It is with great sadness and anger that our "investment" of my much beloved Photon 4G will not be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0). I found out today when I decided to engage Motorola to find out if the Photon 4G will get the update. (See Screenshot of the Chat). So unless CyanogenMod gives us a custom ROM, we just got shafted by Motorola.
UPDATE:
It now appears to be a definite "maybe". Attached is a another screenshot from Moto's Forums. I know I'm getting slack for posting this, but common someone had to look into this. Don't shoot the messenger!
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Regardless of where these "reps" are located, these people are suppose to represent Motorola. If they can't get their answers straight then its a bad reflection on the company.
agonzalez1010 said:
It is with great sadness and anger that our "investment" of my much beloved Photon 4G will not be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0). I found out today when I decided to engage Motorola to find out if the Photon 4G will get the update. (See Screenshot of the Chat). So unless CyanogenMod gives us a custom ROM, we just got shafted by Motorola.
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I'm sure someone will port it over.
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this assumes the csr in chat actually knows something beyond what was publically announced. history says they dont know.
i will be extremely surprised if ics isn't made available.
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this assumes the csr in chat actually knows something beyond what was publically announced. history says they dont know.
i will be extremely surprised if ics isn't made available.
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i talked with a sprint employee today and they said the galaxy nexus WILL NOT be coming to sprint. so being rather upset about it i asked about the iphone 5 and they told me there is no such thing and there are no plans for it.
so not only did i learn that the packing slip showing the galaxy nexus for sprint was wrong, but apple is no longer going to be making iphones.
just figured id post that info in here rather than starting my own thread.
but on a serious note moto reps are told nothing that they dont need to know, just the same as everyone else
Haha. Funny man . Well since no information was out there regarding the update, I went the route of inquiring with them. I really hope that they were wrong, but right now (unless someone can get a different answer from them) this will be fact and I'll wait for a port over.
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Haha. Funny man . Well since no information was out there regarding the update, I went the route of inquiring with them. I really hope that they were wrong, but right now (unless someone can get a different answer from them) this will be fact and I'll wait for a port over.
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you won't get a different answer until it's announced.
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so not only did i learn that the packing slip showing the galaxy nexus for sprint was wrong, but apple is no longer going to be making iphones.
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i knew quantum entanglement was powerful but didn't realize it could take a product out of your hands
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I think that once the photon gets it's fully unlocked bootloader development will really take off as right now not a lot of people are willing to unlock their phone. Also we got two different guys working on CM7.1 so I would be shocked if we don't having people jumping on CM8 when the source is dropped. Personally I wouldn't worry too much about it, we'll get it and hopefully without motoblur(CM8).
This is very disappointing news if it turns out to be true. I have wanted this phone since it was announced, I have loved it since I bought it. I have been able to get over the locked bootloader but it would be very frustrating if ICS is denied to this phone and especially since I have to wait 20 some months before my next equipment discount.
This really means nothing, those are the first supported devices that they are planning for. Motorola already tweeted saying that other devices will get ICS within 6 weeks of Google's push.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/10/24/motorola-speaks-up-about-ice-cream-sandwich-updates-razr-bionic-and-xoom-to-be-the-first-will-confirm-more-later/
Those reps work in a damn call center. I find no merit in this thread or the rep you spoke to. As a previous poster stated, they are only given information they need to do their job...which is answer phones or messages and they rarely do that right! Besides, motorola would make this type of information official on their own, not through some jerk off answering IMs
Need I mention the MoPho has all the specs required under the hood to run ICS...time will tell
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Hey buddy you don't have to be all hostile. I only relayed what they said. They represent Motorola and at this time this is the only fact they've given out regarding the fate of the Phone. If you find "No Merit" on this thread they why bother chiming in?
I'm on a FACT finding mission here because we owners want the latest OS. Yes this phone has the specs to do it I agree with you there, but someone in Motorola needs to take this Phone serious and come out with a timeline or something to let us know what is going on. Unfortunetaly this has close to official that I was able to get.
Lol all I have to say is your 100% correct the agents at moto do not know when software updates. The only way ill believe anything is if a Dev from Moto says so. This is from The knowledge of actually working in a call center. They wont know **** lol
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Nearly every phone I have researched on Android has gotten one upgrade from where it started, and some have gotten two. This phone started GB, it'll eventually get ICS. There simply has not been an official announcement yet, and I have a feeling the call center won't know anything until we do. Also, there isn't an iphone 5 YET. There's no way Apple will give up on such a popular gold mine. I just have a feeling call centers deal in official, announced information, not rumors. ICS for photon and iphone 5 release and Sprint Nexus Prime are all rumors at this point. A call center saying no doesn't mean anything.
Lol! Hostile? Bud, I wasn't being hostile toward you...all I'm saying is those morons don't know jack. We will have our ICS....Don't fret my little 'MoPho'ers!
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i have to agree that if you think that little peon answering the phone knows anything but how to connect you to support in India you are sadly mistaken
I don't care if gets ICS, I love the way it runs with GB! It has been the best experience with android in a phone after HTC Hero, Moment, EVO, Nexus s and ET4G.
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It is with great sadness and anger that our "investment" of my much beloved Photon 4G will not be getting Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0). I found out today when I decided to engage Motorola to find out if the Photon 4G will get the update. (See Screenshot of the Chat). So unless CyanogenMod gives us a custom ROM, we just got shafted by Motorola.
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If we don't get the official release of ICS for Photon maybe coz Photon sold by Sprint carrier. You should ask Sprint rather than Motorola coz the update will be made if Sprint ask Motorola support.
But I'm pretty sure we will get ICS official or not coz someone must be on to it.
Don't worry Mophon owners about lack devs. We will be get ICS before new year
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I thought Google had some rule (for lack of a better way of putting it) that states that manufacturers and carriers have to support Android phones for 18 months. But I guess that doesn't necessarily mean that OS upgrades are part of the deal.
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Alright, so I did a little searching and still have a question on whether the Atrix is going to get Ice Cream sandwich, as all of you know, the newer Android OS, not released yet (but within 1-2 months).
Only other thread found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973034
We obviously have an unlocked bootloader and a host of options available for the phone, including CM7 which is in pre-beta, but what about ice cream sandwich?
I understand motorola PROBABLY won't release it, because they only recently released gingerbread, but does anyone know of someone willing to port it, once it's rolled out? or...anything?!
Thanks
An official version, I highly doubt it. A leaked custom ROM of it, more than likely...
Can you say, Cyanogenmod 8!? Hopefully but I heard that newer devices will be able to run it. So I'm guessing that the inspire, atrix, infuse sensation, etc. And as far as the official update for ice cream sandwich, I would forget about it
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no one knows the answer to this question, so there's no point in asking it.
I have a doubt about getting ICS on the Atrix.
Let's suppose that Motorola won't bring us ICS officially.
Given that starting from Android ICS there must be proprietary, binary drivers for properly running it: how would Cyanogenmod 9 work for the Atrix, if there won't be those proprietary drivers?
Why did you resurrect this after 3 months? As if there weren't enough of these threads!
Because this was here first.
That's a great question
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The best way to get ICS right now is to buy a Galaxy Nexus. The best way to make friends on these here XDA Atrix forums is to be patient and stop agonizing over when the Atrix will see it. The speculation never ends, but at some point you just have to stfu and enjoy what you have!
CaelanT said:
Why did you resurrect this after 3 months? As if there weren't enough of these threads!
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LOL sorry I came to this thread from a Google search and I (incorrectly) supposed that it was recent without looking at the last post date. My fault. In any case, the question came to me when I was looking at this thread, so I did not want to start another just for this question
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LOL sorry I came to this thread from a Google search and I (incorrectly) supposed that it was recent without looking at the last post date. My fault. In any case, the question came to me when I was looking at this thread, so I did not want to start another just for this question
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Thank you for not starting another.
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Thank you for not starting another.
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At least I made half-damages. Now it is gone, this thread is resurrected and my question is still valid.
I am waiting for a CM luminary to help me understand about the new strange "We love opensource, but you need the proprietary binary driver" Google policy and how this will impact non-officially upgradeable devices.
Yeah, I don't exactly understand how google is planning to get that ball rolling either, if the drivers aren't all available.
As for the atrix, from what my understanding is, the real issue with ICS not being ported is the missing Tegra 2 driver.
Now, don't quote me on that, but that's what I saw.
i think there is a slight posibility we will get official ics, seeing how the photon and bionic will probably get it, and the atrix is basically the same phone but for a different carrier. but even if we do get official, still sticking with cm9
Not sure where you saw the photon is getting it. No officials I've seen for that one. As for the bionic not gonna help us much as its not tegra 2
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Not sure where you saw the photon is getting it. No officials I've seen for that one. As for the bionic not gonna help us much as its not tegra 2
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well seing how they are already running gb, seems like they would get an official update. and if the photon gets it since its a tegra 2 the porting would probably be pretty easy, but im not a dev so i wouldnt know.
Not going to happen....or at least for the next 6 months. this "must have the latest software" is a god damn disease. Lol I think this phone is awesome, but was never well supported or embraced by the developing community from the get go. Not being harsh but a lot of developers have left.....
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And the used prices for Atrix are joke now, you can get one for 200$. I remember how I paid 343# just two month ago. I feel stupid.
As for the Tegra 2 and ICS, don't you guys know that numerous tablets will be getting ICS ?
you must be mad i paid 1 cent for mine, (granted it was with an ATT upgrade) but after taxes and their upgrade fee's .. still less than 50$ for the atrix
To me it all feels very elitist.. YOU can have the latest upgrade but YOU can't.. Most of us are locked into 2 year contracts.. Yet at the rate that phones are evolving most phones are out of date within 6 months. With new O/S upgrades coming every year at the most. So what Motorola/Google are telling me is my phone which I've had just a year is not worthy of the newest update/upgrade. What Makes it worse is with Google purchasing Motorola's mobile phone division you would think they'd showcase how the two can work together.
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What Makes it worse is with Google purchasing Motorola's mobile phone division you would think they'd showcase how the two can work together.
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That would only be an issue when and if the deal actually goes through.
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
Don't forget word "upgradable" in there...
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It is real but states ics upgradeable. We all know they plan to roll it out soon. Exactly when is anybody's guess.
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orateam said:
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
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^This guy.
orateam said:
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
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GOD, Thought it could be something different than I monitor every few hours on this page with lot of hopes on ICS.... ... Same old thing....
'Plan to roll it out soon'.....ha, got a good laugh outta that one. 'Soon' is when a Dev gets it ported over and it's working. Not the Moto 'soon' which would be sometime in 13'....
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'Plan to roll it out soon'.....ha, got a good laugh outta that one. 'Soon' is when a Dev gets it ported over and it's working. Not the Moto 'soon' which would be sometime in 13'....
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Surely not in '13!! The update that leaked at least should tide us until Spring or Summer when they actually release it. If it isn't out by then it will be a big disappointment for me.
Spoke to a Verizon tech today regarding webtop and he let me know that his razr is running the ICS official. He also has a copy of the CM9 ruining on another RAZR. They keep tight tabs on the community so that know how to teach sales staff when a phone is rooted , rom'd or other hack. Just thought that was interesting
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orateam said:
Spoke to a Verizon tech today regarding webtop and he let me know that his razr is running the ICS official. He also has a copy of the CM9 ruining on another RAZR. They keep tight tabs on the community so that know how to teach sales staff when a phone is rooted , rom'd or other hack. Just thought that was interesting
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[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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Seriously. The reps at the corporate store I was at were when they saw an unbranded, GSM RAZR; I was in there for the car dock.
Icecream sandwich update should be very quick on motorola phones as google owns the company now
and the way they have released i think 4 updates already within 1 month is very good for customers so ICS cant be that far away id imagine
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[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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i know my way around the tech parts of a phone. been around them as a developer and fan for some time. Verizon tech wasn't B.S.'ing me. I have no basis for spreading rumours. I immediately saw my error with this post on the website and have asked for it to be taken down just minutes after i posted it. But its taken on a discussion point because of the title. I will change that if i can.
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i know my way around the tech parts of a phone. been around them as a developer and fan for some time. Verizon tech wasn't B.S.'ing me. I have no basis for spreading rumours. I immediately saw my error with this post on the website and have asked for it to be taken down just minutes after i posted it. But its taken on a discussion point because of the title. I will change that if i can.
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I know someone who works for Verizon corporate (not retail). Their techs definitely do have access to pre-release updates. It's how Verizon begins testing things before pushing them out to the public. He told me that the main reason Verizon takes its time with updates is that they test everything very thoroughly before release to limit calls to customer service once the OTA is pushed out. They want to make sure as many bugs as possible are squashed ahead of time. It's a wise angle to take, but doesn't leave "normal consumers" feeling all that great about things.
And what about retail version, who test it if there is no carrier? I suppose Motorola itself, now compare its speed (and stability) with your carrier - who will win?
Before we get to business you gotta read my link about how we got s**t on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559943
@ Forum member "TheShackSpecialits" this is just for you!. I stated with EOL Sprint will never let us get ICS. You stated we will because manufactures control OTA updates. I then gave you several reasons why they dont. This, my friend is for you!!
Not only did this article verify what I said, It also gave Motorola a grade of "D", the lowest of ANY cell manfacture for doing OTA Upgrades. This has to bring up the question, who s**t on who?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-are-the-best-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Really you should name the title better as it gives people false hope.
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Motorola got my money for the last time. Many thanks to our devs for getting us ICS
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I'm confused about your logic on this and frankly it seems that your "I'll show you that we're screwed" attitude seems to make this irrelevant. But for the sake of anyone else reading this and getting utterly depressed that our amazing phone may not be getting ICS... well that's just incorrect. This page shows that ICS is currently in development (as opposed to "evaluation & planning") for the photon and is in the category of phones with at least 1GB of RAM, which I would like to consider promising.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Also the main complaint from the article you linked to was about delayed updating of the X2. I don't even know how much longer that's been out than the Photon b/c it's seems like a LONG time.
Anywho, stop being so d**n negative!
Plus we have awesome devs that have gotten us cm9 already, and stable much earlier than most phones so I guess I don't understand the severity of the problem if you're on this site.
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Before we get to business you gotta read my link about how we got s**t on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559943
@ Forum member "TheShackSpecialits" this is just for you!. I stated with EOL Sprint will never let us get ICS. You stated we will because manufactures control OTA updates. I then gave you several reasons why they dont. This, my friend is for you!!
Not only did this article verify what I said, It also gave Motorola a grade of "D", the lowest of ANY cell manfacture for doing OTA Upgrades. This has to bring up the question, who s**t on who?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-are-the-best-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
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So some guy named Brandon Russell regurgitates another writers article and you all are gung hoe? I have some land I would like to talk to you about
@ricky, read back S-L-O-W-L-Y. I have no issues with my Photon, none at all. I might jump for a new EVO, but thats beside the point. I have no problems with the Developers here, they do, and continue to do a great job. But, my Photon is GREAT.
If all of you take my first suggestion here, In my OP in the link about, my issues is with Sprint and the way they handled business! How do you put a EOL of a device thats not even a year old, but you continue to support the original EVO (although threated a few times to shelve it?) If it breaks in May, you do not get another Photon, you get a compatable device. yes, CM9 is great! if it breaks then, then what, you rooted it, so that's blown out the water.
The second link was to clarify 2 things. 1. if Sprint is going to EOL the Photon, they are not going to support it, PERIOD! (It they keep that promise). Therefore, the Q3 promise is, for the most part, dead. That user responded by telling me the motorola controls OTA upgrades. As that article stated, reguardless of carrier or device, these are controlled by the carrier, not the manfuacture.
Lastly, to comment on my last sentence in this original post, who s**t on who? Did Sprint crap on Motorola with not enough advertisement, support, ect. Or did Motorola crap on Sprint by making Development promises they could not keep and Sprint finally said "F" it?
Learn how to name your threads appropriately, please.
Moto said rollout starts in Q3 - Q3 has NOT started yet!
And I don't care at all "who did what to who". It's just a friggin' phone man!! I've got a dozen gathering dust in the bottom of my closet. Along with a dozen computers I've given to charities, friends and families over the years.
dsims7_2000 if you are that angry and bitter why dont you go to Verizon or ATT. I would like to see ICS on the photon to but no one ever geranteed that it would get it. If it does then thats great if not oh well we still have cm9.
Into y'all feelings much? .... Welp this is my last few posts for the photon as I have a epic touch too and going to be there for awhile.. Look guys I been here for awhile like back since the winmo days HTC cingular 8125 and tmo wing.. And since cm3 ppl been just needy complaining upset at things that shouldn't matter.. Look it's just a phone g1 users was messed over hero users and a few more.. Just appreciate the phone as is cause if GB was the last OS update these threads wouldn't be happening!
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If you have one for me ill take it
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Dude! Calm the F&#K down!
Moto has it officially listed as rolling out in Q3. Sprint is EOL-ing certain devices early just to make sure that all WiMax hardware is cleared out before LTE comes in so there's no confusion.
If you wanted WiMax to stick around and grow, you should've rallied more people to Sprint. Instead, everyone wanted the iPhone or they thought they could "hear everybody now" on Verizon. Now they're stuck in contracts with Data caps and insane bills. Meanwhile, we still have comparatively nice bills and unlimited data but we're all stuck with having to switch over to LTE and endure a massive network overhaul. *Shrug*
Really, the most confusion seems to be understanding what EOL actually means. It doesn't mean your phone is done with updates or that if you call support they won't help you, it mostly just means they're done selling/swapping it.
I suggest the OP re-read his linked article. It's not Sprint/USCC that's doing a crappy job of rolling out ICS, it's Motorola, which completely contradicts his claim. The carriers are certainly involved with testing and giving the final approval for OTA updates (and EOL status has nothing to do with that), but the gruntwork behind updates is done by the manufacturers.
FTR, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it takes Motorola this long to do updates. Their dev team and code infrastructure must be absolutely horrendous considering that a small group of amateur enthusiasts are able to produce mostly working ICS ROMs within a month or two of the release of ICS -- without manufacturer-provided driver updates.
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Really, the most confusion seems to be understanding what EOL actually means. It doesn't mean your phone is done with updates or that if you call support they won't help you, it mostly just means they're done selling/swapping it.
I suggest the OP re-read his linked article. It's not Sprint/USCC that's doing a crappy job of rolling out ICS, it's Motorola, which completely contradicts his claim. The carriers are certainly involved with testing and giving the final approval for OTA updates (and EOL status has nothing to do with that), but the gruntwork behind updates is done by the manufacturers.
FTR, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it takes Motorola this long to do updates. Their dev team and code infrastructure must be absolutely horrendous considering that a small group of amateur enthusiasts are able to produce mostly working ICS ROMs within a month or two of the release of ICS -- without manufacturer-provided driver updates.
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Could not have said it better myself.
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Really, the most confusion seems to be understanding what EOL actually means. It doesn't mean your phone is done with updates or that if you call support they won't help you, it mostly just means they're done selling/swapping it.
I suggest the OP re-read his linked article. It's not Sprint/USCC that's doing a crappy job of rolling out ICS, it's Motorola, which completely contradicts his claim. The carriers are certainly involved with testing and giving the final approval for OTA updates (and EOL status has nothing to do with that), but the gruntwork behind updates is done by the manufacturers.
FTR, I think it's absolutely ridiculous that it takes Motorola this long to do updates. Their dev team and code infrastructure must be absolutely horrendous considering that a small group of amateur enthusiasts are able to produce mostly working ICS ROMs within a month or two of the release of ICS -- without manufacturer-provided driver updates.
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I agree very well said
I have no worries about Motorola. As was stated before, Motorola said they are developing the update for the Photon and it should be out by Q3. I'm not worried about Sprint choosing to EOL the Photon. We are going to get ICS and I'd imagine that even if Sprint choose not to support ICS that Motorola would leak it to the community. You think all these SBFs were by accident?
OG epic still getting updates! I'll leave it at that
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The original freakin' Droid got an update a few months ago and it went EOL a loooooonnnng time ago.
It's crap like this thread that has led me to ignore the OP.
stonesaber said:
The original freakin' Droid got an update a few months ago and it went EOL a loooooonnnng time ago.
It's crap like this thread that has led me to ignore the OP.
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I agree. this post is bogus
dsims7_2000 said:
Before we get to business you gotta read my link about how we got s**t on:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559943
@ Forum member "TheShackSpecialits" this is just for you!. I stated with EOL Sprint will never let us get ICS. You stated we will because manufactures control OTA updates. I then gave you several reasons why they dont. This, my friend is for you!!
Not only did this article verify what I said, It also gave Motorola a grade of "D", the lowest of ANY cell manfacture for doing OTA Upgrades. This has to bring up the question, who s**t on who?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-are-the-best-for-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
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Seriously.......i could respond to this but i would restate what everyone has said thus far. I work in S&R and there is a reason I said everything I did. Your still very wrong and its frustrating that your still on this track with multiple employees and contributors telling you , that you are very wrong. I wish i could pull the i-connect and cebu articles to prove you wrong but i cant because thats a violation of policy. You have provided me with alot of entertainment but now im going back to lurking unless im contributing. This whole thread and previous thread make me sad. To loki and other members thanks for your contributions.
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Dsparil said:
Motorola got my money for the last time. Many thanks to our devs for getting us ICS
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Sprints the reason you aren't getting it. It is Sprints phone, Motorola just made it for them. Like Foxconn makes iphones for Apple. If Sprint Eol the Photon and ends support also. There will be no official is. Im pretty sure Sprint can sue them if they released an oat update on Sprints network and their tailor made phone they paid to have made.
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just looked at the update page and they changed it from Q4 to "further plans coming soon".... no ICS or maybe they're planning on just going with jelly bean? From what i hear about motorola we might not be getting anything :/ https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Just started a tread on the discussions forums at Sprint. I am so fed up with the problems on this phone. And seeing that we as customer have been take for a ride. No words from Motorola or Sprint.
Is all BS if they were going to send the update why did they put it "under development" for months?
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Just started a tread on the discussions forums at Sprint. I am so fed up with the problems on this phone. And seeing that we as customer have been take for a ride. No words from Motorola or Sprint.
Is all BS if they were going to send the update why did they put it "under development" for months?
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Exactly man. This phone is only a year old and we're still stuck on GB? Smh. We've been waiting patiently to at least get the drivers and libs to make our ROMs perfect but after learning this im putting my phone up for trade. First they push us back, now we might not even get it! Its bull.
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Jaemostoriginal said:
just looked at the update page and they changed it from Q4 to "further plans coming soon".... no ICS or maybe they're planning on just going with jelly bean? From what i hear about motorola we might not be getting anything :/ https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
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Of course they did. I thought it was somewhat obvious that if the Atrix changed its update status as would the Photon. We need not focus on our phone. If Atrix gets it, we will too, bottom line. So we need to help our brothers over there in whatever way we can as it will benefit us all. Don't lose hope, our efforts are making a difference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31943331
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Of course they did. I thought it was somewhat obvious that if the Atrix changed its update status as would the Photon. We need not focus on our phone. If Atrix gets it, we will too, bottom line. So we need to help our brothers over there in whatever way we can as it will benefit us all. Don't lose hope, our efforts are making a difference. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31943331
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It says the same thing for the atrix though. I guess we can only hope.
And this phone is screwing with me. I'm late for class because this phone thinks its funny randomly rebooting and staying at the moto screen over night -_-
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I am wondering how many photons are out there? A couple thousand I assume.
But, the worst part is that I fell they have been playing us all a long. Between Sprint and Motorola.
Sprint know that this phone has problems, they just won't acknowledge it. And sending an update to lock the device even more, I have never seem anything like that. Ever.
Motorola is clearing stock of Photon 4G on their website with free car dock @$349 without contract...
It seems like we have been fooled by the lollipop of ics so that we retain Photon 4G and not move to other phone or operator till Photon Q is released... :banghead:
If so this will be my last motorola phone ever... If not then simply they are wasting their time in locking bootloader or with other security coding...
Funniest mobile phone company I've ever seen.
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Well this is it!!
First if all MOTOBLUR suxx big time..n as photon is nt going to get ICS or JB soon..this is d last Motorola phone i will av..
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Photon.... makes me mad
It makes me disgusted with the lack of support form Motorola. With all the Droid updates on verizon and no support for the Photon on Sprint seems like we're less than an after thought. I upgraded from an original EVO and the support for that was at least bearable. As far as rooting with the Photon unlocking the bootloader kills 4G Wimax. If I'm going to lose that might as well use an upgrade and ditch the Photon.
This is definitely my last moto phone!
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i'm not hopeful about that but i think they are planning jump to jb directly.
droid 3 is a 2011 phone but status is: "Will remain on Gingerbread (Android 2.3)"
photon also is a 2011 phone but our status isn't certain like droid 3's status.
I'm not taking any bets either, but I think they will skip ICS and go to JB.
This will most likely be my last Moto phone.. I went from the Original Evo to the photon because I liked the build quality of Motorola phones. Friend of mine had a droid x and it seemed very well built. My photon has not had any of the build issues that my Evo did but i have been less than happy with the locked bootloader and lack of support on Motorola's part I assumed that when google bought out Motorola mobility we would be getting updates on par or faster than other manufacturers Guess that was a fools dream. Another reason i bought this phone was because i bought a xoom when they came out and was impressed with the tegra 2 and the quality of the xoom. My son has the original transformer and while it is thinner than the xoom, it feels kinda cheap and has some bright spots on the screen. xoom has had none of the issues of the transformer besides my 4 year old putting a small dent in the aluminum backing a couple weeks after i purchased it. I would love to dump this phone but since Sprint changed their upgrade policy i'm stuck with it for another year instead of being able to upgrade every year like I used to be able to. Was unlocked for a good while and enjoyed the ICS ports but got tired of sprints SOOOOO slow 3g and preferred the ability of having 4g when i want it. At this point i wish Motorola would just leak their build if they have one and let the devs here do the rest. They are pretty much there but without proper driver libs we are pretty much screwed. Becoming pretty annoyed with Motorola and SPRINT as a whole. Phone bill keeps going up and as far as i can tell just about every carrier in my area has faster data speeds. I was pretty pissed the other day when a coworker with an EVO flashed to cricket was able to access the internet in a building we were working in and i was stuck ROAMING.
Punit Soni said that "Further plans coming soon" means they are still trying to figure out whether they are going to update that particular phone or not. So we as a community need to tell him that we need ice cream sandwich on our phones. whether it is because of lag or any other problems nwe need to convince him and Motorola to update our phones.
kdog350 said:
Punit Soni said that "Further plans coming soon" means they are still trying to figure out whether they are going to update that particular phone or not. So we as a community need to tell him that we need ice cream sandwich on our phones. whether it is because of lag or any other problems nwe need to convince him and Motorola to update our phones.
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Hmm. wonder what factors they consider? How many users there are? Whether we are likely to upgrade within the motorola family of products? Presumably, how hard it is to do, but that's certainly not anythingwe can influence.
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i'm not hopeful about that but i think they are planning jump to jb directly.
droid 3 is a 2011 phone but status is: "Will remain on Gingerbread (Android 2.3)"
photon also is a 2011 phone but our status isn't certain like droid 3's status.
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It looks like the photon/Atrix ate the only phones in this status. The jump from jb from ics it's not nearly as large as the jump from gb to ics so I do consider this as an option. The photon is also listed as one of the devices that they promised jb updates to just last month. I'm hopeful but we're still playing the waiting game.
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No photon ics????
I just find out about the new "Further plans coming soon" status on the ICS photon, so I decided to contact Motorola about this, and this is how it went: (please keep in mind that English is not my first language, so the whole time I was trying to be as polite as you can be when you are this frustrated and the language barrier is not helping)
Denz: Hi, my name is Denz. How may I help you?
John Santiago: I just find out that you guys change the photon ics status to "Further plans coming soon" what does that mean????????
Denz: Let me check my resources first. One moment, please.
Denz: While checking for the information, please provide the serial number: Go to Settings, About Phone, Status, get the MEID.
John Santiago: deleted meid
Denz: Thanks. Be right back. Please bear with me.
Denz: As I have checked, at the moment, we do not have any information as to when the next update will become available or if ICS will be available for Photon. Motorola is a company committed to quality in all the steps of the this process We want to ensure that this upgrade will comply with Motorola quality standards before we officially release ICS for our phones. We will keep you posted.
John Santiago: that's it????
Denz: Please refer to this link for future ICS updates:
Denz: deleted link
Denz: Sorry. This one:
Denz: deleted link
Denz: I suggest to register in the Motorola Forum to get the most up to date information regarding the ICS update for Bionic. There, you can post your comments and questions. The forum manager responds to each concerns in a timely manner.
Denz: deleted link
John Santiago: bionic???????? I'm talking about the Photon 4g not the bionic
Denz: Sorry. I meant photon.
Denz: Kindly wait for future ICS announcements. Okay.
Denz: Anything else you need assistance with?
John Santiago: Is this how Motorola plans to keep happy costumers
Denz: We understand how you feel. We open a record for all consumer contacts which are then routed to the proper department for any further research. We thank you for providing your feedback and for bringing it to our attention. It is through feedback like yours that we are able to keep on finding solutions to improve our products. We just donut have any information right now.
John Santiago: Thanks for nothing Motorola "NEVER AGAIN"
Denz: If you need any more information get in touch. Thanks from Motorola, bye!
Denz has disconnected.
I know there's more people talking about this on this forums and I apologize if my post is just one more annoying new member talking nuts but I feel like I've been lied to and I'm pissed about it.
I only have one more thing to say "MOTOROLA NEVER AGAIN"
Never say never, but at least not in the upcoming year.
What I don't understand is why people are bothering customer service reps about this. You aren't going to get a straight answer from them because they probably know just as much as you do. Its not fair to them.
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johnstgo said:
I just find out about the new "Further plans coming soon" status on the ICS photon, so I decided to contact Motorola about this, and this is how it went: (please keep in mind that English is not my first language, so the whole time I was trying to be as polite as you can be when you are this frustrated and the language barrier is not helping)
Denz: Hi, my name is Denz. How may I help you?
John Santiago: I just find out that you guys change the photon ics status to "Further plans coming soon" what does that mean????????
Denz: Let me check my resources first. One moment, please.
Denz: While checking for the information, please provide the serial number: Go to Settings, About Phone, Status, get the MEID.
John Santiago: deleted meid
Denz: Thanks. Be right back. Please bear with me.
Denz: As I have checked, at the moment, we do not have any information as to when the next update will become available or if ICS will be available for Photon. Motorola is a company committed to quality in all the steps of the this process We want to ensure that this upgrade will comply with Motorola quality standards before we officially release ICS for our phones. We will keep you posted.
John Santiago: that's it????
Denz: Please refer to this link for future ICS updates:
Denz: deleted link
Denz: Sorry. This one:
Denz: deleted link
Denz: I suggest to register in the Motorola Forum to get the most up to date information regarding the ICS update for Bionic. There, you can post your comments and questions. The forum manager responds to each concerns in a timely manner.
Denz: deleted link
John Santiago: bionic???????? I'm talking about the Photon 4g not the bionic
Denz: Sorry. I meant photon.
Denz: Kindly wait for future ICS announcements. Okay.
Denz: Anything else you need assistance with?
John Santiago: Is this how Motorola plans to keep happy costumers
Denz: We understand how you feel. We open a record for all consumer contacts which are then routed to the proper department for any further research. We thank you for providing your feedback and for bringing it to our attention. It is through feedback like yours that we are able to keep on finding solutions to improve our products. We just donut have any information right now.
John Santiago: Thanks for nothing Motorola "NEVER AGAIN"
Denz: If you need any more information get in touch. Thanks from Motorola, bye!
Denz has disconnected.
I know there's more people talking about this on this forums and I apologize if my post is just one more annoying new member talking nuts but I feel like I've been lied to and I'm pissed about it.
I only have one more thing to say "MOTOROLA NEVER AGAIN"
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We just donut have the information lol
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https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
I guess we can now close the other ICS update related threads...
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Great.. What pricks.
This is such bs, from ICS in Q3, to Q4 to not at all. Such a shame that they screwed us over like this
DOH! Oh well...I love our developers anyway
kdog350 said:
This is such bs, from ICS in Q3, to Q4 to not at all. Such a shame that they screwed us over like this
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Yep, apparently development moves backwards over at motorola.
Sure does stink
Atrix 4G, Photon 4G and Electrify will not receive Ice Cream Sandwich, says Motorola http://bit.ly/QalFQx
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I'm really over all this upgrade lottery bs. My wife & the kids all want iPhones, so be it...at least they'll get an upgrade (or 2). I'll either go Nexus or Nokia 920...I'm so over this...
Anyone want a Photon & Atrix (modded) Lapdock. I'll likely activate my Pre again.
Anyone else hear that sound?
It's the sound of me not buying a Motorola device ever again...
Motorola never Again! #MotoFail #MotoNeverAgain #MotoNoMore
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dorelse said:
I'm really over all this upgrade lottery bs. My wife & the kids all want iPhones, so be it...at least they'll get an upgrade (or 2). I'll either go Nexus or Nokia 920...I'm so over this...
Anyone want a Photon & Atrix (modded) Lapdock. I'll likely activate my Pre again.
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If you have an unlocked bootloader I'd love your photon lol.
Damn, I actually wanted to believe "Further Plans Coming Soon" was a turning point.........
it's funny. i was an early webOS palm pre supporter back in 2009. and when they announced that the pre wouldn't get webOS 2.0 i was FUMING. and gave up on webOS entirely. along comes my 2011 upgrade and I have 3 choices...the evo 3D that everyone was kind of salty on on account of the 3D being a gimicky and the camera being weak...the galaxy SII when samsung was basically just another android handset oem, amidst tons of critisism about the original galaxy s, especially on sprint where updates were delayed and people complained about lack of support....and the photon 4g.
so, given the issues with the evo3d and the galaxy sii's predecessor, i thought it best to go with the photon. particulary given the anticipated google takeover.
and here we are, on the cusp of october 2012 and the evo 3D and the epic 4g touch BOTH have BEEN had ICS.
what a disaster. i'm done with motorola. DONE
I agree moto really has made a lot of people mad. They are going to lose a bunch of customers. Including my self.
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cleverly locked the boot loaders and abandoned the phones. I knew it when they massively shipped out photons to third world counties.
Maybe google trying to destroy the company! who knows!
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cleverly locked the boot loaders and abandoned the phones. I knew it when they massively shipped out photons to third world counties.
Maybe google trying to destroy the company! who knows!
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Maybe.
They will burn it to rise it from ashes and produce only one top Nexus device.
With ICS update, it was obvious.
Keep thinking Motorola will get better. They have sucked for years and will continue to suck. Time to get on ebay and find me a new phone that's not made by Motorola.
F*** YOU MOTOROLA...
i PLEDGE NOT/NEVER TO BUY ANY MOTOROLA PHONE IN FUTURE...
LET'S CREATE A THREAD AT MOTOROLA FORUM AND EXPRESS OUR FEELINGS/EXPECTATIONS...
JOIN AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT THEY WILL COME TO KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO LOOSE A GOOD NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS...
WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE SAY?
Now everybody repeat after me: "I won't buy an Android device without Nexus branding anymore".
No, I am going to buy Xperia T soon.
haha. Sony is doing well with updates now. But I think design is a step backward from Xperia S.