Sorry for creating a new threat but I have searched on forum but there is no solution.
I have a USB keyboard ( a flexible USB keyboard) but it does not work on my archos 70 8G, I think it requires over 100mA. So I try some kernels made by Sibere but all kernels I found are for the 1.1 uruk droid, but my device is running 1.5.1
So any helps, thank so much
Sorry for my English
guy u are lazy!!!!
plz use the search function next time or at least read the last 2 pages of the relating tread (UD Dev Thread)
meanwhile try this and read his signature !!!
or consider updating to 1.6RC1 and use this.
Further questions in DEV Thread plz.
CLOSE PLZ
first of all, thank for ur respone. As I said before, I have searched I tried all the kernel of sibere and all were not work (some even did not boot). Because I really need it now, so I created a new threat. Is there any other methods? Please help me.
Ups thats something completely different to:
>So I try some kernels made by Sibere but all kernels I found are for the 1.1 uruk droid, but my device is running 1.5.1
This sounded more like you just didnt found any Kernel for 1.5.1. (or u tested some 1.1 Kernels at 1.5.1)
Im still not sure what exactly u did...
Anyway with the new information - if the device doesnt boot up u need a non-OC Kernel as your device doesnt seem to like the overclocking (mine doesnt either and wont boot up)
Im not sure if sibere released a non-OC Kernel with just his patches for 1.5.1 - you should contact him via pm.
Still this is UD related and belongs to the Dev Thread - as he realeases all Kernels there and even the "new one" u need will propably be released there.
Im sure u need it now - but if anyone creates threads over and over even there is one already we end up in a mess here...
As far as i know there is no other method atm as the maximum current is limited by the Kernel (and as far as i know just for the 70 series not for the 101)
1 last thing - are u sure its you Keyboard needing more then 100mA!?!?! A Keyboard shouldn't need more then 50-80 mA imho - just what I estimate. There is nothing wich would take that much current... its just a microcontroler with many "switches" and those dont really "take" current. Or is it a fully lighted keyboard like this?
Just HD's need more current as they got a permanent spinning engine inside,... and even most of those just need more then 100mA for the initial spin up and need less later.
An alternate solution is to use a powered USB hub between the archos and the keyboard. The keyboard will get its power from the power supply of the USB hub.
Here is my USB keyboard and USB adapter
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I have tried all the kernel of sibere (1.1 and 1.5.1) but none works. The Sibere_Kernel_UD.zip kernel makes my device not booting and now I flash the Sibere_Kernel_UD_1.5.zip but I still can not use my USB keyboard. Is it necessary to activate any app or turn any function to use a external USB keyboard when connecting?
I have tried a 4GB USB and it work perfectly. Is there any wrong with my USB keyboard? (I still can use it with my laptop)
Sorry for my English.
i think its quite hard to help u if we have to pull out any information of u
1. now I see the keyboard but i still dont know if it has backlight/ what product it is...
2. "dont work" is a crappy definition of telling others about a problem
tell us
2.1 is there ANY reaction form the archos?
2.2 are the lights (numlock,..) of the keyboard on if u plug it in
2.3 plug the flexible keyboard in - open "terminal" - get superuser rights (type "su") - type "lsusb" (all of those without " ofc) - what is the output?
3 Did u try pluging in another keybaod (try your normal pc keyboard - if u have one) is it working?
As far as i know i just pluged in the reciever of my mediacenter-keyboard and mouse and keyboard were working instantly - but i got an 101... can tell anything about the host cable thing.
There is no any reaction from the archos and light from the keyboard (but a USB mouse has light but does not work too). I bought this keyboard in a promotion so I dont know what product it is.
I tried 2 USB mouses and 2 USB keyboards and all are not working.
This is the output of terminal:
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 227d:0797
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
That outputs are the same when connect with a USB mouse. And I try a USB storage and here I have
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 227d:0797
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 090c:1000 Feiya Technology Corp. Flash Drive
Thank for ur helps
Maybe simply because this kb model is not supported by the kernel...
Sent from my HTC Desire with DATA2SD
If so I have to give up and lock for a powered USB hub or an other keyboard
Anyway, thank for help
sibere said:
Maybe simply because this kb model is not supported by the kernel...
Sent from my HTC Desire with DATA2SD
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Y accoring to lsusb this might be the answer - but if he tested 2 mice 2 keyboards + this one and all dont work im not realy sure if the answer is that simple...
And still there should be ANY output on lsusb - shouldn't it !??!
Even if the kernel can't load a module/driver for the device the vendor codes should be listed... (k im no linux expert perhaps someone can correct me)
Especialy casue I thought todays USB keyboards all use the same method in registering as a default HID device?!?!
Anyway i still don't think its a current related problem - but hey cmon how unlucky someone can be owning 5 standard devices not being compatibe?
EDIT:
I just pluged in a device i NEVER expected my archos to have any modules for,... (a TELLSTICK - usb stick for controling light remotes) and even there lsusb shows me the PID/VID with "Multiple Vendors" as name - so the problem should really be something else... (k I got a 101 - might be a 70 problem only?)
If u really go buy another now - go to your local store - take your device with u and ask for testing it out! Or u might be disappointed again...
BTW: did u EVER try it our on archos stock firmare? - if not boot into it and try again plz - repeat the lsusb for all 5 devices and report if there is any output (just the last line is of interest the first 3 are the usbhosts + the camera perhaps)
Does the HD really work properly if plugged in? test it! DO you have any device woking properly with your cable?
EDIT 2:
Do some research yourself plz googeling for "archos host cable mouse" gave me several links to problems also for people with having problems with mice,... some menitoned about wrong soldered usb host cables also,...
Here its mentioned about a intelli mouse not working with 1 cable but woring with others,...
The problem seems to be more complicated tho - also it was mentioned about some devices just working with a usb hub between while others dont work with a hub in between - get a powered hub (ask a friend?) and test it out
good luck guy
HID is added to all my recent builds
Code:
Say Y here if you want full HID support to connect USB keyboards, |
| mice, joysticks, graphic tablets, or any other HID based devices |
| to your computer via USB,
But if your KB requires more than 400mA, there is no chance for it work straignt from the USB port.
All the greedy devices I have tried on my A70IT worked but they were only USB keys or wireless mouse controllers. I never tried a KB.
I don't have a A101 so I can't try on this device.
I got this KB occasionally so I did not made any testing. Maybe I will try another KB like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQTEeO2sj-g
That device is a Chinese one but I appreciate its KB case and it costs ~20USD.
I think it's time to close topic. Thank so much guys
well 1 last advice - as u will buy it via ebay propably - watch the rathings of the seller for your product - i recently was about to buy such one - but many ppl complained about: bad quality, the case not even fitting the device (power button got permanently pressed while it was in case), and several other things
good luck guy
UPDATE:
hey just searched for it again. seems some sellers have an updated version now - avoiding the power pressing - be sure to get one of those !
No, Im not going to buy it via ebay, because ebay is not supported in my country so It's a big disadvantage I guess. Im gonna buy it at a retail store so I can test it before purchasing. That KB case is the only one I can find near my region so maybe it is hopeless.
In addition, my A70IT usually appears black screen error and Im really mad because of it. I had install the SupperDim 1.52 but It seem to be the same. Maybe in a near future, I should sell my A70IT and think about another Android tablet.
PS: This is the one Im locking for http://fusiongarage.com/grid-10/features
Oh y i also have the blackscreen issue sometimes - but it seems better since I use superdim atm (even it didn't feel different in begin - but itsworking fine atm).
But im still searching the real reason for it - as i even had it with non-dimmed screen...
Anyway I hope we'll get it fixed soon - then im completely happy with my 101.
Hm the device looks nice (a bit win8ish casue of the grid view)- but also just 512 RAM
(its the main reason for me not to buy a gen9 atm - 265MB was to less for gen8 - and 512MB soon will be to less for gen9 i think)
The price seems quite "normal" like the gen9,...
But they just ship to germany atm as it seems (hey I could get one - but i dont have the money atm)
good luck with testing your keyboard...
Yes I love that device's design and it's strange-looking screen. I usually use my A70IT in study so 512 RAM is enough for me and the most important thing is the battery. I wonder how much mA the A70IT's battery is?
kiemthu123 said:
Yes I love that device's design and it's strange-looking screen. I usually use my A70IT in study so 512 RAM is enough for me and the most important thing is the battery. I wonder how much mA the A70IT's battery is?
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the A70IT has 256Mb of RAM and a 3850mAh battery.
Thank for ur information. This Grid10 has 512RAM and 5800mA Battery and the price is not expensive. I will go and have a keyboard test on this Sunday, It everything does not go well, I will sell my A70IT. It is really annoying with the dark screen issue
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I have been searching lately and haven't found anything . Is
there a way to use a 7" Android Tablet (rooted Nook Color
running CM7 ) as a graphics tablet for pc? Such as the ones
made by Wacom where you can see what you are drawing
on the tablet and on the pc screen. I know you could
technically use a remote desktop program but that's awfully
laggy. I was hoping there may be a way to use the usb cable
to plug up the tablet to the computer and simply use it as a
editable surface to draw on .
If this is obvious, I 'm sorry. I have just been thinking about
this a lot as I currently own a Bamboo Fun tablet as well but
I' d like to see more detail on the tablet itself.
I tried iDisplay and it 's too laggy. A usb method would
be optimal and I figured since I'm rooted someone may
have figured something out ...
Also, I have USB hosting active on the tablet if thats
necessary.
I know it has come up before (about 6 months ago from my searches) and was wondering if anything has happened at all. I would prefer that I have the option of extending my screen (for entertainment) or duplicating it (for art work)
Me too
I wish I was bringing you an answers but instead, I'm asking the same question. Every few weeks I scour the web for an alternative to iDisplay, specifically something that is wired for speed. I travel over half the year and I'm in the habit of lugging a small monitor with me so I can work efficiently. I know Toshiba has a portable usb monitor...isn't there a way to make our tablet's function this way as well?
If there is anything out there to try/buy or support? I'm in. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks for putting your name on the list! I have been looking everywhere for something that could work with no luck. It doesn't seem like it should be hard to tap into the screen of a tablet through usb. Especially seeing as we have the drivers and what not.
Tapping into the monitor would be nice but to take it a step further, integration would be optimal. Such as the integration of the two touchscreens in the acer notebook. Your android device could be used as a virtual navigation device, you could use it to hold windows or play media, or you could even use it in art related programs as a drawing tablet.
It seems like there should be a bigger demand for this. I'm surprised there isn't
I've been interested in developing stuff like this for a while now, but unfortunately, I just haven't found the time to devote to such Android development.
For this to work, your PC would be acting as the USB host. The tablet would still just be a USB device connected to your PC like it always is (you would not be using your tablet as a hosting device for this). The PC would need the proper driver software (which, as noted, already exists). But software on the tablet would also have to advertise and implement additional usb profiles/protocols in order to inform the host that it has additional USB monitor/touchscreen functionality. This is the part that to my knowledge, does not yet exist. (if it does, let me know, ya'll may have done more research on this than I have)
In other words, yeah, there are drivers for a PC that know how to talk to a usb monitor/touchscreen. But on the other end there needs to be software that knows how to act as a usb monitor/touchscreen and fulfill the other half of that conversation. When you buy a usb monitor/touchscreen from Wacom or Toshiba, they're providing a device which already knows how to act and talk as a usb monitor/touchscreen. But that software is running on their device, so unless they've made some libraries available somewhere or there are some standard libraries available somewhere for this, it isn't as easy as one might think.
This might make more sense if you consider a simpler device like a usb keyboard. Your PC knows how to receive keystrokes from a usb keyboard because it has the appropriate driver software. However, if you wanted your tablet to act as a usb keyboard, you would need software on the tablet that knows how to send keystrokes over USB using the standard usb protocols/profiles.
Hope that makes sense.
~Troop
WM8505 Generic Chinese Android Tablet
CPU VIA WM8505 400MHZ ARM926EJ-S
Memory DDR2 128MB
HDD 2GB
Screen Size 7 inch TFT High Clear DigitalScreen
Resolution 800*480; 262,114 colors
It's running a modded Android 1.6. I'm just wonderign if anyone knows if it's possible to use this as a USB monitor. Or even remove the screen to mod it to be used as a USB monitor. I don't care if it's touchscreen or not.
Hi,this accessory is compatible with the sk17 mini pro ???
usb2HDMI
is very good but i do not idea if is compatible with SK17...
regards
I dont think so. A smartphone does not have the ability to install drivers for external devices.
ok,think same,but, how nokia have this technology and Android not ???
nokia have this accessory with symbian 3,how is possible it ???
the nokia N8 by example with de "Usb on the go" conect this accessory like mass storage usb.
android will have some app for this ???
regards
Yea but it isnt a mass storage device now, is it?
You can buy it and try it, although i highly doubt that it will work.
I think the phone needs to support MHL if I remember correctly and I don't think that the sk17i supports it.
Edit: just checked the link and it also says MHL so forget my post.
Sent from my SK17i using XDA App
I asked for TV-out some weeks ago, and today i saw this:
-> http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Does any of these hdmi cables work with xperia mini???
Has anyone tried it?
To this kind of adapter work, the phone need the MHL circuit in your microUsb. The mhl cable from Accel have the analogix slim port technology.
I asked to Sony support and they say what the xperia mini and mini pro don't have mhl circuit, but if you have a friend with the cable and the device, try, is like think outside the box you know .
GregórioAxiaMagno said:
To this kind of adapter work, the phone need the MHL circuit in your microUsb. The mhl cable from Accel have the analogix slim port technology.
I asked to Sony support and they say what the xperia mini and mini pro don't have mhl circuit, but if you have a friend with the cable and the device, try, is like think outside the box you know .
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Sony Support persons Dont know anything ..they r just like puppets ..they only tell u the features which we see in their website and not more than that...
Few weeks ago i asked them about usb devices attached to my xperia mini pro they said Ur mobile noot support this .then i bought cable from ebay and today i recieved the cable ..
It support Wired keyboard ,,mouse and also wireless (tested today with mine microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse combo)...
Now Finding the way to use storage drive on phone...
Bro u have to take risk by purchasing that cable
According to me it should work
hijagdeep said:
Sony Support persons Dont know anything ..they r just like puppets ..they only tell u the features which we see in their website and not more than that...
Few weeks ago i asked them about usb devices attached to my xperia mini pro they said Ur mobile noot support this .then i bought cable from ebay and today i recieved the cable ..
It support Wired keyboard ,,mouse and also wireless (tested today with mine microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse combo)...
Now Finding the way to use storage drive on phone...
Bro u have to take risk by purchasing that cable
According to me it should work
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Nice.
Yeap I totally agree with you, support haven't knowledge enough for this case for example. And this is the reason about say "think outside the box". Well mhl in Brazil is something what exist like unicorns, only on web. The only one I've found is the official for Samsung Galaxy, but here a bit expensive (I mean 11% of all I earn per month) in comparison with other cables outside the country. I'm searching where I can test on the store or find someone what have.
Regards.
hijagdeep said:
Sony Support persons Dont know anything ..they r just like puppets ..they only tell u the features which we see in their website and not more than that...
Few weeks ago i asked them about usb devices attached to my xperia mini pro they said Ur mobile noot support this .then i bought cable from ebay and today i recieved the cable ..
It support Wired keyboard ,,mouse and also wireless (tested today with mine microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse combo)...
Now Finding the way to use storage drive on phone...
Bro u have to take risk by purchasing that cable
According to me it should work
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using storage drive on the phone is easy.. but need to be rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25775730&postcount=46
urra901109 said:
using storage drive on the phone is easy.. but need to be rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25775730&postcount=46
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Not able to root my phone
i have xperia mini pro with 2.3.4 android version build number .62
I searched every forum there is not any way discovered till now to root .62 firmware
Did u know any way to root .62 firmware ..
Update:
Succesfuly Root my xperia mini pro but able to get suucees in using storage device
Just googling around:
http://ubercable.com.au/product_info.php/mhl-hdmi-cable-suits-some-xperia-arc-neo-models-p-360
http://ubercable.com.au/product_info.php/mhl-hdmi-adapter-suits-some-xperia-arc-neo-models-p-359
See the description, I think is fake info.
MHL to hdmi
A friend of mine will buy a MHL to hdmi cable, I will ask him the cable to try if the sk17 work with it but I do not have too much hope it will work
edgar0204 said:
A friend of mine will buy a MHL to hdmi cable, I will ask him the cable to try if the sk17 work with it but I do not have too much hope it will work
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Welcome to a big club , let's stop this pain and face the truth . I'm waiting for your feedback and we can end this. But be happy, we can wait for xBounds .
EDIT: { I know what you need plug the power cable in the adapter, plug the hdmi in the adapter and tv, and the usb in the mobile, so you must wait something like 5 or 10 minutes or a lil more, in mhl mobiles the delay exists also. Try to see if something happens in Service Menu > HDMI }
EDIT2: { expectation... haha}
And the feedback is....
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This screenshot is taken from my Xperia mini's service menu...
I think actually even in Xperia mini can HDMI-out but just no port for us to do it....
sss2sssss said:
This screenshot is taken from my Xperia mini's service menu...
I think actually even in Xperia mini can HDMI-out but just no port for us to do it....
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Yes, see my latest post on this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1590353
And we wanna know if mhl is not here on mini.
That HDMI menu is on all phones, however we believe there is no way to make it work as hardware is not built for that.
Yes, I read somwehere that't a specifici circuitry on the USB port is required.
But it's weird that my service menu doesn't report "missing mhl circuit" just like it reports "missing temperature sensor" or "missing pressure sensor".
Hey Guys
First post here....
I am looking for info on how to set up a Xbox 360 wired (USB) controller on my Motorola Photon 4g. While searching around, i came to the conclusion that i'll need a Kernel that supports USG OTG or USB Host Mode, and, i think in theory,
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15806590/diagram2.png (also attached)
the above diagram should work. (Courtesy [Guide] USB Gaming on Nexus S Thread )
The problems are
i) my photon is on its way home, so i cant test anything here atleast for the next 3-4 days.
ii) I do not know of a kernel compatible with photon that supports USB Host mode.
iii) in the above diagram, the supply from the USB charger/Adapter goes to both the Phone's USB, as well as the Controller's USB power lines. Would that not be a problem for the phone? i mean why should i be inputting +5V on the power lines of the phone's USB? could it potentially damage the phone? I've played with an iPod's USB, and i am scared.
Can u guys help me in the points above?
P.S the above image was taken from Nexus S USB Gaming Thread on xda forums.
Also, i wont be buying a 99USD HD Docking Station to use the Controller or other Peripherals.
Regards
USB Host is not the issue as the Photon supports USB Host out of the box so any blur based rom should work just fine. Not sure about the CM7 or CM9 family of roms. I remember having to push pretty hard just to get BT mouse support for CM7 on the Evo.
The main issue you will run into is driver support for the controller. The XBox controller gives a device not recognized. PC controllers may be hit or miss but I've tried four or five with no success. Your best options are WIImote w/ classic controller or PS3 controller running over Bluetooth. If cost is a concern then look at off brand WII and PS3 controllers or get one used.
Another thing you will need to consider is game support. You would think a game like Galaxy on Fire 2 would support controllers but it does not. Only a handful of games support controller input directly the rest require custom input mapping and third party apps like "Sixaxis Controller" or "Wiimote Controller", to name a few. You will also find that proper analog mapping is generally limited to pay apps and when using the controller it acts as you input for the phone and not just games.
I guess I could put together a "Photon as game console" guide but am a bit buried in projects right now.
@Lokifish Marz,
does that mean even in USB Host Mode, the Photon 4G would require Device Drivers to be ported for android first and then it'll be able to work with the device? Its a little strange because i have read a lot on these forums, and none pointed out that we needed any drivers, all the posts said was that USB OTG/ USB Host Mode is required. (all the Nexus S gaming threads just ask one to install a particular kernel having USB Host Support, which the Photon already has, and plus an app in market namely USB Host Controller by SzTupY)
Game support ofcourse has been taken in mind.A few Tegra 2 games support Controllers, i mean the ones that actually need a controller (as in it would be better to play them with a controller)
Apart from the drivers (which with all due respect to u, i need to be reassured about, because of what i have read in the posts, plus, on other Android phones, specially the Nexus S, people have reported other Controllers working too) what about the Schematic diagram i made above? would it work fine according to you?
Please don't mind if i said anything offensive in the post, i respect all you are doing for the projects you are working on, especially the photon projects and u must be knowing way better than me
Regards
Plug an XBox360 controller into the USB port on a lapdock or HD Dock. Result, "USB Device not recognized. Supported devices includes USB Storage, keyboards and mice." In short, no drivers. If you see somebody using a usb controller on a phone, pay close attention to the phone that's being used. Example, the GS III is a freak of nature. I'd kill for 500GB external drive support.
Different phones support different things. The original Nexus had a mod that allowed for use of usb graphics cards. The original Evo's hardware supported usb host but drivers were never written for it.
Again, your best and most trouble free option is a bluetooth controller.
If it helps give you an idea as to where I'm coming from. I've been trying to get a phone/tabletdock/lapdock/mediapc/carpc/gameconsole built since about 2003 so I feel your pain.
@Loki
Would a build of CM9 help me getting the controller working? i mean the CM9 beta builds or CM7.2 ? as i already have a Wired controller, i'd want support for that only.
plus what can be some other controllers supported?
Now i want the Photon 4G gaming guide u know....I bet everyone who has a Photon would be glad if u make one.
Regards
psgarcha92 said:
plus what can be some other controllers supported?
Regards
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I believe he already answered this when he said to use bluetooth controllers. Use a p3 or a wii controller.
@rexxxgg
when i asked him what others are supported, i meant what controllers else than the PS3 bluetooth and the WIImote controller are supported. On IM it was clarified that any Generic/non Sony but -for PS3- controller should be working fine with this phone, and that was what i was precisely asking.
Introduction
Together with many other Android Mini PCs, also Minix decided to release an up-to-date device with many interesting features, most of them exclusive from this Company. This is an huge upgrade of their previous Minix X8-H Plus, only the Chassis hasn’t been redesigned.
This is the Minix NEO U1 Media Hub
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Most of you will receive two packages when you order it, the Minix NEO U1 Package and the Minix A2 Lite (Air Mouse/Keyboard) package.
NEO U1 package comes with many accessories: 1x HDMI Cable, 1x Power Supply (5V/3A), 1x WiFi Antenna, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Micro-USB OTG Cable, 1x Remote Control (no Air Mouse), 1x Multi-Language Setup Guide, 1x Product Brochure and the Mini PC (of course).
No Air Mouse/Keyboard is included in the main package, but the Minix A2 Lite Air Mouse/Keyboard is provided separately without any Extra Cost. Just two different packages.
The NEO A2 Lite is absolutely a great Air Mouse/Keyboard, it feels pretty Solid and it doesn’t weight much too. I just don’t like the noise produced when Keys are pressed, unlike standard Remote Controls. It works also on other devices such as standard Desktop PCs or anything else that has a USB Port and supports Mouse/Keyboard input.
Device
About Design, the Chassis is plastic made and it has a kind of rubberized surface, this is what makes the device look so opaque. Heat Dissipation isn’t impacted though, so don’t worry even if this isn’t made of Metal.
It is as compact as most of all Mini PCs, just 12.8x12.8x2.3 and it is also lightweight enough.
As specified before, the whole surface (except the lower side) is kind of rubberized. On the Upper Side there is just a big brand logo (pretty cool, not printed), nothing else. Absolutely clean.
On the front side there is the IR Receiver (required to use the included Remote Control) and a Blue Power LED.
On the left, there is just 1x Wi-Fi Antenna Connector but the Second Antenna is internal, fixed to the upper side of the chassis. (2x2 RX/TX Wi-Fi Adapter)
On the right, there are 3x Standard USB 2.0 Ports, 1x micro SD Card slot, 1x Kensington Lock, 1x Micro-USB Connector (used for OTG or to connect the device to a PC) and a Power Button.
USB Ports are well designed here, you won’t have any kind of problem even with big USB Sticks. Well Done Minix!
The rear features separate Headphone/Microphone Jacks (like PCs), 1x HDMI port, 1x SPDIF port, 1x LAN 10/100/1000 port (Yes, Gigabit Ethernet), and 1x 5.5mm DC in.
On the lower side there isn’t anything at all, absolutely clean.
Testing
Using latest available System Software, I didn’t managed to find any performance issue. Android is always smooth, it doesn’t hang at all neither it feels extremely customized so that Stock Android experience would have been somehow impacted. It is just AOSP, with minor customization required to use the Mini PC in the best way possible, nothing extra except the Minix Launcher & Settings. There are also some third-party apps installed such as ES File Manager. Not a lot though.
Minix Settings app is complete and comfortable to use. Nearly required if you plan to use only the Remote Control.
If you don’t like Minix Settings, or if you need something that is missing, you can still open the Standard Android Settings.
The built-in Wi-Fi Adapter is super fast; it supports 2x2 config. so I managed to get connected to my 5GHz Home Network (using a Netgear R6300v2) at nearly maximum speed even if signal wasn’t extremely good. I don’t have a super fast internet connection, so I won’t be able to show you an useful speed test, but I can just say the results weren’t different than the ones recorded on my Desktop PC.
This device is powered by an Amlogic S905 CPU supported by an ARM Mali-450MP GPU. Even if the GPU isn’t a last-gen version, it still performs pretty well. I’ll talk about performance on next paragraph.
Latest available OTA Update is based still based on Android 5.1 Lollipop, maybe in the future it will be update to Android 6.0 Marshmallow or even better Android N, but I think that there isn’t any need yet to upgrade it.
I have tested some USB Sticks, and all were recognized without any compatibility issue. This is a test with a 64GB USB Stick formatted with NTFS File System.
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark (Ice Storm, Ice Storm Unlimited, Ice Storm Extreme), A1 SD Bench, Antutu Benchmark, Antutu Video Tester (for Video Playback), Epic Citadel, GeekBench 3, AndroBench, PCMark (Work) and Vellamo (Browser & CPU Tests) to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark
Ice Storm
Ice Storm Unlimited
Ice Storm Extreme
Almost all Tests managed to reach more or less 30 FPS, the minimum limit required for a smooth Gaming experience, so it is pretty good considering that the built-in GPU isn’t extremely powerful.
A1 SD Bench & AndroBench – Internal eMMC performance is mediocre, not so much fast but neither so much slow. Powerful enough for an Android Mini-PC.
Antutu Benchmark – Result nearly equal to other CPUs with 4x Cortex-A53. As you can see 3D is the lower score. This is where the age of GPU can have a negative impact.
GeekBench – I must admit that there is something wrong for sure because the score is lower than other worse CPUs (no throttling here, the device was cold) so I think that built-in kernel needs to be optimized a lot to get the maximum from this nice CPU. Minix, take a look at this benchmark’s score.
Epic Citadel – As you can see, Gaming experience won’t be impacted even if the built-in GPU is old, you can enjoy your games without any issue at all.
PCMark – Decent score here, you can use this device also for Office & Web apps in the best way possible.
Vellamo – This is another complete BenchMark Suite, as you can see Browser performance is near to Nexus 5, i’m pretty sure that this will be improved with the next updates. CPU Performance (Single & Multi) is again, similar to Nexus 5, and as I said before, Minix should work a bit on the Kernel to improve CPU performance.
Browser
CPU
Antutu Video Tester – Used to test Video Playback capabilities. All types of Videos are played without any issue, neither there is any compatibility issue. It seems that Minix has optimized this device especially for Video Playback. (“Media Hub” says all)
Kodi (ex KBMC) – I know, this isn’t a Benchmark Suite but I have tested it (it was also preinstalled) to see if it is working in a smooth way in order to use this device as a Media Center, and I can say that it is as smooth as it is on my Desktop PC.
Conclusions
Well, it is hard to say if this is something that you should buy or not, because the not-so-good GPU Performance and the low CPU Performance related to poor Kernel optimization don’t offer the performance that you would expect, but actually it is hard to find a better ARM-Based Mini PC. This is one of the most complete available and offers continuous Manufacturer OTA Updates (unlike some other Chinese Brands), so...do I recommend it?
The reply is: Yes, unless you want to spend almost 4x the price of this device to build your own HTPC or you prefer an x86 Mini PC with Windows.
Official Specs
Rating: 8.5
Packaging and Accessories: 10
Design and Materials: 8
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 7.5
Software: 9
Price: 8 (based on Amazon.it price)
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/CBAIT
Official Website: http://minix.com.hk/en/products/neo-u1
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Thanks for your review.
Minix is the best TV box brand, and Amlogic SoC is the best TV Box solution from my opinion.
20160415 OTA Update has been released with some nice improvements. Remember to update your Mini PC
If you have modified your device and you are now facing issues, just follow this post on the Official Minix forum to restore it: http://www.minixforum.com/threads/neo-u1-full-system-image-reflashing-guide.10046/
Hi guys,
I would like to know if this player could do audio (and HD audio) passthrough.
I want to connect the player to my AVR and get DD, DTS, TrueHD, and DTS HD audio. Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
pel
pel.hu said:
Hi guys,
I would like to know if this player could do audio (and HD audio) passthrough.
I want to connect the player to my AVR and get DD, DTS, TrueHD, and DTS HD audio. Is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
pel
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Source: cnx-software
I have a question for you all, have you tried to use native 3D format on this device?
Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
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Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
Toufinious said:
Hi Guys
I'm a Neo U1 owner here.
I've been checking the interwebz and would just like to know your opinion on the xbox 360 - genuine and non genuine AND wireless and wired - controllers.
Can anyone assist me or just give me some info
Thanks
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You mean how they work with the NEO U1?
Alberto96 said:
You mean how they work with the NEO U1?
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yup .
Just got back from the Minixforums and it seems that any old wired xbox 360 controller will work (that is genuine and "generic")
as for wireless controllers... it seems that the genuine Microsoft wireless receiver is required in order for it to work
Hi... I m Minix neo U1 user. How to root minix neo u1? Because i used droidmote server, and need root acces. Anyone help... Please... Thanks
yoesazel said:
Hi... I m Minix neo U1 user. How to root minix neo u1? Because i used droidmote server, and need root acces. Anyone help... Please... Thanks
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Test this
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...tools-au/543706-root-minix-neo-u1-root-method
or
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...ols-au/544002-new-minix-u1-ez-root-zip-method
Minix NEO U1
Bigjazz2016 said:
Test this
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...tools-au/543706-root-minix-neo-u1-root-method
or
http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player...ols-au/544002-new-minix-u1-ez-root-zip-method
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Thanks for your answer sir... I already try this method. thats is for root Minix U1 doesn't Minix NEO U1? Sorry If i mistakes... Thanks alot
yoesazel said:
Thanks for your answer sir... I already try this method. thats is for root Minix U1 doesn't Minix NEO U1? Sorry If i mistakes... Thanks alot
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Minix U1 and Minix Neo U1 are the same device
Bigjazz2016 said:
Minix U1 and Minix Neo U1 are the same device
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Ok Sir... I will try.... Thanks for you info
Hello guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me with finding the right way to watch live TV on this box.
I was wondering what people use / recommend. I prefer a user friendly app / emulator.... that my kinds can use without needing help.
Thanks in advance
foxy6800 said:
Hello guys,
I was wondering if someone could help me with finding the right way to watch live TV on this box.
I was wondering what people use / recommend. I prefer a user friendly app / emulator.... that my kinds can use without needing help.
Thanks in advance
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There are tons of options..Kodi being the best along with Terrarium TV, and SET TV....google and you tube would prob be the easiest...none of these will be easy for a kid to navigate through though more than likely.
Hi Again Guys... I already done rooted my minix neo u1. Now i want install fiver4android in minix... Any solution to do that? because i already try, and viper4android cannot run properly. Always ask to install drivers, even i already done install that drivers. Anyone help me... Pleaseee... Thanks ( FW 013, rooted, superuser, busybox already there)
Magic earth, Google maps/|earth, Maps.me all find gps location quickly with no issues. But Waze and Sysgic (the 2 nav apps I prefer) cannot find/use gps location data, every time you open them they ask you to enable location services, and link to the setup page where everything is on and appears normal, toggling the settings has no effect, clearing data fall apps launcher/maps etc. no effect. GPS locator free finds my position no problem, GPS Satellite Stats says "gps disabled". Also clicking "maps setting" under applications leads nowhere? any ideas?
scottfree1 said:
Magic earth, Google maps/|earth, Maps.me all find gps location quickly with no issues. But Waze and Sysgic (the 2 nav apps I prefer) cannot find/use gps location data, every time you open them they ask you to enable location services, and link to the setup page where everything is on and appears normal, toggling the settings has no effect, clearing data fall apps launcher/maps etc. no effect. GPS locator free finds my position no problem, GPS Satellite Stats says "gps disabled". Also clicking "maps setting" under applications leads nowhere? any ideas?
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There is no hardware GPS in 3rd/4th gen HDX devices unless equipped with the LTE chip which is rare (you'd know it). The mapping services that show your *approximate* location are likely using Google's fused location service which uses known AP coordinates to estimate actual device location. It works well if near a known AP; completely useless in areas with few/no APs (eg: rural navigation). Service also uses known cell tower locations but that's obviously irrelevant on a typical HDX.
Thanks, had an old hdx and though it could stay useful re-purposed as a gps
Any thoughts on external bluetooth/usb gps's?
I have tried bt tethering to my phone in hope of accessing it's gps but apparently the sharing of a dozen or so numbers between 2 devices is to difficult for me, or is it them? Either way it's NO GPS FOR ME!
If I can find a cheap GlobalSat usb I might do that, I'd hate to an Another obsolete device (gps) to my collection when I already have so many obsolete phones and tables that (in theory at least) should do the job .
scottfree1 said:
Thanks, had an old hdx and though it could stay useful re-purposed as a gps
Any thoughts on external bluetooth/usb gps's?
I have tried bt tethering to my phone in hope of accessing it's gps but apparently the sharing of a dozen or so numbers between 2 devices is to difficult for me, or is it them? Either way it's NO GPS FOR ME!
If I can find a cheap GlobalSat usb I might do that, I'd hate to an Another obsolete device (gps) to my collection when I already have so many obsolete phones and tables that (in theory at least) should do the job .
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Not worth the effort given low cost alternatives. Several have tried including one guy who had a custom mount on his motorcycle is put in a full-fledged effort over several weeks. In the end he had to go with another device. Note you'd have to go the bluetooth route as HDX does not support OTG; usb port can only be used for charging and tethered communication.
Best attributes of this device are the crisp display, general responsiveness with a custom ROM and form factor for reading. Decent audio too. If you can work within that framework it makes a nice gizmo even by today's standards. Push it in another direction and things start to get ugly.
Davey126 said:
Not worth the effort given low cost alternatives. Several have tried including one guy who had a custom mount on his motorcycle is put in a full-fledged effort over several weeks. In the end he had to go with another device. Note you'd have to go the bluetooth route as HDX does not support OTG; usb port can only be used for charging and tethered communication.
Best attributes of this device are the crisp display, general responsiveness with a custom ROM and form factor for reading. Decent audio too. If you can work within that framework it makes a nice gizmo even by today's standards. Push it in another direction and things start to get ugly.
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No otg? Wow, did not realize that, wtf did they just go around de-soldering and pulling wires?
Here's what the Snapdragon 800 chipset supports that they left out
2x USB 3.0
Micro-AB USB OTG
GNSS (GPS and GLONASS)
Networking — gigabit Ethernet
2x SATA
HDMI
And now that my dreams have been crushed a new dream arises from the ashes, here's the snapdragon 810 version I found looking up the specs on the 800, looks like a killer dev for turning into a nas/media server..
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Intrinsyc DragonBoard 64-bit ARM development board technical specs:
SoC – Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 processor with 4x Cortex A57, 4x Cortex A53, Adreno 430 GPU and Hexagon v56 DSP
System Memory – 4GB LPDDR4 RAM
Storage – 16GB eMMC 5.0 flash + 2x SATA + 1 MicroSD card slot
Connectivity – Wi-Fi 802.11n/ac, Bluetooth 3.0/4.1, GNSS (GPS and GLONASS)
Video Output / Display I/F – HDMI, 1x MIPI dual 4-lane DSI + touch panel
USB – 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0 + 1x USB 2.0 micro-AB
Camera I/F – 3x MIPI CSI with support for 3D camera configuration
Expansions
PCI Express Slot with support for Gigabit Ethernet card
4x Expansion headers for additional features, test, and debug
Davey126 said:
Best attributes of this device are the crisp display, general responsiveness with a custom ROM.
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I bricked the first one of these I had hard, first time ever I could not recover from a f'd up flash. So it's been a while, but I seem to remember getting root but not getting any further with the bootloader being locked, and no way to install custom recovery twrp/cyanogen??
scottfree1 said:
I bricked the first one of these I had hard, first time ever I could not recover from a f'd up flash. So it's been a while, but I seem to remember getting root but not getting any further with the bootloader being locked, and no way to install custom recovery twrp/cyanogen??
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Bootloader is now unlockable (has been for awhile); you can probably recover the "bricked" device if stuffed in a drawer somewhere. Battery deterioration is now the Achilles heel of these 2013-2014 vintage devices.
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scottfree1 said:
No otg? Wow, did not realize that, wtf did they just go around de-soldering and pulling wires?
Here's what the Snapdragon 800 chipset supports that they left out
2x USB 3.0
Micro-AB USB OTG
GNSS (GPS and GLONASS)
Networking — gigabit Ethernet
2x SATA
HDMI
And now that my dreams have been crushed a new dream arises from the ashes, here's the snapdragon 810 version I found looking up the specs on the 800, looks like a killer dev for turning into a nas/media server..
Intrinsyc DragonBoard 64-bit ARM development board technical specs...
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Be aware 810 equipped HDXs are 4th gen models that are unlockable and stuck on FireOS v5 (some builds can be rooted, albeit unstable).
Davey126 said:
Bootloader is now unlockable (has been for awhile); you can probably recover the "bricked" device if stuffed in a drawer somewhere. Battery deterioration is now the Achilles heel of these 2013-2014 vintage devices.
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Well it was bricked so hard you got nothing, no fire logo, no recovery literally a brick. I asked the company I bought it from if they had any idea how to fix it? Sure we know how to fix it, we're liquidating and we've got dozens of these laying around, just send it back and we'll replace it, well that "un-bricked" it no problem.
I see there is a new guide posted "How to root and unlock the HDX for noobies" last time I tried it was piecemeal with multiple boot/root/rom guides bouncing you all over the place, and in a I know better brain fart moment I followed a "delete file x" instruction when I know "rename file x" probably would have saved my ass.
And btw I remember why bt gps sharing with my phone didn't work, the frickin fire will not connect to my LG G3 with a "sorry you bt is not compatible message". But I found a work around (sort of). Setup my LG as a wifi hotspot and using gps tether, connected the fire with gps tether's "wifi hotspot" and enabled "Wifi NMEA". This ends up with "Receiving location updates" in the notifications, this gets me half way with Sygic finding it but not Waze
scottfree1 said:
Well it was bricked so hard you got nothing, no fire logo, no recovery literally a brick. I asked the company I bought it from if they had any idea how to fix it? Sure we know how to fix it, we're liquidating and we've got dozens of these laying around, just send it back and we'll replace it, well that "un-bricked" it no problem.
I see there is a new guide posted "How to root and unlock the HDX for noobies" last time I tried it was piecemeal with multiple boot/root/rom guides bouncing you all over the place, and in a I know better brain fart moment I followed a "delete file x" instruction when I know "rename file x" probably would have saved my ass.
And btw I remember why bt gps sharing with my phone didn't work, the frickin fire will not connect to my LG G3 with a "sorry you bt is not compatible message". But I found a work around (sort of). Setup my LG as a wifi hotspot and using gps tether, connected the fire with gps tether's "wifi hotspot" and enabled "Wifi NMEA". This ends up with "Receiving location updates" in the notifications, this gets me half way with Sygic finding it but not Waze
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There are two general approaches to unlocking a 3rd gen HDX bootloader (linked below). 1-Click is by far the easiest but requires a Linux or OSX host (Windows is not supported). The "noobie" thread is a nice complication of the 'manual' method complete with screen grabs and helpful guidance.