Hey guys I was just wondering if there was a way to completely our even partially remove webtop. I never use it nor care for it and wouldn't mind more room and hopefully more free memory.
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Would you use it if it was more like UbunTop without having to unlock/root the phone?
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Would you use it if it was more like UbunTop without having to unlock/root the phone?
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If no rooting/unlocking required then ubuntop will be a big plus.
No not really I don't think. Never saw ubuntop in action tho
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jbuggydroid said:
Hey guys I was just wondering if there was a way to completely our even partially remove webtop. I never use it nor care for it and wouldn't mind more room and hopefully more free memory.
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Yeah, I'd be interested in this as well. Repartition the internal storage. I don't need or use webtop and I'd much rather have that space for apps.
This will probably require the unlocked bootloader, but even with that, directions haven't been posted on how to do this.
I worked a bit on adapting the FireRat partition mods, but haven't really had time to finish it up.
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I should say that the reason it won't work at the moment is because I think we need some bootimg work- which isn't my best area, I really don't have a best area... anyways-
From what I can gather, we need to figure out how to do this:
You can boot a kernel with a modified partition table using one of two methods;
the "-c" parameter to fastboot allows you to add kernel parameters. This is good for booting RECOVERY images and applying custom layouts.
The second method is to build the custom layout into your boot.img or recovery.img.
This can be done using the "--cmdline" parameter to mkbootimg.
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And since I don't have a x64 box, I can't build ------------------------------yup thats about it...maybe I can get mrinhart or shabby to help, but I really don't have a lot of time right now between my sons football practices/games, daughters Cheer and Dance, and work.
Any Luck on this?
Go go gadget thread necromancer!
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Any Luck on this?
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First. ZOMBIES!!! (haven't slept in going on 38hrs so bear with me)
The repartition is more headache than it's worth. The chance of bricking and I mean replace phone level of bricking, is very high. The only thing else I can figure is to format the osh partition and make it readable as storage for CWM/TWRP backups or fastboot accessible in case of recovery failure. This won't recover the space used but would at least repurpose it.
I'm still in the process of working on a number of personal projects as well as trying to get some issues with the next ROM and Webtop release fixed so everything is in a "No ETA's" status.
Oh and I need to update the All Things MoPho thread on multiple sites.
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First. ZOMBIES!!! (haven't slept in going on 38hrs so bear with me)
The repartition is more headache than it's worth. The chance of bricking and I mean replace phone level of bricking, is very high. The only thing else I can figure is to format the osh partition and make it readable as storage for CWM/TWRP backups or fastboot accessible in case of recovery failure. This won't recover the space used but would at least repurpose it.
I'm still in the process of working on a number of personal projects as well as trying to get some issues with the next ROM and Webtop release fixed so everything is in a "No ETA's" status.
Oh and I need to update the All Things MoPho thread on multiple sites.
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Is there a way to have a full desktop Linux emulated environment in its place? Like some type of emulator to emulate any desktop Linux distro with a higher resolution than webtop
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Is there a way to have a full desktop Linux emulated environment in its place? Like some type of emulator to emulate any desktop Linux distro with a higher resolution than webtop
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You don't need to emulate as Android=ARMLinux with a java frontend. This is demonstrated by the number of (insert disto here) on your phone projects here on xda and elsewhere. They are really running Linux on top of Linux.
How high of a resolution are you looking for? With tweaks, folks have been able to get 1080 output out of Webtop however 1366x768 really is it's sweet spot external output.
If by full desktop environment you mean a full version of KDE or Gnome, then no. I was able to get Gnome crammed into webtop but it required that I build it off device and remove everything not Gnome. It left no room for anything else and would have forced users to use webtop2sd as it had less than 50MB free space after cleaning the partition. It was actually more limited than webtop. To help put Webtop in a category here how it stands up against actual distros.
Webtop= Lubuntu running Avant instead of the built-in LXDE and most preinstalled apps removed.
Webtop+= Webtop with LXDE as its default so Lubuntu lite.
Ubuntop= Xubuntu lite with a ton of common apps installed.
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You don't need to emulate as Android=ARMLinux with a java frontend. This is demonstrated by the number of (insert disto here) on your phone projects here on xda and elsewhere. They are really running Linux on top of Linux.
How high of a resolution are you looking for? With tweaks, folks have been able to get 1080 output out of Webtop however 1366x768 really is it's sweet spot external output.
If by full desktop environment you mean a full version of KDE or Gnome, then no. I was able to get Gnome crammed into webtop but it required that I build it off device and remove everything not Gnome. It left no room for anything else and would have forced users to use webtop2sd as it had less than 50MB free space after cleaning the partition. It was actually more limited than webtop. To help put Webtop in a category here how it stands up against actual distros.
Webtop= Lubuntu running Avant instead of the built-in LXDE and most preinstalled apps removed.
Webtop+= Webtop with LXDE as its default so Lubuntu lite.
Ubuntop= Xubuntu lite with a ton of common apps installed.
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Have you heard about GenTop2? I just happened to find this on the Atrix thread posted about an hour ago (ironic) would this work for the photon? I wouldn't see why not considering both have the same version of webtop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617684
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Have you heard about GenTop2? I just happened to find this on the Atrix thread posted about an hour ago (ironic) would this work for the photon? I wouldn't see why not considering both have the same version of webtop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617684
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It's a Webtop replacement and not a modification like Ubuntop. Unless Gentoo has changed, there's a ton of command line usage involved. This will scare off most linux users and almost all linux noobs. If I can get Ubuntop fixed and Gentoo ported it should cover just about all Webtop users. I'm waiting for a response back from Gendol to cut down on porting time.
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Hi, didn't want to clutter the "bad news" thread nontechnical noob questions. If the tablet won't boot from SD
1) Will it still possibly be rootable where I could side load apps? I could live with the stock ROM if I could sideload apks, maybe.
2) Am I right to assume even if it is rootable where I can add apps, it is much more likely that I could brick it somehow?
Dang, just really crappy timing. I actually bought gift cards to get it (so I could get some cash-back deals). I can't return the cards. I guess if this thing isn't worth it, I can use them to get a refurb color.
Very surprised and disappointed they went this route (if they really did).
Damn
Same here, I could live with side-loading. But I think it's a bit early to write off bootable SD. Hopefully it's here relatively soon as I'd like to leave the stock experience in place for family members.
As an aside, I've got the original Nook Color (rooted of course), as well as the Transformer. Even without the benefit of ICS, I found that I still resorted to grabbing the NC for my bedtime reading (Google Reader and articles in RIL, rather than actual books). 7" is perfect, 10" a bit unwieldy for me.
I picked up the NT today and am very happy I did. It's a nail in the coffin for the Transformer, gonna sell it as the NT will meet all my needs. I'm saying this based on the stock experience with the expectation that we'll have ROMs at some point.
But soon enough we'll have a) root and b) ICS on the NT. It's gonna be sweet!
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an Android device that XDA geniouses couldn't root.
Including the crazy-ass encrypted Craporola devices.
Rooting might be doable, but if the bootloader is encrypted, then installing a custom ROM like CM7 might be out of the question.
Case and point: look at how much agony the owner of the Motorola Milestone (the GSM version of the Droid) went through. Far as i know, they just got the official Froyo ROM within last few month, and most likely won't get GB, ever.
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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm yet to see an Android device that XDA geniouses couldn't root.
Including the crazy-ass encrypted Craporola devices.
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Yeah i figured as much but wasn't sure if there was something out there I wasn't aware of. I'm using an Atrix. Despite Motorola's best efforts, the community eventually got into this thing.
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Rooting might be doable, but if the bootloader is encrypted, then installing a custom ROM like CM7 might be out of the question.
Case and point: look at how much agony the owner of the Motorola Milestone (the GSM version of the Droid) went through. Far as i know, they just got the official Froyo ROM within last few month, and most likely won't get GB, ever.
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That would suck but I think I could live with it. I just noticed that some of the nook apps are the tablet version rather than the phone versions. Evernote and Netflix, for example. Root and sideloading would probably suffice, although B&N would lose some goodwill.
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I could honestly care less about custom roms or anything like that. I'm fine with the NT stock experience.
But sideloading would be a very very good thing, just so I can get the few apps I'd like to use onto the thing. I'm only gonna use it to consume media- but I'd like to decide which apps I use to do that.
Rooting will get most users far, but compare to a full blown CM7 rom, there still many short coming with just root.
Example:
1. Tablet soft buttons, the CM7 tablet soft key are vital in making a lot of side loaded application work in NC.
2. Custom keyboard. one of my favorite app on NC is the thumb keyboard, which make typing on the NC in landscape orientation feel natural. With Root, the user can install the keyboard, but won't be able to enable the keyboard, since B&N remove some of the menus settings.
3. Honeycomb and ICS, with the source code for ICS just came out, CM9 is on the horizon, without unlocking the bootloader, NT won't get a taste of either.
So Root is a great start, but for many android hackers and purist, it is not enough.
1. Tablet soft buttons, the CM7 tablet soft key are vital in making a lot of side loaded application work in NC.
I have button savior on my manually rooted NC. Works fine. Am I missing something?
2. Custom keyboard. one of my favorite app on NC is the thumb keyboard, which make typing on the NC in landscape orientation feel natural. With Root, the user can install the keyboard, but won't be able to enable the keyboard, since B&N remove some of the menus settings.
I got the Palm input keyboard working on my rooted NC. Worked great. I forget what I swapped it out for, but it wasn't a problem - you just have to tell the device that your preferred keyboard just happens to be named the same as its preferred keyboard and lives in the same place.
3. Honeycomb and ICS, with the source code for ICS just came out, CM9 is on the horizon, without unlocking the bootloader, NT won't get a taste of either.
This may be for the best.
I'm looking at Honeycomb now on a 10 incher, and I'm not as happy with what I'm seeing as I'd hoped. ADB is more challenging, and putting files on the device via mass storage device is right out, which means a lot of my tools for managing content on it are gone, too - manually copy over stuff that Calibre used to just take care of? Bleargh.
Honeycomb pretty much requires your real, fast computer talk to your honeycomb device, aka a ****ty slow computer, over a serial link as if it were a peer, rather than just being able to get the storage and write files to it.
And if you use linux, your good, fast computer can't even talk to the ****ty, slow one that google's deliivered because they didn't bothered to warn anyone about this far enough ahead of time for the linux folks to really get working on trying to port over that stupid set of media player commands. Who knew that anyone would all of a sudden decide they were going to pronounce a brain-dead media player communications interface as workable?
Once you unplug and being passively consuming your pr0n again, the tablet's all good and pretty.
http://soledadpenades.com/2011/06/12/honeycomb-mtp-and-linux/
Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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I truly hope that it won't be such an involved process for us, but still... very cool to read what the genius devs put together as a workaround on other devices. We just need to hope that they jump on the Nook Tablet like they did the NC.
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Not to second guess anyone here, but there always OTHER ways of doing things. Witness the Droid X where even with an encrypted bootloader an exploit was found called 2nd Init (http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works) which allowed the Droid X to get custom roms (albeit with the stock kernel) such as CM7 and MIUI.
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I have a Defy, and it need too 2ndInit to start custom rom like CM7/MIUI.
I hope that NT will be no boot-locked, but if it's the sadly truth I think that port 2ndInit will be not too much hard.
well we already figured out how to side load apps. they dont pop up in NT's GUI, but with 2 buttons you can launch Go Launcher and within there you can see everything you installed.
I would actual prefer to have the stock Rom, just rooted. I had CM 7.1 on my NC but removed it because I actually do use the NC as bookreader and that would the primary use for a NT. I have a TF and soon a TF Prime for the full tablet experience, which IMHO really needs a 10 inch or bigger screen.
Is it possible to totally remove webos from the touchpad and install Android only? Would be nice to have the maximum storage space available. Thanks all.
I wouldn't want to remove webOS. I've been an Android user for a pretty long time, but find that I like webOS better.
In Cyanogen's original post, introducing their android port, they address this and say that webOS should be left on the tablet.
Actually it's pretty neat having dualboot, you get the best of both worlds. But to each their own. I haven't run across any posts that address this, but if I do, I'll post the link.
They wouldn't nuke webos because the android OS is still in alpha, so if anything should happen you'd be left with a dumb tablet.
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Definitely like the dual boot, prefer it that way!!
I wish I could ditch WebOS, waste of space on my tab, not booted into it since the day Alpha 1 was released and have no intention of ever booting into WebOS again.
Not a good idea to nuke webOS just yet as we do not have a stable release of any Android distribution yet.
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Another thing to think about is that portions of webos are necessary right now for booting cm7. Removing webos completely would result in a brick. Just sayin......
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And warranty purposes if you want a replacement/insurance claim
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I tried CM7 and Xron's take on it. I didn't think I was going to because I have a 4.3" android phone, no desire to see that experience scaled and stretched. I immediately saw I was right. Gingerbread does not lend itself to tablets well, IMO.
The first thing I did in android? Googled "moboot default webOS." I will leave it on there in the event I absolutely want to watch netflix or something. I just feel that the cards, and multi-tasking gestures in webOS is so much more intuitive.
I would try a Honeycomb build or ICS, but I just don't find a buggy phone OS a good fit for a tablet. Not that I'm complaining, its an alpha build, but even smooth and stable, I would not want 2.3 on here.
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I wish I could ditch WebOS, waste of space on my tab, not booted into it since the day Alpha 1 was released and have no intention of ever booting into WebOS again.
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afaik CM-Release states that WebOS hardly takes up any space so it would be dumb to ditch it just for space issues?
Don't plan on removing web os. The more I learn the more I think I can wait on a stable Android Port to live along side web os.
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I tried CM7 and Xron's take on it. I didn't think I was going to because I have a 4.3" android phone, no desire to see that experience scaled and stretched. I immediately saw I was right. Gingerbread does not lend itself to tablets well, IMO.
The first thing I did in android? Googled "moboot default webOS." I will leave it on there in the event I absolutely want to watch netflix or something. I just feel that the cards, and multi-tasking gestures in webOS is so much more intuitive.
I would try a Honeycomb build or ICS, but I just don't find a buggy phone OS a good fit for a tablet. Not that I'm complaining, its an alpha build, but even smooth and stable, I would not want 2.3 on here.
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yep thats my point too. great developement. stable and responsive alpha. but it still feels like a stretched phone os. webos feels so much more tablet optimized.
Well, we understand that it is just Alpha builds. However, going on about how you do not want to wipe WebOS because of Alpha/Beta/Not Tablet Roms, doesn't help. It is just a personal opinion there. I would love to wipe out the WebOS part as well, if nothing than to free up more space. However, I do understand that it is an essential part to the Mods to work and I would not. If the day comes and the Mods are independent, I would wipe it.
As far as warranty is involved, did you not just void the warranty by installing the CM on the touchpad?
Not to say webos is bad, but I just would rather dual booting Ubuntu-native and CM9 alpha 2.
How would you charge it if the battery was dead?
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How would you charge it if the battery was dead?
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.......by charging it through Android?
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How would you charge it if the battery was dead?
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Native Ubuntu
I have the 16GB Touchpad. Currently running Android ICS (the CN version). Prior to that, I had Gingerbread... probably installed it back in October? My point is that I have not booted into webOS at all since October. I don't even remember what webOS looks like anymore.
My Touchpad is used daily and I have been happy 99% of the time. No real reason for me to keep webOS on it. On other other hand, how much storage space can I gain if I "nuke" webOS out of my Touchpad? Is it 2GB, 3GB, or perhaps more?
Thanks!
Firstly, lthe Android team doesn't have any way to do this. It is so till necessary on occasion to have WebOS on here, because the underlying firmware (below the kernel) requires it.
Secondly, even if you did completely remove all the other partitions from WebOS, yo would only gain yourself approximately one gig of space. 1056 MB to be exact. Then you need your /boot which is 30, so you gain 1024. Not a significant amount of space, so why bother, especially since you still need the WebOS in case something goes terribly wrong and out have to reform pat or reinstall anything.
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i think the better question should be: "when can we get a stable ICS on the HP Touchpad?"
it will be nice to be able to run just a "stable" ICS on the hp touchpad. i will never wipe out webos for any alpha or beta OS, even when i can.
Have you guys heard of this? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
It runs Ubuntu on Android and it displays it on a monitor as a full blown desktop, while simultaneously running Android on the phone so that you still have full access to the dialer, messages etc...
Kewl!
Yeah, It was talked about here for a little bit:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509790
I thought it would be a hot topic but it kinda just faded away. lol. I think that would be awesome. But our locked bootloaders probably wouldnt let us do it.
Our phone meets all the minimum requirements form the website. It is just a matter of it releasing I believe. THis is exciting news! I would love to be able to run this one my phone.
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Our phone meets all the minimum requirements form the website. It is just a matter of it releasing I believe. THis is exciting news! I would love to be able to run this one my phone.
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You dont think our kernel would need to be modified? I hope you're right. Also, it looks like they are pushing it more towards phone manufacturers and cell carriers to make it pre loaded on phones. But I hope they release it as a separate thing to anyone wanting it.
From what I understand they are working on phones that meet these specs. Our device does. I am guessing that they would have to update the kernal or at least be able to modify it a little bit to include this. I am excited to see what happens though. It would be ashame to have such a powerful device and not be able to use this.
There is an ubuntu installer ap on the market but haven't tried it
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If it's a virtual environment, I don't see why the kernel would be an issue. I'm assuming it's just like the way I run Windows as a VM inside Linux.
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I have tried the debian verison of the ubuntu installer and it runs but was difficult to use if using the gui command line was fine though
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Coming over from stock to Joker's CM9, i was surprised to see that there is no way to use Webtop.
This was problematic, as I have a lapdock and i would still like to use it.
So i decided to try and install unbuntop. However, webtop2sd gives multiple errors and fails to recognize any partition on my external 16GB SD card.
Should my SD card be formatted to exfs4?
Does CM9's kernel support that file system?
Is there any way to make webtop work?
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Coming over from stock to Joker's CM9, i was surprised to see that there is no way to use Webtop.
This was problematic, as I have a lapdock and i would still like to use it.
So i decided to try and install unbuntop. However, webtop2sd gives multiple errors and fails to recognize any partition on my external 16GB SD card.
Should my SD card be formatted to exfs4?
Does CM9's kernel support that file system?
Is there any way to make webtop work?
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Webtop currently doesn't work with AOSP/CM7/CM9. For webtop you have to use stock based ROMs.
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Webtop currently doesn't work with AOSP/CM7/CM9. For webtop you have to use stock based ROMs.
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Is it always going to be like that?
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It may be a while. Both CM7 and 9 are still in a beta phase and don't even support webtop. Once we have a release candidate then progress will be easier.
In short, go back to a stock based rom as it may be a couple months.
With the lap dock will the phone HDMI mirror onto the lap dock? If so can't you just run Ubuntu from your SD card?
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Yes, it does mirror. However, its still at qHD quality. Quite cruddy on the lapdock.
I guess ill reflash a blur rom and see if i can install ubuntop for a while. What a shame, I really liked ICS.
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I'm kinda in the same boat as you. I'm about to go out of town and I use webtop with the HDMI hack when in the hotel room. I'm going to try using the stock ics browser over HDMI and see how well that works out. I tried running Ubuntu today over the SD card and it was pretty ****ty.
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I can assure you that the quality will be less than thrilling.
Put qHD (550x4??x32) screen size into 1920x1080x32 capable screen.. it'll be less than legible probably.
I would really reccomend getting a Lapdock. My father won one at his Sprint meeting and gave it to me as a gift (lucky bastard kept the iPad 3 however...)
Definitely worth it. I wouldn't use it for anything more than typing short emails, text messages, and short web cessions. Very tight keyboard.
A plus is that it charges your battery while in use and while not in use.
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Coming over from stock to Joker's CM9, i was surprised to see that there is no way to use Webtop.
This was problematic, as I have a lapdock and i would still like to use it.
So i decided to try and install unbuntop. However, webtop2sd gives multiple errors and fails to recognize any partition on my external 16GB SD card.
Should my SD card be formatted to exfs4?
Does CM9's kernel support that file system?
Is there any way to make webtop work?
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In my opinon what you gain from custom roms is not worh the functionally you lose in going from a stock rom. Plus the makers of custom roms are playing at dev'ing and continue to promise things they just can't produce. The atrix stock rom is so far beyond what they can do. It shows in all these cripppled roms that get released. It's like look what I can do , but not correctly or fulling working. If you purchased an Atrix the webtop is a feature that no other non-motorola phone can do. Even if it's slow it's still an awesome product.
example; The guy that puts 24inch rims on his 4x4, ruins his ride quality and 4x4 feature but it's different then his friends 4x4. Show offs...
I just got one of those 20$ lapdocks from Radioshack and was wondering what are the best ROMs with webtop? Right now I'm using Jokersax' CM9 (but considering switching to epinter's CM10) and just doing HDMI mirroring. I'd prefer to stick with my current ROM if there is some kind of webtop like thing or maybe Ubuntu or Debian that I can install on it. I have an 8GB microSD card and 5 gigs of internal storage left so space is not an issue.
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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This is your Nottachtrix 1.3.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567241
This is the webtopmod you used ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
Extra question: Does Lapdock used webtop to work? Multimedia dock and lapdock using the same "webtop"? Or multimedia dock and lapdock have different "webtop"?
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Extra question: Does Lapdock used webtop to work? Multimedia dock and lapdock using the same "webtop"? Or multimedia dock and lapdock have different "webtop"?
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Two different things.
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Two different things.
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I see.. Thanks for your reply.
If my Atrix is with ICS/JB. I still can use lapdock features? Just webtop not will work in ICS/JB ROM?
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Yes, you should just have mirroring via HDMI to the display. Resolution might not match the screen and looks a little aliased though. GB based rom have webtop and that match the resolution of the screen and makes it look much better.
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Do you mean i still can use lapdock features after flashed to ICS/JB?
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This is your Nottachtrix 1.3.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567241
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Yep.
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This is the webtopmod you used ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093790
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Yep. See my last post on that topic for few mods.
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Deafcyclist said:
You should be able to. Just not with the web top. Though I have heard that JB can be a Little wonky with hdmi mirroring.
I've used jokersax CM9 without issue except for that aliasing issue.
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Without the Full version of Firefox? :crying:
dotamaple said:
Without the Full version of Firefox? :crying:
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Yes, without full version of Firefox.
Maybe you should go read up on various HDMI output modes.
Whats this about 20 dollar laptop docks?
ear0wax said:
Whats this about 20 dollar laptop docks?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793300
Look around the end of the thread.
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
Kanan875 said:
So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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I have 1GHz Faux kernel 026b, so the results are not the best, I prefer longer battery than high performance.
Results are: Total: 2494. CPU: 2748, Mem: 2689, IO: 4605, 2D: 265, 3D: 2162
(Result is 2819 with 1.3GHz Faux kernel)
Kanan875 said:
So, is there a way to run a full Linux distro without a Blur ROM?
Also, how is your phone's performance on Nottachtrix? What kind of Quadrant scores does it get?
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define "full".
There is a "way" to run a full distro, but you'll be VNCing into it, since the terminal doesn't support a graphical output., anyways, it works alright, video is wonky though, so I wouldn't recommend that, but even openoffice works.
http://linuxonandroid.org/
you can also check the thread here at XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585027
jisse44 said:
Hi.
You have to install a Gingerbread Blur ROM to have Webtop. Not compatible with any CM.
Only a tablet UI mod (not Ubuntu) with CM10 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
Personnaly I have Nottachtrix 1.3.1 with WebTopMod, running a full Squeeze up-to-date Debian.
I tested Ubuntop, but the Jaunty Ubuntu is too old and support end since october 2010...
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HI, this post is a bit old now so im sure things have changed a bit, im hoping to get my atrix rooted this week(by my cousin) and want the right rom put on it, im a complete noob and all the threads that ive read about with the lapdock, talk about changing things.
In your experience which rom just works, Id like to be able to use maps, camera and video camera aswell as lapdock.
Any advice is appreciated as ive got headache with trying to read up on all this.
cheers
Joe
I see that the last post to this thread (before mine) is dated 3 years ago and the questions in it went unanswered, so I am doubtful that my question(s) will be seen or answered as well, but here goes.
This is my first post to these forums, so keep that in mind if I make any mistakes, or break any rules. I own 3 Motorola Atrix 4G phones in various states of working, plus the Lapdock, which is IMO brilliant and the main reason for me searching out this phone and buying 2 replacement phones after my first Atrix 4G LCD screen stopped working. In fact, I bought the Lapdock to use with my Raspberry Pi first, then decided I wanted the cell phone to use with the Lapdock. I still like the Atrix 4G, even though it replaced my iPhone (3S I think), which I lost (or it was stolen). My question(s) is/are the same as the OP and title of this thread, now that it is Sept. of 2015, what is the best ROM version and what is the latest version of Android I can use on my Atrix 4G, while still being able to use the Lapdock? I don't care if it means using the Webtop application, or a different Linux for ARM/Android desktop, but I don't want to lose any functionality of the stock cell phone. In fact, I want as much functionality as possible, so on occasions when I need to use the phone and lapdock combination as a temporary replacement for a full computer, I can do so, with reasonable limitations. The main functions I need/want in my Atrix 4G cell phone are: calling (obviously), GPS navigation, calendar, contacts, calculator, camera, taking notes for reminders, and searching the web for locations of things I need to buy, or places I need to go occasionally. I prefer Firefox as my web browser of choice, but can do with any good browser, if Firefox is not available with the best ROM & Android version choice for the Atrix 4G & lapdock combination.
I hope that some members here are still using the Atrix 4G, even though it is an old phone now, and they can give me their recommendations. I bought all 3 of my Atrix 4G phones unlocked and have zero experience at modifying or replacing ROM images on cell phones, but I am willing to learn how to do it, after I know what I will be aiming for with some recommendations. I also have almost zero experience with using Linux, but have checked it out a few times over the last 15+/- years.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
David
aka AmigaDave (Amiga = Commodore computer of 80's & 90's, not Spanish girlfriend)
The leak version works for me
Sent from my LG-E980 using XDA Free mobile app
b088yj said:
The leak version works for me
Sent from my LG-E980 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks for the quick reply b088yj.
Since I am new to all of this, can you give me more info on what the "leak version" is and where I can find it? I don't want to assume I can figure out what you mean by "leak version", and end up with results that don't work, or take a chance of bricking my phone.
Is this "leak version" using the Webtop, or some other desktop GUI for when the phone is plugged into the Lapdock? I have no preference to keeping or replacing the Webtop with something else, so long as it "just works", and provides the same functionality, including all features on the phone working (like the finger print reader, sound, camera, etc.).
Also, what steps are needed to install it (if you can just provide me with some links to where I can find the specific information I need to read, I can figure it out for myself, but listing the specific steps you took to install the "leak version" on your Atrix 4G would be really helpful, plus if there is anything needed before, during, or after you install the "leak version" to make it all just WORK).
For example: To install the "leak version" you need to install X number of things on your Atrix 4G, asdfg + hjkl; + zxcvb in the order listed in the step-by-step instructions below.
Step 1: Backup your existing cell phone system, data and contacts using ???
Step 2: Wipe the system using ???
Step 3: Go here (link) and download file/app/utility/etc. abc.xyz
Step 4: Unzip and run, or install app/utility, or ???, on your cell phone/computer to transfer to your cell phone.
Step 5: Using a shell window, enter the following commands [email protected]#$%^&
Step 6: Repeat Steps 3 through 5 for file/app/utility/etc. 2 and 3, which you can find here (link) and here (link).
Step 7: Get on your knees and pray while rebooting your cell phone to see if it all worked
Like I wrote earlier, I have no idea what I need to do, but do have some common sense and can follow clearly written directions, if the person providing them to me does not assume that I know some part of the process and they leave out something they think is obvious and generally known to all cell phone hackers (which I am not to be considered in any shape, way, or fashion).
Thanks again,
David
aka AmigaDave
Edit: I see from your signature, you are using a LG-E980, does that mean that you no longer use your Atrix 4G?