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hi guys, what do ye recommend? The mini or the neo or the ray? im a fan of the smaller size like the mini, really like the size of the phone, but seems that the camera on the neo and ray is a lot better, and camera is very important to me.
which one would you recommend? the amount of megapixel doesnt bother me but the picture quality, yes
any advice?
They have same hardware, only difference is about screen size and camera. U must decide what is more important to you, if you want better camera take the neo and if size is more imprtant then you will take mini we can't help you to decide what u need more.
if you just want android and basic apps, go for mini. if you want to play HD games, go for neo
thanks for the replys, so i was going for the neo, went to the shop to buy it and turns out the neo as reached end of the line, so was going for the ray, well the ray as been recalled, so finally mini it was.
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thanks for the replys, so i was going for the neo, went to the shop to buy it and turns out the neo as reached end of the line, so was going for the ray, well the ray as been recalled, so finally mini it was.
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Recalled? Tell us more!
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dont know much, only that when i asked for the ray the guy on the shop said they didnt have any, the ones they sold, customers came back with problems and sony recall them back including the ones from other carphones warehouse.
does NFS hot pursuit can be play normally in xperia ray..? i mean,in my x8,the on-screen button is not located properly. i have to touch somewhere else so the onscreen button to detect the touch. example, i need to touch somewhere above the garage icon to enter the garage.
so...does the on-screen button works perfectly on xperia ray..?
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does NFS hot pursuit can be play normally in xperia ray..? i mean,in my x8,the on-screen button is not located properly. i have to touch somewhere else so the onscreen button to detect the touch. example, i need to touch somewhere above the garage icon to enter the garage.
so...does the on-screen button works perfectly on xperia ray..?
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These things are affected by the way the developer targets the screen resolution. Your X8 has a 320x480 resolution, standard until a couple of years ago but quite uncommon today and not usually targeted by developers of high-spec games. Consequently they sometimes don't optimise or even test for lower or unusual resolutions.
The Ray has an 854x480 display, a resolution that is already pretty common and becoming increasingly so, and I'm pretty sure that a 'big' title like NFS will have been optimised for all common resolutions so you shouldn't have any problem. Indeed, there are plenty of videos on You Tube showing it running on Play & Arc etc. which have the same resolution.
This link has more on the need to consider differing aspect ratios when developing on Android:
http://developer.motorola.com/docstools/library/Support_for_Multiple_Screen_Resolutions/
Hey Guys - trying to decide which one to choose from - Can get them basically at the same price ...
I have tried playing around with both - main points to look at - speed and camera.
The XLWW is definitively faster - but the images taken at artifical light - seemed more yellowish (should've been white) + there was more noise and less detail. The Wildfire S on the other hand made better low-light photos but was a bit sluggish as compared to the much nicer interface the XLWW had ?
Another point is : HD video on XLWW vs 640/480 on the Wildfire S
Oh and I am really keen on the Wildfire S design (not that the XLWW is that bad but the WIldfire is better).
Which one is the better one at the end - what is your opinion ?
I would go for the XLWW. 50% of my opinion 'cause I'm a Sony Fan.
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I would go for the XLWW. 50% of my opinion 'cause I'm a Sony Fan.
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What about the other 50% What's it based on ?
I've used them both and I also recommend the XLWW, it's just better than the Wildfire.
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What about the other 50% What's it based on ?
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Personal taste + features that fit my usage me.
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Personal taste + features that fit my usage me.
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Thanks - I think the wt19i is better myself - it's just that the camera issue is kinda important to me and the little test I made in the shop didn't convince me to take it ... I know it's a low-end phone - but still 5mp is supposed to make decent images at least.
I have had short experiences with both phones. And I would choose Sony Xperia LWW over HTC Wildfire S any day because.. its..
Newer (October, 2011 vs May, 2011).
Will soon get ICS (and this is a big one for me).
Lot more processing power (1GHz vs 600 Mhz) - this will matter a lot if you plan on keeping the phone for a while.. there is so much in the Play Store and you would want to install a lot of apps.. the more processing power, the merrier.
Music is really loud - although yes it distorts at high volumes but its awesome.. especially when watching youtube videos with friends in high noise areas).
Got a front-facing camera. I am an avid Skype user so it was a must for me.
Regarding Camera.. yes, Wildfire S is definitely better with stills.. but i would say it's a little compromise over LWW's ICS love and greater processing power. And moreover, LWW can shoot 720p videos..!
All said.. i still love to hold Wildfire S over LWW. But verdict - Sony Xperia Live With Walkman.
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My vote for "Sony Live With Walkman", there are several reasons.
1Ghz processor
512 RAM
Start ICS 4 update this week onwards.
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I have had short experiences with both phones. And I would choose Sony Xperia LWW over HTC Wildfire S any day because.. its..
Newer (October, 2011 vs May, 2011).
Will soon get ICS (and this is a big one for me).
Lot more processing power (1GHz vs 600 Mhz) - this will matter a lot if you plan on keeping the phone for a while.. there is so much in the Play Store and you would want to install a lot of apps.. the more processing power, the merrier.
Music is really loud - although yes it distorts at high volumes but its awesome.. especially when watching youtube videos with friends in high noise areas).
Got a front-facing camera. I am an avid Skype user so it was a must for me.
Regarding Camera.. yes, Wildfire S is definitely better with stills.. but i would say it's a little compromise over LWW's ICS love and greater processing power. And moreover, LWW can shoot 720p videos..!
All said.. i still love to hold Wildfire S over LWW. But verdict - Sony Xperia Live With Walkman.
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you think ics will improve the camera stills on the lww ?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3777&idPhone2=4111
definetly se lww
cause its faster,looks better, camera is better, sound quality is better and better development support
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you think ics will improve the camera stills on the lww ?
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No, i don't think so. Xperia Neo V had some picture quality issues too with GB and it hasn't changed with ICS.
But, you can always post-process images to remove that yellowish tint.
Hit Thanks Button if I helped.
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No, i don't think so. Xperia Neo V had some picture quality issues too with GB and it hasn't changed with ICS.
But, you can always post-process images to remove that yellowish tint.
Hit Thanks Button if I helped.
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the yellowish tint is easily removed - I would be more concerned in the loss of detail made some test photos at a shop today - compared to the wildfire s - the lww had significantly low detail when image is zoomed ...
otherwise all the rest seems much better - but I am hoping his could somehow be a software issue
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the yellowish tint is easily removed - I would be more concerned in the loss of detail made some test photos at a shop today - compared to the wildfire s - the lww had significantly low detail when image is zoomed ...
otherwise all the rest seems much better - but I am hoping his could somehow be a software issue
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Yeah indeed, its a software issue coz it overcompress images but I am not sure if there's a fix for that yet.. maybe some senior member could shed some light on that (anyone listening?), have you tried googling it..?
But even if you decide not to go for LWW, Wildfire S is still a big NO, the processor is really dated. What other phones have you considered..? Is Xperia Neo V (there is a bit price drop with the launch of Sony Xperia Sola) and HTC One V within your price range..?
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Yeah indeed, its a software issue coz it overcompress images but I am not sure if there's a fix for that yet.. maybe some senior member could shed some light on that (anyone listening?), have you tried googling it..?
But even if you decide not to go for LWW, Wildfire S is still a big NO, the processor is really dated. What other phones have you considered..? Is Xperia Neo V (there is a bit price drop with the launch of Sony Xperia Sola) and HTC One V within your price range..?
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actually had a look at the Neo V and the picture quality of the camera was pretty much the same - which lead me to the conclusion that the problem might be coz of the software... or a crappy camera matrix.
anyways - the lww works really like a beast with the regular rom that it comes with I was looking at it in the shop and was impressed - let alone with a custom rom - just maybe waiting on a fix for the overcompressed image - wasn't there going to be a less compressed version of the image coming with the ics ? (as a setting ?)
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actually had a look at the Neo V and the picture quality of the camera was pretty much the same - which lead me to the conclusion that the problem might be coz of the software... or a crappy camera matrix.
anyways - the lww works really like a beast with the regular rom that it comes with I was looking at it in the shop and was impressed - let alone with a custom rom - just maybe waiting on a fix for the overcompressed image - wasn't there going to be a less compressed version of the image coming with the ics ? (as a setting ?)
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No official word from Sony about the setting, just street rumors, which got proved wrong with Neo V, so hopes are low for LWW too. Yeah, u r right about the stock rom - m a big time timescape user - looks beautiful, works cool.
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No official word from Sony about the setting, just street rumors, which got proved wrong with Neo V, so hopes are low for LWW too. Yeah, u r right about the stock rom - m a big time timescape user - looks beautiful, works cool.
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I truly hope this gets fixed - I see the same problem with Neo, Neo V, LWW, ARC - pretty much most of the late 2011 phones have this issue ... so until a fix is released I will be pretty much holding off.
And you won't have to wait for long.. coz ICS coming to LWW soon starting in a couple days as per the official Sony blog. Start asking around on ICS related threads.
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I truly hope this gets fixed - I see the same problem with Neo, Neo V, LWW, ARC - pretty much most of the late 2011 phones have this issue ... so until a fix is released I will be pretty much holding off.
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.. and man i just realized its the android 4.0.4..! The ICS update on Neo V I was talking about earlier was 4.0.3. This time, both LWW and Neo V will get 4.0.4. And some guys here at XDA saying we will get a new kernel too.
So hopes are high again for a fix for the camera.
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.. and man i just realized its the android 4.0.4..! The ICS update on Neo V I was talking about earlier was 4.0.3. This time, both LWW and Neo V will get 4.0.4. And some guys here at XDA saying we will get a new kernel too.
So hopes are high again for a fix for the camera.
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fingers crossed so that I can get one I passed on my birthday yesterday coz of the camera issue - but if it gets fixed I'm getting me a brand new toy
I would go definitelly for Xperia. HTC is compared to Xperia waaay slower. I had both of them in had, so I can tell.
Hi! I was just wondering, is there any possible way of flashing/installing the camera application from the Xperia Arc S to the Atrix? I really like that camera, chock-full of features and what-have-yous. I've adored that camera ever since I used it on my bro's Arc S. To all the experts, is there any way at all that I can make this happen on my Atrix? Thanks in advance!
That's not possible because Arc camera hardware differs a lot from Atrix's.
I imagine With a lot of hard work and skilled hacking it may be possible, seeing as other phone's camera applications have been ported to the atrix, but as of right now i don't belive so.
well...... maybe impossible...
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I had an x10 xperia for a few years with MIUI installed since january, just gave it to my dad after upgrading to the Xperia Ion. I really like the Ion, but miss the physical buttons, lanyard, and the MIUI rom from Oodie was working so good on my x10. If x10 had HDMI, front camera, and a little more ram, I would have never let it go. Btw I gave it too my dad because he needed a phone, the Ion was free so I took my upgrade, and he got x10. Ion now has a working stable MIUI, but without HDMI, some theme issues, and call recording only records you. Im considering trading/selling Ion to get a Neo, not the V version I want 8mp cam. Is this a dumb move?
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I had an x10 xperia for a few years with MIUI installed since january, just gave it to my dad after upgrading to the Xperia Ion. I really like the Ion, but miss the physical buttons, lanyard, and the MIUI rom from Oodie was working so good on my x10. If x10 had HDMI, front camera, and a little more ram, I would have never let it go. Btw I gave it too my dad because he needed a phone, the Ion was free so I took my upgrade, and he got x10. Ion now has a working stable MIUI, but without HDMI, some theme issues, and call recording only records you. Im considering trading/selling Ion to get a Neo, not the V version I want 8mp cam. Is this a dumb move?
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ya bro... it would be a dumb move.... there is no point in downgrading your cell phone..:cyclops::cyclops::cyclops:
A totally dumb move in my opinion
The neo in no way can be compared to the ion
And FYI, the hardware buttons on the neo/v suck!
They turn to copper in no time, and even start to squeak a little, like mine.
I will recommend you to stay with your ion.
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I can understand it, but within a year you will be disappointed with the lag when there's a heavier android version.
Battery life is great for the Neo and it's a very compact handset.
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I wouldn't call it dumb move. I have Neo V and im enjoying it! Its1 year old phone, its getting Jelly Bean, i overclocked it to 1.6 gHz and its working amazing, even hard games, my Neo V runs FIFA 12 and Amazing Spiderman without ANY lag!
I dont agree about buttons, i really enjoy using hardware key on my Neo V, i think that is the same situation as original Neo.
If you dont like them, you can always flash a AOKP ROM and have Navigation Onscreen buttons.
Battery life is average, it can last a day with some average usage (I use Neo V for browsing, viewing facebook, playing some games like FIFA 12, Bad Piggies and all those stuff and battery last from morning charging to point when i want to sleep. It has HDMI, and front camera.
If you dont want THE LATEST AND GREATEST THEN DEFFINETLY GET NEO V OR ORIGINAL NEO. IF YOU WANT NEWEST AND BEST THEN STICK WITH ION, I would be happy with ION if i had one.
dont go for neo my friend...
stick to ion
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I wouldn't call it dumb move. I have Neo V and im enjoying it! Its1 year old phone, its getting Jelly Bean, i overclocked it to 1.6 gHz and its working amazing, even hard games, my Neo V runs FIFA 12 and Amazing Spiderman without ANY lag!
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It's not getting Jelly Bean
Have you done a CPU swap? My phone can barely run the Android interface.
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It's not getting Jelly Bean
Have you done a CPU swap? My phone can barely run the Android interface.
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Did you debloated? I've debloated mine,and runs everything very smooth,and i have about 150-160 mb of free RAM (everything stock,except few mods like walkman,screen lock and small aps).
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Did you debloated? I've debloated mine,and runs everything very smooth,and i have about 150-160 mb of free RAM (everything stock,except few mods like walkman,screen lock and small aps).
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MIUI is quite heavy, it could be that.
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MIUI is quite heavy, it could be that.
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Yup,that's the problem.
But ion to neo, no way for me
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Aarush said:
But ion to neo, no way for me
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+1.
It's kind of like trading s3 to receive an s2.
Note 2 -> note
Lumia 920 -> lumia 900.
Get what I mean?
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Merry Christmas lads, sorry for opening another one thread/spamming... I found xperia sola and xperia U at exactly the same price....which one shall i go for? Please answer me i need your suggestions! Thanks.
What do you like more? A colourful Illumination Bar or a Magical Display? Just Kidding
A perfect/good smartphone is good because of it's small great things, not because it has a Tegra 3 Processor or 2GB of RAM. Thats my Opinion
I think you should go into a electronic store and hold both devices in your Hand. The sola has a bigger Display and you can use it with gloves, yay So I would buy a Sola, but listen to your heart
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What do you like more? A colourful Illumination Bar or a Magical Display? Just Kidding
A perfect/good smartphone is good because of it's small great things, not because it has a Tegra 3 Processor or 2GB of RAM. Thats my Opinion
I think you should go into a electronic store and hold both devices in your Hand. The sola has a bigger Display and you can use it with gloves, yay So I would buy a Sola, but listen to your heart
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I held a sola yesterday but when i surfed the internet it was a bit laggy...may because it wasn't updated to ics ? I don't know why....colours were REALLY beautiful too!
So, when you were kidding above did you really meant sth? Xperia U's screen can be compared with Sola's one? (forget the inches, talk about colours)
The internet thing: maybe the Ram was full?
Both displays have 16 millions colors and both have the Bravia Engine, so I don't think that there is a difference
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The internet thing: maybe the Ram was full?
Both displays have 16 millions colors and both have the Bravia Engine, so I don't think that there is a difference
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I can't remember for the ram...
From the videos i have seen till now, Sola and U are exactly the same but U has only 4GB user accessible :-/ i think i can cover this problem witha usb adapter....you think that usb adapter will be annoying? Or will it be easy to get used to it?
Only reason why you should buy U instead of Sola is front camera. If you can live without it then Sola is better phone most definitely.
Also keep one thing in mind that both of these phones will NOT get official JellyBean from Sony. So if you are a fan of Stock manufacturer's firmware, you might want to reconsider buying either of these two phones.
Though, hopefully they WILL get unofficial JB Rom such as Cyanogen etc but it may take a long while to get everything working in these roms, there is also a chance that some features such as video recording may never work in an unofficial JB rom. So think before you buy
Nothing better than the stock rom
Go for a device that will get jelly bean
One more and last question guys...if I buy xperia sola and a freeze suddenly appears and as a result i must remove the battery to "unfreeze" it, what can I do then? I saw the battery is unremovable and it wories me a little.....any help? If there is a solution for this "problem" i will definately buy Sola,otherwise i am afraid i have to reconsider buying a new phone...
I think that there is a way to force reboot on such type of phones, something like power button and vol down...
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One more and last question guys...if I buy xperia sola and a freeze suddenly appears and as a result i must remove the battery to "unfreeze" it, what can I do then? I saw the battery is unremovable and it wories me a little.....any help? If there is a solution for this "problem" i will definately buy Sola,otherwise i am afraid i have to reconsider buying a new phone...
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On this phone you dont remove battery, you do vol + power untill the phone vibrates 3 times.
If i were you i would find samsung or HTC for the same money.
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On this phone you dont remove battery, you do vol + power untill the phone vibrates 3 times.
If i were you i would find samsung or HTC for the same money.
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Thank you man
I have never bought other phones than Sony ....i really don't like them... The only phones i love ,other than Siny's, are samsung galaxy S3 and iphone 4...
both have dual core processor
but u and sola not getting jelly bean
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Nothing better than the stock rom
Go for a device that will get jelly bean
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I don't agree
In my opinion when there will be completed cm9 nothing will be better than that
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I don't agree
In my opinion when there will be completed cm9 nothing will be better than that
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Yes bro
Everyone have their own preferences
I tried every rom present here
Bt I always get back to stock one
of course.... Xperia Sola is better than Xperia U... because Xperia Sola has external sd card whereas the Xperia U does not have... My friend's Xperia U running on stock ICS has the wifi bug... where he tries to turn off the wifi but the wifi still kept turning on... so.. consider Xperia Sola maybe? XD
Don't go for any of them s3 duos xperia go
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after getting my Xperia Neo stolen I decided to go with Sola - as the 3.7" inch screen is perfect size for my hands. It is the minimum for me to be able to write text in portrait orientation (XU has 3.5" screen).
On the other hand I *hate* Sola's floating touch (or glove mode)! Main reason is that you cannot switch it off in games - what good is dual core processor if you are not able to control the game properly due to this floating touch nonsense? To name few: Triple Town, Temple Run, Muffin Knight, GTA3 and others are unplayable (even though the performace is ok). You can get rid of floating touch with different ROM (at the moment there are only two of them), but if you plan to game much, better go with XU...
Another thing to consider is that Sola goes crazy when on charger - it won't react correctly on touch - it think it is floating touch technology again to blame here... (don't know if the same problem occurs on XU)
You can google both of these problem - I would love to know about them before I have bought my Sola :/
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after getting my Xperia Neo stolen I decided to go with Sola - as the 3.7" inch screen is perfect size for my hands. It is the minimum for me to be able to write text in portrait orientation (XU has 3.5" screen).
On the other hand I *hate* Sola's floating touch (or glove mode)! Main reason is that you cannot switch it off in games - what good is dual core processor if you are not able to control the game properly due to this floating touch nonsense? To name few: Triple Town, Temple Run, Muffin Knight, GTA3 and others are unplayable (even though the performace is ok). You can get rid of floating touch with different ROM (at the moment there are only two of them), but if you plan to game much, better go with XU...
Another thing to consider is that Sola goes crazy when on charger - it won't react correctly on touch - it think it is floating touch technology again to blame here... (don't know if the same problem occurs on XU)
You can google both of these problem - I would love to know about them before I have bought my Sola :/
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I have tried gta3 and it works well in my sola
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