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I just had a couple of questions about the whole ROMS and how to install them. I have my Vibrant rooted but I'm still not 100% sure how to root. What I looked up online is the following:
1-Use ROM manager to download recover image.
2-Download ROM and save it on the SD.
3-Boot into recovery (1st question can I boot into recovery through ROM manager or do I have to do it the manual way?)
4-Select option reinstall packages which take you to the ClockWork Recovery
5-Wipe date from phone (2nd question I've heard about NANDROID back ups but what exactly are they and what do they do? If i make a nandroid back up then wipe will I still be able to restore my phone to its previous condition through this back up?
6-install .zip from SD and Voila you have ROM.
So aside from the two obvious questions I just want to know if I have the correct steps?
The help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
ibuddha said:
I just had a couple of questions about the whole ROMS and how to install them. I have my Vibrant rooted but I'm still not 100% sure how to root. What I looked up online is the following:
1-Use ROM manager to download recover image.
2-Download ROM and save it on the SD.
3-Boot into recovery (1st question can I boot into recovery through ROM manager or do I have to do it the manual way?)
4-Select option reinstall packages which take you to the ClockWork Recovery
5-Wipe date from phone (2nd question I've heard about NANDROID back ups but what exactly are they and what do they do? If i make a nandroid back up then wipe will I still be able to restore my phone to its previous condition through this back up?
6-install .zip from SD and Voila you have ROM.
So aside from the two obvious questions I just want to know if I have the correct steps?
The help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
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1) Yes Rom Manager will let you boot directly into clockwork recovery.
2) Yes Nandroid will make a complete backup of your phone software and apps installed, so when you restore a backup it will be the same as when you backed it up.
3) Make your nandroid before wiping anything! Other wise your steps are ok.
Awesome!! And I can make the nandroid back up from clock work right? Also can I move the back up to like a usb or do I have to keep it on the phone?
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Yes, you use clockwork to make the nandroid bakup. And if you like you can store the backup on your USB drive. Just copy the folder over and you will be all good. You only have to have the backup on the phone if you intend to restore a backup.
Whats great about Clockwork and Nandroid which works well with Clockwork is I have my stock rom all the way to my current. I just keep making backups and I restore if I want to compare. I have the following on my phone.
Stock
Vibrant4
Vibrant5
Vibrant6
Vibrant7
When I get a Rom just the way I like it I make a backup of it so if/when I have to leave it and possibly come back to it I just flash it. Also I would recommend Titanium Backup so you can backup your apps and reload them even if you go back on a rom. Makes reloading settings easier in your apps too.
Ok, so I just made a back up using rom mangers back up rom feature, am I supposed to specifically look for something that says "nandroid"?
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You will only see "nandroid" if you boot your phone into clockwork recovery.
And, no, you don't specifically need to look for it.
aksoutherland said:
Yes, you use clockwork to make the nandroid bakup. And if you like you can store the backup on your USB drive. Just copy the folder over and you will be all good. You only have to have the backup on the phone if you intend to restore a backup.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't you want to keep your backup somewhere NOT on the phone? Because if you brick your phone, or corrupt it or something, wouldn't you have a tough time restoring with your backup file? I don't really get it.
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay...
anyway i used Rom manager to create my back up of my stock build after playing with Eugene's ROM for a bit I restored my back up like a G.
I LOVE ANDROID!!!
ibuddha said:
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay...
anyway i used Rom manager to create my back up of my stock build after playing with Eugene's ROM for a bit I restored my back up like a G.
I LOVE ANDROID!!!
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Nice work. I'm not quite there yet. So, you used ROM manager to restore to your nandroid backup?
Also, I think a lot of people use titanium back-up to back up all their apps.
Dang...
Thanks for the post! Now I remember how I did it!
trunkstar1 said:
Nice work. I'm not quite there yet. So, you used ROM manager to restore to your nandroid backup?
Also, I think a lot of people use titanium back-up to back up all their apps.
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Yeah, I loaded Eugene's ROM and played around with out a bit, then I downloaded rom manager from the market and restored the back up I saved on my sd. It was quick and painless.
jshuford said:
Thanks for the post! Now I remember how I did it!
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Glad I could help although I'm not sure how I did but sweet. I thought titanium back up was just another way of doing the back up stuff.
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Well...
After having just received my shiny new Vibrant... I just couldn't wait to F*$k with it!
I had been reading through the posts on this forum for several day's and went for it!
I kinda remember how/what I did and you just filled in the blanks.
So...Thank you
ibuddha said:
Well I've done it I tried out Eugenes Vibrant Hybrid ROM and it was nice but I'll just wait for something else later on. my only question is once you install a ROM i would have had to DL all my apps again which is gay..
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gay? fine by me
1. Make a nandroid backup using clockworkrecoverymod.
2. Copy the entire backup directory to your PC for "just in case" scenarios.
3. Make a backup of your user installed apps using Titanium backup, and copy it over to your PC.
4. Download the ROM (i.e. Eugene's Vibrant9.zip) to your internal SD card.
5. Boot into clockworkrecovery (I use ROM Manager for that)
6. Install ROM.zip from SD card
7. Reboot into normal boot.
8. Verify the basic functionality of the phone, and make sure your satisfaction level goes a notch up.
9. Download Titanium backup from the market and install it.
10. Restore Titanium backup.
11. Crack a beer, enjoy your accomplishments, and DO NOT ask when CM6 comes rolling around
lqaddict said:
1. Make a nandroid backup using clockworkrecoverymod.
2. Copy the entire backup directory to your PC for "just in case" scenarios.
3. Make a backup of your user installed apps using Titanium backup, and copy it over to your PC.
4. Download the ROM (i.e. Eugene's Vibrant9.zip) to your internal SD card.
5. Boot into clockworkrecovery (I use ROM Manager for that)
6. Install ROM.zip from SD card
7. Reboot into normal boot.
8. Verify the basic functionality of the phone, and make sure your satisfaction level goes a notch up.
9. Download Titanium backup from the market and install it.
10. Restore Titanium backup.
11. Crack a beer, enjoy your accomplishments, and DO NOT ask when CM6 comes rolling around
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In regards to titanium backup... do you need the DONATE version to restore the apps properly. OR will they restore with all our data, but just not link the market? Thanks in advance!
Any way to get into clockwork recovery without rom manager or if the phone isn't booting up at all? I guess I could always leave an update.zip of clockwork mod on the phone. Is that what everyone else does?
GameOver69 said:
In regards to titanium backup... do you need the DONATE version to restore the apps properly. OR will they restore with all our data, but just not link the market? Thanks in advance!
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I have a paid version, I don't think you would need the full version to properly restore the backup. I used it once to flash a different ROM, and I didn't have to re-purchase Titanium Backup again, I don't believe so.
Well every one tells me that the paid version of titanium is better because it updates your apps straight from the market or something like that. I just downloaded the paid version so I'll let you know how that works out.
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You can also pack the backed up user apps into update.zip and re-install the packages from the recovery, so no need to re-download the Titanium Backup, it should be there once you re-install packages from the recovery after booting into your new ROM.
how do i get my apps to sdcard? any help is much appreciated.
TD420 said:
how do i get my apps to sdcard? any help is much appreciated.
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Need more information in order to answer this question.
1. Are you rooted or are you running completely stock?
2. If you are rooted, which ROM are you currently running?
apps to sdcard
yes i am rooted, running kaosfroyo, i downloaded & flashed the apps2sdcard zip but said "installation aborted".
TD420 said:
yes i am rooted, running kaosfroyo, i downloaded & flashed the apps2sdcard zip but said "installation aborted".
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Well you may be getting ahead of yourself. Froyo-based ROMs have a built-in capability to move individual apps to your SD card. What version of KF are you running? If it's something recent, then go to Menu/Settings/CyanogenMod settings/Application settings and checkmark "Allow application moving".
You don't have to flash any zip for this. That would be for the "old" style of Apps2SD, which although not impossible to use with Froyo ROMs, requires some advanced steps that's honestly a PITA and not worth it in my opinion.
Note that not all apps can successfully be moved to the SD card, and you should not move any apps that have widgets you want to use, because if you do the widgets won't be available in the Widget selection screen.
To move the apps, go to Menu/Settings/Applications/Manage applications and select the app you want to try to move. After a slight delay, you'll see a screen with the option to "Move to SD card". If it fails then it just doesn't work with that particular app, press the back button and try it again with another.
There are apps for easier handling of moving apps in Froyo. There's one on the market I would have recommended but it recently (through an upgrade) became a crippled pay app so luckily I still have the old version.
You can use Titanium Backup to try to move all your apps to your SD card, and then you can go back in to Manage applications and move the individual apps that have widgets you want to use, back to the phone memory.
Hope this helps.
thank you. was a lot of help.
You're welcome!
Thanks as well, was looking for the step by step on how to do this.
"Glad to be of service"
^ Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
You're welcome!
I hope this question doesn't expose my noob too badly but here goes..
I just flashed the newest Workshed gingerbread rom (2.4). I came from 2.1 which is where I first started putting apps on my SD card. In flashing 2.3 I did a full data + dalvik wipe, flashed rom and flashed gapps per instructions. So there's the history, now to my question:
I'm trying to restore all my apps and those that I moved to the SD card in 2.1 are still showing up in the .android_secure folder on my SD card (as viewed on my computer) but not showing up as available apps on my phone. What I want to know is if I can restore all my apps from that folder or if I should just re-install all of them, which isn't a huge problem it would just be easier to restore and I'm lazy lol. Also, if I have to reinstall the apps, should I delete the ones from 2.1 that are in that folder?
SmithsEnemy said:
I hope this question doesn't expose my noob too badly but here goes..
I just flashed the newest Workshed gingerbread rom (2.4). I came from 2.1 which is where I first started putting apps on my SD card. In flashing 2.3 I did a full data + dalvik wipe, flashed rom and flashed gapps per instructions. So there's the history, now to my question:
I'm trying to restore all my apps and those that I moved to the SD card in 2.1 are still showing up in the .android_secure folder on my SD card (as viewed on my computer) but not showing up as available apps on my phone. What I want to know is if I can restore all my apps from that folder or if I should just re-install all of them, which isn't a huge problem it would just be easier to restore and I'm lazy lol. Also, if I have to reinstall the apps, should I delete the ones from 2.1 that are in that folder?
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This is confusing. 2.1 doesn't have native Apps2SD like Froyo and Gingerbread (2.2 and 2.3) have. The Apps2SD available for 2.1 ROMs use a separate partition on your SD card, not the .android-secure folder, which is only placed there by Froyo and GB (or yourself).
Do you have a nandroid of your old ROM from before you flashed GSB? If so, nandroid GSB and then restore your 2.1 nandroid and use Titanium Backup or My Backup off the Android Market to back up and restore your apps. If this is too painful without buying the pay versions of those apps (more useful, in TB you can do a batch backup and restore of all your apps instead of one at a time), then yes you should reinstall your apps manually. TB or My Backup will also backup and restore your apps' data, though, so you wouldn't have to re-enter all your apps individual settings.
Additionally, in the future, you should use some method to wipe the contents of the .android-secure folder when flashing a new ROM or a new version of a ROM, unless you are attempting a flashover (not wiping data, just wiping Dalvik cache), which is at least 50% of the time not completely successful (some things may not work correctly).
You can delete the folder manually, or...
There's an app called ROM Manager on the market. GSB (so far) also includes it. If you choose the option to "flash" the ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager, it will not actually overwrite Amon RA (assuming that's what recovery you use currently), it will allow you to load CWM Recovery from Amon RA by choosing (in Amon) to flash "update.zip", which ROM Manager places there after following the above steps.
The reason I'm detailing this is because CWM Recovery, when you choose it's Wipe Data/Factory Reset option, also wipes the contents of the .android-secure folder, and Amon RA Recovery does not. Also, using the ROM Manager method, you can still keep Amon RA Recovery on your phone, so you can have the best of both worlds.
I meant worksheds GSB version 2.1 sorry. Yeah I'll definitely follow your advice to clean up my .android_secure folder for next time, I broke down and re-installed all my apps already and set up Titanium backup so I don't have to do that again. I just wasn't sure whether or not I should delete the contents of that folder or if I could recover my apps from it. Thanks for the help!
SmithsEnemy said:
I meant worksheds GSB version 2.1 sorry. Yeah I'll definitely follow your advice to clean up my .android_secure folder for next time, I broke down and re-installed all my apps already and set up Titanium backup so I don't have to do that again. I just wasn't sure whether or not I should delete the contents of that folder or if I could recover my apps from it. Thanks for the help!
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I'm an idiot. LOL. Why I assumed you meant Android 2.1 instead of GSB 2.1, I don't know.
You're welcome!
Im on my way to flash Axura 2.2.5.7 on my rooted vibrant . I titanium backed up all my system data and all apps using ‘back up all apps + system data’ feature of titanium. I, then, downloaded Rom Manager *free version… and flashed clockworkmod recovery…then rebooted into recovery and made a nandroid back.
I have now downloaded ODIN 3 v 1.70 on my computer.
I have been reading various guides (including vibrant wiki and bible) on how to root and flash roms.
Since I did ‘flash clockworkmod recovery’ yesterday..do I need to do it again?
Can any one direct me to a step by step process on flashing the Axura Rom.
I guess it’s the fear of the unknown while flashing for the very first time.
Thanks
EDIT: I have copied the titanium folder from internal memory to my pc just in case. I also would like to make a back up of rom manager (nandroid backup or whatever it is caleld) onto my computer... How do I do that? I wasn't ablt to locate the folder.
sLiKK said:
Im on my way to flash Axura 2.2.5.7 on my rooted vibrant . I titanium backed up all my system data and all apps using ‘back up all apps + system data’ feature of titanium. I, then, downloaded Rom Manager *free version… and flashed clockworkmod recovery…then rebooted into recovery and made a nandroid back.
I have now downloaded ODIN 3 v 1.70 on my computer.
I have been reading various guides (including vibrant wiki and bible) on how to root and flash roms.
Since I did ‘flash clockworkmod recovery’ yesterday..do I need to do it again?
Can any one direct me to a step by step process on flashing the Axura Rom.
I guess it’s the fear of the unknown while flashing for the very first time.
Thanks
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The only other thing you need to do, is put the Axura2257.zip (Or whatever it's name is) on the INTERNAL memory card & flash via clockwork Mod or Rom Manager
sorry..a noob here and it might be a stupid question: Can I also use ODIN to flash the rom? I feel I would be more comfortable working through ODIN.
sLiKK said:
sorry..a noob here and it might be a stupid question: Can I also use ODIN to flash the rom? I feel I would be more comfortable working through ODIN.
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Im telling you!, its less the hassle and way easier to do it through Clockwork Mod
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Just make sure you have two files on your 16g internal memory - Update.zip and the Axura.zip(can be named anything other than Update.zip for obvious reasons) file.
Reboot the phone into recovery. If it's blue then hit reinstall packages until it turns green with more options. This may take two times so don't freak if it's still blue after the first, just do it again.
Once in the green recovery go to install file from SD and select the Axura.zip file. Agree to everything and let it run it's course. Once done hit reboot now and enjoy.
thanks guys. just flashed Axura 2.2.5.7 ROM without any hiccups for the first time
Now need to restore apps and settings
Now one more question: What is voodoo and what is the benefit of enabling it on Axura 2.2.5.7?
sLiKK said:
thanks guys. just flashed Axura 2.2.5.7 ROM without any hiccups for the first time
Now need to restore apps and settings
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Woah.. Were you on Android 2.1? Don't restore settings if you were.
Voodoo just converts to EXT4 (Which is faster)
Yes i was on 2.1. I read your post after i had started restoring all apps and data. i turned off my phone when i read this post. how can i get my data stored if not settings?
sLiKK said:
Yes i was on 2.1. I read your post after i had started restoring all apps and data. i turned off my phone when i read this post. how can i get my data stored if not settings?
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You can't to my knowlege... 2.1 & 2.2 are very different, and if you restore the settings & apps then there are going to be allot of problems.. I would just reflash it and manually setup the settings this time, and then backup everything up for the next ROM you choose..
that sucks. I have alot of apps (around 70/80). I had customized settings on them. Its sad not being able to restore those apps and their settings. I can do with system settings.
But overall thanks alot for a great phone experiences. its extremely snappy now and im loving my phone again hehe...
Two things from my experience.
1. You should be able to restore all your apps you backed up in Titanium Backup as it seems to be able to tell what apps won't work with Froyo. You'll see them with a line through them in Titanium. Just restore missing apps with data using the batch feature. Do not restore the one with + all system data.
Then go to Backup/Restore at the top and scroll down to green [SMS/MMS/APN] Dialer Storage and click that and restore it too (this is your text messages). You must restart your phone now for it all to take effect.
2. After you complete #1 - Hit up the market for Voodoo Toggle Reboot app (free). Once it's open you can Enable/Disable Voodoo with it. Click it if it's not green and then hit Reboot Now to activate it. You'll hear Linda talking to you while voodoo installs which may take a bit so don't worry.
Voodoo changes the file system to ext4 which is way faster and very stable. Your phone will fly with it.
You will have to setup new settings for everything else this time, but if you use Launcher Pro you'll be able to backup your desktop settings for next time. Once you get everything the way you like it, backup with Launcher Pro and then with Titanium Backup for next time.
Make sure you don't flash anything else through clockwork with voodoo active unless the Dev says it's ok to do so. An example would be when Axura 2.2.5.8 comes out it'll probably be ok to flash without messing with voodoo (crosses fingers).
good afternoon,
I'm going to install a new stock rom on my ace.
Which kind of back up I have to do before?
the total one - user apps + system data or just the user apps?
thanks for your help
coluichepensa said:
good afternoon,
I'm going to install a new stock rom on my ace.
Which kind of back up I have to do before?
the total one - user apps + system data or just the user apps?
thanks for your help
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I do a full backup most of the time
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For me because I switch roms I only select the user apps that I use across all roms.
user apps and data - unless your sticking with the same mod - then apps+sys and data.
Also suggest you freeze market updater unless you like the new market
I suggest you read the manual first because TB does a LOT more than backup a hell of a lot more
TB only works once a rom is installed - if you want to restore a rom complete after a system failure install clockworkmod 4.0.0.9 then chainfires CWM and create a nandroid back and place it on the SD. Then if something bad happens goto recovery and restore the nandroid backup from the SD.
Have fun.
Baracs said:
user apps and data - unless your sticking with the same mod - then apps+sys and data.
Also suggest you freeze market updater unless you like the new market
I suggest you read the manual first because TB does a LOT more than backup a hell of a lot more
TB only works once a rom is installed - if you want to restore a rom complete after a system failure install clockworkmod 4.0.0.9 then chainfires CWM and create a nandroid back and place it on the SD. Then if something bad happens goto recovery and restore the nandroid backup from the SD.
Have fun.
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is there a detailed guide on how to make a nandroid back?
coluichepensa said:
is there a detailed guide on how to make a nandroid back?
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Go to clockworkmod recovery->backup and restore->Backup.
It will approx tk 5mins.
CyanogenMod 7.1-cooper-KANG-RC1 Android 2.3.7
Firmware: 2.3.4 KPH
Overclocked @ 921Mhz
Dta2sd: enabled
8gb class 2 + 1gb ext4 partition
domnic79 said:
Go to clockworkmod recovery->backup and restore->Backup.
It will approx tk 5mins.
CyanogenMod 7.1-cooper-KANG-RC1 Android 2.3.7
Firmware: 2.3.4 KPH
Overclocked @ 921Mhz
Dta2sd: enabled
8gb class 2 + 1gb ext4 partition
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I've done it.
It was very easy.
thanks again
quick question- there are certain ROMs i like but i absolutely cannot stand the stock 2.3.6 browser (overscroll and no axis-locked scrolling) so i stay away from them. and i've tried all the well-known browsers available in the market and don't really like those either.
i love the stock 2.3.4 browser though like the one found in unnamed 2.2.1.
if i wanted to flash a ROM that didn't use the 2.3.4 browser, how do i replace the browser apks?
i can see where the browser apks are if i look at the zip files in just the standard file explorer in windows 7. can i just copy and paste to switch them or is there something more complex that needs to be done?
thanks
hurley81388 said:
quick question- there are certain ROMs i like but i absolutely cannot stand the stock 2.3.6 browser (overscroll and no axis-locked scrolling) so i stay away from them. and i've tried all the well-known browsers available in the market and don't really like those either.
i love the stock 2.3.4 browser though like the one found in unnamed 2.2.1.
if i wanted to flash a ROM that didn't use the 2.3.4 browser, how do i replace the browser apks?
i can see where the browser apks are if i look at the zip files in just the standard file explorer in windows 7. can i just copy and paste to switch them or is there something more complex that needs to be done?
thanks
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You can just copy and paste the browser into a cwm flashable zip and then flash it. Nothing fancy. Just make sure the zip contained the browser before you pasted it
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Or just replace the browser Apk in the system/app folder with root explorer or Astro file manager and reboot the phone.
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thanks for the replies everyone- i'll change the browser apk in the zip file and flash the ROM to see if that works first.
another question about nandroid backup- i'm running rooted stock 2.3.4 with DD 1/2 kernel right now. i just created a nandroid of this image.
i'm thinking about trying out a few of the new ROMs that have popped up recently. if i decide i don't like any of them and want to revert to this nandroid, do i have to return to stock first or can i restore the image even while running a custom ROM?
and if i can just directly restore without having to revert to stock, do i wipe cache and dalvik before doing the nandroid restore? thanks!
hurley81388 said:
thanks for the replies everyone- i'll change the browser apk in the zip file and flash the ROM to see if that works first.
another question about nandroid backup- i'm running rooted stock 2.3.4 with DD 1/2 kernel right now. i just created a nandroid of this image.
i'm thinking about trying out a few of the new ROMs that have popped up recently. if i decide i don't like any of them and want to revert to this nandroid, do i have to return to stock first or can i restore the image even while running a custom ROM?
and if i can just directly restore without having to revert to stock, do i wipe cache and dalvik before doing the nandroid restore? thanks!
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You don't have to do any thing, just restore the nandroid backup and your phone will be back exactly as it was during the backup time, except for your sdcard
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thanks guys. i'm successfully making nandroid backups using the CWM version 5.0.2.7 that comes with DD 1/2. however, even after mounting the SD card it keeps saving these backups to the internal memory in the CWM folder.
i know there is an issue with this version of CWM mis-identifying the internal card as the external and vice-versa.
how can i make nandroid back-ups directly to the external sd card and restore them from the external sd card?
i can copy and paste the back-ups directly to the external SD card but i don't think CWM is recognizing the external SD card as a location that back-ups can be saved to.
EDIT: nevermind, just saw there was an option to backup to internal sd card which is actually the external sd card. don't know how i missed that before