trolling around in the atrix forum i found this
/data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
-> secure
install_non_market_apps #Pics below, proof of it working
throttle_threshold_bytes
throttle_value_kbitsps #This is unconfirmed but I set the two throttle settings high, and it's maxed out at higher than what
from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138581
i downloaded asqlitemanager and ashell tryed it at 1000000kbps
and it seems to be working at my laptop speed
is this just a placebo effect ?
interesting... will hold off to see what others find to see if this works.
i think im gonna have to do this. im in canada, my phone has been doing an OTA update for over a week and i'm only at 23%.
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What are your experiences with the new Radio?
For consistency, please use the following test method.
While tethering your phone to your PC, use the speedtest located here: www.speedtest.net
Please post a graphic of your results as Maccaberry has below.
Please only post if you are in a Rev A area.
Note about testing speed...
Just to make it clear, you cannot test the speed of the broadband connection accurately using the phone and Pocket IE. It will not return the correct results!
The reason for this is that the processor needs to perform double-duty in order to load a page in Pocket IE; this means it processes the incoming data and also has to render the page. While the page is rendering, the data has to wait, and vice-versa.
The correct way to accurately test the speed of the data connection is by tethering the phone to your computer and then perform a speed test, through someone like speedtest.net or something like that. This is because the phone only collects the incoming data and then ports it to the USB for your computer to render in the browser.
My results confirm this:
Download Speed using the new ROM:
Pocket IE: ~950Kbps
Tethered: 1550Kbps
The difference is due to the processor not being able to stream all of the data at the maximum speed AND render the page all at the same time.
Hope this helps!
Geckotek,
I agree that the only way to accurately test is via tethered pc. PIE has never given anything like a real number for me.
www.speedtest.net seems to be the best and the one that most posters use as their reference.
Now if you could amend your instructions to use this method we would be onto something.
EDIT: with old radio and rom I get 1400 k DOWN and 120K UP as a point of reference. EV-DO Rev0
From the VZW network side
sitting at the console, from 3.27 to 3.55.04 RNC says session is REV-A for both, BER is better for new resulting in more reliable session, speed is a little better due to the BER (a timer was tweaked in the leaked radio) S/N ratio a tad better with older ROM but if you are in a good signal area then youe EVDO stays up better because the noise ref figure for fallback is set higher, and EVDO speed drops off faster with lower signal, new radio is wayyyyyyyyy better trust me as I see it's impact on the system.
I get about 440Kbps d/l and 104Kbps u/l tehered to my laptop. Seems strange that I can't get better numbers than that with 5 bars sitting in the center of Houston, TX. Certainly we have Rev. A here...
Very good point about the processor guys. I'll make the changes.
I like www.speakeasy.net/speedtest. For my posted results (which are > 1Mbps download, >300kbps upload), I used WMWiFiRouter to tether to my laptop and ran the test out of Firefox 3.0b4 running on said laptop. I believe this should be valid.
Before I changed the ##778# setting for Rev. A to enabled:
After I changed Rev. A to enabled:
Do you see something wrong with this picture? I don't think that setting does what some think it does.
whatsit said:
Before I changed the ##778# setting for Rev. A to enabled:
After I changed Rev. A to enabled:
Do you see something wrong with this picture? I don't think that setting does what some think it does.
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Yeah, that's been discussed. The entry is to "Disable" Rev A. So "Enabling" the entry would in theory "Disable" Rev A. So the general concensus is to leave it alone.
Dealing with MS registry entries you find this type of logic a lot.
Speed Map
I'm sure most people know about this, but I'll put it here for posterity's sake.
EVDO Maps
Latest version of flash 7 required
OK - slightly off topic - sorry - but when I go to speedtest.net it syas I need at least flash player 7.0 or higher. I installed the flash player bundle and thought that would do it. no dice - anyone have an idea what I'm missing?
Flashplayer on your laptop.
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OK - slightly off topic - sorry - but when I go to speedtest.net it syas I need at least flash player 7.0 or higher. I installed the flash player bundle and thought that would do it. no dice - anyone have an idea what I'm missing?
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You are not off topic. In my reference to www.speedtest.net I specifically referred to tethering to the laptop because of the issues with running speed tests on the ppc itself.
Yet another reason that they should change the name from PIE to POS.
While using wmwifirouter
used two different sites
Last Result:
Download Speed: 2235 kbps (279.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 618 kbps (77.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
There is no point in doing this at all. Would you do a speed test on a WiFi access point when you have no idea what other people using the same access point are doing? That's exactly what you're doing with EVDO. You could be sharing bandwidth with 50 other people.
VZW here in houston area
Here is my test I did this morning...
Speakeasy.net/speedtest
2324kbps Down
316kbps Up
Sprint PCS Houston
Rev. A enabled ("Disable" shown in epst)
Rev. A disabled ("Enable" shown in epst)
I have a minimum of 4 bars where I am, jumping to 6 at periods. Any clue why I can't break the 500kbps barrier?
i've searched and searched and can't find a related post to my problem. I have a CDMA touch pro (obviously) running merdins newest (i think) rom and i've tried three different radios. i connect my phone via usb using ICS hacks and using WMWifirouter my connection seems to work great. I go to speedtest.xxx whatever the one is that everyone posts the picture with and i get speeds from anywhere from 1000kb and 1200kb. That seems like the average most people also get, but when i download anything i can only seem to reach 100to 150kb pretty steadily. I also use a download manager sometimes and that has an automatic speed regulator and it shows my max bandwith available and that jumps between an average of 700kb to 1200kb but never gets under 500kb. Now i know its not the sites i'm downloading from because when i am d/ling anything i my surfing is very very very slow so i'm obviously using all the bandwith available. Now is this normal due to it being a cell connection?? if it is than i don't understand why everyone posts their phones internet speed because i could do the same when i know i'm only getting 150kb or so, or is it an issue that other people have and is fixable. ohh and i also had the same issue using the wifi connection thats why i began to use the usb because i thought it might be faster. sorry for the super long message but i would appreciate any help, thankx
ohh i forgot
i don't know if it makes a diff but my service is through sprint. thankx again
EDIT: first off i didn't realize that i could edit my old post instead of making a new one. (i'm new at forums)
for everyone who wasted time to read my thread sorry. i think i figured it out. the speed tests are in kilobits not bytes and that is the issue. i guess i just thought my service should be faster. i've read posts of people claiming to get download speeds of about 300kbs. Still if anyone knows how to increase my speed please let me know. thanks
Ill try to put in pertinent info w/out babbling
I bought my T day b4 yesterday rooted it with easy rooter the software version is now android 2.2.1
kernel 2.6.32.36-cfs
ziggy471'sbuildbox #041011-0922
sun april 10-2011
with rom The Perfect storm v1.3
First things first I have no concern for the battery life my t stays plugged in 20-22 hrs a day......What I need/want is a fast T and faster internet.
I installed "cpu master to overclock but have no idea how or what to set that to would like a fast but staple setting to overclock to,or a better app to do it with whichever.
I also installed "wireless Tether" version 2.0.7 and again have no clue as how it needs to be setup for fastest possible Internet.
I drive a truck so my t is running Google maps,my phone,Facebook,and mail all setup to be ran via voice along with tethering my laptop to run my truck software.
any other tweaks/app,suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.
ohh and BTW I cant stand a cluttered up screen so any themes that let me put "like "apps in a folder or things that let me condense stuff together.
Please excuse the Noobness my last handheld system was a stock palm 600 that took me 3 days to run over with 80,000LBS,dont really want to do that again.
Well you're off to a good start. As far as fast internet goes there's really nothing you can do about that. You're driving around in a truck all day and your speed is going to only be affected by the strength and type (evdo/3G/LTE) of your signal. Wireless tether can only be as fast in "giving" its internet as the internet its "receiving."
As far as speed of your thunderbolt goes your best bet will be a streamlined rom and a kernel that supports over-clocking. I only use setcpu for over-clocking and all the kernels I've used as of late have worked with it's auto-detect frequency setting. Its very simple to use you just use a max and min slider to adjust the range that the processor should reside in based on your phone's ever changing processing "needs". This allows you to mitigate the downside of over-clocking which is battery drain but since you're almost always plugged in no big deal. For your situation check out Imoseyon's kernels. There's one that can be overclocked to 1.92Ghz but be warned few phones will be stable at this speed. Make a "heat profile" under profiles in set cpu and set it to run at stock speed whence you reach 50C. Then move your max slider up one notch and use it heavily for an hour. Every time you move up and are stable, repeat. When you are no longer stable drop one notch and that's the best performance you can get.
It's like Seinfeld said, "Find out what will kill me, then back it off a notch."
Good luck
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As far as fast internet goes there's really nothing you can do about that. You're driving around in a truck all day and your speed is going to only be affected by the strength and type (evdo/3G/LTE) of your signal.
Good luck
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Thanx ill check out Imoseyon's kernels.I did bump my cpu all the way to 1920,highest it hit was 48c (but it is mounted in front of a/c vent)running almost as much as i could through at it (for now) im sure i can find some more stuff to try...lol thanx for that info as what to keep a eye on.
as far as the internet i knew it can do only what it can get, more of the type question there was I dont know what all the settings in the tether app "channel frequency,and lan network settings" along with in the advanced radio info "toggle ciphering,toggle DNS check " I assume the best to make sure it gets best available would be the "CMDA + LTE/EvDo auto" setting and what is the "CMDA auto(PRL)? to update prl automatically?
Maybe this has been covered, but I googled and searched the best I could and I don't seem to see any others talking or affected by this. I just received my Gtab and followed everything from "Nflashing" to upgrading from Stock 1.1 to 1.2 then on to "Honeycomb", even with stock I noticed the wifi is extremely slow when connected to my router, strange thing is I also have an "Elocity A7" tablet that pulls 17-20mb when doing a speed test, the Gtab is lucky if it gets 2mb. For the life of me I can't figure this out and couldn't find anything when I googled it either. Do I have a defective unit maybe???
Dunno, but if anyone has any input, please share.
Sorry MODS, could u please post in the Q&A forums, my bad
Not sure why you are having slow speeds..
Here's my Gtablet running Speed Test at work today..
Test Date: May 24, 2011 10:20:19 am
Connection Type: Wifi
Server: Columbia, SC
Download: 16.44 Mbps
Upload: 18.87 Mbps
Ping: 7 ms
FIXED
Ok, so gotta give big props to my man "roebeet", I had pm'd him to get his opin about it and he told me to play around with my wireless, trying "g/n" settings, well when I looked it was set to "Mixed b/g/n mode" so I changed to "g/n only" and now I back to "flyin high" LOL.
So in closing, I guess always make sure to include your router in your troubleshooting.
P.S. Can't believe I didn't think of checking the router.
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed in the Thunderbolt forums but I did a search and could only find posts in other phone specific forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943171
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
I have LTE turned on in my area and when I use my wireless tether for root users I get awesome speeds between 2-3MBps but after about 150-200MB downloaded those speeds immediately drop off to just 10-20k or so. Now I rarely go over the 5GB soft cap and even when I do it's only by a few hundred MBs. Is there some sort of throttling going on and any way to stop it?
It has been discussed actually (and with that application), but anyways, at least you tried
Assuming your speeds are bad due to one application isnt exactly a very good test (more so since you did not say what version of the application you are running since that could matter). If you want to be certain, try internet connection mode via usb and download a test file from a location around you, such as from one of these data centers http://www.linode.com/speedtest/ and watch the speed. Doing that, you can eliminate plenty of variables, like the wifi connection on either end acting up for whatever reason and the application.
If it stays constant, then it's the app. If it doesn't, well that's not a 100% indication either. LTE is unstable speeds will fluctuate. If you're only testing from one location, that's not a very good conclusion either.
Whenever you have a problem, try to go through the total process of elimination only focusing on one variable at a time and try to keep everything else the same. Most likely it's you or the current setup on your phone or the application, not verizon. How do I know this? Because many have downloaded way more than you have and haven't been throttled (just from people I know locally with an LTE enabled phone).
Exusting all possible outcomes is a much better conclusion than wildly guessing you are being throttled though.
Another way you can test directly on your phone:
1) open up the terminal
2) type the 3 lines below: (downloads a file, gets the time it took and then removes it after)
cd /mnt/sdcard
time wget http://207.192.68.6/100MB-newark.bin
rm 100MB-newark.bin
*if the above doesn't work, then you need busybox, but nearly every rom/kernel has it that's not stock, so you should by default, have it. If not, search in the market for busybox installer. The reason you see an ip there is wget doesnt play well with hostnames on the android due to the way it resolves domains and busybox generally being statically linked. If you want to try another url, you have to get the ip like above (you can do that by pinging the hostname on your phone).
3)Note "real" the time it took in seconds and divide 100 by that to get Megabytes per second (MBps not Mbps) or by 102400 to get Kilobytes per second (I suppose you could get Megabits, but that's a pretty pointless measurement other than making your connection look fast compared to saying bytes, since your files all appear in bytes and browser downloads show in bytes). If you really care about mbps, multiple what you did above already by 8.
4) when it finishes you have an answer totally on your phone alone.
ignitros said:
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed in the Thunderbolt forums but I did a search and could only find posts in other phone specific forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940190
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943171
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937925&highlight=throttle
I have LTE turned on in my area and when I use my wireless tether for root users I get awesome speeds between 2-3MBps but after about 150-200MB downloaded those speeds immediately drop off to just 10-20k or so. Now I rarely go over the 5GB soft cap and even when I do it's only by a few hundred MBs. Is there some sort of throttling going on and any way to stop it?
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I believe there is a problem with the "Wireless Tether" app. I don't think it plays well with the 4G, this could be a reason for it. Have you tried used the "Mobile Hotspot" app, that comes with the phone? Do you get the same results?
I have also used the stock mobile hotspot app as well as tether via usb and get the same result. For clarification... I am downloading large files (500mb or larger) from a work server so I know that it's a problem on my phone end and not a problem on the server end. I can be on my home computer and download the files and never drop below 5MBps download the whole time... usually never drop below 10MBps to be honest.
Android police says that the way wireless tether works.. there is no way to tell if you're tethering or not without digging deep into packets.. deep enough that it would be invasion of privacy
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/27/psa-take-it-easy-att-isnt-targeting-unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
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joshnichols189 said:
Android police says that the way wireless tether works.. there is no way to tell if you're tethering or not without digging deep into packets.. deep enough that it would be invasion of privacy
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...unauthorized-android-tethering-and-may-never/
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That's all good and well but there is definitely something going on here. I've run the same test same file all 3 ways once every 4 hours since my first post and at about 150-200mb downloaded my speeds drop to almost non existent and the same goes for files downloaded from Microsoft and Google among others. Downloading the same file from my home internet does not see this slow down at all. I've even tried letting it run for over an hour like that to see if it was something temporary. It seems to stay throttled down till I've let the phone sit for a few hours without using any data then kicks back up to normal speeds until I restart another large download.
Is there any way to do a more controlled experiment to see if I'm crazy, unique or what?
ignitros said:
That's all good and well but there is definitely something going on here. I've run the same test same file all 3 ways once every 4 hours since my first post and at about 150-200mb downloaded my speeds drop to almost non existent and the same goes for files downloaded from Microsoft and Google among others. Downloading the same file from my home internet does not see this slow down at all. I've even tried letting it run for over an hour like that to see if it was something temporary. It seems to stay throttled down till I've let the phone sit for a few hours without using any data then kicks back up to normal speeds until I restart another large download.
Is there any way to do a more controlled experiment to see if I'm crazy, unique or what?
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yeah...backup your current rom, flash and restore your phone back to near stock (still rooted) and try without any meddling (custom stuff) http://www.multiupload.com/26WG1UZCXR http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423
you also never mentioned what android version and rom you are currently using. if it's anything other than froyo, that could be your problem since nothing else is anywhere as stable (by stable, i dont mean "oh it works" i mean as in tested throughly and was put out for non testing release).
Though the above suggestions stated above likely are the culprit, and will help you...there is also a chance that you are indeed being throttled occasionally. Infact, I'm sure we all have been. Verizon has several manned data centers throughout the state who monitor all the traffic happening, and can, and will, activately manupulate the speeds, thoroughput, etc depending on how conjestion things are. And yes, they can even pinpoint it on an individual level...though they rarely do that, tending to focus on what's happening on a more macro level.
I actually wasn't even aware of this until recently, but some guy who worked at Verizon who was also in school for that sort of thing let it slip when we started chatting for a second, to which he received a scathing look from the ***** manager, so that ended the conversation.
I was running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and I did return to stock without root this morning to try it out that way as well and I'm still seeing the same results.
ignitros said:
I was running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and I did return to stock without root this morning to try it out that way as well and I'm still seeing the same results.
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Find someone else with a 4g device and have them download next to you at the same time. Only other option I can think of doing.
I'll try that.
Update:
I got with a few friends and tried a few different things. 3 people with Thunderbolts and 2 with Droid Charge. 2 in Seattle and 3 in Spokane. The Thunderbolts rooted and running DasBAMF 1.6.3 and the Charges fully stock. We tried the download using 3 methods for the TBolt's (wireless tether for root, mobile hotspot and USB tether) and the Charges used the mobile hotspot.
We all downloaded the same files. A 512mb video file, 400mb zipped picture file and a 300mb document file.
My Seattle friends who have had the "official" 4G LTE launch had no issues downloading at all... 1 TBolt and 1 Charge. Download went smoothly and never throttled down at all.
All 3 of us here in Spokane saw the same throttling going on. Could this be more an effect of LTE not being "officially" deployed in Spokane yet? It's not supposed to be officially launched till June 19th but we've been able to access it for several weeks now.
ignitros said:
All 3 of us here in Spokane saw the same throttling going on. Could this be more an effect of LTE not being "officially" deployed in Spokane yet? It's not supposed to be officially launched till June 19th but we've been able to access it for several weeks now.
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I would say that's a possibility. I get around 130 kbit/sec down, and LTE was officially launched here in december but only at our airport. I've been checking for nearly two weeks now and it's stayed the same. the upload is normal, was 3.5mbit/sec today.
This is all good to know. I'll be in Seattle next week for work. Can't wait to have 4G for a week