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Has anybody seen 4G expand into their city in the past 4-6 months?
I'm searching the web and can't find any evidence that they are continuing to expand their 4g. I read on a couple web sites/forums that they just need to flip a switch and their existing 4g towers will increase the area they are covering but I can't find any evidence to support that they are actually doing this.
It seems as though Wimax expansion has halted. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
-Thanks, Jack
WiMax 4G dev has come to a slow crawl due to Clearwires $$$$ problems and there new LTE test markets, Clearwire has already started its FCC approval for LTE/WiMax Modems.
For the latest Rollout Coverage News visit
http://corporate.clearwire.com/releases.cfm
Well, looks like I won't see 4G anytime soon.
hchavarria said:
Well, looks like I won't see 4G anytime soon.
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Yep pretty much.
Nope WiMax is pretty much dead. Sprint just announced this,
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07/28/sprint-confirms-4g-lte-deal-with-lightsquared/
Looks like there going a different route with LTE. Clearwire was a great concept but they grew too fast and overstretched themselves.
While Sprint hasn't announced anything, Clear has continued to turn on towers nationwide to avoid the FCC breathing down their necks about not using their licenses.
Best place to look for 4g coverage is www.clear.com/coverage
I think it is complete BS. I dont have 4G in my area and honestly dont think I will within the next 2 years. When I first bought the Evo 4G, I thought I would have 4G within the year. 6 months after purchase I had I feeling it would never make it here. I bought the 3D with no expectations of ever being able to use the 4G on it....it sucks, but its reality
Topgun966 said:
Nope WiMax is pretty much dead. Sprint just announced this,
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07/28/sprint-confirms-4g-lte-deal-with-lightsquared/
Looks like there going a different route with LTE. Clearwire was a great concept but they grew too fast and overstretched themselves.
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stop jumping the gun kid... this doesnt mean jack **** for end users...
cjackxiii said:
Has anybody seen 4G expand into their city in the past 4-6 months?
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Yup, 15 days ago. See this Engadget article and click on Show Press Release. I live in one of those towns (Paramus) but unfortunately I'm on the side of town where I have no Sprint coverage and rely pretty much entirely on the free Airrave they gave me.
cjackxiii said:
Has anybody seen 4G expand into their city in the past 4-6 months?
I'm searching the web and can't find any evidence that they are continuing to expand their 4g. I read on a couple web sites/forums that they just need to flip a switch and their existing 4g towers will increase the area they are covering but I can't find any evidence to support that they are actually doing this.
It seems as though Wimax expansion has halted. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
-Thanks, Jack
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Just because Sprint doesn't show it on their coverage map doesn't mean there's none in your area. My co-worker makes it a habit to check Clear's coverage map daily. A couple months ago he noticed they had our town (40,000 people) lit up pretty well. Turned on 4G and sho' nuff I was able to connect. It shows up as Sprint and the speeds not bad. Check www.clear.com/coverage
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New Sprint 4G rollout plans
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There's going to be some major announcement this fall.
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There's going to be some major announcement this fall.
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This all sounds good, it all sounded good when Sprint's 4G first rolled out, and I bought the EVO 4G last year. So over a year later and STILL no 4G in all of SC, I mean come on.
Hell, I'd be happy with just GOOD 3g coverage, not 150 kbps crap speeds.
4g rolled out in May here, I couldn't get it inside though, noticed the other day I get a single bar inside now. Clearwire is still rolling it out. Sprint argued with me about 4g being in my area when I upgraded to the 3d.
Download sensorly from the market and use that instead.
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My question is, with this LTE announcement, what will happen with the existing 4G Phones?
A simple OTA will fix this?
When will this start?
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spencer88 said:
This all sounds good, it all sounded good when Sprint's 4G first rolled out, and I bought the EVO 4G last year. So over a year later and STILL no 4G in all of SC, I mean come on.
Hell, I'd be happy with just GOOD 3g coverage, not 150 kbps crap speeds.
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'effin A right! Last year, I switched to Sprint and got the Evo 4G with high hopes of getting 4G in my bustling college town in Central VA. Now, over a year later, I've stepped up to the 3D and still don't have reasonable 3G coverage, much less 4G. I'll stick with Sprint a while longer, but this ****'s gotta stop. Big promises only get new customers for so long before they get pissed off and leave.
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'effin A right! Last year, I switched to Sprint and got the Evo 4G with high hopes of getting 4G in my bustling college town in Central VA. Now, over a year later, I've stepped up to the 3D and still don't have reasonable 3G coverage, much less 4G. I'll stick with Sprint a while longer, but this ****'s gotta stop. Big promises only get new customers for so long before they get pissed off and leave.
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AND on top of that, Verizon rolled out their LTE here (I'm just outside Columbia, SC) and my house is in LTE coverage. A buddy of mine has a verizon work phone (droid charge, hes in columbia) he pulls 24 meg down and like 5-6 meg up, from his house. That stuff pisses me off. Sprint was first with 4G, Verizon was late to the game but they've expanded far more than Sprint ever did, and ton's faster and in my area!
stanglifemike said:
I think it is complete BS. I dont have 4G in my area and honestly dont think I will within the next 2 years. When I first bought the Evo 4G, I thought I would have 4G within the year. 6 months after purchase I had I feeling it would never make it here. I bought the 3D with no expectations of ever being able to use the 4G on it....it sucks, but its reality
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I think its still rolling, just slowly. I used to never get 4g at work, I now get it with solid signal.
I still am leaning towards the LTE being for voice over LTE. A few weeks ago they had a bunch of positions open up specifically to set up a voice over lte network, that was the whole point of the jobs.
I've been waiting on 4G since the day the OG evo came out, I bought it thinking I'd eventually have it, if not a year, then by the end of my contract.
Fast forward to today, I have an Evo 3D and still no 4G. But now the town over has 4G, and it's not the biggest or most crowded town, but what I don't understand is why they didn't turn 4G on in the metropolitan town of Springfield MA, instead of west springfield? There's gotta be way more sprint users in Springfield, and I'm there everyday.
Verizon's LTE is looking better and better everyday. If they get a superphone like the Evo 3D or the Sensation, I might just switch. Especially since Sprint can never seem to bill me properly
This is what's Going to happen.
Sprint Invested Heavily with Clearwire they own 51% + market share
Sprint Just invested in LightSquared with a 15year Deal
Clearwire has been rumored to switch to LTE when the market required it.
Dan Hesse 4g Announcement This Fall.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/19/sprint-ceo-dan-hesse-big-4g-announcements-coming-this-fall/
Clearwire Switch to LTE will be announced this Fall.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/05/06/clearwire.talks.about.lte.switchover.with.sprint/
So what does that Entail, Clearwire / Lightsquared for LTE network.
Clear to switch over current market to LTE, w/ the option of wimax as a backup.
Lightsqaured to pick up the slack in the currently missing markets to fill the void
Basically my company is changing the way they do phones and we now have to get out own phone plan which they will reimburse us for. I'm currently on AT&T with the HOX and the only other phone I would consider is the EVO 4G LTE. Actually I would prefer to have the EVO to be honest but I'm mainly worried about data speeds. I'm in Atlanta and the LTE speeds on AT&T here are absolutely insane, average around 35-40Mbps down on speedtest, and they reach way outside of the actual city, which is a huge plus for me. I actually live about 50 miles north of the city and still get a strong LTE connection. I see that Atlanta is on the first wave of LTE roll-outs for Sprint but I'm worried about the 3G speeds I may have to be on a lot of the time. Can anyone in the metro Atlanta area comment on the 3G speeds around here? I don't know anyone on Sprint personally. The other plus for me switching to Sprint is the unlimited data. The AT&T company plan I'm on now has unlimited but that is going away and I'll have to start a completely new plan if I stay on AT&T.
Generally sprint 3g will be slower because we don't have hspa and most att does, sometimes sprint is faster but I haven't seen that since sprint list the Alltel towers
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Spyderekz said:
Generally sprint 3g will be slower because we don't have hspa and most att does, sometimes sprint is faster but I haven't seen that since sprint list the Alltel towers
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When I actually do switch from ATT LTE to HSPA/HSPA+ I still pull over 5Mbps down consistently, so I don't doubt that the 3G will be slower, just how much slower is the question. All the Sprint speed tests I see are always showing how bad it is but I don't know anyone in the Metro Atlanta area to give me actual results.
Sprint is horrible bad, make sure you get good info before jumping ship.
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I can only suggest going to a store and running speedtests. I remember my old evo 3D pulled good data in the city
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pside15 said:
Basically my company is changing the way they do phones and we now have to get out own phone plan which they will reimburse us for. I'm currently on AT&T with the HOX and the only other phone I would consider is the EVO 4G LTE. Actually I would prefer to have the EVO to be honest but I'm mainly worried about data speeds. I'm in Atlanta and the LTE speeds on AT&T here are absolutely insane, average around 35-40Mbps down on speedtest, and they reach way outside of the actual city, which is a huge plus for me. I actually live about 50 miles north of the city and still get a strong LTE connection. I see that Atlanta is on the first wave of LTE roll-outs for Sprint but I'm worried about the 3G speeds I may have to be on a lot of the time. Can anyone in the metro Atlanta area comment on the 3G speeds around here? I don't know anyone on Sprint personally. The other plus for me switching to Sprint is the unlimited data. The AT&T company plan I'm on now has unlimited but that is going away and I'll have to start a completely new plan if I stay on AT&T.
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I just left VZW with the Galaxy Nexus to sprint and this phone. I am so happy I did. Dispute the huge dev community there this is a far better phone then the gnex. The network in my area for sprint used to be a laughing stock but they have came so far in two years its amazing.
rockin my EVO 4G LTE
pside15 said:
Basically my company is changing the way they do phones and we now have to get out own phone plan which they will reimburse us for. I'm currently on AT&T with the HOX and the only other phone I would consider is the EVO 4G LTE. Actually I would prefer to have the EVO to be honest but I'm mainly worried about data speeds. I'm in Atlanta and the LTE speeds on AT&T here are absolutely insane, average around 35-40Mbps down on speedtest, and they reach way outside of the actual city, which is a huge plus for me. I actually live about 50 miles north of the city and still get a strong LTE connection. I see that Atlanta is on the first wave of LTE roll-outs for Sprint but I'm worried about the 3G speeds I may have to be on a lot of the time. Can anyone in the metro Atlanta area comment on the 3G speeds around here? I don't know anyone on Sprint personally. The other plus for me switching to Sprint is the unlimited data. The AT&T company plan I'm on now has unlimited but that is going away and I'll have to start a completely new plan if I stay on AT&T.
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Don't do it sprint sucks!!!!
dishun71 said:
Don't do it sprint sucks!!!!
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Strange I have now been on all three of the big three and Sprint has A: the best plans for smartphone users and B: the best service in my area
rockin my EVO 4G LTE
Try it out - Get an EVO LTE and return it within 14 days
I am pretty sure that right now you can get at EVO LTE directly from Sprint with free activation. With the return policy, you could return it for a full refund for the phone within 14 days and only pay the prorated service charge.
So I suggest you try it out and get a new / temporary phone number from Sprint and then return it. That will give you a true real world experience of using the phone and its service.
I am in the Philly area and am hoping to see LTE by the end of the year. The service is OK in the area, but horrible in my house. To deal with that I use Roam Control to force roaming (which uses Verizon's towers) while at my house -works like a charm!
Good luck.
Sprint has the best plans but by far the worst/slowest network. It's a trade off..
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dlamprey said:
I am pretty sure that right now you can get at EVO LTE directly from Sprint with free activation. With the return policy, you could return it for a full refund for the phone within 14 days and only pay the prorated service charge.
So I suggest you try it out and get a new / temporary phone number from Sprint and then return it. That will give you a true real world experience of using the phone and its service.
I am in the Philly area and am hoping to see LTE by the end of the year. The service is OK in the area, but horrible in my house. To deal with that I use Roam Control to force roaming (which uses Verizon's towers) while at my house -works like a charm!
Good luck.
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I got it two days ago and free activation is only online. In store its 36.00
rockin my EVO 4G LTE
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Sprint has the best plans but by far the worst/slowest network. It's a trade off..
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I'm getting 1 mbps download on 3g Verizon was 200 kbps on 3g
rockin my EVO 4G LTE
I happened to be in the Atlanta airport the other day waiting for a connecting flight. My data speeds on the Evo 4G LTE were fast for 3G. I know it's the airport and may not include other areas, but it seemed great. The previous week I was in Orlando and had no data speeds at all. I called Sprint and their towers were being upgraded. I felt like a hand was cut off.
In Massachusetts where I live the data speeds are good.
Oh and as for that upgrade fee/activation fee of $36. I have bought all my phones at Best Buy and never paid the fee. Might want to go there.
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I'm getting 1 mbps download on 3g Verizon was 200 kbps on 3g
rockin my EVO 4G LTE
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That's cool, hopefully we'll all get that soon, but it's no secret and it's not a stretch.. Sprints network is bad. A lot of it is due to tower upgrades being done.. So hopefully it will only be bad for a short time
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I'm in ATL, and I would say my 3G is good most of the time. I live and work just outside I-285, and I've always had good service. Is it the fastest, no. Have I been able to do everything I needed to do, pretty much yes. Now I do work in a Corp high rise, and its surrounded by two other high rise buildings, so the signal does fade in/out at times. Also, there is no using Sprint cell phones in the elevator based on my 10+ year experience with Sprint. When I travel around the city, I get good service (data/voice) and GPS reception. I only run into problems when I'm in or around large buildings. As far as call signal/quality, no issues. I get a few dropped calls, but those are in the same dead spots. I do have roaming on... Those dropped calls are few and far between.
I just came back from a 4 day trip to Chicago. Sprint phones have always held up well for me on vacations out of town. I never rent a GPS, as the phone does everything I need. I used the EVO LTE for car, public transportation, & walking navigation (GOOGLE NAV/MAPS by the way). It performed exceptionally... Like I said b/f, the signal may fade if you're around large buildings, but that didn't hinder my travels. FYI - the battery held up well. I used the camera, video, and GPS non-stop. I will have to say the camera has grown on me. That thing is quite impressive. The burst mode is a beast. Very impressive now that I know how to use it. I used to have a color saturation problem, but that's long gone. Guess the camera got better over time & me actually learning how to use helped too. My portable charger (Tylt Powerplant) I purchased from Sprint held up will and did a great job of keeping me juiced. I was out all day using the phone on Auto brightness. Sun glare/reflection didn't bother the EVO at all.
OP - Hope all this information helps.
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I've had about enough with sprint. Sprint continue's to say LTE is in the Houston area. That 4G is a free service and not nothing can be guaranteed. Since July 15th I have had 3 or 4 minutes of LTE. It's completely understandable that LTE is "rolling out" but to deny that there are major issues day in and day out is entirely unprofessional. Below is the conversation I had with a sprints rep.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsqifoht031velh/2012_07_30_16_02_18667270665_Out-003.mp3
I know other people who are having the very same issue. I can't be the only one having issues, right?
PS: I borrowed someones quote from somewhere in the forums. I will try to find it later and edit the post.
They're releasing their lte still. Most launched markets only have 15% towers working so far. Chicago being the only exception with 38%.
Be patient, lte will hit your area. I'm not getting any until November.
^this. Give it time. Atts rollout was no different
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there are countless other threads on LTE...post in one of them please...
Also like other have stated, they are still rolling LTE out and will be for awhile...they announced markets live when only 20% roughly of the market was actually live tower wise, so it will get vastly better coverage wise...
FYI
I live on the east side of downtown Houston. When the LTE launch came and went, I had no LTE in my house. I thought for sure being this close to downtown I would have it on the launch date. The weekend after the launch I attended a Houston Dynamo game at BBVA stadium and was pleased to pick up a LTE signal. The stadium is about a mile from my house.
Last week I started receiving a strong LTE signal at my house. Usually somewhere around 15 down and 15 up for speeds, with max around 22 down and 18 up.
Anyways, if you are in Houston or another launch area and have yet to pick up consistent LTE, I wanted to pass this along. Maybe this gives you hope or helps you to channel your patience.
PS - Running Mikey's latest MeanRom
I wished I lived as close to town as you. I live a lot further out east and I can only get a 4G signal on I-10 going home and of course at the Sprint Store at Freeman and I-10.
I took my phone it to see if maybe there was a problem and it was working great! I'd love to see the speeds you are. Maybe this year hopefully.
Lets all hope they continue their LTE rollout in Houston. I experience horrible service in the Northwest side of houston
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Came across LTE at work in Greenspoint Thursday. Even got it inside work for a couple seconds.
Well for me I can pick up a signal quite often but literally for about 10 secs. Then its gone. I gave up on actually trying to download something and use the LTE, instead I try and open up speed test to see what kind of speed there are but the signal never holds to finish the test. I guess it can only get better from here.
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I guess there is hope for just receiving the signal. Ive been several place from constellation field in sugarland to 59 and Beechnut as well as near Reliant Park. I always receive a signal but the speeds are similar to wimax
So's I just got off the phone w/sprint tech support and they confirmed that the 4g towers in LA are up and running. I have yet to see my 4g symbol light up. Is anyone else in my parts (downtown LA) getting a 4g signal? I could be wrong but I thought this wasn't supposed to happen till the end of september.
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By on they just mean they aren't blocking your access to them.. You probably still have to go on a hunt to find it though. It will be very spotty.
Thats how it was in KC at least. I've got it at my house, and its at my parents house now. But a mile from Sprint headquarters, nothing, and the worst 3g imaginable. It's astonishing.
I had 4g on the OG EVO, but 4g LTE not up yet, I work in Downtown LA so no LTE yet.
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There's a Site dedicated to the 4g rollout I haven't seen any reports in LA yet.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/index
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Thanks for the intel tall. I called sprint due to my lousy signal I have while around the armpit of dwntwn LA. Tech informed me that there's a couple of tickets open on two towers that apparently my phone uses. Since their is work being done on em she wasn't able to give me the green light on a signal booster. She did however inform me that said tickets should be closed by tomorrow and will call me wednesday morning to see if signal has improved. Not sure if this post interests anyone else but I will be more than happy to keep inquiring minds informed of any updates.
The U.S government wouldn't lie to us...would they?
I'm out in the SGV and 3G over the weekend just became really fast. Haven't noticed the LTE signal yet. I did notice my phone disconnects from the network when screen is off sometimes. Maybe it's something to do with the LTE testing
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Yeah would love to be kept up to date on this lousy 3g in LA as of late. I figured they were doing something because it's really been terrible.
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Passed thru la on my way to edwards afb this morning. No LTE. But 3g was awesome! Saw 2.5mbps down multiple times on the 5 thru all of la. But usually ended at 1.5+. Sure wish I could see these speeds at the office in Anaheim
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Sprint reception is messed up giving me network issues all around the los Angeles area the last few days.
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It's been unbelievably slow until tonight. Looks like Pasadena is getting that network vision upgrade. Now let's get that 4g up sprint.
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Been sick since wednesday and missed the call from sprint. I'll call tomorrow and post conversation.
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I'm in Northridge (sfv) and haven't noticed any 3g increase or 4g at all. Hoping soon tho!
i live in los angeles county, San Pedro, and i do not receive 4g at all. With my old HTC EVO (og) i use to get 4g while at work in Long Beach but now i dont even get that with the evo 4g lte. I called sprint about a week ago because at my home i noticed my service dropped tremendously from 4 bars to 0-1 bar and they sent me a signal booster for my house, but this is a ****ty fix they have. It only boost signal at home not the rest of town where i seem to have no service! I hate paying the extra 10$ a month for a service the dont even provide yet.
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i live in los angeles county, San Pedro, and i do not receive 4g at all. With my old HTC EVO (og) i use to get 4g while at work in Long Beach but now i dont even get that with the evo 4g lte. I called sprint about a week ago because at my home i noticed my service dropped tremendously from 4 bars to 0-1 bar and they sent me a signal booster for my house, but this is a ****ty fix they have. It only boost signal at home not the rest of town where i seem to have no service! I hate paying the extra 10$ a month for a service the dont even provide yet.
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Well you have to understand two things.....
1) Your old evo was using the 4g wimax technology. This new one is using the 4g lte technology which hasnt rolled out to LA yet. Hence why you don't have "4g" on the new phone.
2) The signal booster you got was a Airave mini cell tower. That will only boost your cell coverage in your home, but not anywhere else. The no service....is that no 4g service or no cell service. If its no cell then call sprint, because that shouldn't be happening
yeah i know about the airwave only doing service at the house. But i hate that this is their fix for this.
I'm near West Hollywood. I noticed a huge decrease in signal quality over my EVO og when I got this phone. Dropped calls too. It's reminding me of when I used to be with AT& T.
I travel to Glendale a lot. I'm rooted and running the original Rom.
Supposedly Sprint said September for L.A. while I don't really expect it, if they don't have it going by the beginning of November, I'm going to be starting to calculate the feasibility of moving to Verizon.
I know it will be more expensive, and seemingly not as good a deal, but right now Sprint is selling promises. I can't check traffic on promises.
Soon 2 gigs a month will look much better than 400 megs of unlimited. It will be a decision between unlimited drops vs. Limited buckets.
A big part of the reason I'm beginning to loose patience is their decision to start LTE in places like dumb bucket Tennessee, over L.A., San Francisco, etc.
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No airave for me Sprint says. I don't have internet at home and apparently their fix for their lack of appropriate service I they cannot give me Anybody want a 2 month old HTC EVO lte?
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So's I just got off the phone w/sprint tech support and they confirmed that the 4g towers in LA are up and running. I have yet to see my 4g symbol light up. Is anyone else in my parts (downtown LA) getting a 4g signal? I could be wrong but I thought this wasn't supposed to happen till the end of september.
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I'm sure they meant 4g wimax. Some Sprint csr or even tech support for the other know what lte is or they will tell you have 4g but they don't tell you it's wimax.
When I bought my SGS3 I was told that I had 4g in my area and that I could use it with the sgs3....But I only have wimax in my area....
William said:
No airave for me Sprint says. I don't have internet at home and apparently their fix for their lack of appropriate service I they cannot give me Anybody want a 2 month old HTC EVO lte?
The U.S government wouldn't lie to us...would they?
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KaoMinerva might want your lte if its hboot 1.12 s-off
I read this week Boston was getting their lte turned on next week. What kind of bs is this? I swear they were testing lte and network vision in LA just a few weeks ago and now 3G is back to sluggish normal. I just might be go back to at&t next contract
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No 4G LTE goodness in North Hollywood (Studio City). :'(
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