I know this topic has popped up a few times but, none of them really seam to answer the questions.
So, how hot is too HOT?
Just web browsing today, with WiFi and GPS off, the CPU temp got to 144F, and battery was at about 115F. Is this normal?
Another time, when I was using the GPS navigation for approximately 1hr it got even hotter than that, it was seriously HOT to the touch, not just warm.
At idle, no activity for an hour, with WiFi, Screen, & GPS off, I get temps of CPU: 110F, and Batt: 95F.
The phone is still within the 30day warranty from AT&T so I just want a definitive answer if this is normal or not before I try and get it replaced.
TIA!!
nuahs007 said:
I know this topic has popped up a few times but, none of them really seam to answer the questions.
So, how hot is too HOT?
Just web browsing today, with WiFi and GPS off, the CPU temp got to 144F, and battery was at about 115F. Is this normal?
Another time, when I was using the GPS navigation for approximately 1hr it got even hotter than that, it was seriously HOT to the touch, not just warm.
At idle, no activity for an hour, with WiFi, Screen, & GPS off, I get temps of CPU: 110F, and Batt: 95F.
The phone is still within the 30day warranty from AT&T so I just want a definitive answer if this is normal or not before I try and get it replaced.
TIA!!
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Are you overclocking? I'm using faux's 1.3 GHz kernel and I sit at idle temps of 30-35 celsius and when I game I get up to 50-60 celsius. Our processors are rated for up to 160 fahrenheit I believe. As long as you aren't breaking 60 celsius I'd say your fine.
Your battery is running perfectly fine though. Just remember, or phones don't dissipate heat like a computer would. The fact we have two cores is going to make our phones run pretty hot
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Thanks for the input Al!
I do have faux's 1.3 GHz kernel as well, and have a profile to have it clock down to 1.0GHz when the temp hits 60 celsius.
I just disabled the profiles in SetCPU to keep the OC at 1.3GHz, enabled WiFi, GPS, opened google maps, and launched Air Attach HD – played for approximately 20 min and saw a CPU temp of about 62-63 celsius.
At idle I usually don't ever see CPU temps below 40 celsius.
So it looks like from what your saying this should be about right?
I know I've gotten hotter than this before, but it may have been mostly battery temp as I was using Google Navigate, which eats the battery fairly quickly.
I'm use to the PC world, so I know what to look for; however, over-clocking mobile devices is completely new to me.
I've been trying to find the thermal specs for the Tegra 2 chipset, and can't seem to find them anywhere, but if your saying it's 160F, than I think I'm good.
I noticed too that my phone is getting hot with oc'ed to 1.3 and a gingerbread rom, with gps on.. Also my gps navigator sometimes closes by its own..
Froyo roms, without custom kernel, was just fine, faster and more stable than any gb rom.. And WAY MUCH BETTER battery life.. I missed froyo days..
Upgrading to Gingerbread, wasnt really an upgrade.. Was a downgrade..
i hope CM, solve those issues..
So i patiently wait for the next CM release, cause i got used to fingerprint scanner ..
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I was playing Crusade of Destiny (full scale 3D single play RPG) while charging my phone and noticed the phone was feeling really really hot.
My phone is on Bionix 1.9.1 (OC/UV/VooDoo) and I used SetCPU to OC it to 1.2ghz.
Being me, I didn't want to melt my phone so I stopped playing and used SetCPU to check my battery temperate- low and behold, it was a little over 122°F. I went ahead and cooled the phone down asap by putting it in the freezer for a good minute or so and temperature went back down to 98°F.
My question is, at what limit should the temperature be at to insure myself that the phone will be okay?
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I was playing Crusade of Destiny (full scale 3D single play RPG) while charging my phone and noticed the phone was feeling really really hot.
My phone is on Bionix 1.9.1 (OC/UV/VooDoo) and I used SetCPU to OC it to 1.2ghz.
Being me, I didn't want to melt my phone so I stopped playing and used SetCPU to check my battery temperate- low and behold, it was a little over 122°F. I went ahead and cooled the phone down asap by putting it in the freezer for a good minute or so and temperature went back down to 98°F.
My question is, at what limit should the temperature be at to insure myself that the phone will be okay?
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I set up a profile on SetCPU so if my phone reaches ~120F it give me an audible warning and clocks it down to 800 max. I know some ppl have had problems with profiles, however, they work just fine for me. I have heard that the Vibrant will start getting screwy around 125F, so best to keep it under that.
Ah, didn't know I could set an audible warning with SetCPU.
Wow I was closing to screwing up my phone then. Scary.
A lot of people report it heating up like that when charging and using the phone at the same time. If it ever got that high, I think its common sense to stop playing or maybe close what your doing (3d games or something heavy on the processor) I personally never got past 120 F...
I'd at the very least not OC. That game runs well with the stock kernel and no lagfix
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I went ahead and cooled the phone down asap by putting it in the freezer for a good minute or so and temperature went back down to 98°F.
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I would strongly suggest NOT putting your phone in the freezer. ESPECIALLY when its running hot. Sudden temperature changes tend to crack electronics.
If you're worried, unplug it from the charger and turn it off. Maybe take the battery out (carefully).
- Nick
that's hot. my phone never gets past 110 when charging.
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I'm running 2.1 w/ one-click root and one click lag fix. I uninstalled ATK for the stock task manager set to strict, and I usually have wifi and gps. Ever since rooting and teh lag fix my battery has been hot battery is draining very quickly. Next thought is to just make the jump to 2.2. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
When I flashed to Project Core kernal 1.2 and severe heat problems. Especially when overclocked passed 1 ghz you're gonna have heat issues. I don't really use my phone as it charges and i kill tasks that are not in use. Currently I'm using project core kernal v1 1ghz and its working great for me.
Over the past month and a half that I have had an atrix I have noticed that my atrix has burnt me several times. I have it in my pocket and it just gets really hot. It doesnt seem to be the battery as the entire phone is very hot. This has been happening even before I rooted my phone. It burns me through the otter box. Im reluctant to take this back to at&t as i would have to unroot it. Are other people having this issue?
If its ridiculously hot, as it seems it is, thats not normal and you should return it ASAP. Also rooting would not affect heat output in any way.
One, wrong section.
Check a taskmanager when it starts running hot. Find out what is pulling so much processor load to create the heat.
I had this problem, took it back for replacement, then had the same problem on the new device. It turned out it was the Exchange sync causing the Motorola.services process to run constantly and kill the battery.
I solved it by changing the Exchange sync from push to every 15 minutes. I also do not use any sync with Google (mail, contacts, or calendar). My battery life is unbelievable now and the device stays cool 90% of the time.
Wasn't crossposting restricted in this forum?
Ha. Excessive heat. Buddy at least your phone doesn't have a aluminum battery door. Try touching that when your phone is being overclocked @ 1.5 ghz.
But essentially something that is syncing often is causing your phone to use the radio alot. And since its in your pocket there really isn't any airflow to cool it down hense the phone will generate heat.
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Hi all!
I hope my post will help other people like myself that ware looking for information regarding this issue:
I installed TempMonitor and followed the teperateure of the device. There are 2 temperatures to measure: CPU and battery.
I will elaborate my findings:
1. CPU temp at rest without sync (push mail turned off) is 28-31C after a while (depends on the room temp).
In slight effort the CPU temp can get close to 50C but normaly is ~40-45C
It seems like the CPU temp is not that important and only when the CPU is running hot for ~10 minutes you feel the heat and it starts to get annoying. Notice that in this point a lot of battery juice is drawn.
2. Battery temp is also ~28C at rest. It gets up to 35C on ongoing effort. Since it is very large (1920mAh), you will feel the heat. I think that the battery is the main heat factor in the device and the CPU and graphic engine running in addition to the battery getting hot will cause the entire device to feel warm or even hot.
3. I noticed that at the beginning, one corner of the device (lower right) got REALLY hot and REALLY annoying at times. After 2 weeks, the heat spread became more bearable. I think it has something to do with the battery "setteling in".
4. Running apps that constantly check for updates and even push gmail, will cause your phone to run 1-2 degrees hotter and the more apps you add the hotter the phone will get at the resting state. Hence, when starting other apps it will get hotter and faster. even PowerControlPlus which is a very simple widget gets the deviec ~1 degree hotter on idle.
5. As the battery gets drained, it emits more heat. Try to charge your phones and not run battery draining apps when the battery is less than 30% or even 40% full.
I will comfort you all by telling you that I have a few friends with Galaxy S and Vibrants and their devices get hot too. A bit less on normal use like browsing but pretty much the same on 3D games and such.
I hope I helped because I was really frustrated by it for the first 2 weeks. I hope it will keep improving. I also purchased a case and hopefully it will help with the heat spreading around the phone - will update.
Please install Watchdog from the market to check if a process is acting crazy.
In my case it was 'Android media process' which ate 50% of all the processing power. There was not much of a performance drop since it occupied just one core.
Anyway Watchdog will give you an alert in case a process exceeds a certain percentage and from there you can google the problem or uninstall the app which is causing problems.
My Atrix 4G displayed a temperature of 37 degrees celsius. The highest till now I have seen. Could be higher though.
Its a dual core processor stop worrying about heat unless its hotter then 50c
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My Atrix has reached temperatures of 70 Degrees Celcius...
@OP: I think ur safe.
how you turn off the push email? someone can indicate your configuration? thx
http://goo.gl/OtRa1
When watching youtube I reach 42 degrees celcius in the battery and it literally burns my hand. Would maybe return it if I hadn't ordered it from Canada.
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Ha. Excessive heat. Buddy at least your phone doesn't have a aluminum battery door. Try touching that when your phone is being overclocked @ 1.5 ghz.
But essentially something that is syncing often is causing your phone to use the radio alot. And since its in your pocket there really isn't any airflow to cool it down hense the phone will generate heat.
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thats because aluminium is a conducter which will let the heat out. plastic keeps it in. so if its hot i wonder why? xD
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thats because aluminium is a conducter which will let the heat out. plastic keeps it in. so if its hot i wonder why? xD
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[email protected] keeping it in. Who knew one just needed a gnat's-hair-thick sheet of plastic to insulate their house?
I'm having the same issue, but it's only coming from the bottom half of my atrix, and only since I installed a new LCD. I'm actually worried the heat will destroy my mem card and sim.
I've ordered a new LCD now, so hopefully that'll sort it out.
It's probably just apps constantly eating cpu. My problem is with the laptop dock though. The battery in it gets way too hot. It's the first piece of electronics I've had that actually made me reflex my hand away from the heat.
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I get constant 60 degrees while using...
I am a heavy user may go for hours at a time...Gaming mainly...
While heavy gaming I get aroud 75 to 80 degrees.. I bloody burns my hand to a point i cant even hold it anymore...!
Are you sure? 80 degree ? My PC only 72 degree.What have you done with your atrix
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I gotta say the newest version with the kernal is INSANE. I'm getting 6 hours of usage that drains 20% of battery at 1400 mhz. Of course brightness is at 1/3 but its nothing that bothers me.
So I'm wondering when making phone calls that's the #1 battery drain second to the display maybe even more.
IS there or will there be a kernal or rom that locks the phone at 245 mhz and prevent data / screen usage while on a phone call?
(This would truly help the thunderbolt considering the battery is HORRIBLE )
I'm on BAMF 1.7 stripped, and have not looked at CPU speed or anything overclock undervolt yet, and with an extended battery I stayed at 100% for 20 minutes this morning, and after 45 minutes of searching apps on wifi, have 98% left still! It's amazing!
Yesterday after work I had 75% left, and I did about 30 minutes of 4G surfing, and a couple hours of on and off wifi surfing. It took 3 hours to recharge last night connected to my computer, so it's possible the battery is being reported incorrectly. I'll just have to run it to death today to see!
I cannot answer your phone or display question as I have only used 7 minutes of phone in over 2 months, but my display is at 70% with a 1 minute timeout.
So far, I love this ROM!
Yea Its amazing how a rom and kernal can make a phone operate 200X's better than the actual phone developer themselves. Its kind of pathetic on HTC's side.
But can anyone confirm a rom/kernal that lowers cpu usage /display and data while in a call to save more battery?
Or entirely like crap if you mess something up. It's more about settings than anything else.
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Hello again dear xda members
I've been using S II for over 2 weeks now! I get the following(which many of you do get also). When I turn on WiFi and start surfing, the phone starts to overheat and battery is drained like a juice.
Well, after a long study, I've found out that it's the stock browser's fault!
Yeah! I opened WiFi, surfed a little and it started to heat up! Well, I was trying to download something, and since stock sucks at downloading( except if you add to it an app from the market called Downloadfiles) I opened DolphinHD!!
What I saw, or felt-whatever-, was just
After 5 minutes, the phone cooled down, temperature became normal and of course battery was less consumed!
So, to all people who have heat issues, it turns out(at least in my humble opinion) that it's the stock browser's fault!!!
Any thoughts anyone? Similar experiences?
I've been using it for 10 days and experienced no such overheating, but battery time should be much better.
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Really? It doesn't overheat never? even not when playing games?
I thought mine was faulty, but I went to couple of stores where they have it open for customers to play with, and I did the same as mine and it started to heat up!
Mine heats up a bit after playing a game or running a certain app for a while, but I never experience overheating with the stock browser. Though you should take in to consideration that the GS2 is a thin device, the CPU is close to your hands. Most phones also have to exessivly keep searching for connections because it is weak or something is blocking its way. The transmitting/receiving device is located at the top along with the CPU so it'll tend to get hot. Most smartphones do overall.
Also, the phone gets hotter while using it connected to a charger just because the battery is filling up the same time you are using it. Also, take in to consideration that no patch for true dualcore support has yet been released nor announced. Just some factors why the phone heats up.
thanks man!
Well, heating up is normal-as far as I read in here-... But when using Stock Browser, I'm talking about overheat! really! I believe it's a bug, since as said, nor Firefox, Dolphin and Skyfire(I use all of them) produce that issue! And I disabled flash content(thought that might make it better) but it was the same! Don't know!
Anyways, thanks for answering!
OVer wifi I have no problems. Over 3G is another story! and playing games is another story. It warms up every 5 minutes while playing games.
Yours too huh? well, mine does that on WiFi!
What is Overheating? How do you know it is overheating unless you know the temperature of the battery? Well OP and other posters who are saying the phone gets overheated please mention the temperature of it. The ambient temp of Europe/USA is 20-25°C Max, and if the device runs even cool then it will have temp around 30-32°C, that is much higher than the ambient temp and probably that's why you guys are feeling the phone is overheating but in fact it's not. Here in Calcutta, ambient is 32-33°C and the Phone temp in normal is the same, so we/I don't feel it's overheating, only when I surf net for an hour straight with charging then the temp rises up to 44-45°C, that's when it could be said that the phone is running on high temp, still for the hardware we are given 45°C is not hot.
So before saying the phone is overheating please check the battery temp.
Regards.
how do I measure battery temperature?
Ok, Battery life widget?
I'll measure then I'll let you know!
There is a reason stock browser uses more battery and heats more. It uses GPU to render pages more quickly! But for me even on stock it is not that hot, more than on other phones, but thats what you get for a thin phone.
Maybe somone will test battery life with stock+GPU and dolphin browser with no GPU. Maybe the difference is not that big at all, maybe just GPU heats more than CPU but uses same battery.
now let's not forget android doesn't have graphics acceleration, and without it the GPU has to work harder which generates more heat
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Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
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Ok, I get 41 to 45 °C degrees!
So, no overheat just heat!
So, based on what you're saying, this is normal?
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Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
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My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
Kostask11 said:
My ambient is 34 to 30 °C
Ok, so my phone is fine? Wow! !! thanks
that really made me happy!
I thought it was faulty
Thanks so much everyone for answering
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You are welcome. This is mine, phone is untouched for half an hour, my room temp is currently 28°C.
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I see! Then it's fine
thanks again! It's a big relief! I was coming from Omnia I and I was like wtf
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Your ambient is 27°C, right? So it's normal to me. Anything less than 50°C should be OK, imo.
Regards.
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Summer in Greece and sub-30-degrees Celsius don't go together.That's why we're hot!
Anyway,****ty joking aside,inside a bus today,under the sun with an ambient temperature of about 35-36 degrees(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal ) and with my GPU overclocked at 400MHz with 1100mV using tegrak overclock ultimate,I played some Angry Birds and,although the phone reported no more than 44 degrees,it was very hot at the top.
My opinion?If you(or me obviously) manage to somehow burn/fry something,make sure to do it so bad that it doesn't even respond to Chuck Norris' roundhouse kick! That way maybe Sammy won't notice...Shush!
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(dunno how you put the degrees symbol pal )
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Alt+0176.
Funny comment anyway.
I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
Yes, its a dual core phone so its to be expected.
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Yeah, mines gets warm too. Maybe try downloading SetCPU and limiting the processor's speed if you can't handle the heat
Anyways, its to be expected especially while running games or watching movies.
How hot is too hot? With fauxs newest kernel mine gets up to 70c
OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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What are normal temps?
Also is there an app which will let me see the temp which works in the stock firmware?
I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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I dropped back to the .7 kernel. My processor was getting way too hot at even 1.2 when under load. 70C+ is not good for any processor. Back to 1.1 for me.
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Plus those temps are like a hot knife going through butter on the battery life...
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OCd at 1.3 on idle is at 51 celcius. I think its acceptable
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51C at IDLE?! Mine is at 42C!
What OC you have shouldn't matter, as your phone doesn't run at maximum frequency with maximum voltage unless you are actively using it!
But to answer the OP's question, my phone gets pretty warm too. I just read the temperature after watching a 5 minute HD video, and it was at 67C. If you are using the cellular radio i'd imagine it can get even warmer.
That means the dualcore is doing its job
Using setcpu and CPU stress testing & quadrant benchmarking for almost 2 hours straight one day, mine never exceeded 60C.
I think the 1.3OC(v1.9) kernel is wonderful, I've hit 4.9k scores on quadrant standard. It seems to be more friendly with the combination of setcpu & CM7 also, the later kernels kind of crippled my setcpu profiles and would cause my launcher to FC(I suspect?)
Phone idles at 34C.. probably lower because screen off my max freq is 216mhz(AMAZING BATTERY LIFE) in fact, i usually keep my proc throttled down to about 400mhz and don't crank it up until i need it(again. AMAZING BATTERY LIFE)
honestly... at 400mhz the phone still quite snappy.
51c? unnaceptable.
mine runs at about 30c most of the time.
however i did notice a strange issue that the phone gets alot hotter after you charge it and then unplug the charger, a reboot usually fixes this. i make it a habit of rebooting immediately after unplugging the charger and my phone stays most of the day between 30-33c
this also helps the battery life a lot, i can usually get by the end of the day with 60 to 80 percent left.
If you change your oil every 5k miles and put air in the tires and keep your fluids topped off you should be to.... ummm wrong forum. I though this was the nascar forum.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Mine average on 58C to max at 62C.. Idles at 41C.. It's warm! I got used to it.
Has anyone considered the longevity of the phone and battery from the unit staying warm all the time?
Mine is pretty much warm the whole time it is in my hand when being used. Outside in the sun taking pictures even more so.
I don't think I have any runaway processes. After I restart the phone, I use a task killer to kill everything it boots up with initially. Everything which is needed, like about 4 things come right back up, so I excluded them. But I don't use to to autokill stuff. It's just when I boot up I noticed there are like 30 things started up for no reason being as I just turned off the phone.
I figured I know which ones need to be up cause they come right back up after being killed. But things like Google+, Maps, Gallery...etc...which I don't think need to be running at bootup I kill.
+1 on going back to 1.1... OC'd at 1.3 was killing battery and heating up like crazy! OC'd to 1.1 have no problem with UV, heat, and get 30+ hours battery life with moderate use.
It's not just the CPU/GPU usage what's heating up the Atrix...
That specific area of the Atrix contains CPU/GPU and also the GSM/3G/Wifi and Bluetooth radio chip, which can get really hot while broadcasting voice/data. Even if the radio is idle, if you are on a bad reception area it will be constantly searching for coverage and switching from 3G/4G to 2G, which creates heat and battery drain.
My .2 cents
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I was just curious if everyone's Atrix gets warm in the lower part of of the phone?
I've read on a few forums people just chalk it up the the dual core processor, but mine gets warm even if I'm doing something as simple as just reading Fox News. I don't know how that could be taxing the processor that much. I don't have much else running in memory which could be using a ton a resources.
Mine doesn't get hot, just pretty warm. I guess I am just suprised cause it's the only phone I've ever had that gets warm like that.
I tried our display model at work and it gets really warm also, so I guess exchanging my phone for another would probably amount to ending up with a new phone that does the same thing.
I was just wondering if it is common with everyone.
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It gets warm because Fox News sends messages directly from hell.
On a more serious note, mine gets warm if im playing games.
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When I go camping, if it rains I fire up galaxy on fire 2, and roast marshmallows with my phone. (Pillsbury dough boy giggle.)
I voided my warranty and your mum.