[Q] HTC 7 Mozart with Android - 7 Mozart General

I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot

As far as I know, WP7 is an only system, which can be loaded in Mozart, now...

eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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no way
if u want android - buy android phone.
but, imho, wp7 much better

eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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Why would want to run lousy OS on Mozart? Lag , lag and more lag. Especially with single core CPU. Even dual core CPU lag.

you could always try reading one of the MANY other threads asking the same question
or ask yourself why do you want a mozart if you dont want WP7
TL;DR: idiot

I want too

wp7 to android
Thats probably one of the most stupid questions I have heard this week, search the market for an Android phone that looks like the Mozart and buy it....

I would love to have android on mozart too
kkcheong said:
Why would want to run lousy OS on Mozart? Lag , lag and more lag. Especially with single core CPU. Even dual core CPU lag.
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your brain lags. It prevents you from speaking properly.

peacekeeper05 said:
I would love to have android on mozart too
your brain lags. It prevents you from speaking properly.
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With current smooth UI from iOS and WP7, Android is Winmo 6.5 of the current mobile world.

Buy android phone.You like the appearance of Mozart?

buy HTC HD2 u can have wm6.5, android or WP7 on it

maybe you must go to HTC factory center then you tell them if you want to change the wp7 os to android on your mozart.. good luck...

I believe it is a matter of hardware why this will not work

I have a HTC Mozart 7. You can't downgrade to 6.5 sadly. But I hope the developers make a rom that would run 6.5 on mozart. The new android phones such as Samsung galaxy 2 is well better then Mozart but if you like a buisness phone buy a Mozart because you get great services from it such as emails and Microsoft office etc... On the other hand tho android does the same.
All am saying is you should go for HTC Mozart or a Samsung galaxy. In my opinion their both good phones.

Question
No one has actuly answered the question yet though.
Is it actuly possible, even a slight chance?
If some of the android apps were ported over I wouldn't want android on my phone, but I like most of the apps like Temple Run and Mine Craft (Minecraft is very addictive game, I have it on xbox and p.c, but only I had it on my WP7), a brilliant games on android and IOS but not on WP7
I love the smoothness of WP7 and its load of capabilities but just not the app market.

jeez, you're going to change a licensed phone into a free-licensed one? Windows phone has it's own Limited license (belongs to Microsoft) while that droid has no limited license..
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okay, I will answer this to conclude all of the replies.
Answer: NO. there is no chance of you to install a droid into your hTC 7 Mozart, unless you got your own way on how to flash the rom with that droid's files and configure the files to run with the hardware properly.
*Correction for this post is strongly allowed

Everyone who likes the change, may wants to have a multi OS phone ... just like me...
I had a HD2 but on that time it had just windows 6.5 and now I have a mozart and strongly want to have many OS on my phone ...
It isn't stupid at all...

if you want you can convert cLK (open source loader) .

eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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So do I,but I can't find any way to do that.

eng_bobbo said:
I want to buy HTC 7 Mozart but I don't want to use Windows phone 7
Can I install Android instead of WP7 in HTC 7 Mozart
and can I down grade to Windows mobile 6.5
thanks a lot
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I'm also want to install an android in my HTC Mozart!

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[Q] windows phone 7 on the HD2

hi guys..
I think man can ask easily now after the guys did the most wonderful job ever adding the android to such a tough mobile like Leo, do we expect to upgrade our windows phone 6.5 to windows 7 .....???
any ideas about that
best regards
THis has been brought up many times before, Short answer is most likely not. There are just to many diff between the 2. With android, it runs on top of WM with 7 it would replace it and then there would be huge issues as only 3 hardware buttons would work and I bet a few things would never work.
HTC Pedia stated a couple of weeks ago that there will be a windows 7 rom available in October / November time they are currently working intergrating a new version of sence into windows!! Sounds promising!

HTC 7 Mozart - Desire clone running Windows Phone 7

Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
Moved to General as not development.
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
EleCtrOx666 said:
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
rete said:
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
ameel said:
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.

win 6.5 with win phone 7 theme

anybody dosen't like this
any body dosen't works on it?
any rom?
I'm searching and asking for the same since november last year and nothing.obviously no one can't do it or is not ineterested.I don't know man.This what you are asking for is avaliable for HD2 but for topaz no.i can't asnwer you why,but CPU is not the problem like everybody are saying.Maybe i'm wrong but i've seen very old devices to run wm 6.5 with no problem and i think wp7 will work on topaz,maybe without xbox live ,but everyting else have to work.It's not looking so full with animations,3d graphics or something like that,even it's more simple than HTC Sence - for me.I hope one day someone to port HD2 rom to topaz or something like that,but for now it's just a hope.sorry but how we say in our coutry - е те такова животно нема!(There's no such animal!)
answering the first post, there's a WP7 theme pack for SPB Mobile shell 3.5, look into that thread.
There have been attempts to port win 7 over to topaz. The threads have already been removed or are so far back you just have not seen them. The result is the same every time. The interface is too sluggish to do anything with. Yes Win mo 7 needs a 1 ghz processor to work effectivley and this is not for the Xbox crap but for the phone operating system and interface. The topaz 533mhz processor cannot run Winmo 7 and thats just the sad fact you have to live with. So just deal with it or by a phone that is made for and is running Winmo 7.
i think what the first post was asking is there any wm 6.5 rom that is themed to look like wp7 as much as possible... they made a rom like that for hd2 awhile back... just 6.5 skinned like wp7
is there a wp7 theme for htc sense?
fantasticangle said:
is there a wp7 theme for htc sense?
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I use this and I'm very happy with it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
RufusThorne said:
I use this and I'm very happy with it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
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cept that is not for sense...
a WP7 theme for sense is a really good idea though

pros and cons of mozart vs android HELLPPPP :)

hi, just wanted to ask for opinions if changing to another OS, mozarts wp7, would be an upgrade from xperia x10.
anyone with wp7 i need help.
did you regret that you changed OS?? from android to wp7?
or is it a much better choice?
things to consider if i change to wp7:
1. applications.. i dont have an idea about the line up of apps for wp7
will it be as many and as fun as android apps?
2. battery life
3. smoothness of web browsing and overall interface.
THANKS
also:
are there also a lot of good free apps on the market??
or are there sites where we can download apps for free like in the android devices??
it would be of much help for me in deciding if i should switch to wp7
with your comments guys. thank you
WP7 (and now WP 7.5) is just amazing, more integrated and easy to use than other platoforms. Microsoft got in the game a few years later and that was not only a bad thing.. They could see all the disadvantages with iOS and Android before developing their new platform. WP7 is the most beautiful UI out there..
1. Applications are great but all essential ones are not yet released (like Skype, Spotify, etc). These are due to be released this fall though and more and the market place is growing very fast. The next six months will be very exciting.
2. Battery life is suprisingly good. Playing games, however, drains it quickly.
3. It is the smoothest experience out there.. Android is far behind..
If you like HTC, I would go for the Titan or Radar, though. They are the latest generation WP phones with a front facing camera..
Totally agree with the above post...I have tried many OSes, and I think WP7 is by far the best for me. Simplicity is the best factor, the apps may cost a little more (angry birds, for example) but at least I can try them all without paying for them.
A good site to search for apps is the wp7applist (here)
Mango 7.5 is certainly a big improvement on the earlier version.
Thank you for your quick responses friends . What about gba emulator? Do we also have gba emulator for wp7?
Is.the mozart a good phone?
Smoothness of.the ui.is.whats most important
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All WP7 phone has an extremely smooth UI. MUCH smoother than Andoird. WP7 does not have the same problems as Android there.. You can buy any WP7 phone with confidence.
7thSense said:
All WP7 phone has an extremely smooth UI. MUCH smoother than Andoird. WP7 does not have the same problems as Android there.. You can buy any WP7 phone with confidence.
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Okay thank you sir just one more thing for me to really buy the mozart. Are there emulator like for gameboy advance ?
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Justinhopaolo said:
Okay thank you sir just one more thing for me to really buy the mozart. Are there emulator like for gameboy advance ?
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Seems like it, yes:
http://wp7lab.com/news/gameboy-emulator-wp7-warios-jewels/
yea but thats only Gameboy not gameboy advance.. i wont be able to play pokemon emerald anymore hahahaha
even tho id still go for the mozart. thank you sir!
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one more thing.
is mango officially out for mozart ??
Yes. The official Mango can be downloaded from the Development Forum. The public release through Zune should come this or next week (if you dont want to re-flash the phone yourself, even though it is really easy).
bought the phone an hour ago..
if i wait for the official mango release from zune..
will it wipe the files in my phone now??
Congratulations!! A backup will be automatically performed by Zune before the phone is updated to Mango. Then all data will be restored afterwards, so you can feel safe.
Hoping it will be out officially soon thanks for helping me find and avail this great and sexy phone..
Hmmm one more thing . Is it also possible to install apps from 4shared? I mean can I install apps .payable apps and then download it for free from some other site ?
Justinhopaolo said:
Hoping it will be out officially soon thanks for helping me find and avail this great and sexy phone..
Hmmm one more thing . Is it also possible to install apps from 4shared? I mean can I install apps .payable apps and then download it for free from some other site ?
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App are extremely cheap so I would recommend supporting the developers out there..
Just waiting for mango now
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Congratulations, it is really a sexy phone, i plan to keep it with me for a long period.
I also recommend supporting the developers
I advise you not to flash any hacked ROM, only the official ones.
You can try the Official HTC leaked ROM, it is very stable but you will lose your data.
If I wait for the official release will it not wipe my data now?
As mentioned earlier: It will preserve your data..
Thanks sir. I'm psyched about the mango update hop it comes really really soon
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Mango is only a week or two away now, unless you live in Taiwan and some other parts of Asia - where they have it already.
AT&T will start to role Mango out on the 27th Sept -
I'm from the Philippines
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Porting WP8 to Titan

I still can't believe it myself too ...
But apparently DFT is managing to port WP8 on HD2 :
http://twitter.com/CotullaCode
http://www.wpcentral.com/against-all-odds-windows-phone-8-has-been-hacked-htc-hd2
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/windows_phone_8_ported_to_the_htc_hd2-11-29-12
"Hopefully more details will be coming out soon with an actual release because as you have probably figured out, if the HD2 can run Windows Phone 8, there might be a chance for Windows Phone 7 devices too."
I guess it is right to ask ourself such a question indeed.
I don't think HD2 has something Titan doesn't have.
Surely it would be interesting to understand what DFT really has really done.
In the meanwhile I'd like to know what our beloved Titan cookers think about this.
i hope so that windows phone 8 will port to HTC titan
Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
I don´t think, that port to Titan never be. Titan have better HW than HD2. You´ll see, port for Titan will be Now, we only waiting ...
Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
link68759 said:
Many phones have hardware better than the HD2, that is completely irrelevant.
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not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
bartCZ said:
not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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Titan isnt first series device WP, Titan and Radar are second series. First series are HD7, Omnia etc...
bartCZ said:
not as irrelevant ... Titan is first series device with windows phone, i´m thinking, that port WP8 will be for all first series device - like trophy, hd7, mozart ... Maybe I´m wrong .... time will tell ....
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sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
HTC Titan
HTC Radar
First Windows Phone 7.0
HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy
Diepvriezer said:
sorry HTC Titan is a Second serie of WP7
Second Windows Phone 7.5
HTC Titan
HTC Radar
First Windows Phone 7.0
HTC 7 mozart
HTC 7 pro
HTC 7 Surround
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Trophy
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Yes, yes, you have right ... I mean, that except faster CPU is Titan the same device as hd7, tropy etc ......... I ´m wrong wrote it. My mystake.
Moved to General as there is nothing for the Titan at this point.
Thank you,
mf2112
XDA Moderator
Anyway, the point is the HD2 has drivers that can be worked with and a team of expert that specialize in it.
Titan has neither. Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
I found the photo of the HD2 a bit interesting; one the build number's last few digits were blacked out and did all the zeroes escape everybody? What I find curious is the Titan I is flashable, as of this typing the Titan II is not. I own both the HD2 and Titan and the Titan runs 7.8 much better than the HD2 though I have nothing but sincere admiration for the HD2; an incredible piece of hardware despite it's lack of memory.
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Don't get your hopes up. It will never happen. I wish it would. What does the HD2 have that the titan doesn't? Drivers that are more or less open sourced with a team (DFT) that specializes in them.
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Do you have any proof of what you are saying ?
Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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Well not "open sourced" but here's how it works (and all of this I have gathered from browsing XDA over the years):
In order to get android to work, someone had to either find drivers or reverse engineer something for the HD2 to get the hardware to work. This led to native ports of Ubuntu and Debian and MeeGo. Whatever was done, the previously closed drivers are now well understood enough to port it around to any linux. Then I've heard that the HD2 was a WP7 test device, and those drivers were leaked from HTC (I presume). That is the ONLY reason the HD2 has WP7. I imagine the leaked drivers aided the port to WP8.
Moreover I don't know if you follow DFT, but they have entirely rewritten and replaced the original bootloader and have added the ability to multi boot up to 32 (or some absurd number) different operating systems from multiple sources. They know the HD2 in and out.
It does not matter at all that other devices have better specs. Nearly any phone made after the HD2 has better specs. Specs are irrelevant. The HD2 is a special beast. In fact I don't think any other phone can even run android natively- all the android "ports" for other WM phones rely on HarEt, whereas the HD2 can run it natively... So afaik the HD2 is the only device that can natively run another OS.
Asking when *your* random phone is going to be able to do cool things like the phone that has *years* of community development behind it is rather self serving, a little ignorant and kind of annoying.
If you really want it to happen, put a bounty on it with a reward. Then maybe someone could work a miracle... If it were to be any Gen 2 windows phone, I suppose it would be the Radar or the Titan though, given that we have HSPL. But IMO the titan/radar are going to be left behind very quickly as the hacking scene transitions to WP8 devices.
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I have to agree. I stopped flashing my smart phones for quite some time and just recently picked it up. The HD2 is that device we all wish every other device since could do. If there is to be a WP8 port, that is the device that will garner the most attention. Currently as of this typing, I have the NexusHD2 on that device. It isn't Samsung's mini-beast, the Galaxy S3 nor is it enabled with that beautiful touch screen, but the HD2 is a stud among steers. The day my HD2 is put to rest, it will be buried with honors.
link68759 said:
Titan will not get WP8, don't get your hopes up.
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Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
Pneumo said:
Don't mind for me DO getting my hopes up
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Patience, patience, patience. There is rumor there is a HTC Titan III, the HTC Zenith in the pipeline. I know there are many who have this philosophy that they must get their hands on the latest and state of the art devices. I don't doubt that Windows Phone 7 should have been what we now know is Windows Phone 8. There's nothing more irritating than the inability to not run programs like Skype as they do on Android and an overall general attitude that appears contrary to customer loyalty 101. Today (as of this typing) we do not know if the SPLs on the HTC 8X, Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 and future unknown devices in the pipeline will be akin to the HTC Titan II (Radiant) which remains unlockable. It is unlikely there will never be another device like the HD2 and for me, that is what is wrong with carriers and Microsoft in regards to the devices they sell within the United States and Canada; it is internationally how different and many of us wish we had their device hardware.

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