash the original kernel back then you would remove all the other files from the tar (and leave zImage) and flash the tar in Odin as PDA.. although this wouldn't be a great idea as it would remove the custom CWM recovery
About point 3 - flashing a rom is the 'update'. Forget about KIES when you start flashing your roms, because all of the software is in there, the rom itself.
viva.fidel said:
CF-Root (flashed through Odin) is the 1st step in running a custom rom. The kernel will replace the stock samsung recovery with the clockworkmod recovery which is then used to flash custom ROMs
Custom ROMs may replace the CF-Root kernel but no responsible dev would include a kernel that removes the CWM recovery so you do not need to worry about overwriting it.
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viva.fidel said:
On a side note, in an original full stock rom (in tar format) the zImage file within the tar is the kernel, if you wanted to flash the original kernel back then you would remove all the other files from the tar (and leave zImage) and flash the tar in Odin as PDA.. although this wouldn't be a great idea as it would remove the custom CWM recovery
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Excellent, I get that part. Good explanation.
How about the order of flashing; the custom ROM I want to try is based on KG3, and I also want to flash the updated CF-Root v.4.1 KG3 kernel followed by the stock Samsung kernel to rid myself of that warning triangle (any future flashing I will do through CWM and not Odin). Should I install the custom ROM via my current version of recovery, then, upgrade CF-Root via the patched KG3 kernel, and finally flash the stock Samsung KG3 kernel?
Since I'm using KE2 at the moment, I'm thinking that flashing just a KG3 kernel to get CF-Root 4.1 isn't a best idea, as the KE2 firmware overall might not be compatible with a KG3 kernel.
Custom rom has to be installed as per each developers instructions for each individual rom .Not all are CWM flashable .
Personnel i would upgrade the CF root to the later verion before rthe custom rom but i would also read the details of the rom has it may have the latest CWM installed .
jje
Nitsson said:
Excellent, I get that part. Good explanation.
How about the order of flashing; the custom ROM I want to try is based on KG3, and I also want to flash the updated CF-Root v.4.1 KG3 kernel followed by the stock Samsung kernel to rid myself of that warning triangle (any future flashing I will do through CWM and not Odin). Should I install the custom ROM via my current version of recovery, then, upgrade CF-Root via the patched KG3 kernel, and finally flash the stock Samsung KG3 kernel?
Since I'm using KE2 at the moment, I'm thinking that flashing just a KG3 kernel to get CF-Root 4.1 isn't a best idea, as the KE2 firmware overall might not be compatible with a KG3 kernel.
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which rom are you trying to flash? If it needs to be flashed through cwm then you'll have to flash a custom kernel through odin first to give you cwm recovery (custom rom can't be flashed with the stock samsung recovery), then flash the rom in cwm. Does the rom include cf-root? If it doesn't then flash the cf-root kernel and then the stock kernel to get rid of the triangle
If the rom can be flashed through odin then you can skip flashing the initial cwm-enabling ke2 kernel
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JJEgan said:
Custom rom has to be installed as per each developers instructions for each individual rom .Not all are CWM flashable .
Personnel i would upgrade the CF root to the later verion before rthe custom rom but i would also read the details of the rom has it may have the latest CWM installed .
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Ok thanks. I also think that I should install the latest version of CF-Root first.
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which rom are you trying to flash? If it needs to be flashed through cwm then you'll have to flash a custom kernel through odin first to give you cwm recovery (custom rom can't be flashed with the stock samsung recovery), then flash the rom in cwm. Does the rom include cf-root? If it doesn't then flash the cf-root kernel and then the stock kernel to get rid of the triangle
If the rom can be flashed through odin then you can skip flashing the initial cwm-enabling ke2 kernel
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It's the Batista 3.2 ROM that I intend to flash. I already have CF-Root / recovery installed, and this ROM also installs recovery v4.0.1.4, but what I don't know if this is the same as the recovery included in CF-Root - most likely not.
I'll probably go ahead and will flash the custom CF-Root KG3 kernel and the stock KG3 kernel via Odin to get rid of the triangle, and finally the ROM via recovery. That should do it.
Should be pinned. This was exactly was I wanted to know and maybe many others too.
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It's the Batista 3.2 ROM that I intend to flash. I already have CF-Root / recovery installed, and this ROM also installs recovery v4.0.1.4, but what I don't know if this is the same as the recovery included in CF-Root - most likely not.
I'll probably go ahead and will flash the custom CF-Root KG3 kernel and the stock KG3 kernel via Odin to get rid of the triangle, and finally the ROM via recovery. That should do it.
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Think CF-Root comes with CWM 4.0.0.2
Looks like Batista's ROM includes a kernel.. you should therefore flash the ROM first, then CF-Root (so it overwrites the ROM kernel) and then the stock samsung-signed KG3 kernel
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Think CF-Root comes with CWM 4.0.0.2
Looks like Batista's ROM includes a kernel.. you should therefore flash the ROM first, then CF-Root (so it overwrites the ROM kernel) and then the stock samsung-signed KG3 kernel
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I did exactly that Just flashed the CF-Root kernel via the CWM app at the end to have all the goodies. Works a treat so far but I'll see over the coming weeks.
I've been doing this whole "reading" thing about flashing and all that, but some confusion is still there.
I have rooted my newly got SGS2 (i9100, UK).
Now what ? I'm looking at Darky's rom, but there are two files to flash separately: kernel (darkcore1.7) and ROM itself.
1. I was just wondering what is kernel in this situation ? Can i keep my current kernel, which was flashed by superoneclick(2.1.1) or do i absolutely need to flash darkcore ?
2. Same question applies to any other rom out there - can i use different kernel to the rom i may want to flash ? A lot of them come in sets (rom+kernel)
3. Another question - if i mess up kernel flash somehow, does that kill "download mode" of the phone (voldn+pwr)?
I have SGS1 flashed just another day, due to it being "expendable" now that i have SGS2, so jumped in and flashed it following instructions, but without solid understanding. Either stuff gets too complicated or i'm getting too old for this **** (I do have a background of messing with PCs, videogame consoles (ps1 era to ps3/360), winmo6 phones, gadgetry in general...engineer at heart )
You can use any kernel with any ROM. And no I don't think your Download Mode will be gone if you mess up a Kernel.
Kernel don't come in sets. You can choose your favorite there. See Dev section for more details.
Regards.
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
sliex said:
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
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Rom>>That depends upon the instructions as always in the rom you choose for a custom rom .
Kernel is flashed via Odin Via CWM app or via CWM recovery .
Kernel is the core of the system between hardware and operating .
jje
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
Rjmcgauley said:
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
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Stock kernels will not work with cyanogenmod. There are no overclockable kernels available for it yet.
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Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Is it going to brick my phone?
Please help
xReal said:
Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Follow the instructions flash is either via Odin or CWM .
Is it going to brick my phone?
Not if its the correct kernel .
jje
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what does correct kernel mean? some kernel that has that same KG2 / kg3/ etc stuff with your stock kernel?
JJEgan said:
xReal said:
Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Follow the instructions flash is either via Odin or CWM .
Is it going to brick my phone?
Not if its the correct kernel .
jje
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How to know which kernel is correct?
As of now I am using Sensation rom which has Siyah kernel 2.5.2 and I want to flash speedmod kernel or N.E.A.K. Kernel,
N.E.A.K. Kernel only supports sammy roms
I tried to search but I could not find out if Sensation rom is aosp or sammy do you have any idea of it?
also does speedmod kernel support both as nothing it written about it on its thread
Thanks
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xReal said:
How to know which kernel is correct?
As of now I am using Sensation rom which has Siyah kernel 2.5.2 and I want to flash speedmod kernel or N.E.A.K. Kernel,
N.E.A.K. Kernel only supports sammy roms
I tried to search but I could not find out if Sensation rom is aosp or sammy do you have any idea of it?
also does speedmod kernel support both as nothing it written about it on its thread
Thanks
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Normally on the first page of a rom thread you will get a description what is the rom. For example MIUI is well MIUI. Hyperdroid is sammy deodex rom with of course modifications and tweaks in the build to make it better than stock.
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not. Siyah works basically with any rom. CM7 to AOSP to sammy deodex. Regarding Simone's kernel which is the NEAK version or something like that it is based on only sammy stock deodex roms and that is mainly the ones in original development and android..just look out for deodex, sammy and stock rom
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post .
Plus if it does not work flash another one .
the Neak kernel should be ok been on mine for a few days .
Speedmod likewise ok have used it before .
jje
Thanks everyone for their wonderful help!
I have got one last question
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
does this means it will not work with sensation rom?
Edit: ok looks like the different versions are just the updated ones
But still the question is if it supports sensation rom?
xReal said:
Thanks everyone for their wonderful help!
I have got one last question
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
does this means it will not work with sensation rom?
Edit: ok looks like the different versions are just the updated ones
But still the question is if it supports sensation rom?
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DroidTrix said:
Normally on the first page of a rom thread you will get a description what is the rom. For example MIUI is well MIUI. Hyperdroid is sammy deodex rom with of course modifications and tweaks in the build to make it better than stock.
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not. Siyah works basically with any rom. CM7 to AOSP to sammy deodex. Regarding Simone's kernel which is the NEAK version or something like that it is based on only sammy stock deodex roms and that is mainly the ones in original development and android..just look out for deodex, sammy and stock rom
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JJEgan said:
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post .
Plus if it does not work flash another one .
the Neak kernel should be ok been on mine for a few days .
Speedmod likewise ok have used it before .
jje
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Dude. Did you even read these two responses from DroidTrix and JJEgan?
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Dude. Did you even read these two responses from DroidTrix and JJEgan?
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Yes indeed I have.
Am I missing anything?
Please elaborate your reply
Also please keep in mind that I have no experience of this so It might be a bit difficult for me to understand
xReal said:
Yes indeed I have.
Am I missing anything?
Please elaborate your reply
Also please keep in mind that I have no experience of this so It might be a bit difficult for me to understand
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*sigh*
Ok.
DroidTrix said:
DroidTrix said:
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not.
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"Sammy deodex" means that the the ROM is based on Samsung stock.
DroidTrix ALSO said:
DroidTrix said:
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not.
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AND, JJEgan said:
JJEgan said:
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post.
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You yourself said:
xReal said:
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
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Now, if you look at the VERY FIRST page for SensatioN ROM,, it says:
SensatioN ROM Features:
-Based on Samsung Firmware XWKK5 Android 2.3.6
With all of this information, you should be able to deduce that the Speedmod kernel WILL work with your ROM. If you still don't understand, I'm going to suggest you don't flash anything to your phone, for fear of ending up with a paperweight.
Ok this time I understand everything
I didn't knew that Sammy roms means that the ROM is based on Samsung's stock ROM
Also I thought that speedmod only works on stock ROM so all this things got me confused
But anyways now its all clear
xReal said:
Ok this time I understand everything
I didn't knew that Sammy roms means that the ROM is based on Samsung's stock ROM
Also I thought that speedmod only works on stock ROM so all this things got me confused
But anyways now its all clear
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Sammy is short for Samsung.
Hi,
I have two questions regarding the Android Kitchen, I would like to use my stock ROM and Stock Kernel and say take out some apps i don't want etc and add a few more.
So once i finish creating this rom and flashing it to my GS2, will this increase my binary counter? As I m not tinkering with Stock Kernel but the rom itself, I think it shouldn't but would like someone here to confirm this please?
Second question is can i just add say siyah's kernel with stock rom and build a new rom to flash on GS2, will that work that easily?
Thanks
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Second question is can i just add say siyah's kernel with stock rom and build a new rom to flash on GS2, will that work that easily?
If you mean flash siyah kernel to stock rom yes but it will increase rom counter .
Checkout Mobile Odin as well .
jje
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jje thanks for your reply,
What I meant was if I bind a siyah's kernel with a stock ROM inside the kitchen before flashing will that be easy or not?
JJEgan said:
Second question is can i just add say siyah's kernel with stock rom and build a new rom to flash on GS2, will that work that easily?
If you mean flash siyah kernel to stock rom yes but it will increase rom counter .
Checkout Mobile Odin as well .
jje
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Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
:angel:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
root
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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hallo im also new to rooting but flashed cm10.1 yesterday with root and can share what i did.
i also got i9300 nordic version of the s3. and downloaded some files
odin 3.07
cfroot 3.64
cm10.1
gapps from 03-2013
i resettet my phone and enabled USB debugging and put the phone in download mode and startet up odin and made sure its connected and loaded cfroot.tar and flashed and the phone rebootet itself and installed the ness. apps for rooting. then i bootet up in recovery manager and went to install from sdcard and installed cm10.1 and then gapps and then did factory reset and dalvik wipe and rebootet and it bootet up CM10.1 and deleted /0 folder on the phone which was empty folder from previous touchwiz samsung rom
and yes there are risks but i did this 2 times. tw to cm10 and then back again but everything went problem free. so the risk ppl are talking about is mostly likely cuz some broke and if u mess up it breaks. so it can happen.
q1; when u flash cfroot the bootloader changed and it changes counter from 0 to 1.
q2: when u flash stock back with odin it flashes rom and bootloader/recovery but counter is the same but can be fixed easily. ( did it myself between my 2 flashes so when i flashed back to CM10 it still was on 1
q3: i think its everything thats risky. dont think root and rom flashing are more risky than others
q4: dont know what u mean exactly. i didnt mess with kernals. CM10.1 has a good one i think.
q5: dont either
q6: i dont have any yelly triagle on my cfroot+cm10.1. theres a lille read thing in the left corner like 2mm long that shows u got flashed.
hope it helps.
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
TimGrundy2012 said:
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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Unless you have 4.1.1 + bootloader.
mikep99 said:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
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Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
eatsleep said:
Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
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For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Any flashing involves risk from almost no risk to a much bigger risk for those that dont read the basics and follow instructions .
Root voids warranty .
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
yes and yes .
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
NO read the basic faqs and guides all stickied .
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
YES
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
IT is inside the rom .
I suggest you bother to read the faqs and guides or join the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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1. You can flash boooader separately or when you flash stock roms. (I can be wrong but this is what I know)
2. I never done that but yes for first two, not sure about flash counter, you may still have to clear them with TA first.
3. As above answer, it's always risky to do stuff without proper knowledge and no guarantees even after proper knowledge but mostly no.
4. Yes.
5. Kernels are essential part of your phone and they are compatible with your os version only and also ur phone model. So if a kernel is for s3 4.2.2, you can't flash it over to amy other model or os version. Yes for second part.
6. No. Triangle away may remove your flashing counter but as long as you have custom anything and your rom status is modified that triangle will be there.
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chrismast said:
For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
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look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Siyah supports both cm and stock. Yes, you cam flash cm over stock or siyah kernel.
You have to flash your kernel again after every rom flash.
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eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
chrismast said:
As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
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Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
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bootloader no clue, I never touched it, too dangerous to mess up stuff.
for flashing googy, usually you do it in CWM or via Odin. Check out the thread and read the instructions. Syiah's thread also got a huge amount of guides in the first couple of posts and they should be valid somehow for Googy as well as it is based on Siyah.
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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Please do not start messing with bootloaders .
Logic says read the instructions for the kernel you want to flash .
Its a CWM file and flashed via recovery .
You really should bother yourself to read the basic faqs and guide .
jje
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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The bootloader isn't modified. The bootloader *shows* modified by reading other data.
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