I just downloaded - using the Original LG Firmware tool - a new firmware for my german P500. The filename is V20E_00.kdz, i.e. the same as the open european firmware. However, these files are different:
V20E_00.kdz (open european firmware)
MD5: bbffd451cfeb662c13c75fe850415892
V20E_00.kdz (newest german firmware)
MD5: 154667c019b95160fddbbdaa5b769ac6
Anyone care to test this official german firmware? Hopefully the microphone bug and proximity sensor bug will have been remedied...
From a first test I can at least say that the alignment of the WIFI, GPS etc. icons has been fixed. So there is actually hope that the other bugs have been fixed as well...
i dont think so, LG doesnt spend a lot of time in old devices - they arent interested
in doing stupid things, better they produce a lot of new (****) devices, see the new flagship "Optimus SX" on "saturn" market ... 2 cameras on the back side, wow cool 3D
if they copying only the images like a hologram to each other and named it "3D"
all other hardware is like in all new phones if we read about cpu, ram or internal memory.
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i dont install lg software anymore, so it doesnt matter if version is V20A or V20Z - its
always the same ****^^
andy572 said:
i dont think so, LG doesnt spend a lot of time in old devices - they arent interested
in doing stupid things, better they produce a lot of new (****) devices, see the new flagship "Optimus SX" on "saturn" market ... 2 cameras on the back side, wow cool 3D
if they copying only the images like a hologram to each other and named it "3D"
all other hardware is like in all new phones if we read about cpu, ram or internal memory.
back to topic:
i dont install lg software anymore, so it doesnt matter if version is V20A or V20Z - its
always the same ****^^
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I agree
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Really guys...
I would lie in saying I'm particularly thrilled about LG's update policy. I'm certainly not.
However, that is not the point here! The precise question was if someone could contribute by testing the new firmware and indicating if the known bugs are still there or not. The icon alignment bug is not. And if the microphone bug and proximity sensor bug are gone as well, I would say that most people would call the new firmware o.k.
So please refrain from further "LG sucks" messages. If LG and the P500 are so bad, just don't use it, but leave people alone who are trying to improve the situation with the P500. Or maybe concentrate your energy by improving support for the Cyanogenmod for the P500... Many people would love to see an official CM for the Optimus One. Until then, I think I could do with a (mostly) bugfree 2.3.3 LG firmware.
In other words: such comments are not helping at all, and one could easily call them spam! So don't.
ok, i agree in one point:
P500 is only to old for industrial nations, in 3rd world countries the device is up to date
and they need support - i give support for these users, for me and my self: i learn
a lot about android on this device because its very simple hardware.
btw:
you thought LG fixes all bugs - i can not believe that, if they would do so they cant sale other new devices,
so they let a few bugs in old devices and peoples buys a new one ... its marketing, do you know something about it ?
recently i updated from v20b to v20c (india) and m regretting now.
phone has become way too laggy now.
it takes aprrox 2 mins to connect to mobile network
free space got reduced (now 157mb only even after factory reset)
while syncing gmail, fb, twitter it just hangs. ****ty lg. hate u.
i'll switch to andy's rom after he releases his bug fixed rom.
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ok, i agree in one point:
P500 is only to old for industrial nations, in 3rd world countries the device is up to date
and they need support - i give support for these users, for me and my self: i learn
a lot about android on this device because its very simple hardware.
btw:
you thought LG fixes all bugs - i can not believe that, if they would do so they cant sale other new devices,
so they let a few bugs in old devices and peoples buys a new one ... its marketing, do you know something about it ?
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Lots of ppl use the P500 that can upgrade to other LG high-end devices, if they dont give support to this device they will lost lots of users like with the Gw620 fiasco so they need to keep an eye in this terminal, thats also marketing.
And LG do fixed bugs in the V20G European firmware so stop spamming, if you don't like official firmware it's your problem man, theres no need to spam every v20 rom thread with idiotic comments.
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Looks like the update's been pushed back by a month
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/
But at least they list what the update will actually contain:
Xperia X10 mini and X10 mini pro:
Improved Bluetooth functionality with support for sending and receiving pictures, contacts and more
New backup and restore application with extended content back up
Automatic synchronization of your contact pictures between Facebook and your phone book
Improved ways of handling pictures, audio, text and numbers in your messages
Upgrade of the Android platform to Android platform 2.1
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I hope you can turn off the facebook photo syncing - I really don't want pictures of people's cats, babies and favourite movie stars as their contact pictures when I've already picked photos for them.
I am sad
Unbelievable.
The comments on the blog page are pretty funny though!
Hundreds of people crying about never buying a SE again
To be honest the 2.1 update doesn't really do much for these phones. However it is obvious that SE didn't give too much attention to the fact that using Android meant that their timeplans would be compared against those of many other Android licensors. Also I think they underestimated that a large part of the Android community is made of geeks. They are used to selling phones to people who don't even know what an operating system is.
In reality this delay means almost nothing but it's a PR disaster.
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Also I think they underestimated that a large part of the Android community is made of geeks.
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Totally agree with you !
lol - for undemanding users, Apple have sewn up that segment of smartphone users. Maybe RIM too. Symbian.. are they smartphones/will they be around much longer?
But Windows & Android require more maintenance. As a SE owner for the last 5? years, I can attest to their serial ability to miss deadlines.
However, this is new for them, the need to sew on their interface to a constantly evolving OS. So expect more missed deadlines, and slow adoption of 2.2
But I can't say I'm surprised...
I am not an Android expert but if that GUI stuff they have done is so difficult to port from 1.6 to 2.1 then they must have taken very poor decisions when developing the software. Look at the Android Market: 95% of the applications will run on any version from 1.6 to 2.2 without even the need to recompile the code.
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Also I think they underestimated that a large part of the Android community is made of geeks.
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Actually theres a few "geeks" in the SE JAVA community side as well, that like modding their phones so it looks like its an android (and thats just for starters )
Over here I still haven't got the previous update, 1.2-whatever, so I'm not holding my breath any way
Pfff
Pfff My unbranded HTC Hero had eclair (android 2.1) installed almost a year ago. And yes also HTC had official problems with release dates for 2.1.
I,m disappointed that SE also shifts up their 2.1 update. but the lack of custom Roms (think it's SE's popularity. Wil revert me back to HTC again as soon as I buy a new phone again.
Yes this is a big disappointment. When i compare my previous HTC Windows phone, the updates were quicker, and also the custom roms made things alot more interesting. I will be buying Android again, but not from SE.
the most of other android smartphone has already 2.1 or 2.2, in december gingerbread will be realesed and so SE 2.1 will be outdated..
SE really disappointed me..
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Yes this is a big disappointment. When i compare my previous HTC Windows phone, the updates were quicker, and also the custom roms made things alot more interesting. I will be buying Android again, but not from SE.
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Updates were quicker?? I had 2 WM phones, a Prophet and my current X1, and NO updates were forthcoming. I was saved only by the excellent work of the cooks here.
I like my X10 Mini even with 1.6.
It runs faster and is more stable than my Galaxy S with 2.1.
Maybe we are overcrying this release delay. Our phone is not unusable, other companies are delaying even more. I have seen in the blogs people crying like they have an non-usable phone. The only real problem is the Sim issue that in some countries they have adresses in some others not.
In reality our community want just to change firmware and this is why we are here in xda.
I am also annoyed, I am also willing to update my firmware every month...but for this we need the support of our chefs.
By the way i understand that a SW planning can deviate; in our company we have just postponed a release by one month.
I agree that the communication was bad, they could even have released an interim version for us the geek.
This is just MHO
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What features are you missing right now? I think the x10 can do all i need it too with 1.6.
Hello XDA community!
My account is new but I have viewed this forum up to 2 weeks by now. Also I'm a new owner of X10 mini. And I think it is almost great phone, nice camera, good video quality for little phone and I can make calls and sms. Compared to my old E51 this phone rocks! To me those 2.1's and 1.6's are just a numbers. I can do everything I want to do and I don't miss anything. No lag etc. I don't get why, just why are people flaming SE...Yes I know it was a mistake to promise something what they can't to. Well I'm also waiting for update, but I'm not so curious about it.
Maybe my english is not so good as it should be but I think that you understand my text.
Regards,
wiilweer
SE posting here above
I'm not from SE. I'm just regular phone user not a Android "geek". Got it ?
you having wrong phone in your hand.....Smart phone is not only for call,sms,camera..its more than that.
Bad news fellas - the LG Optimus One P500 is obviously going to be stuck to Froyo for the rest of its life. The device that is certainly one of the best bargains you can get for the holiday season, but despite being announced just a few weeks before Gingerbread was released, it won't get a chance to taste it.
It's not the first time a manufacturer has let down its users with OS updates. Besides it is probably more tolerable here, considering that the Optimus One is meant to rival high-end feature phones, rather than smartphone top-dogs. However what's most embarrassing is the way LG brought the news to its customers.
A post on the LG Facebook page states that the Optimus One P500 won't be updated because there's a 1GHz minimum requirement for Gingerbread. Makes total sense, right? They can't update it without fixing the hardware, which is impossible. Except that it's not true and there is no such Gingerbread requirement and that was confirmed by the Android guru Dan Morill.
We really hope it's a case of the guys maintaining the Facebook page being ill-informed or otherwise there's no explanation for the LG blatant lies.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_one_p500_wont_be_getting_gingerbread_update-news-2129.php
For me it's not a problem...if does everything good on froyo...
But I see a little "hope" of devs to get something "gingerbread" to work with P500 since there is no 1GHz minimum requirement
and is bull**** because there is no need 1Ghz gingerbread to run ...
Okay, there are no information from LG, everything else is a lie. I got an answer of the LG support and they told me, it isn't clear right now. So just wait and stay cool.
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Okay, there are no information from LG, everything else is a lie. I got an answer of the LG support and they told me, it isn't clear right now. So just wait and stay cool.
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Just got this a few days ago:
Received Date : 06/12/2010 21:26 22
The type of inquiry : Software/Hardware updates
Product/Model No. : /LGP500
Hi,I'd like to know if LG is planing on releasing Android Gingerbread 2.3 for the LG P500.
Thanks
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Dear Customer
Thank you for your email regarding the P500,
At the moment the only update available for any handset is the 2.1 firmware update. Sorry for inconvenience this may of caused you.
I hope this has been of some assistance to you.
Please do not hesitate in contacting us again should you require any further advice.
Best Regards,
LG Electronics UK Helpdesk
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LG Customer Services
UK: 0844 847 5454 Ireland: 081827 6954
Mon-Fri 9am to 8pm Sat 9am-6pm
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2.1? Optimus One runs on 2.2 from factory. So this guy seems to know nothing.
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2.1? Optimus One runs on 2.2 from factory. So this guy seems to know nothing.
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although I thinked as you before,I know realise that the guy has some reason,updates are only for 2.1,as there is no update for P500 he is correct...
sad but true, no official gingerbread for O1... there's an article on engadget about that.
sorry but the forum doesnt allow me to post the direct link
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sad but true, no official gingerbread for O1... there's an article on engadget about that.
sorry but the forum doesnt allow me to post the direct link
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Is engaged by LG? No it isn't. Thats no official Source. The only official source is LG and nothing more. And as soon they don't tell us anything about that, this is only speculation.
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Is engaged by LG? No it isn't. Thats no official Source. The only official source is LG and nothing more. And as soon they don't tell us anything about that, this is only speculation.
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well the account LG USA Mobile quoted on both engadget and gsmarena it's by LG... btw let's wait and hope to get 2.3 soon enough
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well the account LG USA Mobile quoted on both engadget and gsmarena it's by LG... btw let's wait and hope to get 2.3 soon enough
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To be honest, this LG-guy seems to me a little bit like he don't really know what is happening there. If he didn't know that Gingerbread don't require a 1Ghz CPU, I think that his comment should not be seen as an official statement.
/edit: And sorry for my bad english
after being on T-Mobile as long as I have, I'm used to things like this. If i ever want any updates, I have to ROOT and install a cooked version of the update. It happened on the Mytouch 3G, and it will most likely have to happen on my LGOT.
Lets focus on Cyanogen and the devs on here and on android central for the best info on 2.3 coming to the LG OO.
I reckon the downside of buying a full feature though budget Android phone is that you - realistically from a business perspective - can't expect the manufacturer to invest money to give you more than you paid for (which is an Android Froyo phone, nothing more, nothing less).
TL;DR: You get what you pay for.
What you may (realistically?) expect is that they allocate means to solve current critical firmware issues, if and when confirmed.
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Hopes from LG for a Gingerbread P500
Guys, just read a good news from Engadget: (sorry for not able to post link as i'm a newbie)
You might remember yesterday's brouhaha over LG's seemingly false claim that Android 2.3 Gingerbread requires a 1GHz processor or better, using it as a justification for keeping an official upgrade out of the hopes and dreams of Optimus One owners around the globe -- but the good news is that it appears to have been a misunderstanding. Here's the official statement from LG:
"LG released information prematurely regarding the minimum processor upgrade requirements for the LG Optimus. Google recently announced the Gingerbread platform and has not yet published the Gingerbread Compatibility Definition Document (CDD) or the public branch open source code. Once the CDD and the source code is public, LG will evaluate the upgradability of the Optimus Series. We apologize for any confusion or misunderstanding. We will alert you as soon as more information on this topic is available."
So they're taking responsibility for jumping the gun and have committed to "evaluating the upgradability" of the Optimus line once Google's published Gingerbread's official requirements and turned loose the source code. Of course, it's possible they'll ultimately find another reason for keeping the phones stuck on Froyo -- but for now, we've got a sliver of hope.
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Let's just hope LG will get us some good news soon!
let's be patient, will get the upgrade soon...c",?
Asuma06 said:
let's be patient, will get the upgrade soon...c",?
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Personally i'm not expecting anything from LG
I'll just hope for a firmware release that's going to fix rustle in the speaker and i'll be happy
look at this
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/lg-pulls-back-will-evaluate-upgrading-optimus-series-to-ginge/
this is a very interesting news
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this is a very interesting news
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Indeed, let's hope they change their mind and give us an upgrade to gingerbread
LG will upgrade all Optimus One smartphones currently using the Froyo OS to the next version of the Android OS, Gingerbread. Details of the upgrade schedule will be announced locally in due course. We sincerely apologize for the confusion and misunderstanding that was caused regarding this issue.
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"source coming from Androidguys.com"
which was quoted from LG website USA, you can check that out...
ok! now since O1 will have a big chance on getting gingerbread..
may i now ask if all the mods here will still be compatible for the fix, will it be in-tune with gingerbread?
tia
Gingerbread confirmed has posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867479
Closing....
http://www.facebook.com/LGItalia
The official LG Italy FB page just posted the following:
Ready to upgrade to Gingerbread? The new version of Android for mobile will be available from July for the holders of Optimus One. Some of the latest outing with upgraded graphics and features.
Among with the video of LG 01 with Gingerbread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y17GiSEpROI&feature=email
July??? FUUUUU...
XD
Damn it! I hope for end of May release.
Wel, at last we have the unofficial port of CyanogenMod 7
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Damn it! I hope for end of May release.
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Me too,why so lately?
lg sucks its just not happening they are delaying it too much to get official 2.3.3 ,who cares mik cm7 rules
Its a pitty, he didn´t show the kernel version in the video
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lg sucks its just not happening they are delaying it too much to get official 2.3.3 ,who cares mik cm7 rules
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What are you talking about? They never officially claimed it'd be out by May. This is the first official announcement since........ 4 months ago.
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What are you talking about? They never officially claimed it'd be out by May. This is the first official announcement since........ 4 months ago.
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Are you sure about that?
LOOK HERE
Guys did u notice one thing,..., the camera app has the same icon as froyo..?
same goes for gallery, phone book, calc, ... the list goes on...
Also, battery, signal, 3g...are all weird ... especially signal...its supposed to turn green when its connected to google servers, isn't it?
Are u sure this is the " ufficiale " Gingerbread ROM for Optimus One p500 ?
Somehow I don't think LG will post such a HUGE RELEASE in such a small manner - video - that only a few come to know about ( initially )....( just thinking out aloud )
http://www.facebook.com/LGItalia
also on facebook:
We are still working on a new version that improves the management of the MicroSD (avoiding unwanted disconnections) and the management of the touch (do not let the CPU goes to 100% when you touch the display).
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Are you sure about that?
LOOK HERE
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Yes. That's not an official announcement, it's an estimation time.
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Guys did u notice one thing,..., the camera app has the same icon as froyo..?
same goes for gallery, phone book, calc, ... the list goes on...
Also, battery, signal, 3g...are all weird ... especially signal...its supposed to turn green when its connected to google servers, isn't it?
Are u sure this is the " ufficiale " Gingerbread ROM for Optimus One p500 ?
Somehow I don't think LG will post such a HUGE RELEASE in such a small manner - video - that only a few come to know about ( initially )....( just thinking out aloud )
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Use common sense, please.
It's an official LG facebook page for Italian customers. The announcement was also made in Italian. Yes, it's official. But yes, it'll be made in English as well.
But I believe we will get it before the Italian version.
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LGintheBox says, that the Kernel is 2.6.35.10-perf [email protected] #1
I don't know what to believe. The release date keep getting pushed out. Last I was told, it should out in May...
I think LG wait for the Optimus 2x gingerbread update......Optimus One mustn't be the first phone with 2.3.....
Well, i think it will roll out on other country first, way before Italy...
I am on a Singaporean FW. Hope that means we will get it sooner. Praying...
We'll just have to wait and see.
Hopefully it will be released by the end of this month, but if it will be July, also not a big problem.
One way or the other, we're getting an official Gingerbread.
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
This would also mean that x8, x10 mini and x10 mini pro will be obliged to receive further Android updates. Since the guidelines from google also include already released phones.
Since the Release of the mini/mini pro its almost a year so we would still have a few months left on our updates.
Lets hope SE decides to do it.
Is it not only for "new devices"?
On a german news site a read it will also include older devices. But i guess we will have to wait and see
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I hope that our X10 mini/pro will be also included in this
Official Gingerbread would be pretty nice, I'm thankful for nobodyatall's and the other developers work on their custom ROMS, right now the VGA-only camera and lack of Flash is the only thing stopping me from moving over to MiniCM7.
Hmm. This is very interesting and I can't believe Google is coming to our rescue (really they're just defending their business etc. but we benefit).
I notice in the article it does say new devices. But yes our Minis are still under SE's 2 year update. However, SE have bullshi**ted before about what these phones are capable of re: X10 dualtouch etc. then release it. But, our devices under SE's 2 years and the new Minis on 2.3 makes me think that there is still a chance. I've read some devs on here say that much will be different in the new Minis and porting the software in the future will likely not work, but I still think SE could port it themselves via an official 'generic' release like they did with the X10. Not telling us that now saves them 5million questions every day about when we get it. Let's hope something is leaked...I LOVE leaks...
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=16755
What are these April 2011 updates certified? Has anyone discussed them?...
Phoney, I think you'll be more than pleasantly surprised with the MiniCM7 ROM from Owain and Slade87. I've been using it for two weeks now and found the upgrade process very simple. The rom offers dual touch, access to the full 256mb of internal storage, very easy to put your apps onto sd, you can run it faster than the 600 Mhz specified by Sony, its a very stable rom.
Just make sure you do a backup first, you can always recover back to the standard SE rom, then you'll realise just how bad it is.
You'll turn your mini pro into a brand new, sexy rom for only a few hours (probably less than that) work.
I also use Owain and Slades Custom ROM and ist very Stable , Fast and works great
Its worth to update that rom!
And i think that SE will not bring bigger updates for us!! so Iam lucky that this community have so great DEVS
So big thx to Owain and Slade87
In my opinion, we should encourage SE to update our devices to gingerbread..
Personally I would only have a peak and probably return to the ROM I'm currently using (NobodyAtAll's CM7 ASOP). The main advantage i see here however is that things like full 5mp camera support etc.. would be much simpler to obtain if it just becomes a question of moving the various files and drivers from SE's 2.3.4 to NAA's or any other CM7/2.3 rom
i'd rather using your ROM slade , its alot better xD
means tat we will get the ginger bread?
that means that the old ones xperia will be very very stable with those new android firmwares?
Hell Yea!!
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i'd rather using your ROM slade , its alot better xD
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lo mismo digo yo
w00t! If they update us to GB or even Froyo, that means they will need to update the kernel to support functionality in the new versions. (e.g. tethering/iptables) Keeping my fingers crossed.
Unless I'm mistaken, that Google agreement mentioned ONLY NEW devices. There is no news, as far as I know right now, that this covers devices already released. I just thought I'd say this before people start blowing up balloons - there is absolutely no hint of 2.3 for our Minis by SE so I don't know where people get the excitement from.
I don't know whether you've read about the security issues regarding the vulnerability of the android phones
blogs.computerworld.com/18304/scary_android_security_hole_in_99_of_phones_panic?af[/url]
(sorry, can't post links yet)
but in whatever way google tackles this problem, this issue might prompt them to release further updates to every android phone. Article says only versions 2.3.4. or later are safe.
I read this indeed ^^^^ and I think Google is much more serious about updating than manufacturers. I don't know what kind of pressure they might exert on manufacturers to update recently released devices both because of this security issue (before 2.3) and because of that new 18 month agreement for updates. Here's hoping.
Hope we get updated...
I think they should hire owain and slade - that would solve lot of things
It's only for NEW devices and unfortunately SE doesn't say anything about us
How's software support from manufacturer? Will we be getting regular security patches OTA?
Will it be supported for at least 2 years?
Anybody owned an Oppo phone knows about their history with updates?
Also, is their OS smooth and battery efficient or just horrible?
Thanks for reading
I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I had the oppo find 7. The phone was very good in his time but the software was very buggy. Os updates were very bad and it tOok a very long time to see an update. At the end, oppo closed his website and community forums leaving europe. Fortunately, there was xda devs supporting the device like omnirom etc...
I like the oppo find x but i m very septical about the support and more about the camera mechanism durability. An other thing, viewing the camera mechanism, i douubt the phone have an ip certification.
Ps: i think oppo will leave the europe maket one more time because of their prices. They are not known in france for example and a basic configuration at 999€, peoples will prefer to buy an iphone or a samsung. Maybe a huawei or a xiaomi wich are more famous than oppo here.
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I agree with you, you forgot The Lamborghini version At 1699 €. Huawei and recently Xiaomi are already well known and sold in France, paradoxically Oneplus too but not Oppo
I doubt Oppo will break into the European market. big company in Asia certainly but almost unknown in Europe and bad memories of their rotating camera on N1 and N3....
I'm from germany and i think nearly nobody here or in france/spain/italy/netherlands will ever buy this phone at a pricetag of 999€. Nobody knows Oppo so you can impress nobody with your "Noname Phone". If you want to spend that much money you simply buy an iPhone or a S9+.
The Huawei P20 Pro is only selling good at that high pricetag because of the telekom, o2 and vodafone with a contract. So you have to pay 1-300€ to get the device. An Oppo without contract is nearly impossible to sell.
Thanks guys for your replies.
ColorOS in Oppo Find 7 days were always a year behind. For instance, Android was at version 4.4 Kitkat and yet Find 7 was released with 4.3 Jelly Bean. It's true that Oppo had continued to support it for 3 years, but remember at that third year, Android was at 6.0.1 Marshmallow and yet Find 7's latest final release was Project Something OS which is 5.1 Lollipop.
For people that doesn't necessarily understand how to root, TWRP, or flash custom ROMs, something will go wrong during this process because none of those updates are OTA nor recommended by service centers.
Should something ever go wrong, Oppo official service centers will give you its original 4.3 Jellybean that does not even support unified partition of any kind.
Until this day, June 2018, people still asks me: "What kind a phone is that? The camera is amazing."
The camera is still amazing even for 2018. Unfortunately, Oppo is very bad at releasing software updates. For that department, Oneplus is the better sister company but its camera & audio is not as good as Oppo's.
I was told that if you want good audio, VIVO seems to be the better sister company but I haven't paid much attention to its camera & software update support. I hope this helps.
Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
To be honest Find 7 support was bad but also typical when considering it's contemporaries. At its introduction there was no monthly security update even for Nexus devices, it didn't exist. A whole bunch of OEMs were going to make you wait quite some time for updates and there would not be many. If they offer support similar to their contemporaries today as they did then it's going to be much better than it was for the Find 7.
Let's face it though; we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
krabman said:
we're all going to have camera lift failure before the phone gets too antiquated.
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For sure.
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pappschlumpf said:
Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Lol.
I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
pappschlumpf said:
Anyone having an Oppo contact address? Marketing, developement section maybe. It looks like the support is bot driven. Asked them to forward my mail to the dev section, but well, lol.
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Twitter is the best way
I have the Oppo Find 7; bought it in 2014. If I had to use one word to describe the official software support, its 'frustrating'. The software on the phone was always 2 versions behind the latest one every year. It was released with Jelly bean 4.3 and around that time 5.0 was just around the corner. It took them 2-2.5 years to release an Android 5.1 ROM. Every major update from Oppo required the users to factory reset the device and it was very difficult for a layman to perform these flashes every time a new ROM was released. All the official ROMs released were beta - Color OS 2.1 Beta, Spectrum 1.1 Beta etc. Usually you'll find tons of custom ROMs from third party developers from China devs but flashing them on the international version of the phone bricked the device. All of the oppo community was very active in reporting bugs and flashing ROMs, but the official supporters soon closed the community website and all other oppo forums as they couldn't keep up with the updates and bug fixes. Officially the Find 7 got 7 ColorOS ROMS (2.0.0, 2.0.4, 2.0.5, 2.0.7, 2.0.8, 2.1.0, 2.1.5 from 4.4 to 5.1) and all were Beta releases. All of them had at least one or more major bugs. ColorOS isn't user friendly and takes a lot of time to get used to, its a very bad attempt to copy iOS on iPhones. The only good part of the OS might be the camera.
I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all. You do bring up a good point though; a person should be prepared and willing to stay on the release software for some time. I myself will want to know who is going to be developing, or if there will be any at all. I'm fine with Oreo but I'm going to need an unlocked bootloader/magisk. As to their launcher, yeah, it's junk. Easily fixed at the play store however; I know I'll have my beloved Action Launcher on there in about 5 minutes. Assuming I buy of course, a lot of questions to be answered first.
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I went to omni and never looked back; had no problems at all..
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completly agreed
So basically unless we get custom roms for this phone - stay away.
I wouldn't go that far, if the bootloader is unlocked and you're good hanging on the delivered firmware it might still be a go. I would be as long as it's possible to enable double tap to wake, I hate having to swipe. The software itself was not that bad with the find 7, it was the craptacular launcher that hurt the stock experience.
All that said if a good developer picks one up and starts development that would make a buy decision easier to make.
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I was looking for freqs but didn't see anything, have I missed it? I'd beware the Chinese model, those can be trouble with the play store everywhere else. That is usually overcome by development but there isn't any way to know how much development this thing will see just yet. I'd certainly wait till I knew what it's play status was and the freqs... Haven't seen anything concrete on bootloader locks if any just yet either when I think about it. You're going to need that to get where you want to go.
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2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
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lap87 said:
I got money to spare and i really need a new phone (current daily driver is OP2 with official LOS 15.1).
How will the chinese version fare in Sweden/EU? I don't think localization will be an issue after setting it up, just wondering if there will be issues with 3G/4G etc.
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Based on Snapdragon 845 so there shall be no problem I guess.
2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE：850/900/1800/1900MHz ；
2G CDMA： BC0/BC1/BC10 ；
3G TD-SCDMA/TD-HSPA：B34/B39；
3G WCDMA/HSPA：B1/B2/B4/B5/B8；
4G TDD-LTE：B34/B38/B39/B40/B41；
4G FDD-LTE：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28A/B28B；
I've had a few Oppo phones, and like others have said here, the biggest problem is software update speed. Their issue is that they use ColorOS, which is a heavy skin on the phone. They tapered it back some recently, but it still ends up making them delay updates because they have to do so much on their end.
The phones are always solid, high-quality phones. They just care too much about how the phone looks, rather than how current it is.
I have a NEX from China, and it was pretty simple to add Google services working flawlessly.
I assume same will be for FIND X which i have pre-ordered already should get it by 18th July.