I thought this thing was somehow using network to get a general location somehow. However when I use my phone as a wi-fi hotspot Maps on my touchpad seems to find me to within 20 feet of wherever I actually am at the time.
Can someone explain this to me? Am I hallucinating? Only seems to work when wi-fi is connected though. Is this some sort of google magic?
Only apple and disney make magic.
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Well, everything I read seems to indicate there is no GPS. in the WiFi version of the TouchPad. However I just opended the maps app and it's right on my house. I have my TP setup to ask me for permission to use location service before an app can use it. Maps ask for this permission prior to giving my location. I assume this is done almost certinly done by Googles location service over my WiFi.
in short, yes it's Google "magic".
To the previous poster... Yes apple also makes magic, but it black magic! LOL
To cut a long story short, it's using the location data of your ip address, through your wifi connection (I believe).
Not necessarily a google thing.
it's just a setting in the router you're getting wifi from. some routers allow you to turn the ip location settings on and off, others are always on.
the only Touchpads with GPS are the 3G/4G ones.
I knew there wasn't a GPS. But I have an unrooted HTC Desire HD phone. Is there an easy way to tether my CM7 Touchpad to my phone to make use of my phone's GPS?
asif9t9 said:
I knew there wasn't a GPS. But I have an unrooted HTC Desire HD phone. Is there an easy way to tether my CM7 Touchpad to my phone to make use of my phone's GPS?
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I use an external GPS receiver tethered with Bluetooth to the touchpad.
asif9t9 said:
I knew there wasn't a GPS. But I have an unrooted HTC Desire HD phone. Is there an easy way to tether my CM7 Touchpad to my phone to make use of my phone's GPS?
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Yes, download an app called TGPS from the market both on your phone and on the tp, install the client widget on the tp and the server widget on your phone, and as long as you are connected to the same network (either the same wifi or you are using wifi tether from the phone) it will work
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I use an external GPS receiver tethered with Bluetooth to the touchpad.
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Did you have to do anything special to get it to work? I paired my external BT GPS device but it didn't see to work.
I'll have to try again and see.
When google drove around making streetview they logged the mac address of every single wifi point they could find and its location.
Even though your touchpad was connected to your phone, it was receiving the SSID from random wifi routers. Even though it wasn't connected to any of these routers, it knew their location and so could guess where you were,
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Well, according to this document: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf, it does have embedded GPS. Maybe I am missing something. Certainly the feature is not implemented in webOS on the Touchpad, but maybe the hardware is actually there. One of the devs that has worked with the Touchpad may be able to shed more light on the question.
The Qualcomm datasheet may not give the correct picture. Like many other ARM tablets, the GPS may be incorporated with the 3G part of the chipset, which is not implemented on the standard Touchpad.
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Well, according to this document: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf, it does have embedded GPS. Maybe I am missing something. Certainly the feature is not implemented in webOS on the Touchpad, but maybe the hardware is actually there. One of the devs that has worked with the Touchpad may be able to shed more light on the question.
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The Qualcomm datasheet may not give the correct picture. Like many other ARM tablets, the GPS may be incorporated with the 3G part of the chipset, which is not implemented on the standard Touchpad.
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THIS.
plus all the different model touchpads have been taken apart and inspected thoroughly. The different touchpads have different hardware not just size differences.
you can read more here:
http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/302420-4g-touchpad-owners-lounge.html
The Qualcomm datasheet may not give the correct picture. Like many other ARM tablets, the GPS may be incorporated with the 3G part of the chipset, which is not implemented on the standard Touchpad.
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Yes, maybe. However, the document does clearly list the modem separately, and caveats other features that do not apply universally. It just seems that the document refers to the GPS functionality as part of the "Snapdragon Family Overview," and lists it separately in the table, where the modems are clearly distinguished.
You are probably right, but this document at least, seems a bit misleading. I am going to look for more technical documentation.
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Post here about anything you might have found out about the internal NookColor hardware.
Here's one to start with:
Look at dmesg under Android. The wireless driver is TIWLAN, and a little Googling correlates the line "Chip ID is 0x4030111" with a WL1271, a TI part with 802.11b/g/n, bluetooth, and FM. However, as far as I can tell Bluetooth isn't anywhere to be seen in the Nook ROM.
This document shows the typical setup for the WL1271, which is for WiFi to connect to the host through SDIO (one of the SD/SDIO/MMC interfaces) and Bluetooth and FM to go through a UART.
There may not be antennae for BT and FM, but we should definitely look into this
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There may not be antennae for BT and FM, but we should definitely look into this
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Maybe not FM, but that document I linked shows a "WiLink 6.0 Solution" that uses an antenna switch so only one 2.4GHz antenna is needed for BT and WiFi.
Ohhhh, this has some interesting potential!
I got Flash 10.1 to install, but cannot get the B&N Browser to Dolphin to recognize that its installed when I try to do something with Flash (tells me I need to install it)
txskeets said:
Ohhhh, this has some interesting potential!
I got Flash 10.1 to install, but cannot get the B&N Browser to Dolphin to recognize that its installed when I try to do something with Flash (tells me I need to install it)
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Interesting, but let's keep this thread on the topic of hardware.
Have you tried checking the ttys? Or even just trying to put a bluez stack + firmware taken from another device on it?
BlueTooth
Please, Oh Please, tell me that this device can do BlueTooth. The ability to add a wireless keyboard would make this device Perfect for me!!!!
Agreed, Bluetooth FTW. We could be one kernal injection away from BT!
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Have you tried checking the ttys? Or even just trying to put a bluez stack + firmware taken from another device on it?
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I didn't bother; from that doc I posted there's a GPIO enable for bluetooth, and unless the BN developers were complete bozos they've turned it off and left it off in this kernel. We could go searching for it, but it would get tedious. I am willing to bet that it's referenced in the BN u-boot and kernel sources though.
The TI WLAN/BT/FM driver and firmware can be found here: http://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/wilink_drivers/
This might not be the right section. But what are the possibilities of overclocking to possibly run the tablet version of android "3.0" which is said to require 1ghz or faster processor??
This is an interesting find. My guess is that it would have been too much of a hassle for BN to get a WIFI only chip so they opted for the ready made one and disabled the rest of the functionality.
But I think until we have a cooked ROM for the Nook we won't be able to see BT any time soon. This is too stripped down an OS.
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This is an interesting find. My guess is that it would have been too much of a hassle for BN to get a WIFI only chip so they opted for the ready made one and disabled the rest of the functionality.
But I think until we have a cooked ROM for the Nook we won't be able to see BT any time soon. This is too stripped down an OS.
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It's clear that the NC is based on TI's ebook reference platform. Given the amount of TI silicon in there I wouldn't be surprised if TI cut them a deal on this WiFi module such that it was cheaper than another company's WiFi-only one. It's not clear what's inside the module, and for all we know there is no BT/WiFi switch, which would make it impossible to run anything but WiFi.
As long as the module has a switch, it wouldn't make any sense for BN to hard-disable the bluetooth. There aren't that many connections just to get BT data, and I'm pretty sure the OMAP doesn't use those connections (1 GPIO, 1 UART) for anything. It would only cost a few PCB traces and maybe a pullup resistor or two, less than a couple of cents at scale.
The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
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The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
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where was this confirmed? never heard mention of it at all
molesaied88 said:
where was this confirmed? never heard mention of it at all
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It seems pretty unlikely, to be honest. The NC wasn't intended to run straight Android so can't see B&N being massively interested in supporting future Android versions.
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The nook is getting 3.0 Already confirmed.
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That's a fairy tale. The next version of android will be 2.3, and nothing about 3.0 could be confirmed as it's likely 6 months away at least. And no one has really even confirmed anything about 2.3. It's all been sightings and rumors.
But back on topic - has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material? Maybe they have a vanilla version of android that is made to work with the processor? It's possible the Nook hardware is similar or identical to some TI reference design - it is the first product based on that chip after all, maybe B&N just let TI design the thing?
EDIT: At the bottom of the page for this processor it says: "This product is intended for high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs and is not available through distributors. If your company meets this description, please contact your TI sales office."
So Grr, looks like they're not going to share much unless you're a big company. Sometimes these guys have lots of support material for their processors, but I guess this one is too specialized.
has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material?
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I browsed through a bit. Looks like very well supported hardware - the driver for the WIFI chip is in the AOSP source tree, and the graphics chips is pretty common.
It would seem to me that a port of Cyanogen would be very straightforward. The missing buttons would need to be mapped to something - maybe an additional UI component which popped up for menu and back? - but other than that...doesn't look too bad. Simpler than a lot of others, maybe.
And damn, this device looks like it would be pretty quick. It's no slouch now, and with Froyo...and maybe a touch of overclocking... it would be faster than a Nexus one with absolutely killer battery life.
A very commonly available, high-quality Cyanogen tablet for $250?
Sick.
You could copy the Archos on-screen buttons (which look really annoying but are better than nothing)
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That's a fairy tale. The next version of android will be 2.3, and nothing about 3.0 could be confirmed as it's likely 6 months away at least. And no one has really even confirmed anything about 2.3. It's all been sightings and rumors.
But back on topic - has anyone had a look at the TI Ebook reference material? Maybe they have a vanilla version of android that is made to work with the processor? It's possible the Nook hardware is similar or identical to some TI reference design - it is the first product based on that chip after all, maybe B&N just let TI design the thing?
EDIT: At the bottom of the page for this processor it says: "This product is intended for high-volume wireless OEMs and ODMs and is not available through distributors. If your company meets this description, please contact your TI sales office."
So Grr, looks like they're not going to share much unless you're a big company. Sometimes these guys have lots of support material for their processors, but I guess this one is too specialized.
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Eh, as far as I can tell it's the same die as the 3630 but in a lower pin count package, without a package-on-package (DRAM/flash stacked on top) version, no camera interface, and only specced for 800MHz. The 3630 comes in 1200MHz versions, and as we've seen with the Nooter bootloader (by accident) it's possible to make this part run at least at 1GHz.
The datasheet for this part is the general 36xx series datasheet, and at 24MB isn't lacking at all (except for the DRM stuff).
bcpk said:
You could copy the Archos on-screen buttons (which look really annoying but are better than nothing)
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You could.
There's a thread in the general section right now about a button remapping app.
I just manually did what the app does, pulled the .kl files, changed VOLUME_UP to BACK and VOLUME_DOWN to MENU, pushed the files back and rebooted.
Et Voila, Bob's yer uncle, I now have menu and back keys...at the expense of losing a couple of volume control keys about which I care not at all.
Nice.
I just ordered a Bluetooth GPS receiver from Amazon because they are only $5! Original price is $150, so you save 97%.
Bluetooth GPS reciever
Bluetooth-GPS
I figured for $5, it is worth a shot. I should be receiving it by the end of the week, and will post my findings.
mcrcracer said:
I just ordered a Bluetooth GPS receiver from Amazon because they are only $5! Original price is $150, so you save 97%.
Bluetooth GPS reciever
http://www.androidpit.com/en/android.../Bluetooth-GPS
I figured for $5, it is worth a shot. I should be receiving it by the end of the week, and will post my findings.
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Well, you're trading one problem for another, WiFi will vanish with Bluetooth on.
Neither of these links work?
NOT SOLVED.
What's the point of of a thin, sleek tablet when it's got to have a dongle sticking out it.
At most your post is an obvious workaround, but hardly anywhere near ideal, or even acceptable for a lot of people.
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Well, you're trading one problem for another, WiFi will vanish with Bluetooth on.
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If your tethering your tablet via BT to a GPS unit, why would you care if WiFi was off or on? If your even doing this, it is obvious your out traveling and thus, WiFi is of no use so... it is a mute point
Someone Walkin' said:
NOT SOLVED.
What's the point of of a thin, sleek tablet when it's got to have a dongle sticking out it.
At most your post is an obvious workaround, but hardly anywhere near ideal, or even acceptable for a lot of people.
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You obviously don't know what a Bluetooth GPS receiver is. Though I do agree that this is a workaround.
You realize the ones for $5 don't come with the charger, right?
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If your tethering your tablet via BT to a GPS unit, why would you care if WiFi was off or on? If your even doing this, it is obvious your out traveling and thus, WiFi is of no use so... it is a mute point
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unless you want to tether to a phone or hotspot to use nav
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If your tethering your tablet via BT to a GPS unit, why would you care if WiFi was off or on? If your even doing this, it is obvious your out traveling and thus, WiFi is of no use so... it is a mute point
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Wifi-tethering with a smartphone?
Lock-N-Load said:
it is a mute point
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It's a MOOT point, for sure.
tdrussell said:
unless you want to tether to a phone or hotspot to use nav
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if you're doing that then why not just use tether gps?
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if you're doing that then why not just use tether gps?
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Probably true, but sometimes, a smartphone's AGPS isn't that much better.
And sometimes, you want to use... the Internet.
Glad I don't really care about GPS on a tablet or even a laptop. Both my cars have navigation systems so I'm good on that
wifi-tethering with a smartphone? I'll just use the phone GPS.
Honestly I can't even think of a situation where I really needed GPS on a larger screen...
(obviously this is just my personal situation)
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Probably true, but sometimes, a smartphone's AGPS isn't that much better.
And sometimes, you want to use... the Internet.
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I'm not saying its ideal. Obviously having a dedicated working gps in the tab is better. I'm just saying if you have a smart phone, instead of buying a bluetooth gps and jumping through hoops and all, might as well just use tether gps and use your phone's.
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Glad I don't really care about GPS on a tablet or even a laptop. Both my cars have navigation systems so I'm good on that
wifi-tethering with a smartphone? I'll just use the phone GPS.
Honestly I can't even think of a situation where I really needed GPS on a larger screen...
(obviously this is just my personal situation)
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Exactly what I was thinking with all these people complaining about the GPS. I could care less. I don't think I will ever even turn it on.
wynand32 said:
It's a MOOT point, for sure.
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d'ohh busted
kristovaher said:
Well, you're trading one problem for another, WiFi will vanish with Bluetooth on.
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Situation 1: You're home using your wifi and you need Blutooth GPS.
Solution: Dude, if you need to know where you are at home, there is a bigger issue.
Situation 2: You're driving down the road and you need Blutooth GPS.
Solution: Turn it on, there's no Wifi anyways
Situation 3: You're driving down the road, you need GPS, but someone is using the Prime in the passenger seat connected to a wifi hotspot from a phone right next to you.
Solution: First, it probably won't drop in that close proximity. Second, how often is this situation going to happen? For six sigma the population, this will happen less than once.
Situation 4: You're in a coffee shop on wifi and need GPS.
Solution: Disconnect Wifi, do your GPS location, reconnect Wifi.
Alternate Solution: Use the wifi location tracking.
So really, there is no issue here. Unless you have one I'm not thinking of.
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I'm not saying its ideal. Obviously having a dedicated working gps in the tab is better. I'm just saying if you have a smart phone, instead of buying a bluetooth gps and jumping through hoops and all, might as well just use tether gps and use your phone's.
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Oh, I agree. If you have a smartphone, might as well use the phone for GPS. Tether-GPS isn't that fast.
I PERSONALLY will never use GPS with my tablet though. There's a reason why GPS devices don't have 10" screen ;P
Just so we are clear, I am by no means in NEED of GPS on my tablet, as I have a droid bionic.
This workaround is for my wife to use while I am driving. We go on a lot of road trips, and she constantly complains about screen size of the droid.
I agree with people in the sense that GPS is not needed on the tablet, and it is not feasible to be driving around by yourself using the tablet for GPS.
I think you will find that tethering a bt GPS might be a pain. Back in the day I managed it with my old dell axim but drivers will be an issue on android.
There can be use for GPS in a tablet with cached or offline maps though. I actually hold on to our htc-hd2 because of the great GPS with offline maps under wm6.x. we use it all the time...but I prefer the pocketabilty of that system for GPS navigation.
I have little use for GPS on a tablet...but I am a little annoyed as I was with my vibrant that GPS is not working as advertised on the prime.
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I haven't seen a firm answer yet, so question. Is activating bluetooth/gps a hardware mod, software/rom, or not possible on NT?
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Nobody knows for sure yet because it hasn't yet been done and published. In theory bluetooth can be activated by software though. I'd venture to guess the same is true for GPS.
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Nobody knows for sure yet because it hasn't yet been done and published. In theory bluetooth can be activated by software though. I'd venture to guess the same is true for GPS.
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Both could potentially be "activated", because the chip does support it... but that doesn't mean that it will be worth anything. The GPS almost certainly does not have an antenna on it, and the BT range will likely be crap like on the NookColor for the same reason (no antenna.)
So, the GPS even if we get it working, will still be useless for its intended purpose, while the BT might be able to get working for a very-short-range. (2~3 feet?)
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Both could potentially be "activated", because the chip does support it... but that doesn't mean that it will be worth anything. The GPS almost certainly does not have an antenna on it, and the BT range will likely be crap like on the NookColor for the same reason (no antenna.)
So, the GPS even if we get it working, will still be useless for its intended purpose, while the BT might be able to get working for a very-short-range. (2~3 feet?)
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I would venture that when the bluetooth is enabled, we'd be able to use the fm radio app cause it uses the headphone cable as an antenna. But isn't 2-3 feet ok for a bluetooth ear piece so you can skype or googletalk with it?
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I would venture that when the bluetooth is enabled, we'd be able to use the fm radio app cause it uses the headphone cable as an antenna. But isn't 2-3 feet ok for a bluetooth ear piece so you can skype or googletalk with it?
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Could the gps also use headphones as an antennae?
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HMG10 said:
Could the gps also use headphones as an antennae?
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There is only three ways to know.
1. Build a custom rom that supports GPS and Bluetooth, then try it out.
2. Wait till the devs build you a custom rom, and find out.
3. Consult your crystal ball. =]
Heck,
the only reason why I want bluetooth enabled is do I can use a bluetooth keyboard. (which I know they where able to do with the Nook Color)
I want to use my ps3 controller to play emulators like I do with my phone. It would be such a better experience on the 7" then on my Epic 4G.
nunspa said:
Heck,
the only reason why I want bluetooth enabled is do I can use a bluetooth keyboard. (which I know they where able to do with the Nook Color)
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I would REALLY like this also. Add in a bluetooth webcam and I am an overly happy kid!
rjin9673 said:
I want to use my ps3 controller to play emulators like I do with my phone. It would be such a better experience on the 7" then on my Epic 4G.
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Sadly there is just no way to know until an alpha of CM9 is out for the NT. They are very close, so it shouldn't be long now. Once that's done, we will have have facts instead of speculation.
I want to build a bluetooth airplane and control it with my NT of doom!!!!!!!
Thanks all for the responses. I personally want to see if we could use pre-cached google maps and use the NT as for some low level gps navigation without a tether to a smartphone.
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would love to se BT work, I have two of these: "pharos-pocket-gps-navigator: and it would be great for the vehicle. Sorry, new to this forum and it will not let me post links.
May be its too obvious, but i m still missing it.
Where would the gps be useful when not on the move ??
Its a nice bonus from asus. You could always use a phone to provide network.but its really intended to determine your location not for navigation.
sraghav said:
May be its too obvious, but i m still missing it.
Where would the gps be useful when not on the move ??
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does all the standalone gps units (tomtom, Garmin, route 66 etc ) have 3g
you can download maps and use gps to navigate without 3g
vacation abroad
It's actually very useful when out of the country and you need to use offline maps.
Google maps has offline caching of maps too.
I guess they expect people to use this along side a phone not as a phone. If its not already available, cant be long till someone makes a working usb 3g dongle. And the less they put in it the thinner and cheaper they can sell it for. My only problem is virgin 3g is shockingly bad.
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What is funny to me is the the wifi only ipad doesn't have GPS at all. And really, I would rather use my GPS and GLONASS equipped Note for navigation. At least that's my opinion.
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Photo geotagging too
Don't take my word for it but from what I heard Google used to have a requirement that a device which can access the Android Market must have GPS, but they have since removed that requirement. That's why Asus just stuck one in there without properly making sure that it worked.
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Chrono_Tata said:
Don't take my word for it but from what I heard Google used to have a requirement that a device which can access the Android Market must have GPS, but they have since removed that requirement. That's why Asus just stuck one in there without properly making sure that it worked.
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Urban myth. GPS has been optional since 2.3.X.
What if you could encrypt WiFi tethering with a code and make it so someone (such as, your girlfriend) have access to use it and it turns on when they punch in the code...ah I'm dreaming
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What if you could encrypt WiFi tethering with a code and make it so someone (such as, your girlfriend) have access to use it and it turns on when they punch in the code...ah I'm dreaming
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Well if you mean wpa wifi tethering then that's standard
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Dri94 said:
Well if you mean wpa wifi tethering then that's standard
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Do you have to have it on?
You would have to leave it on. otherwise how is the phone going to know when a device is trying to connect? Magic?
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You would have to leave it on. otherwise how is the phone going to know when a device is trying to connect? Magic?
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A push notification that says a user is trying to connect, and the ability to grant access. Its a wish list Haha, I was seeing if other users would find it interesting.
How is the phone to know to send you the push notification?
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How is the phone to know to send you the push notification?
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I think he meant the device connecting to the phone, or client, sends a push notice to the phone, server, which then activates WiFi service on demand, not just always on or off.
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I think he meant the device connecting to the phone, or client, sends a push notice to the phone, server, which then activates WiFi service on demand, not just always on or off.
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Again I ask, how is the phone to know that an "approved" device is within range?
Unless you have gps active on both phones, a simple data connection isn't going to get you an accurate enough location.
Its just not possible.
dot45 said:
Again I ask, how is the phone to know that an "approved" device is within range?
Unless you have gps active on both phones, a simple data connection isn't going to get you an accurate enough location.
Its just not possible.
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It would know its an approved device via the password the he mentioned being used in the first post. Location has nothing to do with it, if the push notice is received with a proper password then it would turn on tethering and allow the client to connect, if its not within range that's not the servers fault. As this all imaginary then it could easily shut off if no client authenticates and connects within a minute or so, and also if a client disconnects.
Why would location even be a concern besides range?
Maybe use NFC to trigger it? That would take care of the devices knowing if they're near each other.
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It would know its an approved device via the password the he mentioned being used in the first post. Location has nothing to do with it, if the push notice is received with a proper password then it would turn on tethering and allow the client to connect, if its not within range that's not the servers fault. As this all imaginary then it could easily shut off if no client authenticates and connects within a minute or so, and also if a client disconnects.
Why would location even be a concern besides range?
Maybe use NFC to trigger it? That would take care of the devices knowing if they're near each other.
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1. How else are you to know when to enable tethering?
2. NFC is only viable if the devices are a few inches apart.
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1. How else are you to know when to enable tethering?
2. NFC is only viable if the devices are a few inches apart.
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Well if you just walk up, wave your tablet at your phone and then it just links up seems like a nice little feature to me. Considering your phone is usually going to be with you, say sitting at a coffee place or something, you pull out your tablet, you'll probably be able to get them within that few inches fairly easily.
Or how about this, its all imaginary, use your imagination for something you'd like to see for WiFi tethering, the actual point to this thread.
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pio_masaki said:
Well if you just walk up, wave your tablet at your phone and then it just links up seems like a nice little feature to me. Considering your phone is usually going to be with you, say sitting at a coffee place or something, you pull out your tablet, you'll probably be able to get them within that few inches fairly easily.
Or how about this, its all imaginary, use your imagination for something you'd like to see for WiFi tethering, the actual point to this thread.
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In order to start down the path of designing a solution, the requirements must be clear and concise.
Also, you are working with the hardware in the phone, so that can be a limiting factor.
NFC could work, so long as you are ok leaving it on all the time. Having someone wave their phone/tablet at your crotch to turn your tethering on could be 'interesting' depending on where you are.
If we completely ignore having the phone be "aware" of the device connecting to it, so we remove the proximity requirement. We could have an app monitoring your text messages, and watching for a specific string. Have one string enable tether and another disable tether.
An application already exists that will do the above. (do something on the phone, based on the text of an incoming sms message.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=AutomateIt.mainPackage&hl=en
dot45 said:
In order to start down the path of designing a solution, the requirements must be clear and concise.
Also, you are working with the hardware in the phone, so that can be a limiting factor.
NFC could work, so long as you are ok leaving it on all the time. Having someone wave their phone/tablet at your crotch to turn your tethering on could be 'interesting' depending on where you are. If we completely ignore having the phone be "aware" of the device connecting to it, so we remove the proximity requirement. We could have an app monitoring your text messages, and watching for a specific string. Have one string enable tether and another disable tether.
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I'm all for a solution that has people wave expensive toys at my crotch. Anything else the solution does it just gravy.
As its a WiFi tether I'm working based on something like a tablet, so SMS would likely be out, no connection at that point. It would also limit push notice like I mentioned before, hadn't considered that. The only thing I can really think of would require NFC, which only newish devices have. If we rely on a WiFi signal to handle the detection for connection then it may as well be how it is now, tap a button, WiFi tether is on.
While the NFC range could be an issue, again given a phones WiFi tether range I don't consider it to big a stretch to assume the client will be fairly close to it already, so they have to walk 10 feet to pat your crotch, small price for them, and payment for your data usage
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pio_masaki said:
I'm all for a solution that has people wave expensive toys at my crotch. Anything else the solution does it just gravy.
As its a WiFi tether I'm working based on something like a tablet, so SMS would likely be out, no connection at that point. It would also limit push notice like I mentioned before, hadn't considered that. The only thing I can really think of would require NFC, which only newish devices have. If we rely on a WiFi signal to handle the detection for connection then it may as well be how it is now, tap a button, WiFi tether is on.
While the NFC range could be an issue, again given a phones WiFi tether range I don't consider it to big a stretch to assume the client will be fairly close to it already, so they have to walk 10 feet to pat your crotch, small price for them, and payment for your data usage
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They could send a text with their "dumb phone", since its just looking for a text string, not caring what device sent it.