Hi,
I have two questions regarding the Android Kitchen, I would like to use my stock ROM and Stock Kernel and say take out some apps i don't want etc and add a few more.
So once i finish creating this rom and flashing it to my GS2, will this increase my binary counter? As I m not tinkering with Stock Kernel but the rom itself, I think it shouldn't but would like someone here to confirm this please?
Second question is can i just add say siyah's kernel with stock rom and build a new rom to flash on GS2, will that work that easily?
Thanks
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Second question is can i just add say siyah's kernel with stock rom and build a new rom to flash on GS2, will that work that easily?
If you mean flash siyah kernel to stock rom yes but it will increase rom counter .
Checkout Mobile Odin as well .
jje
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jje thanks for your reply,
What I meant was if I bind a siyah's kernel with a stock ROM inside the kitchen before flashing will that be easy or not?
JJEgan said:
Second question is can i just add say siyah's kernel with stock rom and build a new rom to flash on GS2, will that work that easily?
If you mean flash siyah kernel to stock rom yes but it will increase rom counter .
Checkout Mobile Odin as well .
jje
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I've been doing this whole "reading" thing about flashing and all that, but some confusion is still there.
I have rooted my newly got SGS2 (i9100, UK).
Now what ? I'm looking at Darky's rom, but there are two files to flash separately: kernel (darkcore1.7) and ROM itself.
1. I was just wondering what is kernel in this situation ? Can i keep my current kernel, which was flashed by superoneclick(2.1.1) or do i absolutely need to flash darkcore ?
2. Same question applies to any other rom out there - can i use different kernel to the rom i may want to flash ? A lot of them come in sets (rom+kernel)
3. Another question - if i mess up kernel flash somehow, does that kill "download mode" of the phone (voldn+pwr)?
I have SGS1 flashed just another day, due to it being "expendable" now that i have SGS2, so jumped in and flashed it following instructions, but without solid understanding. Either stuff gets too complicated or i'm getting too old for this **** (I do have a background of messing with PCs, videogame consoles (ps1 era to ps3/360), winmo6 phones, gadgetry in general...engineer at heart )
You can use any kernel with any ROM. And no I don't think your Download Mode will be gone if you mess up a Kernel.
Kernel don't come in sets. You can choose your favorite there. See Dev section for more details.
Regards.
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
sliex said:
Correction: SuperCore, not darkcore...
Can i use cwm app (v2.0)to flash any kernels ? Or does it have to be odin ?
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Rom>>That depends upon the instructions as always in the rom you choose for a custom rom .
Kernel is flashed via Odin Via CWM app or via CWM recovery .
Kernel is the core of the system between hardware and operating .
jje
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
Rjmcgauley said:
Ok, so saying that, What stock Kernel can I use for Cyanogenmod7 ROM?
I was using "XWKE7" previously.
The ZIP file that i downloaded actually replaced my kernel with its own.
I'm asking this as I wanna use Tegrak overclock which is only compatible with stock kernels.
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Stock kernels will not work with cyanogenmod. There are no overclockable kernels available for it yet.
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I just got the sgs2 from amazon, I checked the baseband and kernel, which says that I have UHKG7 (firmware) and UHKG4 (baseband).
I know this corresponds to the UH_MUL_KG7 version when I do the CF-Root. However, I was looking through the custom rom's section and most of the ROM's seem to be built off of "KI3"
Does this mean I should flash the KI3 version of CF-Root instead of the KG7 one? I want to be able to play around and try a bunch of custom rom's later. does it matter which CF-Root I flash at this point or do I HAVE to have the KI3 CF-Root to be able to flash the KI3-based custom roms?
Also, would flashing the KI3-based stuff mess up my phone?
Not new to flashing custom roms but I've never had a phone with this many kernel options/versions. Any help is appreciated guys, thanks.
zeotrope said:
I just got the sgs2 from amazon, I checked the baseband and kernel, which says that I have UHKG7 (firmware) and UHKG4 (baseband).
I know this corresponds to the UH_MUL_KG7 version when I do the CF-Root. However, I was looking through the custom rom's section and most of the ROM's seem to be built off of "KI3"
Does this mean I should flash the KI3 version of CF-Root instead of the KG7 one? I want to be able to play around and try a bunch of custom rom's later. does it matter which CF-Root I flash at this point or do I HAVE to have the KI3 CF-Root to be able to flash the KI3-based custom roms?
Also, would flashing the KI3-based stuff mess up my phone?
Not new to flashing custom roms but I've never had a phone with this many kernel options/versions. Any help is appreciated guys, thanks.
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It would make more sense to flash KI3 stock firmware root with KI3 followed by custom rom of choice .
jje
JJEgan said:
It would make more sense to flash KI3 stock firmware root with KI3 followed by custom rom of choice .
jje
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thanks for the reply. if i switch to ki3 stock firmware should everything (theoretically) work properly?
zeotrope said:
thanks for the reply. if i switch to ki3 stock firmware should everything (theoretically) work properly?
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Yes all should work .
jje
JJEgan said:
Yes all should work .
jje
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OK, sorry for being so dense but one more question.
Say I go that way and flash KI3 stock then CF-Root for KI3....
then i flash a custom ROM, am I limited to custom roms that only work with KI3 kernel?
in other words, do i have to keep switching to different stock kernels as I try different custom roms?
zeotrope said:
OK, sorry for being so dense but one more question.
Say I go that way and flash KI3 stock then CF-Root for KI3....
then i flash a custom ROM, am I limited to custom roms that only work with KI3 kernel?
in other words, do i have to keep switching to different stock kernels as I try different custom roms?
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Usually when you flahs a custom rom it comes with it´s own kernel so you dont have to worry. If the rom doesn´t come with it´s own kernel you may be able to use it with any kernel (few exceptions)
rj.camargo said:
Usually when you flahs a custom rom it comes with it´s own kernel so you dont have to worry. If the rom doesn´t come with it´s own kernel you may be able to use it with any kernel (few exceptions)
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awesome, do i have to worry about the custom rom overwriting the CWM from cf-root?
Cwm is built into the kernel in samsung land, and most custom roms come with a kernel with Cwm.
Kernel version should be the same as rom version for stock roms/cf root. Custom roms often come with a recommended kernel.
You can move between newer and older stock roms via odin or restoring cwm backup, generally without wipe.
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Can I change my kernel while using the stock rom, or i need first to use custom rom?
I want to use this kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
But i cant find instructions on how to install this to my device...
And most important question - if i want to restore to stock kernel how do I do it?
ohad156 said:
Can I change my kernel while using the stock rom, or i need first to use custom rom?
I want to use this kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
But i cant find instructions on how to install this to my device...
And most important question - if i want to restore to stock kernel how do I do it?
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Yes you can and you simply flash via Odin restore is by flashing a stock rom via Odin .
But as you fail to see the instructions in the kernel post you linked read the thread before breaking your phone .
jje
JJEgan said:
Yes you can and you simply flash via Odin restore is by flashing a stock rom via Odin .
But as you fail to see the instructions in the kernel post you linked read the thread before breaking your phone .
jje
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Lets say i flash siyah kernel now... and tomorrow i want to flash Omega rom - i will lose the siyah kernel to the stock kernel?
You get whatever kernel is in the rom you flash .
Repeat i don't advise flashing for those that fail to understand the very basics and have not even bothered to read the guides and FAQS stickied .
#Its a very very expensive brick you may end up with #
jje
ok i got another question...
lets say i rooted the device then installed a few mods on my stock rom
then if i install a custom rom will all the mods be removed?
ohad156 said:
ok i got another question...
lets say i rooted the device then installed a few mods on my stock rom
then if i install a custom rom will all the mods be removed?
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Obviously..whatever mods you have installed will be overwritten by the files you will flash...
Let us say for example..you are a dude wearing very colorful clothes and are sitting on a chair..now your elder brother comes in the room and wants to have the chair..so he kicks your a** and sits on the chair...see...now replace the chair with the Phone...yourself with the MOD and your elder brother with the new ROM....
Wasn't this easy!!!!
that means when i flash stock rom to my device i will also remove all mods, set the original kernel and original rom?
ohad156 said:
that means when i flash stock rom to my device i will also remove all mods, set the original kernel and original rom?
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Yes
installing this kernel on stock rom should improve battery life?
ohad156 said:
installing this kernel on stock rom should improve battery life?
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Now that is a question I can't answer..so try it out yourselves and enjoy if it help otherwise revert back using nandroid..
usually people who install this kernel enjoy better battery life?
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
:angel:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
root
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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hallo im also new to rooting but flashed cm10.1 yesterday with root and can share what i did.
i also got i9300 nordic version of the s3. and downloaded some files
odin 3.07
cfroot 3.64
cm10.1
gapps from 03-2013
i resettet my phone and enabled USB debugging and put the phone in download mode and startet up odin and made sure its connected and loaded cfroot.tar and flashed and the phone rebootet itself and installed the ness. apps for rooting. then i bootet up in recovery manager and went to install from sdcard and installed cm10.1 and then gapps and then did factory reset and dalvik wipe and rebootet and it bootet up CM10.1 and deleted /0 folder on the phone which was empty folder from previous touchwiz samsung rom
and yes there are risks but i did this 2 times. tw to cm10 and then back again but everything went problem free. so the risk ppl are talking about is mostly likely cuz some broke and if u mess up it breaks. so it can happen.
q1; when u flash cfroot the bootloader changed and it changes counter from 0 to 1.
q2: when u flash stock back with odin it flashes rom and bootloader/recovery but counter is the same but can be fixed easily. ( did it myself between my 2 flashes so when i flashed back to CM10 it still was on 1
q3: i think its everything thats risky. dont think root and rom flashing are more risky than others
q4: dont know what u mean exactly. i didnt mess with kernals. CM10.1 has a good one i think.
q5: dont either
q6: i dont have any yelly triagle on my cfroot+cm10.1. theres a lille read thing in the left corner like 2mm long that shows u got flashed.
hope it helps.
q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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q6 = Triangle Away https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
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Unless you have 4.1.1 + bootloader.
mikep99 said:
start by reading rootSU's guide - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362743
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Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
eatsleep said:
Useful info, read it all but still answers are not obtained
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
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For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Any flashing involves risk from almost no risk to a much bigger risk for those that dont read the basics and follow instructions .
Root voids warranty .
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
yes and yes .
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
NO read the basic faqs and guides all stickied .
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
YES
and also i need a kernal for both AOSP and Samsung roms which i can't find
IT is inside the rom .
I suggest you bother to read the faqs and guides or join the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
eatsleep said:
Wish i posted the thread in the right place.
I have gt-i9300 and want to root it.
Here are some questions=
Q1. In which process of flashing i am modifying my bootloader? (while flashing cwm, kernal etc..)
Q2. When i flash stock ROM through Odin, do i restore the kernal, recovery and the flash counter?
Q.3 Is flashing a ROM after root is a risky thing?
Q.4 Can I flash a rom directly after rooting and flashing CWM? (without changing kernal?)
Q5. What is kernal compatibility? like some kernals are JB only. And does every ROM contains it's own kernal?
Q6. Is there a way to root and get cwm without getting the stupid yellow triangle?
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1. You can flash boooader separately or when you flash stock roms. (I can be wrong but this is what I know)
2. I never done that but yes for first two, not sure about flash counter, you may still have to clear them with TA first.
3. As above answer, it's always risky to do stuff without proper knowledge and no guarantees even after proper knowledge but mostly no.
4. Yes.
5. Kernels are essential part of your phone and they are compatible with your os version only and also ur phone model. So if a kernel is for s3 4.2.2, you can't flash it over to amy other model or os version. Yes for second part.
6. No. Triangle away may remove your flashing counter but as long as you have custom anything and your rom status is modified that triangle will be there.
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chrismast said:
For kernels that support both go here or here. At the moment Siyah or Goggy Max are the people's choices I assume.
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look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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Siyah supports both cm and stock. Yes, you cam flash cm over stock or siyah kernel.
You have to flash your kernel again after every rom flash.
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eatsleep said:
look, the question i am trying to ask is that can i flash aokp Rom over Siyah's kernal ( siyah's kernal is samsung kernal) what will happen?
Will i Brick my phone?
And if every ROM has it's own kernal so every new rom will replace my old kernal??
How to keep my prev kernal?
Thanks in advance :highfive:
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As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
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As long as the rom comes with a kernel, which is the normal base, you have to flash the kernel again. Usually you can do this direct from recovery before the full reboot.
As long as the kernel supports your rom type (see each kernel's thread for it), you should be fine as long as you follow the instructions.
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Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
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bootloader no clue, I never touched it, too dangerous to mess up stuff.
for flashing googy, usually you do it in CWM or via Odin. Check out the thread and read the instructions. Syiah's thread also got a huge amount of guides in the first couple of posts and they should be valid somehow for Googy as well as it is based on Siyah.
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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Please do not start messing with bootloaders .
Logic says read the instructions for the kernel you want to flash .
Its a CWM file and flashed via recovery .
You really should bother yourself to read the basic faqs and guide .
jje
eatsleep said:
Okay, probably the last post.
How to flash googy max kernal on galaxy s3 i9300?
Can i flash any 4.1.2 rom (aosp like miui or aokp etc) on googy max,
and in which process is the bootloader modified?
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The bootloader isn't modified. The bootloader *shows* modified by reading other data.
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Hi.
I have a quick question regarding loading a custom ROM onto my i9300. Do I have to load a new kernel with the ROM or can I use the stock 4.1.2 kernel that came with the device?
Thanks
Wihan said:
Hi.
I have a quick question regarding loading a custom ROM onto my i9300. Do I have to load a new kernel with the ROM or can I use the stock 4.1.2 kernel that came with the device?
Thanks
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Any either depending open kernel/ firmware version of custom rom .
Read the faqs and guides before messing your phone .
jje
Wihan said:
Hi.
I have a quick question regarding loading a custom ROM onto my i9300. Do I have to load a new kernel with the ROM or can I use the stock 4.1.2 kernel that came with the device?
Thanks
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Not really as long as the custom rom you'll be using is based on 4.1.2 you can either use a stock kernel or a custom one. However most custom rom developers recommend a custom kernel to be used since it provides better customization.