Wifi Tethering Wish List - HTC Droid DNA

What if you could encrypt WiFi tethering with a code and make it so someone (such as, your girlfriend) have access to use it and it turns on when they punch in the code...ah I'm dreaming

kushmacdaddy said:
What if you could encrypt WiFi tethering with a code and make it so someone (such as, your girlfriend) have access to use it and it turns on when they punch in the code...ah I'm dreaming
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Well if you mean wpa wifi tethering then that's standard
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Dri94 said:
Well if you mean wpa wifi tethering then that's standard
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Do you have to have it on?

You would have to leave it on. otherwise how is the phone going to know when a device is trying to connect? Magic?

dot45 said:
You would have to leave it on. otherwise how is the phone going to know when a device is trying to connect? Magic?
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A push notification that says a user is trying to connect, and the ability to grant access. Its a wish list Haha, I was seeing if other users would find it interesting.

How is the phone to know to send you the push notification?

dot45 said:
How is the phone to know to send you the push notification?
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I think he meant the device connecting to the phone, or client, sends a push notice to the phone, server, which then activates WiFi service on demand, not just always on or off.
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pio_masaki said:
I think he meant the device connecting to the phone, or client, sends a push notice to the phone, server, which then activates WiFi service on demand, not just always on or off.
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Again I ask, how is the phone to know that an "approved" device is within range?
Unless you have gps active on both phones, a simple data connection isn't going to get you an accurate enough location.
Its just not possible.

dot45 said:
Again I ask, how is the phone to know that an "approved" device is within range?
Unless you have gps active on both phones, a simple data connection isn't going to get you an accurate enough location.
Its just not possible.
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It would know its an approved device via the password the he mentioned being used in the first post. Location has nothing to do with it, if the push notice is received with a proper password then it would turn on tethering and allow the client to connect, if its not within range that's not the servers fault. As this all imaginary then it could easily shut off if no client authenticates and connects within a minute or so, and also if a client disconnects.
Why would location even be a concern besides range?
Maybe use NFC to trigger it? That would take care of the devices knowing if they're near each other.
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pio_masaki said:
It would know its an approved device via the password the he mentioned being used in the first post. Location has nothing to do with it, if the push notice is received with a proper password then it would turn on tethering and allow the client to connect, if its not within range that's not the servers fault. As this all imaginary then it could easily shut off if no client authenticates and connects within a minute or so, and also if a client disconnects.
Why would location even be a concern besides range?
Maybe use NFC to trigger it? That would take care of the devices knowing if they're near each other.
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1. How else are you to know when to enable tethering?
2. NFC is only viable if the devices are a few inches apart.

dot45 said:
1. How else are you to know when to enable tethering?
2. NFC is only viable if the devices are a few inches apart.
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Well if you just walk up, wave your tablet at your phone and then it just links up seems like a nice little feature to me. Considering your phone is usually going to be with you, say sitting at a coffee place or something, you pull out your tablet, you'll probably be able to get them within that few inches fairly easily.
Or how about this, its all imaginary, use your imagination for something you'd like to see for WiFi tethering, the actual point to this thread.
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pio_masaki said:
Well if you just walk up, wave your tablet at your phone and then it just links up seems like a nice little feature to me. Considering your phone is usually going to be with you, say sitting at a coffee place or something, you pull out your tablet, you'll probably be able to get them within that few inches fairly easily.
Or how about this, its all imaginary, use your imagination for something you'd like to see for WiFi tethering, the actual point to this thread.
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In order to start down the path of designing a solution, the requirements must be clear and concise.
Also, you are working with the hardware in the phone, so that can be a limiting factor.
NFC could work, so long as you are ok leaving it on all the time. Having someone wave their phone/tablet at your crotch to turn your tethering on could be 'interesting' depending on where you are.
If we completely ignore having the phone be "aware" of the device connecting to it, so we remove the proximity requirement. We could have an app monitoring your text messages, and watching for a specific string. Have one string enable tether and another disable tether.
An application already exists that will do the above. (do something on the phone, based on the text of an incoming sms message.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=AutomateIt.mainPackage&hl=en

dot45 said:
In order to start down the path of designing a solution, the requirements must be clear and concise.
Also, you are working with the hardware in the phone, so that can be a limiting factor.
NFC could work, so long as you are ok leaving it on all the time. Having someone wave their phone/tablet at your crotch to turn your tethering on could be 'interesting' depending on where you are. If we completely ignore having the phone be "aware" of the device connecting to it, so we remove the proximity requirement. We could have an app monitoring your text messages, and watching for a specific string. Have one string enable tether and another disable tether.
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I'm all for a solution that has people wave expensive toys at my crotch. Anything else the solution does it just gravy.
As its a WiFi tether I'm working based on something like a tablet, so SMS would likely be out, no connection at that point. It would also limit push notice like I mentioned before, hadn't considered that. The only thing I can really think of would require NFC, which only newish devices have. If we rely on a WiFi signal to handle the detection for connection then it may as well be how it is now, tap a button, WiFi tether is on.
While the NFC range could be an issue, again given a phones WiFi tether range I don't consider it to big a stretch to assume the client will be fairly close to it already, so they have to walk 10 feet to pat your crotch, small price for them, and payment for your data usage
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pio_masaki said:
I'm all for a solution that has people wave expensive toys at my crotch. Anything else the solution does it just gravy.
As its a WiFi tether I'm working based on something like a tablet, so SMS would likely be out, no connection at that point. It would also limit push notice like I mentioned before, hadn't considered that. The only thing I can really think of would require NFC, which only newish devices have. If we rely on a WiFi signal to handle the detection for connection then it may as well be how it is now, tap a button, WiFi tether is on.
While the NFC range could be an issue, again given a phones WiFi tether range I don't consider it to big a stretch to assume the client will be fairly close to it already, so they have to walk 10 feet to pat your crotch, small price for them, and payment for your data usage
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They could send a text with their "dumb phone", since its just looking for a text string, not caring what device sent it.

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Successfully Wired Tethered using phone as proxy server

I've never used or had a reason to use a proxy server before, but it's pretty easy. I was Googling around for a solution to my tethering problems both with wired and wireless, the 3G eventually - most times sooner rather than later - goes in and out until you stop tethering and usually requires a reboot.
I found Proxoid. Just follow that link and you'll see instructions for use with different operating systems. This is not the only thread on XDA about this, but I didn't find it through XDA to begin with, and as far as I see, there's no thread about it in the Eris-specific section, and I know others with the Eris have been having trouble tethering and this solution might help them.
Proxoid has never once exhibited the same symptom with the 3G going in and out. I've only once had to stop and restart the Proxoid tethering on the phone, and that's all that was necessary, no reboot. I have had to re-run the "start-tunnel.bat" that comes in the Proxoid Windows download, which only has the files necessary so that you don't have to download the full Android SDK if you don't want to. There's nothing to install. The .bat files just runs an ADB command to let you use your phone as a proxy server.
Maybe Verizon can't detect the tethering this way, or whatever is going on. I did change one setting in the Proxoid app, and that's the User-Agent Filter, which I set to "Don't change".
This method has certainly been more reliable and less time-consuming than using the Wired and Wireless Tethering for root apps, or any other method I've tried (build in Froyo tethering, PDANet, et cetera).
I haven't confirmed it, but you *may* need to keep the screen on (Some ROMs you can set Android to keep the screen on while charging) or it may stop working. If someone else confirms this, please reply here.
I hope this helps someone.
Awesome...I'll definitely be giving this a try tonight!!! Thanks!
Good deal, I hope as with me that it works better for you than the normal tethering. Feel free to post your experiences here so anyone else can know if you like it better or not.
I will also try this out. My computer often doesn't see my wireless tether and I've never managed to get wired tether to work. Thanks for the heads up.
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Zalatorisaurus said:
I will also try this out. My computer often doesn't see my wireless tether and I've never managed to get wired tether to work. Thanks for the heads up.
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Please let me know how it works for you.
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Please let me know how it works for you.
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Will do.
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Thanks for the suggestion!! Once I figured out the process, I was able to whip right through a youtube video without a hitch...something that is extremely rare via standard tethering methods.
The only problem I have is that I need my phone sitting up on a window sill for adequate signal...so time to invest in one of three things: an ultra-long USB cable, a signal amplifier/repeater, or just a new phone that actually WORKS with wireless tethering.
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the suggestion!! Once I figured out the process, I was able to whip right through a youtube video without a hitch...something that is extremely rare via standard tethering methods.
The only problem I have is that I need my phone sitting up on a window sill for adequate signal...so time to invest in one of three things: an ultra-long USB cable, a signal amplifier/repeater, or just a new phone that actually WORKS with wireless tethering.
Thanks again!
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Glad to help! Give the author of Proxoid some props if you can. Glad it's helped. Be aware that although there is a technical limit of USB2 or lower of about 16 feet, if I remember correctly, not all devices will work at the maximum length, so make it as short as you absolutely have to. I've experimented in the past and the length limitation is true.
I don't know if new USB3 and USB3-certified cables have a longer range. I forget. I don't know if this would apply, going from a USB3 port to a USB2 device, but it's a good question.

GPS - Is there or isn't there one?

I thought this thing was somehow using network to get a general location somehow. However when I use my phone as a wi-fi hotspot Maps on my touchpad seems to find me to within 20 feet of wherever I actually am at the time.
Can someone explain this to me? Am I hallucinating? Only seems to work when wi-fi is connected though. Is this some sort of google magic?
Only apple and disney make magic.
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Well, everything I read seems to indicate there is no GPS. in the WiFi version of the TouchPad. However I just opended the maps app and it's right on my house. I have my TP setup to ask me for permission to use location service before an app can use it. Maps ask for this permission prior to giving my location. I assume this is done almost certinly done by Googles location service over my WiFi.
in short, yes it's Google "magic".
To the previous poster... Yes apple also makes magic, but it black magic! LOL
To cut a long story short, it's using the location data of your ip address, through your wifi connection (I believe).
Not necessarily a google thing.
it's just a setting in the router you're getting wifi from. some routers allow you to turn the ip location settings on and off, others are always on.
the only Touchpads with GPS are the 3G/4G ones.
I knew there wasn't a GPS. But I have an unrooted HTC Desire HD phone. Is there an easy way to tether my CM7 Touchpad to my phone to make use of my phone's GPS?
asif9t9 said:
I knew there wasn't a GPS. But I have an unrooted HTC Desire HD phone. Is there an easy way to tether my CM7 Touchpad to my phone to make use of my phone's GPS?
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I use an external GPS receiver tethered with Bluetooth to the touchpad.
asif9t9 said:
I knew there wasn't a GPS. But I have an unrooted HTC Desire HD phone. Is there an easy way to tether my CM7 Touchpad to my phone to make use of my phone's GPS?
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Yes, download an app called TGPS from the market both on your phone and on the tp, install the client widget on the tp and the server widget on your phone, and as long as you are connected to the same network (either the same wifi or you are using wifi tether from the phone) it will work
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I use an external GPS receiver tethered with Bluetooth to the touchpad.
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Did you have to do anything special to get it to work? I paired my external BT GPS device but it didn't see to work.
I'll have to try again and see.
When google drove around making streetview they logged the mac address of every single wifi point they could find and its location.
Even though your touchpad was connected to your phone, it was receiving the SSID from random wifi routers. Even though it wasn't connected to any of these routers, it knew their location and so could guess where you were,
Fon22
Well, according to this document: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf, it does have embedded GPS. Maybe I am missing something. Certainly the feature is not implemented in webOS on the Touchpad, but maybe the hardware is actually there. One of the devs that has worked with the Touchpad may be able to shed more light on the question.
The Qualcomm datasheet may not give the correct picture. Like many other ARM tablets, the GPS may be incorporated with the 3G part of the chipset, which is not implemented on the standard Touchpad.
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Well, according to this document: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf, it does have embedded GPS. Maybe I am missing something. Certainly the feature is not implemented in webOS on the Touchpad, but maybe the hardware is actually there. One of the devs that has worked with the Touchpad may be able to shed more light on the question.
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The Qualcomm datasheet may not give the correct picture. Like many other ARM tablets, the GPS may be incorporated with the 3G part of the chipset, which is not implemented on the standard Touchpad.
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THIS.
plus all the different model touchpads have been taken apart and inspected thoroughly. The different touchpads have different hardware not just size differences.
you can read more here:
http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/302420-4g-touchpad-owners-lounge.html
The Qualcomm datasheet may not give the correct picture. Like many other ARM tablets, the GPS may be incorporated with the 3G part of the chipset, which is not implemented on the standard Touchpad.
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Yes, maybe. However, the document does clearly list the modem separately, and caveats other features that do not apply universally. It just seems that the document refers to the GPS functionality as part of the "Snapdragon Family Overview," and lists it separately in the table, where the modems are clearly distinguished.
You are probably right, but this document at least, seems a bit misleading. I am going to look for more technical documentation.

Controlling my Thunderbolt wirelessly while tethering...possible?

Pretty much what the title says....details:
I ditched my horrible AT&Trash dsl to tether via my TB (faster speeds and saving $20/mo). Problem is, I recently moved and I have to have my phone right next to the window to get solid and consistent LTE signal, so every time I get a text or something I have to get up to go look at it, cause if I move my phone it'll drop to 3G (that's another issue....whenever it hands off from 4G to 3G I almost ALWAYS have to go into Airplane mode then back out or reboot for my TB to acquire 4G signal again...anyone know a quicker way? I have latest radios....) then my tethering all my but dies and I have to start the whole process over.
I am wondering if there is a way or maybe an app I can get where I can control my phone via my PC wirelessly while tethering.......from what I've read you either have to be connected via usb (window is too far away for that) and/or your pc and phone have to be connected to the same wifi network (which, if I'm tethering and my pc is connected to the internet via tethering to my phone, that isn't really true...is it?)
So.....any ideas?
Thanks much!
This may be of some help for texting. I use bluetooth for calls. I almost have the same situation.
Check out this Android Application I'm using "DesktopSMS" on my Thunderbolt. Check it out here: http://bit.ly/qApcgj
I had the same issue, my solution was rather eloquent I bought a tablet so that, while my phone is in my window, I can get my texts on my new happy Motorola Xoom. Not sure if its possible for ya BUT it is well worth the investment. Also, are you PAYING for your tethering?
Cmon lol, no random quips? I actually DO have a solution but SOMEONE has to say SOMETHING lol!
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Cmon lol, no random quips? I actually DO have a solution but SOMEONE has to say SOMETHING lol!
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What is it??
htcdesirezgeorge said:
I had the same issue, my solution was rather eloquent I bought a tablet so that, while my phone is in my window, I can get my texts on my new happy Motorola Xoom. Not sure if its possible for ya BUT it is well worth the investment. Also, are you PAYING for your tethering?
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"paying".....is a foreign word to me

View: cell radio on when on wifi w/ data off? Airplane + wifi solves, but no BT.

So why are signal bars showing when i'm on WiFi with data and 4g off? Shouldn't the radio be off? And isn't that further draining the battery?
So this topic has expanded as noted below but the solution kills BT. Kinda sucks when doing things locally and no connection is needed.
Sorry, misread
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Ahhh...yeah, i'd just hit airplane mode then. And I can actually turn airplane mode on then wifi mode, but that is a pain, especially since they failed to put airplane mode on the quick toggles. That is odd in itself. So I have to do the power press, turn on airplane mode then do the quick toggle and turn on wifi. Kind of a dumb workaround when quick toggling mobile data should suffice. I guess they assume you're doing the phone thing with texting so the tablet is treated more like a phone. Annoying, but I guess I solved my own problem. Airplane mode on then wifi on does the trick. Now if they'll add airplane mode to the quick toggle, it'll be a nicer setup.
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i dont seem to be able to enable BT in airplane mode, anyone else?
When you turn data off, you do just that, turn off data handling for internet and email. This is a facility for people without unlimited data plans to save cash.
The phone radio is always on for SMS and MMS handling.
I know. I mentioned it in my 2nd post. The problem is some of us could care less about texting on a tablet and are more concerned with battery life. So if we're on wifi, we can go to airplane mode and turn wifi on. But apparently if you're on a plane and want to use your BT headset, you're screwed unless you turn off airplane mode and watch your battery drop like a stone.
Not everyone wants to use their connected tablet as half a phone.
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Not everyone wants to use their connected tablet as half a phone.
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Then why did you buy a 4G unit (its a phone without voice!) and not a WiFi only unit?
All Android and iPaidalot tablets are just phone hardware with large screens...non of them let you fully turn off the cell radio unless in flight mode which turns off every RF transmission. BT is also a no-no when in flight on most airlines if you check...
I'd recommend using LTE OnOff from the Android Market.
While intended for the Thunderbolt, it's more or less just a shortcut to a menu of radio controls that already exists on your device. There's a "turn radio off" button near the bottom.
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Then why did you buy a 4G unit (its a phone without voice!) and not a WiFi only unit?
All Android and iPaidalot tablets are just phone hardware with large screens...
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I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and use BT headphones. Or play onboard music or video with BT anything and conserve the battery.
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dbpaddler said:
I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and useaBT headphones.
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LTE OnOff will work regarless of device type. The fact that it has LTE in the name is irrelevant.
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I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and use BT headphones. Or play onboard music or video with BT anything and conserve the battery.
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I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to use Bluetooth in the air.
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View was same price as flyer and had pen and double memory
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If they can do Pogo I doubt BT is an issue. Regardless, turning off unused radios conserves the battery period and the only reason to have the cell radio on while on wifi is texting. Hopefully the LTE Toggle helps. I'll give it a shot next time I'm streaming sports talk or pandora on wifi.
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I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to use Bluetooth in the air.
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I guess you confuse easily.
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No need to be insulting...
No, I don't confuse easily as I read the spec carefully and understand the limitations of the device I am buying (this is a mobile based tablet, not a PC!) and don't cry like a baby when on failing something I did not research!
Hope you get the help you need, if you don't, I'm sure you can start a class action....
Usually when people make a statement and do the confused thing, they're usually being a bit snide. And based off of your response below, I was probably right. I'm sure if you took a poll of people buying tablets with data service, it would be a minute percentage that use it for texting since the vast majority of users are probably texting on their phones. I'm sorry you don't understand why people would want an always connected device.
And reading specs and understanding limitations? What a joke in regards to the ability to turn off a radio.
Sorry, much more content now about being insulting in that first post. Thank you for reinforcing my first sentence.
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No need to be insulting...
No, I don't confuse easily as I read the spec carefully and understand the limitations of the device I am buying and don't cry like a baby when it doesnt!
Hope you get the help you need, if you don't, I'm sure you can start a class action....
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Keep it civil kids, the personal comments have no place here. Keep it up and you can expect infractions and/or bans.
The facts of the matter are as follows.
1. The behavio(u)r you're observing is correct, as per spec and design.
2. The radio should be on, with an established bearer whether data is on or off, this is not what the data on/off is about. Data on/off as indicated above is to initiate/terminate data sessions.
3. Yes you do save battery by turning off unused radios, but that defeats the always on nature of the device.
4. Bluetooth has not been certified for airborne use by any major aviation authority.
5. Wifi has been or is in the process of being certified in many aviation jurisdictions, hence wifi is possible in flight mode, bluetooth is not but the default is to turn everything off first and you have to explicitly turn on Wifi.
3. Wifi is "on". And no offense, but being always connected should be an option the user gets to control.
4. Just one instance. Again, the user should have control over what he wants "on" on "his/her" device. flying was just used as an exampled.
Bottom line is, cellular connectivity should not be "mandatory" in anything but airplane mode if it is not needed. It really makes no sense, nor does your justification of it being an "always on device". It's a "when I want it to be" device. I'm paying the $50 per month, not the other way around. And it is still a tablet first. It shouldn't be crippled because it has a cellular radio in it.
And again, wifi is part of being on so the option to turn off the celluar radio should be built in, not some workaround one needs to download. A
globatron said:
Keep it civil kids, the personal comments have no place here. Keep it up and you can expect infractions and/or bans.
The facts of the matter are as follows.
1. The behavio(u)r you're observing is correct, as per spec and design.
2. The radio should be on, with an established bearer whether data is on or off, this is not what the data on/off is about. Data on/off as indicated above is to initiate/terminate data sessions.
3. Yes you do save battery by turning off unused radios, but that defeats the always on nature of the device.
4. Bluetooth has not been certified for airborne use by any major aviation authority.
5. Wifi has been or is in the process of being certified in many aviation jurisdictions, hence wifi is possible in flight mode, bluetooth is not but the default is to turn everything off first and you have to explicitly turn on Wifi.
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What truthfully makes me laugh about the OP's lack of understanding about this whole thread is, in his pursuit of saying what users should have (and no one else has a problem) is that most BT headphones have limited battery life themselves. I have BH-905's, DR-BT21G's and Jabra BT3030's and not one of these units batteries, outlive the Flyers battery, playing music (note: my cell radio is on all the time....) Video watching with BT is downright un-cool with inherent lag (on all tab's!) so the cable comes out for the noise cancelling BH905's on planes...
My car does not make coffee, and I will never expect it to!
Shame you obviously failed to read through the thread. Then you would've realized that BT was not my issue, but someone else's, and I was just trying to point it out and help. My only concern was shutting off the cell radio while on wifi. And I figured it out and posted it rather quick.
Bottom line is there should be an easy way to ditch the cell connection when its only function is for texting. It shouldn't come at the expense of BT and using airplane mode.
And even though it's not my issue I would have times at the gym when I'm on wifi, cell reception stinks, and I wouldn't mind using BT headphones to stream pandora or slacker.
What's even funnier is the same people that love rooting, romming and having complete control over their phones find issue with having the ability to turn a cell radio off when it's not needed aand part of it under the guise that the device is meant to be "always on", like it's a requirement of the device, not an option.
And the coffee/car analogy doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form. Like I can't watch tv on my microwave and I don't expect too.
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dbpaddler said:
Like I can't watch tv on my microwave and I don't expect too.
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But now (or soon) you can... Maybe
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/20/2574130/microwave-hack-arduino-touchpad-youtube
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[Q] Tether DNA's WiFi connection to USB

So, I'm moving. And my PC doesn't have a WiFi card in it for the time being. Ethernet is out of the question.
I have an unlimited Verizon 4g plan... but I heard they don't let you tether for free anymore over their network with unlimited. (I can use WiFi root tether, but that's beside the point.)
I've tried using the Settings => Usb Tethering option, but stock sense doesn't let you tether without a 4g connection enabled.
Any ideas? (Preferably something without dumb limitations, like no https etc, but beggars can't be choosers.)
Thanks!
-Frankie
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
hyphydragon said:
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
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Interesting. Do you have HTC Sync on your pc?
Only way it'll let me do it is if I use data. I'll post screens in a min
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I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
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reaverclan said:
I use fox fi and with the pdanet application on the pc you can fake your image hiding your tethering, doing it the way the guy above states does not work on stock anymore normally and would certainty show your usage. on pdanet just use stage two usage hiding uh is hard to explain and I'm on my phone I'll update my post in like 10 minutes showing what I mean with pictures on my pc K.
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Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
illusionz said:
Thanks mate. I didn't know PDA used my phones WiFi. Thought it only worked with 3g.
Doesn't the program not let you use https and stuff?
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on PDANET atm with LEVEL II usage hiding and i was able to get into things like paypal with https and what not. So i think it would be fine, i don't have unlimited anymore so i use no hiding but i turned it on to see if it works and it seemed to. Im posting this with it on level II.
hyphydragon said:
im on digital dream 2.2 and am posting from my wifi routed through my phone using the normal usb sertting smart detect or w/e its called
i disabled cell data just to be sure it works, as for stock i was kinda sure i had done the same thing before but dont have any way to test it again atm.
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Definitely works and will do the trick for now. Thanks man.
The free version kind of blows... I go through the allotted data in like a minute.
Do you notice pretty low speeds, or connection drops when the phone goes to sleep? Do you know if I need to keep it always screen on or something? Or is this the level 2 screening?
Wish there was a way to do this natively without having to do all this, but will work in a pinch. Thanks!
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
reaverclan said:
it works by using a advanced proxy type thing( its complicated) but i notice no difference with it on level 2 and none and witht he phone off i do have a fox fi key though since i use it for work a lot. with the free version i did notice it was slower but i had that version so long ago they had it where it was unlimited but only 180KB/s so it was slow regardless, this was a OG droid so long time ago. its still cheaper than getting hard line lol and an one time only payment, i used to have issues on windows 8 but their newest pdanet client for desktop fixed those. i get around 20mbps in the field generally when working.
hope this helps explain some things.
rvc
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Thanks bud, yeah it helps. I'll probably end up buying it eventually... WiFi Tether [Root] works fine for WiFi, but for some reason FoxFi scares me. I feel verizon will strip my unlimited away from me while using FoxFi. Not sure why I feel safer using the WiFi root tether app though.
they should be able to tell your tethering with a normal non proxied app. In reality though they can allways tell if they cared but unless your use more than like 6 GB idk they would care if your plan is expensive enough lol.
Yeah, I wish there was another way than pdanet to do it. Wish there was a way to tell if the speeds are just my phone or the free pdanet version.
how low are the speeds on speedtest.net on pc vs on the app on the phone, mine are almost same.
I was.... "Testing" the download speeds through pdanet. Its about 1000Kbs slower through pdanet.

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